Going to hit up 440 today for the first time. What's the going rate?
Any recent recommendations?
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Going to hit up 440 today for the first time. What's the going rate?
Any recent recommendations?
[QUOTE=Kevin80;5359406]Others have mentioned it, house fee is $35. Manager is a nice lady, no way she's ripping you for $60.[/QUOTE]By all means I didn't mean to say she was ripping me I think it was my own miscalculation. I gave the MMS $100 bill and the masseuse brought in the change she left it on the table and I didn't even count it or touch it again. I think I just had a brain fart in thinking it was. 60 for the hr and that there was. 40 change so when the session was over I told the masseuse to keep it. Whatever at the end of the day that was my bad for having too much on my mind and not checking carefully.
[QUOTE=HeadorTail;5359560]Not to beat a dead horse here but your comment about mental health break and strengthening your relationship made me smile. I wonder how much stronger you relationship would be if you found out she was taking mental health breaks with the gardener. LOL.
Sorry man, couldn't help myself.[/QUOTE]It's a complicated thing. I work around cute young girls all day long and it probably wouldn't take much to get some alone time with one of them and screw her brains out, but I would never in a million years do that. It's good fantasy material though. Being able to have a little bit of fun with somebody I don't know anything about, have zero attachment to, and will likely never see again once I walk out of the session (there are exceptions of course, but for the most part I don't do repeats) kind of helps hold it together. I know it's all kind of shitty when you think of the other half of the relationship, and in all honesty I don't foresee myself hobbying much longer. The other married hobbyists on here (I know there are plenty of them) can probably relate. It's not something you can easily explain and really can't justify it other than in your own mind.
My wife has HSDD. I'm 27 and I've been married for 7 years. Doctors say she has HSDD as a side effect to tell loss of our unborn child years ago. We are still active but not like before. She's told me she's ok if I go outside and get what I need out the house since she can't always give it to me. She doesn't know I occasionally go and get a HJ here and there but this is the reason why I go out. Maybe she knows but is ok with it. As long as there's no emotional attachment she's fine with it.
[QUOTE=WoodYee;5359943]By all means I didn't mean to say she was ripping me I think it was my own miscalculation. I gave the MMS $100 bill and the masseuse brought in the change she left it on the table and I didn't even count it or touch it again. I think I just had a brain fart in thinking it was. 60 for the hr and that there was. 40 change so when the session was over I told the masseuse to keep it. Whatever at the end of the day that was my bad for having too much on my mind and not checking carefully.[/QUOTE]Then you tipped $65. Hmm Mindy always gives me change right then and there. She gets it from her purse. No actual record for tax purposes.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;5359173]And yeah it bothers me, but I just remind myself this is strictly business and there's no emotional attachment whatsoever. I don't now anything about any provider, rarely see any provider more than once for fear out of getting hooked, and when I do start feeling the need to see any given provider I start looking for another one for that reason. I also don't do this often a d generally go for HJ only places with an occasional BJ. I know that doesn't justify it. I'd be in deep shit if she ever found out. But as I mentioned I also feel like it keeps me mentally healthy, as well as keeps my real relationship healthy.[/QUOTE]Two thoughts: first, where do you go for BJ? I only have gotten HJs before, BJs have never been offered to me. Second, if you are getting BJs, there is some risk of contracting an STI, which you could pass on to your partner. That would be quite a way for her to find out about your extracurricular activities. Something to keep in mind.
[QUOTE=MikeSanchez;5358094]I use to see Michelle 2 to 3 times a month. Last I saw her she was preparing to graduate from college and improve her life. She is very intelligent and has awesome goals to achieve. Good luck to her.[/QUOTE]All the best to her if that's the case. Damn, she was my ATF, too. It was always a fun time with her even outside of the nuru. The idea of having to find another provider who's as good as her is going to be rough.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;5360311]Two thoughts: first, where do you go for BJ? I only have gotten HJs before, BJs have never been offered to me. Second, if you are getting BJs, there is some risk of contracting an STI, which you could pass on to your partner. That would be quite a way for her to find out about your extracurricular activities. Something to keep in mind.[/QUOTE]Would be kind of hard to get an STI if you wear a condom for a BJ.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;5360311]Two thoughts: first, where do you go for BJ? I only have gotten HJs before, BJs have never been offered to me. Second, if you are getting BJs, there is some risk of contracting an STI, which you could pass on to your partner. That would be quite a way for her to find out about your extracurricular activities. Something to keep in mind.[/QUOTE]What a buzz kill. LOL.
