[QUOTE=Organiz;7366955]How old is that bish? 70? That vejay is most definitely full of cobwebs.[/QUOTE]Pussy is as dry as the Mojave. She doesn't fuck anymore. FBSM only. I used to fuck her. She was OK. But runs her mouth non stop.
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[QUOTE=Organiz;7366955]How old is that bish? 70? That vejay is most definitely full of cobwebs.[/QUOTE]Pussy is as dry as the Mojave. She doesn't fuck anymore. FBSM only. I used to fuck her. She was OK. But runs her mouth non stop.
[QUOTE=k__rat;7366122]I don't know how organized it is but there it definitely seems like they are all attempting to make $400/ hour the new base rate. Which is frankly insane and is driving me out of the hobby.[/QUOTE]Grandma SaraFoxxx didn't "organize" them so much as she back-channeled information via TNA, often via her various providers-only forums. Is that organized? Maybe, but there was no specific organization tying them together like a union.
I was shown these forum discussions, and many PMs from SaraFoxxx to a several different providers. I'd say it bordered on harassment, and there was a heavy dose of peer pressure. To summarize it all, some providers were positioning customers as trash and providers in the Portland area as undervalued, and claimed that raising rates would prevent customers they thought were the worst to stop seeing providers. Essentially, they were trying to price people out of the hobby on the premise that people who just wanted something affordable were bad actors.
There was a small faction of providers, all older, who were backing SaraFoxxx's efforts, too. All these older providers were claiming to have raised their rates and seen little or no decline in "traffic" through their doors, which was and is conjecture.
Some of the providers I knew at the time who showed me all this communication left Portland thereafter, in no small part due to this rallying cry. Some viewed it as harassment. Girls who wanted to work independently and make their money just uprooted and went to other areas of the country where they weren't bothered, often not far. As much as we slam it, TNA is the board which gets providers the most traffic in Portland, so they're almost forced to use it, which meant they were subject to this effort / communication to raise rates.
Rates went up in Portland, and it's had a residual effect since. You know what hasn't changed? Sob stories about providers needing to make money to pay rent, being unable to afford random bills, and other "please help me" posts on TNA. Either rate increases aren't working, or having more money hasn't helped with poor money management.
Portland is now well known as a town with high rates. It's also known as a town where the women asking those rates don't stack up to girls in other areas asking the same, or less. Providers may not like that, or agree, but it's true. And the point providers are missing is that the opinions of the people paying are truly the only thing that matters.
Now, if we want to call what happened an "organized" effort, it only worked in spirit.
So they're trying to get rid of cheap clients, so they raise rates and offer less, no GFE, BBBJ, fiv, cim, etc, the fuck?
And the gps board still has fat whales asking for inflated rates, fuck that.
[QUOTE=Mizunate;7369646]Grandma SaraFoxxx didn't "organize" them so much as she back-channeled information via TNA, often via her various providers-only forums. Is that organized? Maybe, but there was no specific organization tying them together like a union.
I was shown these forum discussions, and many PMs from SaraFoxxx to a several different providers. I'd say it bordered on harassment, and there was a heavy dose of peer pressure. To summarize it all, some providers were positioning customers as trash and providers in the Portland area as undervalued, and claimed that raising rates would prevent customers they thought were the worst to stop seeing providers. Essentially, they were trying to price people out of the hobby on the premise that people who just wanted something affordable were bad actors.
There was a small faction of providers, all older, who were backing SaraFoxxx's efforts, too. All these older providers were claiming to have raised their rates and seen little or no decline in "traffic" through their doors, which was and is conjecture.
Some of the providers I knew at the time who showed me all this communication left Portland thereafter, in no small part due to this rallying cry. Some viewed it as harassment. Girls who wanted to work independently and make their money just uprooted and went to other areas of the country where they weren't bothered, often not far. As much as we slam it, TNA is the board which gets providers the most traffic in Portland, so they're almost forced to use it, which meant they were subject to this effort / communication to raise rates.
Rates went up in Portland, and it's had a residual effect since. You know what hasn't changed? Sob stories about providers needing to make money to pay rent, being unable to afford random bills, and other "please help me" posts on TNA. Either rate increases aren't working, or having more money hasn't helped with poor money management.
