I haven't been in the hobby long but I've noticed.
In my limited experience that a lot of providers are afraid of cum! I'm lost on this one, it's like a mechanic that is obsessed about clean hands or a plumber that that can't handle that at times things get shitty. Your jerking off on their chest and they have their face covered because GOD forbid an errant wad of cum might splatter upon the precious face. There are two kinds of fun. The Lady who relishes a hot load and treats it like caviar and the ones that think a drop of cum will make them melt into non existence. Everything in the middle is meh! I had a provider that would spit while bitching about how she hated the taste (I need to eat more Pineapple), I asked her if she drinks milk. Of course she does so it now goes to "you'll drink a cows bodily fluids but mine are off limits" and guess what! It worked! She is a Master Cum Swallower now,(MCS) when she's not in jail. Has anger issues, fortunately not with me! Late night, thought I'd post. Peace to my Brothers and Sisters! JJ.
BBFS's Other Concern, very long post, you have been warned
There have been posts ad nauseum about BBFS and the chance of getting a STD. I don't want to start all over about that.
What I would like to ask those of you who seek and do BBFS, are you ever afraid of getting the lady pregnant. I know that some of the first responses would be: "She said she was on birth control", "she said she had 'plumbing issues that won't let her get pregnant. '" But do you really believe everything a provider says? The old saying, "How do you tell when a lawyer is lying? His mouth is moving" can be applied to providers and hobbyists alike. How many times have we said, "I will see you again" or "I am going to be a regular" as we left a not so great appointment? Only to write a so-so review and never see the lady again. Just like when the lady says, "Your dick is huge" or "I don't normally cum, but you made me cum twice". Add to that, "I can't get pregnant so fuck me BB" to the list.
Let's consider this scenario and discuss what you would do.
You see some hot, young thang on USAAC who just left BP because she doesn't understand how BitCoin works. She advertises $100 bucks an hour and because she is "new meat" all of the mongers chase her down.
You arrive at her incall. Proceed to do the DATY and BBBJ, but when it comes time to do the deed she says, "I don't have covers, but it okay to do bareback, I can't get pregnant. " She rocks your world so much you CIP twice in the hour. You leave thinking you have found a new ATF.
Two weeks later. You get a text: "Hey daddy, I missed my period and am pregnant. My legal aid lawyer said that I had to contact all of the guys I did bareback in the last month and get a DNA test. She said if you did not comply, she would get a court order. Sorry. Shit happens. Oh by the way, I ain't 19, I'm really 17. " Another discussion, but not now, is if she is truly 17 (or younger) you might get charged with statutory rape
Well I would die right then. Comply and find out I am the baby daddy or not comply and get a subpoena to comply by court order. The first can be done without the wife finding out, hopefully. The latter, not so much.
Now to stop the back and forth, I am sure that some will say, "It won't be me, because I shoot blanks. " Let's put that into some perspective for the providers' sake. According to the Brookings Institute About 8% of white, educated men have had a vasectomy. That percentage greatly decreases with minorities. About 1-2% of blacks and 3-4% of Hispanics use male sterilization as birth control.
That means about 92% of white mongers who fuck BB can impregnate the woman. 98% of black mongers and 96% of Hispanics can shoot the load that makes a baby.
Are you willing to be only 8% safe or less? The chances of a woman getting pregnant are slim, especially if her lifestyle, I. E. Diet, stress, drug use, keeps her from having a period. Let's say there is a 5% chance of making a baby with a woman you don't love and don't want to make that baby with, is it worth the risk?
Now the financial side of it. You "saved some money" by doing BB with a BP or hell, a street walker for $100 or less. She gets pregnant and decides to fuck you over and have the baby. If you are of modest means, you might get by with just $250 a month child support. Even if the mother dies from her habits you are still responsible to that child for at the minimum 18 years. Do the math, $250 a month, x 12 months in a year and then times 18 years. That equals $54,000 total. Oh I forgot to add in that cheap BB fuck you had for $100 an hour. I don't know about you, but $54,100. 00 is a lot to pay for a piece of ass.
BBFS is here, it never left even during the AIDS Hysteria of the '80's. The ladies hear it all of the time: "I can't get hard with a rubber" well that is your problem not hers. They also hear all of the time: "I always do BB with women, I am snipped. " If it were your life, would you take a 92% chance of them not lying?
This was meant to just open up some eyes about the REAL 8000 pound gorilla of fucking women bareback.
Please post your opinions. Try to be civil even though this is the Octagon.
Antibiotics and bcp. = my first born
[QUOTE=BTBear;3620407]There have been posts ad nauseum about BBFS and the chance of getting a STD. I don't want to start all over about that.
What I would like to ask those of you who seek and do BBFS, are you ever afraid of getting the lady pregnant. I know that some of the first responses would be: "She said she was on birth control", "she said she had 'plumbing issues that won't let her get pregnant. '" But do you really believe everything a provider says? The old saying, "How do you tell when a lawyer is lying? His mouth is moving" can be applied to providers and hobbyists alike. How many times have we said, "I will see you again" or "I am going to be a regular" as we left a not so great appointment? Only to write a so-so review and never see the lady again. Just like when the lady says, "Your dick is huge" or "I don't normally cum, but you made me cum twice". Add to that, "I can't get pregnant so fuck me BB" to the list.