[QUOTE=Bboc68;5358632]I've been out of the game for almost 2 years. I am single again so I decided to go back to my old haunt of F&C. I called ahead to request my old Fav and they said no problem. But when I arrived and asked for her they said she's not here. Then told me to go with another lady. While I was waiting in the room, a woman came in and said sorry. The lady you want will be here in 10 minutes, you wait for her. I said Ok. Then 10 min later Lucy came in and told the other lady is not coming. And I should go with her to her room. So I did.
I was super horny, so as soon as she came in we started making out. She looked at my cock and said ohhhh wow. Big smile. Then went to town with a BBBJ. Then I got her panties off and her top down and started sucking on her bolt ons. She climbed up on the table and spread for some DATY. She was dripping wet and took me for BBFS. We went at at it for about 30 min until I exploded a massive load into her dripping pussy. After we both cleaned up she finished with a decent massage. She said she needs to be my new GF LOL. . 4 at the door and. 8 tip.[/QUOTE]It's like that Dr. Dre song. Been out of the game for 2 years now ever since the honeys were wearing Sassoons. California.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;5360311]Two thoughts: first, where do you go for BJ? I only have gotten HJs before, BJs have never been offered to me. Second, if you are getting BJs, there is some risk of contracting an STI, which you could pass on to your partner. That would be quite a way for her to find out about your extracurricular activities. Something to keep in mind.[/QUOTE]Actually I really don't get BJ anymore, or at least I don't seek it. I shoot mostly for HJ, with my holy grail being a nude massage from an attractive provider with a hand finish. My go to lately has been Havana in Downey, but I'm planning on trying out Trish and Krystal in Orange soon. I've had BJ happen mostly back when I was doing a lot of travel to Asia, and a few times around here, but it just sort of happened. I wasn't really seeking it. Yeah, BJ isn't risk free, but the risk of getting something is pretty small, and if it's CBJ it's almost zero (and I've had very few non-covered BJ in my life). If I was running around getting BBBJ every week or even every couple weeks Id be worried, but in the past 5 years Ive had maybe 3. I'm selective about what MPs I go to as well because as I've posted before, the vast majority of AMPs don't change their sheets after each client, which is nasty. More likely than not, if youre laying on a table at an AMP youre laying on some other guys cum stain. I try to stick to independents now that are more off the radar and don't see more than a few clients a day.
You can get a BJ at nearly any AMP with the right tip if you want one. I do agree that getting BBBJ, or at least frequently getting BBBJ, while in a committed relationship probably isn't advisable for the reason you pointed out. I also don't really want to be DFKing a girl who has had 10 different guys jizz in her mouth that day. So yeah, it's not the norm here but I tend to prefer a. Ice massage with a hand finish for all of these reasons. And I'm pretty much over the AMP scene. I'd rather do it less often and go out of my way and spend more for a nicer provider.
[QUOTE=BoiProdigy;5358910]Has anyone been here?[/QUOTE]It's been several years but last I heard it's the same operation: Nice, kind, MILF to gilf asian (Chinese) massage with HE. Nothing more. No doubt the price / tip expectations are higher than the 40/40 of years past.
[QUOTE=Rexlo;5344798]Hey guys first time contributor but I've been lurking the forum for awhile so hope my first post helps out. I recently visited FnC this past week after doing some research on here, I'm very in to the whole MILF / Gilf type of scean I know it's a old reviewed spot but just wanted to contribute my experience. I got there at decent time around 12 I'd say got Lucy or so she says is her name. Short women with hard bolt ons and crazy frizzy hair. She led me to the room and started me off with a mediocre massage. Now on the flip is where it got interesting, she started off blowing bb and she was nasty I'm talking slobbing all over it she was very generous to the family jewels as well. She started licking my taint which was kinda weird so I had none of that when it came to the real action Wow she's a freak. Pounded her missionary for a while then doggy. I had read she does backdoor action which she did to my surprise she's fairly tight, manage to get msog which was great. I'll definitely be back I've seen Anna reviewed on here so might have to give her a go. I also visited a place in the Sgv which I will most likely post soon, hope my post helps and any feedback would be great.[/QUOTE]Funny how the use of F&C is used. That fish place ain't even called F&C. I park on the Standard side and walk there. Was Lucy wearing a skirt and heels the day you seen her?
