BackPage Advertiser Reviews

[quote]And the women who say,"White men only, just my preference," are not only prejudiced but are clueless. You're getting paid honey.[/quote]I see providing a GFE as a little different then say selling a pair of shoes. Your quote above says they are prejudiced. Is that because the client has to be white or because they have to be male? Does color matter but not sex? If so why? I see them as the same.

Many people of any sex / race are not comfortable having an intimate relationship with someone of some sex or race. If in all other matters they treat persons of that sex / race equally, does that make them racist / sexist? If I do not want to have sex with another man, am I sexist / prejudiced?

If one does not feel they can provide a GFE to some people, where / when should they indicate that: in their ad, when they are contacted, or when they first set eyes on the client? I would think the best time would be in the ad. Certainly when the client shows up is the worst choice. And doing it when they are contacted requires that the provider remembers to bring up the subject everytime they are contacted. That is hard to do with 100% accuracy. So mentioning it in their ad seems to me to be the best time. Certainly when I am looking for a provider, I want as much information as soon as possible. The more info in their ads, the better.

The fact that she is getting paid has nothing to do with it. An actor gets paid for acting in movies. But that does not mean they have to accept every role they are offered. If they do not like the script, they turn it down. They are getting paid for the roles they choose to accept. Same with a provider.

First a review: [url]http://charlotte.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/available-now-_-smokin-hot-blonde-barbie-_-_-60spcls-21/5260615[/url]

Hi there, I am love. I have a toned body, with enchanting bedroom eyes, long silky blonde hair, soft skin, and. You will find that I am a open-minded lady that your heart has always desired!

Allow me to pamper and spoil you with my many skills and talents. Ask about my two an three gyrl shows. I have specials runnin 24/7. Safe clean an upscale location. Xoxo Love 5175758463

Poster's age: 21.

• Location: charlotte.

• Post I'd: 5260615 charlotte.

================================

Saw her very recently. Pics are her. She's very chill and the price is right. For the. 6 she's alot better than the alternatives. Couple cakes in the oven but I like baked goods as long as it doesn't go beyond muffins. I will repeat.

Per the ad, I can't say I was pampered or really impressed with a particular skillset, but overall I'd do it again. She's a safety girl so expect that. Very clean for a high traffic position. Said she travels and has some regulars. Any questions you can pm. I think I said it all here but I'll do my best.

-

Comments: I have reread most of the dialogue about the BP posts stating preference. I hadn't really considered it until I saw it laid out and see alot of opinions. Some I agree with and others I don't understand. I don't personally care about an escorts preference. I happen to be white. I have seen some ads that contain these commments, but never met with anyone who had that in their ad. I saw a post here where a guy had gone to woodlawn and got turned away. I'd be pissed if it happened to me. I didn't go see that girl because she was inconsiderate to the guy who drove there after making an appointment. For me it had little to do with racism. A preference is just that. She should have handled it better.

When I go to see a pro, I expect a certain level of service. One thing I don't want to deal with are goons trying to shake me down. I have dealt with that in the past and well, race has been a factor to put it mildly. Now when I see an ad with a preference, my mind immediately says to me,"I wouldn't have to deal with any goons if I were to see this particular pro." Again, I haven't seen any, but that's the vibe I get. I don't have any issue with black guys or gangsters for that matter. I don't care if my pro for the minute did a black guy earlier, I assume she has. I just don't want to deal with them when I am there, period. Separate issues I know, but thought I'd share.

[QUOTE=Montidoc; 1163283]I see providing a GFE as a little different then say selling a pair of shoes. Your quote above says they are prejudiced. Is that because the client has to be white or because they have to be male? Does color matter but not sex? If so why? I see them as the same.

[/QUOTE]Then good luck shopping for shoes in the women's department. LOL

[QUOTE=Johnjohn 30; 1162925]I only have one handle online. My only mongering identity is my email address. If I have a bad review to post, I post it knowing I'm burning a bridge. It's incentive for me to think with my big-head. I also ask afterward if they'd rather I not say anything online. If not, and it would have been a positive review, I keep my mouth shut. If it's a negative review, I don't ask, I don't care, I don't want to ever go back. Besides, all of you need to know about the bad.

