Seeking Arrangements (SA)

[QUOTE=KnoxTNman;3136057]How many of you are paying for just a meet and greet? Some of the girls I talked to are expecting anywhere between $100-$200 to meet and say hello. This sounds more like a scam than a legit reason to discuss arrangement.[/QUOTE]I have only paid for a m / g once but I made sure I got my money's worth. She was insistent, so I agreed only if she let me take pictures of her. We spent 3 hours total including drinks. Didn't mind ponying up, especially since the longer initial interaction helped escalate our second date.

[QUOTE=KnoxTNman;3136057]How many of you are paying for just a meet and greet? Some of the girls I talked to are expecting anywhere between $100-$200 to meet and say hello. This sounds more like a scam than a legit reason to discuss arrangement.[/QUOTE]I paid for a Meet and Greet my first time ever as a NEWB. She did travel from East Tennessee and it was only $50. And I was an idiot. Since then I have never paid for a M&G.

Obviously, you should pay for coffee / lunch or dinner but that's it. I don't give them money until we are intimate.

Your time is worth more than theirs is. You don't get paid to go to a job interview. Some of these women have GPS.

[QUOTE=KnoxTNman;3136057]How many of you are paying for just a meet and greet? Some of the girls I talked to are expecting anywhere between $100-$200 to meet and say hello. This sounds more like a scam than a legit reason to discuss arrangement.[/QUOTE]Currently I am in an arrangement and quite satisfied. But when I do meet with a Potential SB I always give them money and pay for lunch / dinner or whatever. Its sets the mode and expectations for what the arrangement is. I look at the site more as a way to find an arrangement that is real not for the low cost / UTR provider route. I am always looking for exclusivity and most important discretion. I usually gave $140.00 - $200.00 per meeting until intimacy happens and then it was considered an arrangement to me and it was based on need and agreement. Gets expensive trying to weed through the list. But I have an entire app filled with numbers of girls I have treated right and would be willing and eager to see me if ever I need to.

LNL.

Shouda listened to earlier brother's reviews but those eyes and skin tone clouded the big head. I took the SA avenue to meet. Location in daytime safe apt. complex. M&G in living room got my engine running from her winsome personality and body of a 22 year old, (real age add +++). Once in the bedroom personality and presence dropped to zero. Then there was the smell. Not that smell, LOL. The smell of a mouth that had not seen a toothbrush or floss in ten years. Maybe the tongue piercing gets in the way. Why date a girl you'd rather be three feet away from. Repeat,? Why?

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[QUOTE=LayenLow;3136567]Currently I am in an arrangement and quite satisfied. But when I do meet with a Potential SB I always give them money and pay for lunch / dinner or whatever. Its sets the mode and expectations for what the arrangement is. I look at the site more as a way to find an arrangement that is real not for the low cost / UTR provider route. I am always looking for exclusivity and most important discretion. I usually gave $140.00 - $200.00 per meeting until intimacy happens and then it was considered an arrangement to me and it was based on need and agreement. Gets expensive trying to weed through the list. But I have an entire app filled with numbers of girls I have treated right and would be willing and eager to see me if ever I need to.

LNL.[/QUOTE]Never pay for a m / g. ITs like a job interview and no one gets paid to show up for a job interview. OF course you pay for coffee or something to eat while you talk and if she traveled a few hours to come to you then gas money is appreciated.

Now we can discuss the meaning of a sb all day but in mine she doesn't hold a m / g in her living room. This to me sounds CL, utr, sex worker or used to be sex worker. NOw being exclusive is great but unless your providing a good chunk of change monthly it usually doesn't happen. Exceptions do happen. NOw why one would provide money with no action is a headscratcher. If your just dating then whatever is done during your outing is fine. GIving money to show up and be there is just paying for the arm candy / companionship experience. Now alot of guys pay for that and that's fine if that's what your looking for. Just don't get the idea that the girls are there because your a swell guy. They are getting paid. DON'T pay or gift them and see how many times they show up. AGain always exception s and if your dropping lots to feed them they will show for a good meal.

Lots of college girls flirt with college guys to get a meal. Had several girls tell me they do this when funds are low.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3138957]Never pay for a m / g. ITs like a job interview and no one gets paid to show up for a job interview. OF course you pay for coffee or something to eat while you talk and if she traveled a few hours to come to you then gas money is appreciated.
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Lots of college girls flirt with college guys to get a meal. Had several girls tell me they do this when funds are low.[/QUOTE]Nicely articulated. ,. , providing a bit of sugar to account for any incidentals she had while making it to the meeting plus the cost of the meal / entertainment seems fair. The job interview example seemsappropriate. I couldn't imagine shelling out an amount for a meet and greet commensurate with the cost of an actual physical encounter since 1) it doesn't make sense to give them shyt for nothing and 2) there are way too many options available. The illusion of exclusivity and thinking that just because you shelled out money for nothing gets one in the front of some fictitious queue is laughable. The exact opposite is the case, the girls usually view guys who provide money for a meeting as vapid and respect the guys who hold firm on not providing funds for nothing. You earn your keep and they understand that concept otherwise a GPS mentality settles in with them. Perhaps that's why some quote a price for meet and greet since they've been provided funds for that before. Whatever strategy works for you or you're comfortable with is the one with which you should roll. If you meet with 5 ladies in a week, that's 750 - 1000 dollars in charity just for sitting down to say "Hey, how are you?" Some dude is getting it for free and the gals jumping on SA when the funds are low sounds extremely reasonable. ,. , they'd hit the jackpot by meeting with a bloke that forks over 2 benji's for a mere high five. Whatever works man.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