Portland is now well known as a town with high rates. It's also known as a town where the women asking those rates don't stack up to girls in other areas asking the same, or less. Providers may not like that, or agree, but it's true. And the point providers are missing is that the opinions of the people paying are truly the only thing that matters.
Now, if we want to call what happened an "organized" effort, it only worked in spirit.[/QUOTE]Funny thing, Sara's price point is $150!
[QUOTE=Organiz;7370143]So they're trying to get rid of cheap clients, so they raise rates and offer less, no GFE, BBBJ, fiv, cim, etc, the fuck?
And the gps board still has fat whales asking for inflated rates, fuck that.[/QUOTE]I have a feeling the younger generation is super touch avoidant in general (in their personal lives, everywhere).
I'm no expert for sure, but just about any ad from girls in their 20's seems to be a string of "no"s in their menu.
[QUOTE=QuickFoot;7371931]I have a feeling the younger generation is super touch avoidant in general (in their personal lives, everywhere).
I'm no expert for sure, but just about any ad from girls in their 20's seems to be a string of "no"s in their menu.[/QUOTE]I'll definitely avoid those type of providers aka mostly young spoil strippers, they have no GFE in their ad, hmm. I'm guessing they're dead fish in bed and not a great fuck, why should I spend my cash on a lame fuck? You got simp (perhaps providers logged in as hobbyist or pimp) leaving glowing reviews. Fuck that.
Its usually the girls who have been in the biz for a while. They start out great. But honey moon phase leaves quickly. She finds out the pay is the same and after a short while. She feels nothing. Just lets the guy do his thing. Its a sad fact. But many clients a day. How many orgasms can you have from all the guys. I do like the chase and finding the innocent just 19 year olds who are starting out. Some can be a ton of fun. You also have to remind them. YOU are the one paying and expect something for the money. , After all A dick does not suck its self. That said. Stand a tad firmer on expectation and see what you can get. Treat them well and results are better, Asking if they are hungry. Need to stop at Mc D or jack in the crack sometimes goes a long ways.
A well known and longstanding provider recently told me we "wouldn't be a good match" and blocked me.
I've never seen her. In fact, we were talking about meeting up two weeks prior, but our schedules didn't align. The conversation at that time was really friendly. Then, suddenly, I'm not a good match for her and I'm blocked.
No explanation (she doesn't owe me one, of course) but it was really odd. First time that's happened to me. I'm sort of insulted as I've never had any serious issue with any provider, and have / am seeing other providers. I'm just a bit taken aback by that.
And offended, honestly.
Has that ever happened to you?
[QUOTE=Mizunate;7430248]A well known and longstanding provider recently told me we "wouldn't be a good match" and blocked me.
I've never seen her. In fact, we were talking about meeting up two weeks prior, but our schedules didn't align. The conversation at that time was really friendly. Then, suddenly, I'm not a good match for her and I'm blocked.
No explanation (she doesn't owe me one, of course) but it was really odd. First time that's happened to me. I'm sort of insulted as I've never had any serious issue with any provider, and have / am seeing other providers. I'm just a bit taken aback by that.
And offended, honestly.
Has that ever happened to you?[/QUOTE]Lmao, yeah, because she noticed I saw another provider that's known to offer BBFS, so I switch to my alt handle and saw her bbfscip on second visit, lmao.
[QUOTE=QuickFoot;7371931]I have a feeling the younger generation is super touch avoidant in general (in their personal lives, everywhere).
I'm no expert for sure, but just about any ad from girls in their 20's seems to be a string of "no"s in their menu.[/QUOTE]Rates are getting to be 300 qv 400 hhr 500 hr, then afterwards they put up special lower rate 😅.
I got two that's still in the 120 qv 150 hhr range, but same pussy is boring pussy for me, I'm saving up $ so when I'm out of town for vacation I got enough to cover hotel room and seeing 2/3 TDL BBFS slamdunk providers, taking rhino pills helps staying hard for three pops.
[QUOTE=Organiz;7430343]Rates are getting to be 300 qv 400 hhr 500 hr, then afterwards they put up special lower rate 😅.
