[QUOTE=NatiDaddy;3073109][URL]http://local12.com/news/local/chase-suspect-arrested-in-blue-ash-appears-in-court[/URL][/QUOTE]Not charged? Huh. Not passing the smell test there either!
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[QUOTE=NatiDaddy;3073109][URL]http://local12.com/news/local/chase-suspect-arrested-in-blue-ash-appears-in-court[/URL][/QUOTE]Not charged? Huh. Not passing the smell test there either!
[QUOTE=HendoKy;3088811]Unfortunately, Uncle LEO has their phones as a search warrant was done, so the info is out there. Hopefully, in your hypothetical situation you used a drop or burner phone. If not, lesson learned.
Something about the whole thing does not pass the smell test. Sis pleas, wife takes it to trial, hubby charged. Think Sis is playing with the Uncle. Prob why it went on so long. She was prob giving up what she knew to stay out of the HamCo Hilton.
Probably not all done with the headlines since it is election time. Hopefully, your average monger is not worth the trouble for Uncle LEO. Now if you are a Fire Chief or political......Maybe lie low! Hypothetically.[/QUOTE]It seems somewhat unprecedented. Granted it doesn't mean it hasn't happened, I can't find a single story online of a retroactive sting. All seem to be undercover ads and people being caught red handed. Who knows though. Thanks. M.
None of us want to get caught up in this mess. Be careful.
[URL]http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/2016/09/26/prosecutors-man-pushed-runaway-teen-prostitution/91096210/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Mar1213;3089735]It seems somewhat unprecedented. Granted it doesn't mean it hasn't happened, I can't find a single story online of a retroactive sting. All seem to be undercover ads and people being caught red handed. Who knows though. Thanks. M.[/QUOTE]There is way too much trouble for the police department to bother with just monger phone numbers. I don't know what they would have to do to get text records (but who knows if the stupid girls ever deleted them) but if you never discussed money and activities at once there is no way to prove anything illegal happened and it just wouldn't hold up. If you talked drugs, yeah you could be looking at possible questioning if the phone you used is registered under your name and address. Reason #642 to always use an unregistered burner phone for your monger activities!
Remember that you do not have to answer questions if the police show up (you have that right not only under arrest, but also as a free American.) Have a defense lawyer in place if you're genuinely concerned. But I doubt this goes beyond the already involved parties and perhaps whomever was getting smack to them if they have a good lead on that.
I'd be more concerned about when they get out of jail and start up again, maybe as street walkers. Collaboration with LE is always a possibility for this kind of situation. Those two are off my list permanently and should be off for anybody sane enough to care about avoiding a sting later down the road.
Just saw this on a Chicago thread.
[URL]http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/backpage-raided-ceo-arrested-texas-42630540[/URL]
SP.
[QUOTE=Simonpieman;3102899]Just saw this on a Chicago thread.
[URL]http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/backpage-raided-ceo-arrested-texas-42630540[/URL]
SP.[/QUOTE]This is not going to work out well for him. There is no way BP can be sure someone is of legal age or not and you can damn well bet the Feds aren't going to care when they prosecute him. Man, he could be sent away for a long time for simply providing a service that is used by millions. Crack down hard on the pervs who are doing the kiddie porn but we are in the Dark Ages when it comes to allowing two consenting adults to meet and have sex with one another. Hard to believe consensual sex is still illegal when money is involved. Makes no sense whatsoever. Just drives the business underground.
I politely disagree. IMHO, BP will prove they're just the messenger and not responsible for what happens after. Unless they have darned good evidence this guy (s) got his hands physically involved I believe it's likely they won't serve time at all and likely not pay a dime either. Only the lawyers will win here. They've survived similar enforcement attempts in the past.