Light screening? I tell them to google my email address and feel free to ask anyone about me. I only have my real identity to hide. Just ask them to answer the same questions they are asking you. You'd like to see my driver's license, sure, let me see yours first. [/QUOTE]I think you are missing something, first not all good reviews are 100% good, and good or bad a review should be honest and you could be writing a good review for a girl you would like to see again and maybe there was one or two things that were not good, things that wouldn't stop you from seeing her again but might stop others, so to give an honest review whether it's good or bad, not having to worry about fluffing it up to keep a girl happy so she won't cut you off the next time you call, it's better that you have some anonymity if you are going to write reviews.

My perfect example, I had found the ultimate GFE, cute girl next door looks amazing service and very reasonable rates. I wrote her a very good review on another 'erotic' review site (hint hint) the only sort of negative thing I had said was when I was trying to describe her looks, and I thought I was being honest saying "she does not look like a top model, more like the really hot girl next door" in fact in the number scale part of the review I gave her a 9 out of 10 for looks, but she read that one line and something in it stuck in her head and she took it as me saying she didn't look good. EVen though I had sene her maybe 5-6 times prior to writing that review, she refused to ever see me again even though the rest of the review was all good. Also like I said having some anonomity makes it easier to be honest since you don't have to explain to the grol what you meant.

Another example, that girl Angel, anyone who has been here awhile probably remembers the whole truth in advertising discussion where some BP girls got involved and the guys here were pretty blunt with them, including myself, I had never seen her but she was trying to explain why her ads did not reflect 100% of the truth, after listening to what she had to say about her take on the business, I figured I would try her services, now if I didn't keep my real identity separate, she might have known who I was and it could have effected her service after the heated argument we all got into here, but the fact that she didn't know who I was, I know I can judge her services as what most guys could expect.

Also them not knowing who you are on one hand if they know you and know you write a lot of reviews they might give you better service so thats sort of a plus, (I have had girls tell me they will do "x" if I give them a good review, and of course I said yes (still wrote a honest review and did not tell them what my review name is) BUT if a girl is giving you better service only because she knows you will write a review, that makes your review less reliable, and people will start looking at your reviews as crap because you "claim" to get better service than what anyone else gets with her, and while what you write might be true, to everyone else it loosk like BS if no one else gets the same service as you your reviews, all of a sudden you are not reliable and your name becomes mud.

Basically In my opinion it better for both sides if the reviewer is anonymous.

Your on point with this, with the first half of your post, you went a little off topic with the second half, I don't think this needs to be about race, it's about personal choice, but many people seem to be using the wrong word, if you are taking your life experience and crime statistics and other factors whatever they may be, and factoring that into your decision, thats not prejudice, the definition of prejudice is to "pre judge" that is judge a person / race without knowing anything about them prior to you judging them (here is a definition right out of the dictionary. An unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.) What your talking about is not "pre-judging" it's "Judging" it's making an informed opinion based on your prior life experiences, if she has "thoguht" about it and has a "reason" then she is not being prejudiced.

I still say if a provider is not comfortable with a black guy (or a guy from whatever race or for any other reason) thats her business and she shouldn't take any grief for that. Some of you guys keep talking about this like it just a business and if the guy has the money the girl has no right to say no. Remember we are talking about a person not a piece of meat here, we are not talking about someone not getting served at a lunch counter here we are talking about a girl doing something very personal with HER body, if she is not comfortable with someone for whatever reason whether it's race, financial reasons, hygiene, handicap, age, I don't care whatever the reason is thats her prerogative.

[QUOTE=RomeoDandy; 1163091]I agree that there should be some discretion shown but I am at the point where I refuse to criticize the girl. In fact, based on:

1) Crime Statistics showing the wildly disproportionate numbers of violent crimes committed by blacks. Rape being a primary example.

And.

2) Mostly anecdotal evidence backed up by some polling indicating that blacks are awful tippers, (read that as cheap).

