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Appreciate the comments & thoughts. We did the luxury hotel thing for a week at Walt Disney in FL and it was kickin' as you might expect. Tried to go the Hilton route here and tried to talk her out of it, no luck. It's one of her fantasies (among others we've fulfilled) and she insists. So, WTF, who am I to argue especially knowing she's so very much into it. And, if she gets her jollies, I get mine.

[QUOTE=Johnjohn 30; 1162424]Don't cheap out, get a kickin' hotel room, like the Hilton or something swank downtown. And only put monopoly money in the envelope. When she says,"WTF?" you can tell her "Shit, I wouldn't pay for sex! This was all just role playing, right?".

Good luck. I can see that scenario going wrong in so many ways.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ConcordGuy;1159452]Is it just me or is anyone else turned off by the girls advertising "call now appointments going fast" or some similar comment in their posts.[/QUOTE]I know from experience that our Uncle has a twisted sense of humor. So ads that mention "get what you deserve" or "surprises" are immediately ruled out for me. Anything with a legal hint of irony is ruled out too. Girls named "Miranda" for example, not for me, thanks but no thanks. Oh, taking a photo in an obviously fake, sexy, cop, Halloween, outfit doesn't do it for me either. Not going anywhere near that. Most cops are really cool people and they drop subtle hints. In my experience cops hate stupid people and lazy people. So, if you're dumb enough to miss their clues they feel even better about doing their crappy jobs. It's a psychological coping strategy and it is very effective both for the police officer to avoid guilt and the monger who pays attention to detail.

Now the other thing that sucks about Mongering (and not in the good way) are the Pimpage. If a girl is escorting because they want to that's great. More power to you sweetheart! If a girl is being forced into it that is horrible; I would love to personally drain the life from the pimp who is enslaving her. (Yes, that's a violent image of me strangling a hood rat with a makeshift garrote. I'd probably never do it. I'm smart enough to know you can't beat a murder rap. But, I can fantasize about it. Let's call it private performance art.) So, any hint of a pimp and I stay away. Far, far away. However, I do love me some independent ladies.

A girl calling herself a "Stallion" is a personal favorite of mine. I love emailing them and asking,"So, you're telling me you were born a man and you're hung like a horse?" LOL! Along these lines, poor grammar is never a turn on. And the women who say,"White men only, just my preference," are not only prejudiced but are clueless. You're getting paid honey. This is not a dating site. Even if I fit their preferences I pass on them. We're all red-blooded human beings and there is no place in life for this kind of stupidity. Race is a farce, perpetuated by idiots. Our race is HUMAN, you're breed might be Asian, or African, White, etc. And, for what it's worth, if you're prejudiced you're not a good American in my eyes.

Girls that don't answer TXT messages are ruled out too. I'm in meetings all day. And at my company it's perfectly acceptable to whip-out my phone and shoot off a quick TXT in a meeting. They don't know if it was work related or not. When I get to take a break and leave I can call when I'm on my way, but I'm only calling once and NO I'm not waiting in the parking lot while you finish off the guy you have in your room now. If you're seeing more than one guy every two hours, and not cleaning up in between, I have no desire to even let you have one of my secret recipe protein shakes, let alone touch any of your dirty bits.

There's more. I can go on and on and on. But I've got things to see and people to do today.

[QUOTE=Kitty Hunter;1160320]I reviewed 5 last week on same message in Spartanburg just to keep my count down. You will see that most SM's reviews are dribble, or outdated.[/QUOTE]You figured us out. A real monger will hold a find or two close and not share the best of the best with the group. At least not right away that is. You see, if I tell you my best find, she'll get busy and won't have time for me. Or some dumb newb will throw money at her like a fool and ruin the current economics of the situation for everyone else.

So yeah, you can have the ones I'm done with.

And what the heck is that '5 Spartanburg review' comment supposed to mean? Why are you trying to keep your count down? And why are you seeing 5 in a week? Or were some of those reviews old and outdated? .