[QUOTE=3-MinutePassion;3103761]This is not going to work out well for him. There is no way BP can be sure someone is of legal age or not and you can damn well bet the Feds aren't going to care when they prosecute him. Man, he could be sent away for a long time for simply providing a service that is used by millions. Crack down hard on the pervs who are doing the kiddie porn but we are in the Dark Ages when it comes to allowing two consenting adults to meet and have sex with one another. Hard to believe consensual sex is still illegal when money is involved. Makes no sense whatsoever. Just drives the business underground.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mongernator;3103766]I politely disagree. IMHO, BP will prove they're just the messenger and not responsible for what happens after. Unless they have darned good evidence this guy (s) got his hands physically involved I believe it's likely they won't serve time at all and likely not pay a dime either. Only the lawyers will win here. They've survived similar enforcement attempts in the past.[/QUOTE]But the Feds seem to always be able to stack the deck in their favor.
[QUOTE=Mongernator;3103766]I politely disagree. IMHO, BP will prove they're just the messenger and not responsible for what happens after. Unless they have darned good evidence this guy (s) got his hands physically involved I believe it's likely they won't serve time at all and likely not pay a dime either. Only the lawyers will win here. They've survived similar enforcement attempts in the past.[/QUOTE]I think you make some good points and I'm leaning your way, but the only thing that scares me is the Feds rarely prosecute a case they feel they can't win. HL29.
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3103931]I think you make some good points and I'm leaning your way, but the only thing that scares me is the Feds rarely prosecute a case they feel they can't win. HL29.[/QUOTE]The California AG (Kamala Harris) organizing this witch hunt is running for the Senate seat of Barbara Boxer next year. Hence the grandstanding. She would like to win, but it doesn't matter; long after the case is tried all the public will remember is Kamala Harris is tough on crime. Blah blah trafficking blah blah internet brothel blah blah blah.
Usual talking points in the United Idiocracy of Amerika. I believe they will be exonerated. But its moot; the business will suffer and the political points will have been made. Lives ruined so Kamala Harris and local DA's can pursue their power trips.
[QUOTE=SpareChange99;3104027]The California AG (Kamala Harris) organizing this witch hunt is running for the Senate seat of Barbara Boxer next year. Hence the grandstanding. She would like to win, but it doesn't matter; long after the case is tried all the public will remember is Kamala Harris is tough on crime. Blah blah trafficking blah blah internet brothel blah blah blah.
Usual talking points in the United Idiocracy of Amerika. I believe they will be exonerated. But its moot; the business will suffer and the political points will have been made. Lives ruined so Kamala Harris and local DA's can pursue their power trips.[/QUOTE]Apparently the two stakeholders turned themselves in and all three were released on bail on Friday. Outcome will be very interesting, to say the least.
[QUOTE=Serhan1978;3117287]Apparently the two stakeholders turned themselves in and all three were released on bail on Friday. Outcome will be very interesting, to say the least.[/QUOTE]Why are politics legal, and why is " sexwork " illegal?
Stay Safe. LMh RX 4 CDR.
[QUOTE=LeoMac;3117383]Why are politics legal, and why is " sexwork " illegal?
Stay Safe. LMh RX 4 CDR.[/QUOTE]I'm not the AG, and I don't partake in conversations in politics. Those are for people with nothing else better to do. Like the goon heads that post in Rants and Raves on CL.
Better things to do than to go there.
Be safe.
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3103931]I think you make some good points and I'm leaning your way, but the only thing that scares me is the Feds rarely prosecute a case they feel they can't win. HL29.[/QUOTE]The other thing about the Feds, is they never go away. They start investigations and will stay with it for years before indictments get handed out, and then wait for a fuck-up. Remember that Martha Stewart went to jail for lying to federal investigators.
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3103931]I think you make some good points and I'm leaning your way, but the only thing that scares me is the Feds rarely prosecute a case they feel they can't win. HL29.[/QUOTE]You are right and the Fed's rarely take on a case they can't win. IMHO here in this case they may have a few ladies that made deals to avoid jail. These gals are probably regular BP posters who have paid money for their ads to keep them at the top of the page. Since BP took said money for the advertisment of prostitution that could constitue complicity. This would be my guess as to what the Fed's are basing their charges on. But that's just my opinion.