I hardly think that any girl should be criticized for wanting to meet someone who is less likely to be violent and more likely to be generous and that person is more likely to not be black.

It may be prejudice, but here's the thing, prejudice get's a bad rap but really it's a survival mechanism.

Now I would suggest that.

3) Incidents such as the recent rape of young (12?) hispanic girl by as many as 28 blacks (Texas) followed by the black community's refusal to outright condemn them and in fact to blame the victim and somehow or another fit whites into it.

And.

4) Our wonderful attorney generals race based sense of justice that indicates "his people" are to be protected at all costs.

Begs the question, at what point do white people (primarily) wake up to the idea that there is definitely a war on by blacks against whites? Anybody who would suggest there isn't is in my opinion, at best naive.

So, myself, as of recent times, I've made a conscious decision to boycott blacks as much as possible and that includes working girls. I'll admit the blowjobs are more often better but beyond that, can't say I miss them. I haven't as of yet but will give a preference to any woman who indicates in her ad I probably won't have to deal with a black anywhere.

I say that it is up to the black people to look to themselves and improve their behavior and not the working girls responsibility to take on unnecessary excess risk. [/QUOTE]

Well said.

[QUOTE=Montidoc; 1163283]I see providing a GFE as a little different then say selling a pair of shoes. Your quote above says they are prejudiced. Is that because the client has to be white or because they have to be male? Does color matter but not sex? If so why? I see them as the same.

Many people of any sex / race are not comfortable having an intimate relationship with someone of some sex or race. If in all other matters they treat persons of that sex / race equally, does that make them racist / sexist? If I do not want to have sex with another man, am I sexist / prejudiced?

If one does not feel they can provide a GFE to some people, where / when should they indicate that: in their ad, when they are contacted, or when they first set eyes on the client? I would think the best time would be in the ad. Certainly when the client shows up is the worst choice. And doing it when they are contacted requires that the provider remembers to bring up the subject everytime they are contacted. That is hard to do with 100% accuracy. So mentioning it in their ad seems to me to be the best time. Certainly when I am looking for a provider, I want as much information as soon as possible. The more info in their ads, the better.

The fact that she is getting paid has nothing to do with it. An actor gets paid for acting in movies. But that does not mean they have to accept every role they are offered. If they do not like the script, they turn it down. They are getting paid for the roles they choose to accept. Same with a provider. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RomeoDandy; 1163091]I agree that there should be some discretion shown but I am at the point where I refuse to criticize the girl. In fact, based on:

1) Crime Statistics showing the wildly disproportionate numbers of violent crimes committed by blacks. Rape being a primary example.

And.

2) Mostly anecdotal evidence backed up by some polling indicating that blacks are awful tippers, (read that as cheap).

I hardly think that any girl should be criticized for wanting to meet someone who is less likely to be violent and more likely to be generous and that person is more likely to not be black.

It may be prejudice, but here's the thing, prejudice get's a bad rap but really it's a survival mechanism.

Now I would suggest that.

3) Incidents such as the recent rape of young (12?) hispanic girl by as many as 28 blacks (Texas) followed by the black community's refusal to outright condemn them and in fact to blame the victim and somehow or another fit whites into it.

And.

4) Our wonderful attorney generals race based sense of justice that indicates "his people" are to be protected at all costs.

Begs the question, at what point do white people (primarily) wake up to the idea that there is definitely a war on by blacks against whites? Anybody who would suggest there isn't is in my opinion, at best naive.

So, myself, as of recent times, I've made a conscious decision to boycott blacks as much as possible and that includes working girls. I'll admit the blowjobs are more often better but beyond that, can't say I miss them. I haven't as of yet but will give a preference to any woman who indicates in her ad I probably won't have to deal with a black anywhere.