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;5360311]Two thoughts: first, where do you go for BJ? I only have gotten HJs before, BJs have never been offered to me. Second, if you are getting BJs, there is some risk of contracting an STI, which you could pass on to your partner. That would be quite a way for her to find out about your extracurricular activities. Something to keep in mind.[/QUOTE]Since we're on the topic, I'm wondering if anyone believes there's any risk of an STI transfer when receiving a HJ. My guess is that it's highly unlikely, and hopefully impossible, but sometimes my imagination gets the better of me and I worry. Any thoughts?
[QUOTE=Smitty88;5362608]Since we're on the topic, I'm wondering if anyone believes there's any risk of an STI transfer when receiving a HJ. My guess is that it's highly unlikely, and hopefully impossible, but sometimes my imagination gets the better of me and I worry. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]The CDC and Google can answer this question. Doesn't matter what "anyone believes", since this is a medicine question.
[QUOTE=Smitty88;5362608]Since we're on the topic, I'm wondering if anyone believes there's any risk of an STI transfer when receiving a HJ. My guess is that it's highly unlikely, and hopefully impossible, but sometimes my imagination gets the better of me and I worry. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]Only way it'll transfer is thru fluid exchange. You'll be fine if its lube but she spits on it, diff story.
[QUOTE=Smitty88;5362608]Since we're on the topic, I'm wondering if anyone believes there's any risk of an STI transfer when receiving a HJ. My guess is that it's highly unlikely, and hopefully impossible, but sometimes my imagination gets the better of me and I worry. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]I got Molluscum contagiosum from a nuru with HJ and passed it to my wife. Shit was not fun.
[QUOTE=SaltyDog;5362518]Funny how the use of F&C is used. That fish place ain't even called F&C. I park on the Standard side and walk there. Was Lucy wearing a skirt and heels the day you seen her?[/QUOTE]If I remember, I was the first to coin the phrase "Fish & Chips" back in the day. It has since been abbreviated to F&C. The fish place had changed hands. It used to be H. Salt, Fish and Chips which is part of a chain.
I went by there recently to see what happened to the place. The place has changed management 2-3 times but to my surprise, Lucy was still there. I preferred Anna but she is long gone. Lucy actually recognized me. It never ceases to amaze me the memories these women have. She remembered everything that I had told her probably 3 years ago. She is definitely over 60 but she works very hard at BBBJ and BBFS. I used to tip 40 so I gave her that first. She did not complain but did not look happy so I gave her another 20 for good measure. I believe any more than that and you are spoiling the market for others.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;5356957]Question for you guys. I have a gf in her 20's who is HOT. We have great sexual chemistry and she does pretty much anything I ask. Nevertheless, here I am on this forum. Curious if anyone else is in the same position. If so, why do you monger?[/QUOTE]It would not be possible to do as many women as I want if I did not monger. I have always been happily married my entire adult life but still monger all the time.
Can you update us? Dark? The prices are set by front desk? Indicated. IMHO.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand;5363403]If I remember, I was the first to coin the phrase "Fish & Chips" back in the day. It has since been abbreviated to F&C. The fish place had changed hands. It used to be H. Salt, Fish and Chips which is part of a chain.
I went by there recently to see what happened to the place. The place has changed management 2-3 times but to my surprise, Lucy was still there. I preferred Anna but she is long gone. Lucy actually recognized me. It never ceases to amaze me the memories these women have. She remembered everything that I had told her probably 3 years ago. She is definitely over 60 but she works very hard at BBBJ and BBFS. I used to tip 40 so I gave her that first. She did not complain but did not look happy so I gave her another 20 for good measure. I believe any more than that and you are spoiling the market for others.[/QUOTE]
I saw a few bad reviews for the Palms when it opened and I thought I'd chime in. It's the same owner as Havana in Downey. I've been to Havana quite a few times and wanted to check this new place out. I booked an appt with Melody. The picture is fairly close. She's a 20 something Americanized Asian girl with darker skin and no accent. She didn't have quite the girl next door look that the girl in the picture has and she had some tattoos but she was still very pretty and easy to talk to. She did a little bit of legit massage that was ok. Then the nuru started and she did some sliding on my back. I turned over and she slid her chest against mine and her pussy on my leg. Gave a great HJ with some dirty talking and mutual touching. I overall enjoyed my time with her a lot. I've had great experiences and some subpar ones at Havana and I'm sure this place will be no different. Just have to find the right girl for you so I wouldn't totally write this place off. I'd see Melody again.
I've read several comments that explain / justify why we engage with other woman but are happily married or have a hot gf. Etc. What if your wife, gf, significant other was doing the same. Meeting with young studs or BBCs to get satisfied or wanting a variety. And you found out. Reaction?