Let's consider this scenario and discuss what you would do.
You see some hot, young thang on USAAC who just left BP because she doesn't understand how BitCoin works. She advertises $100 bucks an hour and because she is "new meat" all of the mongers chase her down.
You arrive at her incall. Proceed to do the DATY and BBBJ, but when it comes time to do the deed she says, "I don't have covers, but it okay to do bareback, I can't get pregnant. " She rocks your world so much you CIP twice in the hour. You leave thinking you have found a new ATF.
Two weeks later. You get a text: "Hey daddy, I missed my period and am pregnant. My legal aid lawyer said that I had to contact all of the guys I did bareback in the last month and get a DNA test. She said if you did not comply, she would get a court order. Sorry. Shit happens. Oh by the way, I ain't 19, I'm really 17. " Another discussion, but not now, is if she is truly 17 (or younger) you might get charged with statutory rape
Well I would die right then. Comply and find out I am the baby daddy or not comply and get a subpoena to comply by court order. The first can be done without the wife finding out, hopefully. The latter, not so much.
Now to stop the back and forth, I am sure that some will say, "It won't be me, because I shoot blanks. " Let's put that into some perspective for the providers' sake. According to the Brookings Institute About 8% of white, educated men have had a vasectomy. That percentage greatly decreases with minorities. About 1-2% of blacks and 3-4% of Hispanics use male sterilization as birth control.
That means about 92% of white mongers who fuck BB can impregnate the woman. 98% of black mongers and 96% of Hispanics can shoot the load that makes a baby.
Are you willing to be only 8% safe or less? The chances of a woman getting pregnant are slim, especially if her lifestyle, I. E. Diet, stress, drug use, keeps her from having a period. Let's say there is a 5% chance of making a baby with a woman you don't love and don't want to make that baby with, is it worth the risk?
Now the financial side of it. You "saved some money" by doing BB with a BP or hell, a street walker for $100 or less. She gets pregnant and decides to fuck you over and have the baby. If you are of modest means, you might get by with just $250 a month child support. Even if the mother dies from her habits you are still responsible to that child for at the minimum 18 years. Do the math, $250 a month, x 12 months in a year and then times 18 years. That equals $54,000 total. Oh I forgot to add in that cheap BB fuck you had for $100 an hour. I don't know about you, but $54,100. 00 is a lot to pay for a piece of ass.
BBFS is here, it never left even during the AIDS Hysteria of the '80's. The ladies hear it all of the time: "I can't get hard with a rubber" well that is your problem not hers. They also hear all of the time: "I always do BB with women, I am snipped. " If it were your life, would you take a 92% chance of them not lying?
This was meant to just open up some eyes about the REAL 8000 pound gorilla of fucking women bareback.
Please post your opinions. Try to be civil even though this is the Octagon.[/QUOTE]Bear can't agree more. But what several of these ladies don't know, and I'm sure my fellow mongers don't realize, if they are on bcp. Oh your safe. Wrong. She had a sinus infection last week and treated with an antibiotic. Antibiotics neutralize bcp. I know first hand. I have a daughter from mom and dad not reading the fine print. Just saying.
Society of the Ya Ya Sisterhood
[QUOTE=ChloeStarr;3620371]As a provider with on of the stricter screening processes, at least that's what I've been told LOL, Steve is deff a fav reference for me. I usually am not very willing to see someone that doesn't have an established member identity on usasg or other sites. But I have when they use Steve as a reference. He's always been quick to reply and honest. If he knowsnthe guy he tells you if he doesn't he tells you. Another great person for references is Velvet. She also responds quickly and honestly and is very nice while doing so. Other than that I've not had much luck with many other girls replying to my inquires for references. Or they lie and say they don't know the guy or that he's not a good guy and then proceed to text him themselves and ask him why he isn't coming to see them that they are available and offer lower donations. I've actually seen the texts before. It's to bad more providers don't stick together so to speak and have each other's back instead of being cut throat with one another.[/QUOTE]USASG is a Hobbyist's site. I have often thought that if an enterprising provider would start a USAP (USA Providers) site it would get some traction. It could be an avenue for the ladies to talk and bond. Would providers pay a minimal amount, say $20 a month, to be able to see reviews of the hobbyists? Most wouldn't, but those who are professional and treat this like it is, a business, might. But there are many of them who don't want to risk losing a client, which is why they don't reference.
We ALL have to have some way of looking out for each other. The sharing of knowledge is what this site was built on, it is a shame that providers don't have a place for themselves. Is a client safe? Is a client who forces anal on you? Is a client someone who tries to trick you into BBFS? Or, for most of us, "Is the guy a good guy?
Most of us respect rates. Most of us look for a connection with the lady who we fuck.
There is an independent site who has a forum for rating the hobbyist. They share info, does he need a magnum? Does he generally only go one round? Is he really a dorky asshole? All questions whose answers should be shared for the provider's safety.