I say that it is up to the black people to look to themselves and improve their behavior and not the working girls responsibility to take on unnecessary excess risk. [/QUOTE]As a black man with two degree's and make close to 100. 000 per year. I would really like to see this make believe poll being poor tippers and rapista. It very easy to to state this on a board but please publish your facts

[QUOTE=Badboy78;1163549]As a black man with two degree's and make close to 100. 000 per year. I would really like to see this make believe poll being poor tippers and rapista. It very easy to to state this on a board but please publish your facts[/QUOTE]Really? Two Degrees you say and yet you're unfamiliar with the Federal Bureau of Investigations Crime Stats? I can admit I used "prejudice" incorrectly, but I didn't use "anecdotally" incorrectly, unfamiliar with the word? Seems a successful man such as yourself with two degrees making about twice the median income would know that. Do you understand Bell Curves? Seems you should since you're about two deviations to the right.

Listen, you make about twice what I'll probably make this year, of course there's no affirmative action for me, still I'm sure I have to pay you something for all the hardship you've been through because god knows the blacks are the true humans or whatever it is. I'm also sure I need to apologize to you for something, it's been a week hasn't it? Just let me know.

Badboy, I don't see anything funny about blatant bigotry, or any point in trying to reason with it or reward the person who expresses it with the attention he looks for. It's indefensible. Period. It has no place on this board or in any civilized discussion.

Not that this has any relevance to escorts' policies, obviously.

[QUOTE=Badboy78;1163549]As a black man with two degree's and make close to 100. 000 per year. I would really like to see this make believe poll being poor tippers and rapista. It very easy to to state this on a board but please publish your facts[/QUOTE]Incidentally, here's your tipping poll, [url]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1329241[/url], took me all of 5 seconds to pull that, seems like you 2 degree $100k types should be able to do your own work.

People like you sicken me and here's why. This is an inherently risky endeavor for all concerned, working girls and working girl mongers, that's why people like me engage in it time to time, the risk factor, take away the risk and all you got is bestiality. We respond to risk by taking reasonable precautions, else we would be morons. Reasonable precautions are based on a variety of sources, some are statistics some are generalizations. We understand what generalizations are. Statistics are what they are, just because you don't like them doesn't make them less valid.

If a woman engages in this risky behavior and decides to limit that risk because of an intuitive understanding born out by statistics, who the hell are you to condemn her for it? Oh that's right, you're a black man, the most easily offended person in the history of mankind. You should be ashamed of yourself, you care so little for a woman that you would prefer she put aside her well founded fears just so you won't have to own up to the reality of the behavior of the black community at large. Shame on you. Of course we are talking about white women and if you would bother to do just a little research you can verify the treatment white women receive at the hands of black men and compare that to how white men treat black women. Asshole.

So how does this conversation apply to the review of a provider on Backpage? Notice the word (Review) not personal preference or choice, But Review. After all this tread happens to have the label BP advertiser reviews. Can we get back on topic please!

[QUOTE=Hickory Guy;1164252]So how does this conversation apply to the review of a provider on Backpage? Notice the word (Review) not personal preference or choice, But Review. After all this tread happens to have the label BP advertiser reviews. Can we get back on topic please![/QUOTE]Half the crap people post on this thread is off topic and bs. It's amazing how many times I log in and see that there are new posts, get excited because I think I'm getting ready to read a review and then see loads of off topic posts about providers weight, a posters preference or just plain bigotry. We need a new thread entitled General Bull&. I'm sure we all have an opinion on this general bull&$ but please, take it to a blog. Or at the very least, include a review with your post.

So I'll take my own advice. I just posted bull&$ but here's a review for you.

Saw the new "angel" (see link below). Well, I had a dream about her. She was an hour late but she did continuously communicate with me by phone. She finally arrived. She looks like the pics. I dreamed that she could have been a meth head because she was missing some teeth. I thought "oh boy." We chatted for about 5 minutes. She gave me her rules, which were no kissing and no DATY. She offered a BBBJ but I went with a cover, after seeing the 1 top tooth. After a CJB on with the action. I must say, despite the one top tooth and her no being GFE she has some skills. Her body is perfect, she smelled nice and she was into it. Had a decent time. But then I woke up from my dream. Not sure if I would repeat. You can PM for other details.