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand;5363406]It would not be possible to do as many women as I want if I did not monger. I have always been happily married my entire adult life but still monger all the time.[/QUOTE]
Had a good experience with the massage and ending at cloud 9 in Westminster.
Until. As I was getting dressed the girl neatly re-made the bed with all the towels we used.
I feel fucking gross now. What was I laying in? Was I cleaned up with a clean washcloth at least?
[QUOTE=Dhdjdhf35;5363388]I got Molluscum contagiosum from a nuru with HJ and passed it to my wife. Shit was not fun.[/QUOTE]If you think in probabilities, then it's pretty low. Infection can only happen if there is a breach in the epithelial wall of your penis or urethra. It's not impossible but highly improbable. By the way, most places I've gone to, the women wash their hands incessantly between clients.
[QUOTE=Crujonez;5365154]Had a good experience with the massage and ending at cloud 9 in Westminster.
Until. As I was getting dressed the girl neatly re-made the bed with all the towels we used.
I feel fucking gross now. What was I laying in? Was I cleaned up with a clean washcloth at least?[/QUOTE]But most MPs don't use fresh linens between customers. I've posted about it recently so I won't go into the gory details again. Just suffice to say as a person who owns a legit spa and is very aware of the logistics, keeping up with the laundry would be a near impossibility for most of these places. Chances are very good that any time you visit an MP with any significant amount of traffic you're more than likely not the first guy to lay on those sheets that day. As with everything there are exceptions but this is why I have mostly steered away from MPs.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;5365918]But most MPs don't use fresh linens between customers. I've posted about it recently so I won't go into the gory details again. Just suffice to say as a person who owns a legit spa and is very aware of the logistics, keeping up with the laundry would be a near impossibility for most of these places. Chances are very good that any time you visit an MP with any significant amount of traffic you're more than likely not the first guy to lay on those sheets that day. As with everything there are exceptions but this is why I have mostly steered away from MPs.[/QUOTE]My buddy is part owner of a busy south OC shop and they do 5-6 loads of laundry a day. And they buy new towels every two months or so. I can see why a lot of shops would re use.
If you don't feel like AMP are safe than stay home. Let's get back to the reviews and stories LOL.
P.S. Jackie at VT does bb for 2. Don't judge. It's been a minute.
When I schedule a nuru massage, I make sure I am their 1st customer for the day. Wiping with a rag does not remove everything and many times they are in a hurry between appointments.
[QUOTE=Crujonez;5365154]Had a good experience with the massage and ending at cloud 9 in Westminster.
Until. As I was getting dressed the girl neatly re-made the bed with all the towels we used.
I feel fucking gross now. What was I laying in? Was I cleaned up with a clean washcloth at least?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlaBla;5366025]My buddy is part owner of a busy south OC shop and they do 5-6 loads of laundry a day. And they buy new towels every two months or so. I can see why a lot of shops would re use.[/QUOTE]At my spa the washer and dryer run nonstop from the time my staff arrived at 8:30 until 9 pm when we close. Probably 8-9 loads a day. And that's just towels. We get our sheets from linen service which is a big ass truck showing up twice a week to do the exchange. We average about 40 customers a day which probably isn't much different than a lot of AMPs. Granted we're using 3 sheets per customer right now because of Covid protocol (bottom sheet and two top sheets because we're not allowed to use blankets). AMPs obvious don't worry about covering. But still it's a hell of a lot of laundry. You can only get 5 or 6 sheets in a load. Bottom line there's no way an AMP can possibly provide clean stuff for every customer and keep up with it. They'd need to have 2 washers and dryers and a full time person attending to it. And yeah, towels don't last longer when they get washed a couple times a day.
[QUOTE=Crujonez;5365154]Had a good experience with the massage and ending at cloud 9 in Westminster.
Until. As I was getting dressed the girl neatly re-made the bed with all the towels we used.
I feel fucking gross now. What was I laying in? Was I cleaned up with a clean washcloth at least?[/QUOTE]This happens at most shops. Even the FS shops. Actually, most FS customers shoot their loads to the bag. Are&T places usually jerk uncovered. Some of us shoot ropes, sending jism all over the table. I always hit the shops early in the morning in order to get clean unused linens. If the table coverings don't smell "just laundered", I give some reason why I need things changed. They happily do so.