I got two that's still in the 120 qv 150 hhr range, but same pussy is boring pussy for me, I'm saving up $ so when I'm out of town for vacation I got enough to cover hotel room and seeing 2/3 TDL BBFS slamdunk providers, taking rhino pills helps staying hard for three pops.[/QUOTE]If you want to save your money to bang hotties, do the Prague, Budapest, Vienna, Krakow trail. Sure, it will cost you $4000 to be there for two weeks, including airfare, but you can bang girls that would charge $600-$800/ hour (all 7's to 10's) here for 100 to 150 euros per hour, and for the 150, you are getting full GFE: daty, BBBJCIM, dfk, etc. And in Vienna, half of them offer AO (bbfscip), and most of them are Romanian, Hungarian, and Ukrainian. And, unless you get a lame, which is rare, most of them love doing it. It's why I go every spring!
[QUOTE=JJohnJack;7430444]If you want to save your money to bang hotties, do the Prague, Budapest, Vienna, Krakow trail. Sure, it will cost you $4000 to be there for two weeks, including airfare, but you can bang girls that would charge $600-$800/ hour (all 7's to 10's) here for 100 to 150 euros per hour, and for the 150, you are getting full GFE: daty, BBBJCIM, dfk, etc. And in Vienna, half of them offer AO (bbfscip), and most of them are Romanian, Hungarian, and Ukrainian. And, unless you get a lame, which is rare, most of them love doing it. It's why I go every spring![/QUOTE]You lucky mofo! Hopefully I'll save enough before the gps pandemic reaches there.
It would be a great Boys trip to visit, How do we all get free from the significant others to go. I need a new job or reason to travel. I am not beyond it. Done it in the past. But darn. To nail some Ukrainian girls that are all as hot as fuck, It would be worth it to go there. You inspired me.
[QUOTE=JJohnJack;7430444]If you want to save your money to bang hotties, do the Prague, Budapest, Vienna, Krakow trail. Sure, it will cost you $4000 to be there for two weeks, including airfare, but you can bang girls that would charge $600-$800/ hour (all 7's to 10's) here for 100 to 150 euros per hour, and for the 150, you are getting full GFE: daty, BBBJCIM, dfk, etc. And in Vienna, half of them offer AO (bbfscip), and most of them are Romanian, Hungarian, and Ukrainian. And, unless you get a lame, which is rare, most of them love doing it. It's why I go every spring![/QUOTE]Can you pm what site you use over there? Or do you just hit the blade and catch what you like.
[QUOTE=Organiz;7430743]Can you pm what site you use over there? Or do you just hit the blade and catch what you like.[/QUOTE]There really aren't any "blades" over there. If you get hit up by a SW near the War Memorial statue in Praha 2 in Prague, they are going to be skanky Roma chicks in their late 30's. Everything is on-line now. Best bet in Prague is to go to the private brothels, called privats. Starting cost for 1/2 hour is 80 euros. Best one is called Top Privat (google it). Some people like the commercial brothels like the Showpark, but it ends up being a hundred guys pawing over 30 girls, all running around trying to get the hottest ones. Those are more like strip clubs that you can take women to private rooms in back. The private brothels are usually in a house with 3 or 4 rooms, usually with 3 to 4 women working at a time.
Budapest has a blade but it can be rather dangerous from what I understand. It's over by the airport in a very seedy part of town. Best thing to do is go on-line and get a provider who does outcall to your hotel room. Also, if you know how to talk up women in bars, quite a few of them with spend they night with you for 300-400 euros. I did this with a beautiful blond girl in her mid-20's who was actually my guide on a tour! We both ended up bonding over the homeless issues in Budapest and politics (she hating on their socialist mayor).
Vienna is the BBFS capital of the world. There are some brothels, but its easier just to get on-line and order your hottest Romanian girl you can find. Many of the the sites even have reviews, but you'll need a translation app to get the English version.
Don't sleep on Poland. I spent time in Krakow, personally. Same situation as Vienna. You can chat up a 5'10", blonde, modelesque 22-year old Polish girl, and get her to come home with you for the night. Also, they have on-line market places as well. On two successive nights I banged two 19 year old Polish girls for 120 euros each. There's also a bunch of Ukrainian girls there as well.
Plus, all of these cities are some of the most beautiful, most fun, most affodable places to visit in Europe. I'll never go back to Western Europe again!