I'm going to be in the Knoxville area for ten days starting next week. Anyone have any Sbs that they could recommend? If so please send me a PM.

MilfMan,

I always appreciate your incite and reviews your an asset to this community and just because we use different tactics It sounds like we are both getting what we want from the site. For me I started on the site a few years ago looking for something deeper than Pay for Play unfortunately most of what I found on the site was Pay for play options. It was fun but not just what I was looking for. I mean for half of the headache we have wonderful local providers to see for that. So I changed some things in my profile and really screened for that.

For me I look at the communication on the site and the texting before the first meet as the "Job Interview" which if they ask for money during that time it's a no go. I look at the first meet and greet as the first day of the Job. So of course I give them money for that. And if the first day doesn't work out I have their number and we part friends. They all appreciate it and it certainly does helps if I ever have the need to call them back to set something else up and I get a friendly "how ya been doing lately" text quite often from these girls. While I don't have unlimited funds a few K isn't going to hurt me if I find what I want (which I did) Again I think we are talking to completely different girls from the site but to each his own.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3138957]Again I think we are talking to completely different girls from the site but to each his own.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Definitely the beauty of YMMV and finding what you seek in a large pond. Plenty of fish for everyone to find the ladies and the situations that work. Your experiences and insights are always appreciated and I hope that you continue to reap the benefits of SA.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.

[QUOTE=LayenLow;3141265]MilfMan,

I always appreciate your incite and reviews your an asset to this community and just because we use different tactics It sounds like we are both getting what we want from the site. For me I started on the site a few years ago looking for something deeper than Pay for Play unfortunately most of what I found on the site was Pay for play options. It was fun but not just what I was looking for. I mean for half of the headache we have wonderful local providers to see for that. So I changed some things in my profile and really screened for that.

For me I look at the communication on the site and the texting before the first meet as the "Job Interview" which if they ask for money during that time it's a no go. I look at the first meet and greet as the first day of the Job. So of course I give them money for that. And if the first day doesn't work out I have their number and we part friends. They all appreciate it and it certainly does helps if I ever have the need to call them back to set something else up and I get a friendly "how ya been doing lately" text quite often from these girls. While I don't have unlimited funds a few K isn't going to hurt me if I find what I want (which I did) Again I think we are talking to completely different girls from the site but to each his own.[/QUOTE]The biggest problem I run into with these girls who want money to meet is when someone before has given it to them. It doesn't cause a problem for the guy giving them money. It causes a problem for every guy that comes after them. Eventually, if enough guys give in and pay it, that will become the standard. I am glad that, so far anyway, most guys resist that type of payment. I've said this before but it's true, if you can get $200 to meet someone for lunch, why would you ever do anything else? That's a $1000 a week and no weekends! I'd love that job! To me, I don't even see it from the point of view as whether or not the monger can afford it or not. I see is as a slight to the monger community at large because that is who will eventually have to pay the fee just to meet. All due respect to layenlow, but I am certain if you go for the young, hot ones on sa, that we play on the same playground quite a bit. I have no trouble pulling out an old number and giving a gal from a previous meeting a call. They are almost always receptive to having business. That's because, in the end, it is pay for play. That is the one thread that runs through all of these categories. You no pay, you no play. You pay, you play. You pay extra, why?

[QUOTE=LayenLow;3141265]MilfMan,

I always appreciate your incite and reviews your an asset to this community and just because we use different tactics It sounds like we are both getting what we want from the site. For me I started on the site a few years ago looking for something deeper than Pay for Play unfortunately most of what I found on the site was Pay for play options. It was fun but not just what I was looking for. I mean for half of the headache we have wonderful local providers to see for that. So I changed some things in my profile and really screened for that.

For me I look at the communication on the site and the texting before the first meet as the "Job Interview" which if they ask for money during that time it's a no go. I look at the first meet and greet as the first day of the Job. So of course I give them money for that. And if the first day doesn't work out I have their number and we part friends. They all appreciate it and it certainly does helps if I ever have the need to call them back to set something else up and I get a friendly "how ya been doing lately" text quite often from these girls. While I don't have unlimited funds a few K isn't going to hurt me if I find what I want (which I did) Again I think we are talking to completely different girls from the site but to each his own.[/QUOTE]To each their own and what works for them.