[QUOTE=ConcordGuy; 1162342]Grimpy a tip I have learned hopefully this helps you (and anyone else reading this) in the future. Don't hand over your money till she agrees to what you want, I know some guys balk at the though of a negotiation, but I look at it this way, the girl sets the price, thats fine, but it's still your option to make sure you know what your getting for that set price. For those who say no negotiating in their ads, your not asking her to change her price, you just making sure you both are expecting the same thing out of the session. I have found even girls who other guys reviews said only did one pop, if you ask them before they get their money many will change their tune. I mena don't expect to get a non GFE to give you GFE session, but getting a second pop is almost a no brainer. This is especially true for girls who advertise the "quick visit: and half hour sessions, if she says she doesn't do two pops you ask her then why should I get an hour session instead of a half hour? With this tactic even with the occasional girls who don't want to budge on the two pops you can still change an hour appt to a half hour and save yourself a few bucks. Only thing is if you are going to negotiate, you should be prepared to leave, never let the little head do the thinking until AFTER you and her have agreed on whats expected, I have only had to walk out 2 times on girls, (well technically 3) but have been headed to the door at least 5 and only 2 times did they let me get out the other 3 they changed their mind and said two pops was ok, (the technically 3 is because on one of the three where they changed their mind I really didn't liek the girls attitude so I used her lack of cooperation as an excuse to cut out on the appointment, but she had agreed to two pops before I decided to leave anyway.) You just have to get the attitude that your the customer, and if she doesn't treat you the way you think you should be treated you can spend your money on another provider. Not that I don't also treat the girls I see very well, especially if I have seen her before and had a good time, but if it's your first time with a girl, until the negotiation is over keep it all business.

One important thing to remember once you walk through their door they count you as money already made, they see you ready to walk out and they get nervous and start getting into the "do whatever it takes to make the client happy" mode.

One thing that can make it easier to walk out is if you have a couple backup numbers handy in the car, especially if you have a regular girl who si a reliable backup, if your already out and ready you can call another girl and be at her room within 30 minutes of leaving the other girl. [/QUOTE]Always wonderd how to go about negotiating, but after reading your post the old saying is true you can teach a OLD DOG new tricks.

Thanks ConcordGuy

[QUOTE=Bangingu; 1162485]Always wonderd how to go about negotiating, but after reading your post the old saying is true you can teach a OLD DOG new tricks.

Thanks ConcordGuy[/QUOTE]Yeah, I should have thought of this too. But like you said, thinking with the wrong head, was too polite, etc.

BTW, she offered threesome with her sister (advertising as Romi) , but didn't state price.

[QUOTE=Johnjohn 30; 1162473]You figured us out. A real monger will hold a find or two close and not share the best of the best with the group. At least not right away that is. You see, if I tell you my best find, she'll get busy and won't have time for me. Or some dumb newb will throw money at her like a fool and ruin the current economics of the situation for everyone else.

So yeah, you can have the ones I'm done with.

And what the heck is that '5 Spartanburg review' comment supposed to mean? Why are you trying to keep your count down? And why are you seeing 5 in a week? Or were some of those reviews old and outdated? . [/QUOTE]I actually went back and looked at "kitty hunters" posts, (there were only 18 so it wasnt too hard) the post with "5 reviews" was one short paragraph called "strike 3" because he was reviewing 3 girls not 5, and only three short sentences to review all three girls? Very short and no good information) but even with just three the "reviews" were bare minimum, the other 2 "reviews" were one girl who didn't show (how do you count a no show as a review?) and one was very vague referring to a girl he had "seen in the past and would see again" but other than that review more than half his posts are BS filler so don't let him kid you. One of his great "reviews" was for a girl he had only seen an ad for on BP claiming that even though he hadn't seen her "look out for a bait and switch"? WTF? (girls I have seen personally and know they do not pull a bait and switch) Another of his great info filled posts was for another girl he had "tried to see but could not reach" and this guy wonders why no SM will share info with him. He also seems to be jealous of senior members as he has several posts about them, one saying he sent a PM to a senior member and was mad because the guy didn't send him info back, he even spent a whole post on spartanburg forum talking about how the forums need to get rid of Senior members, or drop the requirement to only 5 posts. LOL yeah thats a great information filled post you have there, the guy even says in that post that he has two providers to recommend, one that was very bad that he will recommend to senior members and one he thinks will be good that he will recommend to regular members, yeah tell us ahead of time your going to start recommending bad providers thats a good way to build up trust with the boards huh? Here's a quote from his post:

"I'm going to do a side by side comparison next week of two providers, one that I'm already seen, who was horrible that I was going to recommend to Senior Members, then hopefully, the one I'm arranging for next week that I hope will be much better that I was going to hold my information for RM's only."