[QUOTE=Mhsm2014;5363661]I saw a few bad reviews for the Palms when it opened and I thought I'd chime in. It's the same owner as Havana in Downey. I've been to Havana quite a few times and wanted to check this new place out. I booked an appt with Melody. The picture is fairly close. She's a 20 something Americanized Asian girl with darker skin and no accent. She didn't have quite the girl next door look that the girl in the picture has and she had some tattoos but she was still very pretty and easy to talk to. She did a little bit of legit massage that was ok. Then the nuru started and she did some sliding on my back. I turned over and she slid her chest against mine and her pussy on my leg. Gave a great HJ with some dirty talking and mutual touching. I overall enjoyed my time with her a lot. I've had great experiences and some subpar ones at Havana and I'm sure this place will be no different. Just have to find the right girl for you so I wouldn't totally write this place off. I'd see Melody again.[/QUOTE]Melanie (Havana) and Melody (palms) is same provider.
I wish I would have checked this forum before I dropped my cash. I saw their ad on Bedpage, it was nearby, so I thought I'd give them a shot.
I mean, how could Nuru ever be unsexy? It was this last weekend. I got "Glinda" or something like that. I paid for nuru, and all she would say was "Asian style body rub. ".
She was 40 pounds overweight, and a Latina, I think. She said she was from here, but didn't seem to understand English.
Started on the back, no teasing. Rubbed her boobs on me from the side of the table. On the flip, she stood as far away as possible from me, while still being able to stroke my dick.
One of the worst experiences ever.
P.S. When I pulled up to that business, I remember once many years ago, there as a FS business operating out of there. And I had a DDG Korean girl. Unbelievably beautiful. And this is where we are now.
[QUOTE=Crujonez;5365154]As I was getting dressed the girl neatly re-made the bed with all the towels we used.
I feel fucking gross now. What was I laying in? Was I cleaned up with a clean washcloth at least?[/QUOTE]Had a similar experience, and it was at Pure Relaxation incidentally. My sheet had oil all over it and I didn't realize until I had laid down. The girl seemed surprised as well, then pulled out a clean sheet and put it over the old one. It was too late of course and I felt so fucking disgusted. That was my last time at a massage parlor.
Problem with these nuru places is that a lot of the workers are overweight.
Add 20-30 lbs to their instagram lineup pics. If the girl looks thick on the picture she's most likely obese.
[QUOTE=DJones;5366243]I wish I would have checked this forum before I dropped my cash. I saw their ad on Bedpage, it was nearby, so I thought I'd give them a shot.
I mean, how could Nuru ever be unsexy? It was this last weekend. I got "Glinda" or something like that. I paid for nuru, and all she would say was "Asian style body rub. ".
She was 40 pounds overweight, and a Latina, I think. She said she was from here, but didn't seem to understand English.
Started on the back, no teasing. Rubbed her boobs on me from the side of the table. On the flip, she stood as far away as possible from me, while still being able to stroke my dick.
One of the worst experiences ever.
P.S. When I pulled up to that business, I remember once many years ago, there as a FS business operating out of there. And I had a DDG Korean girl. Unbelievably beautiful. And this is where we are now.[/QUOTE]
Did you guys see Jennifer at Stanton recently?
I saw her last week, same massage quality, but she doesn't do the hot stones and other good stuff anymore.
HJ was decent she uses lube now instead of the oil, which is nice.
She used to show her titties before, now it's restricted. Anyone got an update on that one?
Even if you're the first customer of the day at the AMPs, there's a decent chance they just left the sheets from the day before.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;5365918]But most MPs don't use fresh linens between customers. I've posted about it recently so I won't go into the gory details again. Just suffice to say as a person who owns a legit spa and is very aware of the logistics, keeping up with the laundry would be a near impossibility for most of these places. Chances are very good that any time you visit an MP with any significant amount of traffic you're more than likely not the first guy to lay on those sheets that day. As with everything there are exceptions but this is why I have mostly steered away from MPs.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=July1714;5366029]If you don't feel like AMP are safe than stay home. Let's get back to the reviews and stories LOL.
P.S. Jackie at VT does bb for 2. Don't judge. It's been a minute.[/QUOTE]Just checking. Is This VT Spa on Springdale in Westminster? Thanks.
Slammer6008,
You know you approve of her LOL for the guy that had a bar experience at pure. Jackie from VT also goes here.
[QUOTE=July1714;5367660]Slammer6008,
You know you approve of her LOL for the guy that had a bar experience at pure. Jackie from VT also goes here.[/QUOTE]Yeah I let the slammer out a few time's on her. One time I agreed on her price and I said OK but your really going to get fucked good. So the next time I seen her I get a discounted rate. LOL.