Just curious as to what you give for the first day of work (m / g). I don't talk money till after or the tail end of the m / g if things go well. Then if everything is worked out we go straight the fc or schedule one.

If you pay for first day on job and they decide they don't want to work for ya how is that determined? Is it the same amount as if they decide to continue employment? When is the pay scale actually discussed or do you say the job pays this and there is no negotiations? I have found that if everything is ironed out before the actual fc that leads to a much more relaxed session. They aren't worried as to what the guy is going to pay ir if he is paying. Lots of girls are ripped off or payed very little for a days work.

Just to clarify, because like everyone I am interested in how everyone else works. My profile is very clear that I want an ongoing arrangement with one SB and that I am absolutely not interested in pay for play. (I have done that but it wasn't really what I wanted.) I am "happily" married (just need to subsidize my sex intake and I love helping people) so discretion and a connection to me is more important than sex. When setting up the M&G I let them know I am happy to pay for lunch / coffee and willing to help them (never mention any amount) we meet and talk and I have the money available. At the M&G I see what their life is like, what social media they are on (most of which I have already figured out), if they have a boyfriend (which is a deal breaker for me), how their friends would describe them, What their future plans are, if they have any experience in these type relationships, if a physical arrangement interest them, and how much money would help them make their life easier. I do make it clear I am not into supporting them but happy to help subsidize their lifestyle (ya know small talk). Part of the excitement for me is the M&G I love to meet new people. After the M&G we say goodbye and I hand them money folded in their hand. They have no idea how much is there and it was never discussed. Most of the time if I give $140.00 It's enough to make a great impression but not so much it breaks me or makes them think I am made of money (I mean if that's what they needed for weekly allowance I would be happy) I always get a text thanking me and telling me its too much. One gal that drove me crazy because she talked non-stop, I had to pick her up at her house got $40.00 and a coffee and I knew I didn't want to see her again. There have been a couple that they stopped communicating with me after the M&G because I guess there just wasn't a connection and plenty that I told I wasn't interested or that I would have to get back to them because all the sudden "I am too busy at work". If I was really interested and thought they were SB material I would give them $200.00 for the M&G and those are the ones I would concentrate on. My current SB is in her late 20's has a great job and just was tired of dating guys her age (I am in my early 40's) she wants someone to spoil her, treat her like a princess and take charge of doing things. I don't know for certainty that she is not seeing anyone else (The only stipulation is that she respect our relationship) but all I need is the illusion of passion and exclusiveness which she certainly provides. I had one relationship like this a few year back from someone I met in real life and it lasted a few years until she left the state and had one about a year and a half ago from the site that lasted 6 months. I would never mess up the lake for all the other fisherman with throwing too much chum in the water and making the fish fat and not interested in other bait but I don't mind throwing in an expensive lure specifically designed to catch the type of fish I want.

Good luck to all the fisherman.

LNL.

[QUOTE=LayenLow;3142460]Just to clarify, because like everyone I am interested in how everyone else works. ...

Good luck to all the fisherman.

LNL.[/QUOTE]Outstanding explanation and, in my opinion, process, especially for the girl / arrangement / relationship you appear to seek.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3141476]To each their own and what works for them.

Just curious as to what you give for the first day of work (m / g). I don't talk money till after or the tail end of the m / g if things go well. Then if everything is worked out we go straight the fc or schedule one.

If you pay for first day on job and they decide they don't want to work for ya how is that determined? Is it the same amount as if they decide to continue employment? When is the pay scale actually discussed or do you say the job pays this and there is no negotiations? I have found that if everything is ironed out before the actual fc that leads to a much more relaxed session. They aren't worried as to what the guy is going to pay ir if he is paying. Lots of girls are ripped off or payed very little for a days work.[/QUOTE]Here's someone else's two cents.

I have sometimes given sugar at M&G but on my initiative, not her request. Most often it has been spontaneous, but I have also wooed POTs w / the promise of sugar at the M&G. Why? B / c they were bloody hot! (and no ambiguity. You could sometimes track them down from other photos you find out there b / c they really were / are models). I hear from Hollywood Guy that here in southern California, girls like that are being offered thousands and more just to meet in their first week on SA. Now I can't do that, but that is the competitive landscape. I think the SDs who are debating here about whether to or not don't aspire to those types of girls. So, I don't think I am driving up prices for the rest of you. I can't likely meet one of those baby's expectations for a LTR (though you never know, sometimes they do just end up liking me), but for me the once-in-a-lifetime, drive a Ferrari aspect could be worth it if I get a model to the FC. If a girl was just average and demanded sugar to meet, I'd just skip it.

Knoxgirl77 called me, looking for help. Calendar says full moon coming up soon, and you know that stirs up the ethers. She always flaked on me. Anyone seen her lately? Has she become more grounded?? Thanks Bob.