[url]http://charlotte.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/just-as-sweet-as-the-heavens-above-angels-here-in-town-27/4788366[/url]

[QUOTE=ConcordGuy; 1163532]I don't think this needs to be about race, it's about personal choice, but many people seem to be using the wrong word, if you are taking your life experience and crime statistics and other factors whatever they may be, and factoring that into your decision, thats not prejudice, the definition of prejudice is to "pre judge" that is judge a person / race without knowing anything about them prior to you judging them (here is a definition right out of the dictionary. An unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.) What your talking about is not "pre-judging" it's "Judging" it's making an informed opinion based on your prior life experiences, if she has "thoguht" about it and has a "reason" then she is not being prejudiced.

[/QUOTE]Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. If you got robbed once in your past by black men in ski-masks, should you be afraid of all men with dark skin color or all men wearing ski-masks? Over simplifying is prejudice. Maybe there were other factors that influenced those individuals other than the color of their skin? After putting that in writing how exactly does one's skin color affect their behavior exactly? It sounds absurd to me because it is.

Making assumptions and subscribing to stereotypes is prejudice. All Asians aren't good at Math. All southerners aren't bad tippers (not even when compared to their Yankee brethren). All black men aren't rapists. Substituting the word "All" with a statistical identifier or mathematical value is also unacceptable unless you've done some IRON CLAD research and had it reviewed and substantiated by other researchers. And no one here has done that, I'm sure you're all too busy getting your dicks wet. I know I am. Plus, all of the previous research I've happened across which deals with these topics have been biased and denounced.

What am I saying? I'm saying everyone should be evaluated by WHO they are, WHAT they think and WHAT they do. If you don't like something, that's fine if it's a preference, be discrete. Shouting out your preferences for the world to hear becomes a marketing strategy which I find tasteless. Nothing like a good skullfuck.

Also, this is on-topic. We're reviewing, or commenting on, the advertising strategies of our female friends.

I look at the comments being made about blacks and whites and all I can say is WOW! I thought we had moved past this along time ago? Providers will see who they want to see regardless of age, race or creed. We do live in the south and this is to be expected. Is it a personal preference sure it is, is that there right sure it is. I am a black man and I do see white women but I always ask them or check reviews just to make sure this way there's no conflict. Just do your research and you can find some gems out there that can see past the color of your skin. It just bothers me when a person can sit behind a computer and insult someone because of there race. If you state facts have something better than a tip you give at a restaurant, you give a incident where 11 black guys raped a girl but forget to mention 52% of the men who comitted rapes where white men over the age of 31. Yes you do have thugs in all races not just blacks so why try to make this a point for you. It's easy to spew garbage online but would you have the balls to walk up to a black man on the street and say these things? I don't think so. That's why people hide behind hoods. It's just ashame we still go through crap like this after all these years but some people will never change and probly teach there kids the same screwed up values that they believe!

[QUOTE=RomeoDandy; 1163798]Incidentally, here's your tipping poll,

[url]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1329241[/url]

, took me all of 5 seconds to pull that, seems like you 2 degree $100k types should be able to do your own work.

/edit/

People like you sicken me and here's why.

/edit/

Of course we are talking about white women and if you would bother to do just a little research you can verify the treatment white women receive at the hands of black men and compare that to how white men treat black women. Asshole. [/QUOTE]Holyfuck! I just read this and I'm shocked.

First off, regular member, shut your trap and do some hardcore reviewing. And if you are really a senior member and you're using this handle to be "anonymous" you're a coward.

Next, you can google the Internet, but can you read? [QUOTE=NPR;]"If a [waiter] says, 'I don't want to wait on that table because they're black or they're Hispanic, then they tend to give less service and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy," Fernandez explains.[/Quote]

And finally, you don't know anyone on here. So, you being sickened by what BadBoy said is absurd. I've got two degrees and make around what badboy does. My race is Human, my breeding is irrelevant. Just because you didn't make it through college in a lucrative field, don't resort to name calling others with better fortunes. You seem bitter and resentful of the success of others. Maybe yours is more a Marxist struggle than the Nazi's struggle?

Either way, now I'm really sorry I started this thread. My sincere apologies to all who had to read this drivel.