Yes I will admit I have some posts that are not solely information and some that may be off topic, but didn't start doing that until well after I was a SM, you kitty hunter started doing in about your 10th post. Maybe if you spent less time complaining about the senior members you would have more time to gather good info and get the senior members to know / trust you.

I'm not saying ALL his posts are junk, but when you only have 18 if half or more are thats not very good, but really you shouldn't criticize other for posting "dribble" when your own posts have more than their share of it. And maybe fi your posts had information instead of just bashing senior members people would be sharing info with you by now, there are several regular members who frequent the charlotte boards who I would trust with info, SM is not some secret club (although I recently found out we get a whistle) regular members who post good info and don't just whine about no one sharing with them get good info back and become trusted whether they are SM or not, and there are SM who don't, won't share who other SM don't know / trust so it works both ways.

The only thing that may change is the gas money-tip, she doesn't quote 2 right away but asks where you are, I guess I was closer to her so my gas money / tip ws only. 15, if your farther it might be a little more, other than that I agree with everything they said, just to clarify, one guys said rules, one said none were mentioned, when I saw her she really only had one rule junior didn't get a hiding place if you catch my drift, (no FS no oral) but she still made him very happy (twice, once in the bed with the oil, once in the shower).

[QUOTE=Jrzyboy; 1162388]Met her a couple of days ago. She doesn't post her # so you have to email then she will respond with her#

Very easy to get ahold of and set up an appointment. I would consider her a bbw. Around 5-9 in height and probably 170. I could be way off on her weight but she was definitely a large girl. No rules were mentioned.

Lots of oil. Massage was on the hard side, which is the way I like it. Overall a good time which I probably will repeat. She seemed to enjoy herself. I thought her rate was a little low and was worried once I got there she would try to upsell me. But nothing was mentioned. After massage we took a shower together.

SM may contact me for any additional info. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ConcordGuy;1162690]The only thing that may change is the gas money-tip, she doesn't quote 2 right away but asks where you are, I guess I was closer to her so my gas money / tip ws only. 15, if your farther it might be a little more, other than that I agree with everything they said, just to clarify, one guys said rules, one said none were mentioned, when I saw her she really only had one rule junior didn't get a hiding place if you catch my drift, (no FS no oral) but she still made him very happy (twice, once in the bed with the oil, once in the shower).[/QUOTE]I had a second visit with her last weekend. Same thing I gave her the. 2 for a tip mostly because I think she is pretty cool. She will go as fast or as slow as you want. Is open to you telling her what yopu want. And is easy going and quick to laugh. Same 2 rules. All outside work. She did object (only slightly) to some of the mutual touching, and I respected her wishesnot all girls like all access.

If I lived in Charlotte I would have kept quite about her. But thought I would help her out by posting.

[QUOTE=Johnjohn 30;1162460]A girl calling herself a "Stallion" is a personal favorite of mine. I love emailing them and asking,"So, you're telling me you were born a man and you're hung like a horse?" LOL! Along these lines, poor grammar is never a turn on. And the women who say,"White men only, just my preference," are not only prejudiced but are clueless. You're getting paid honey. This is not a dating site. Even if I fit their preferences I pass on them. We're all red-blooded human beings and there is no place in life for this kind of stupidity. Race is a farce, perpetuated by idiots. Our race is HUMAN, you're breed might be Asian, or African, White, etc. And, for what it's worth, if you're prejudiced you're not a good American in my eyes.[/QUOTE]I have also wondered what possesses some girls to label themselves "stallions" and right away even though I know they are probably just ignorant and not really born a male I write them off. BUT I don't see why some people have such a problem with girls who have a preference for white men. I have even asked some girls I have been with who have advertised that and while it may be "stereotyping" it's not always prejudice or rascism. I even saw one girl who told me she dated black guys but would not "see them professionally" Anyway, like you said we are all "human" and that goes for the girls as well, if she has a preference thats her right, it is her body after all isn't it? If she wants to lose business by being more selective with her clients who cares? Funny thing I I see guys putting down girls all the time for saying "no black men" but have rarely seen girls who say they date only black guys take the same criticism, why is that? And why does everything have to be about race, really when it comes down to it is this any different than any other restriction a provider puts on her ads? I mean if a Girl says she won't see guys under 35 isn't she also showing just as much "prejudice?" So do you cut those off your list as well huh? Or what about girls who do screening? They never say what specifically they are screening for so they could be screening out certain races or ages or whatever. And what about girls who won't let you call from a blocked number? They are prejudiced against technology!

I say it's the girls option to see who she wants and not see who she doesn't, I can see calling someone prejudiced or rascist if they were saying something like "black people shouldn't have the right to vote," or "black people shouldn't be allowed in certain places," yes that would be prejudiced and rascist, but a girl having a preference for white guys is no more prejudice than a girl who prefers guys with dark hair over blonds. I've dated black girls in the past and would do it again if I met the right person, but usually stick to white providers does that make me prejudiced too?

I too read over his posts, I didn't want to call him out on it. I figured most SM's are smart enough to check out a member before putting too much stock in their posts or recommendations. I even mentioned that we don't withhold info to make it hard on them / him, but to protect the girls and the rest of us.

I guess in the long run, I'm just saying there's no need for him to be a prick, and recommend a bad provider to a SM, and a good one to the RM's. After seeing that, I decided then, he is not the type of monger I need to share intel with, good or bad!

That bi-racial provider I see every now and then advertises that she will only see guys over 45 and white? That is her preference even though she looks more black than white? If I were to guess, I would bet her dad was her white parent? But that is just a guess I never asked her. We all have our preferences. Some like the tiny little spinners and some like a woman with a little meat on her bones. Variety is what makes the world go around.

[QUOTE=ConcordGuy; 1162743]I have also wondered what possesses some girls to label themselves "stallions" and right away even though I know they are probably just ignorant and not really born a male I write them off. BUT I don't see why some people have such a problem with girls who have a preference for white men. I have even asked some girls I have been with who have advertised that and while it may be "stereotyping" it's not always prejudice or rascism. I even saw one girl who told me she dated black guys but would not "see them professionally" Anyway, like you said we are all "human" and that goes for the girls as well, if she has a preference thats her right, it is her body after all isn't it? If she wants to lose business by being more selective with her clients who cares? Funny thing I I see guys putting down girls all the time for saying "no black men" but have rarely seen girls who say they date only black guys take the same criticism, why is that? And why does everything have to be about race, really when it comes down to it is this any different than any other restriction a provider puts on her ads? I mean if a Girl says she won't see guys under 35 isn't she also showing just as much "prejudice?" So do you cut those off your list as well huh? Or what about girls who do screening? They never say what specifically they are screening for so they could be screening out certain races or ages or whatever. And what about girls who won't let you call from a blocked number? They are prejudiced against technology!

I say it's the girls option to see who she wants and not see who she doesn't, I can see calling someone prejudiced or rascist if they were saying something like "black people shouldn't have the right to vote," or "black people shouldn't be allowed in certain places," yes that would be prejudiced and rascist, but a girl having a preference for white guys is no more prejudice than a girl who prefers guys with dark hair over blonds. I've dated black girls in the past and would do it again if I met the right person, but usually stick to white providers does that make me prejudiced too? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ConcordGuy;1162743]BUT I don't see why some people have such a problem with girls who have a preference for white men. I have even asked some girls I have been with who have advertised that and while it may be "stereotyping" it's not always prejudice or rascism.[/QUOTE]I believe the original post asked for opinions. It is my opinion that if a girl has that preference, she should screen discretely. Shouting it out in a backpage ad is, again in my opinion, bad form and a huge turn-off.

Also, I've seen some newbs ask for photos of mongers stating they have 'standards'. LOL! Right, jump on match dot com honey, you're in the wrong forum. LOL!

And the only guys over a certain age thing tells me something. It says to me,"An 18 year old is not going to find me attractive, so let's just skip it for everyone's sake."

[QUOTE=Gigabyte40; 1161171]A hobbyist who uses this board went to see a provider in Charlotte. He met her through a referral he received via private message from another member on this board. Emailed the provider to set it up. Everything went well, good service, good referral etc.

But the provider asked what "name" the hobbyist uses here on usasg. He refused to tell her. I think it would be a mistake to reveal your identity here to anyone. She could have made a connection between the login name, his email address, his phone number, and possibly even his license tag. His image might have appeared on a hidden camera too. Yes he became paranoid. Even though good service was provided, there could always be some kind of sting in the works.

Protect your identity. Be careful out there. [/QUOTE]I only have one handle online. My only mongering identity is my email address. If I have a bad review to post, I post it knowing I'm burning a bridge. It's incentive for me to think with my big-head. I also ask afterward if they'd rather I not say anything online. If not, and it would have been a positive review, I keep my mouth shut. If it's a negative review, I don't ask, I don't care, I don't want to ever go back. Besides, all of you need to know about the bad.

Light screening? I tell them to google my email address and feel free to ask anyone about me. I only have my real identity to hide. Just ask them to answer the same questions they are asking you. You'd like to see my driver's license, sure, let me see yours first.

[QUOTE=Johnjohn 30; 1162870]I believe the original post asked for opinions. It is my opinion that if a girl has that preference, she should screen discretely. Shouting it out in a backpage ad is, again in my opinion, bad form and a huge turn-off.

Also, I've seen some newbs ask for photos of mongers stating they have 'standards'. LOL! Right, jump on match dot com honey, you're in the wrong forum. LOL!

And the only guys over a certain age thing tells me something. It says to me,"An 18 year old is not going to find me attractive, so let's just skip it for everyone's sake."[/QUOTE]I agree that there should be some discretion shown but I am at the point where I refuse to criticize the girl. In fact, based on:

1) Crime Statistics showing the wildly disproportionate numbers of violent crimes committed by blacks. Rape being a primary example.

And.

2) Mostly anecdotal evidence backed up by some polling indicating that blacks are awful tippers, (read that as cheap).

I hardly think that any girl should be criticized for wanting to meet someone who is less likely to be violent and more likely to be generous and that person is more likely to not be black.

It may be prejudice, but here's the thing, prejudice get's a bad rap but really it's a survival mechanism.

Now I would suggest that.

3) Incidents such as the recent rape of young (12?) hispanic girl by as many as 28 blacks (Texas) followed by the black community's refusal to outright condemn them and in fact to blame the victim and somehow or another fit whites into it.

And.

4) Our wonderful attorney generals race based sense of justice that indicates "his people" are to be protected at all costs.

Begs the question, at what point do white people (primarily) wake up to the idea that there is definitely a war on by blacks against whites? Anybody who would suggest there isn't is in my opinion, at best naive.

So, myself, as of recent times, I've made a conscious decision to boycott blacks as much as possible and that includes working girls. I'll admit the blowjobs are more often better but beyond that, can't say I miss them. I haven't as of yet but will give a preference to any woman who indicates in her ad I probably won't have to deal with a black anywhere.

I say that it is up to the black people to look to themselves and improve their behavior and not the working girls responsibility to take on unnecessary excess risk.

[QUOTE=Johnjohn 30;1162870]I believe the original post asked for opinions. It is my opinion that if a girl has that preference, she should screen discretely. Shouting it out in a backpage ad is, again in my opinion, bad form and a huge turn-off.[/QUOTE]Right on! Excluding all black men for the purpose of safety is bullshit. That's what screening through references is for. If an escort has a personal reason for discriminating, IMO she should find a less obnoxious way of signaling it than to stink up Backpage (which, relatively speaking, is not an easy thing to do).