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[QUOTE=FreakANeek;3003665]Come on guys, that's pornstar Dillon Harper. I don't know about you guys but I never, ever, ever, even consider girls with fake pics. I'm not even a BP guy, I only use agencies but I figured I'd come in here and see what you all are always talking about haha! Anyhow, happy mongerimg and I would avoid that girl like the fucking plague.[/QUOTE]You are looking at the banner ad and not the ad itself.
[QUOTE=BlindSandal;3004006]Guys,
Just showing up in a room with a lady from BP almost makes a case for Assignation. If you get to a room and there is lady with out any reviews (or she had reviews but doesn't look like her photos) across from you dressed in street clothes or just minorly sluttishly dressed you should be very careful what you say when she asks you what you want to do. Say anything sexual and you are guilty. Don't let the little man get you locked up. You have damn good idea how ladies look and act. When you get in a room with a lady who doesn't fit the mold you need to drop back 15 and punt. Try to excuse yourself and leave. While you may get arrested what you say is going to have a serious bearing on whether you are convicted.
John Law has no problem locking you up on a charge they know you can beat because a lawyer may cost you some serious cash and the arrest may cost you your fucked up marriage.
Both John Law and you know why you were there. Don't ever talk to the John Law. What you saw will be used against you. STFU.
BS.[/QUOTE]What if you're meeting a girl for a massage? It seems to me that meeting under that pretense would be safe, as long as you don't discuss any sexual activities over text. I can't imagine the police going to the effort of setting up a sting and using a body rub ad.
[QUOTE=Ghoul;3004183]What if you're meeting a girl for a massage? It seems to me that meeting under that pretense would be safe, as long as you don't discuss any sexual activities over text. I can't imagine the police going to the effort of setting up a sting and using a body rub ad.[/QUOTE]They do use that strategy, and it does work, and they do make arrests with it. Its no safer for you to go in under the "massage" pretense.
BQ22.
[QUOTE=Ghoul;3004183]What if you're meeting a girl for a massage? It seems to me that meeting under that pretense would be safe, as long as you don't discuss any sexual activities over text. I can't imagine the police going to the effort of setting up a sting and using a body rub ad.[/QUOTE]You're making a law school argument. You'll win every time in moot court, but the police will arrest you every time nonetheless. Since they went through all the trouble of staging the sting in order to arrest people, they are GOING to arrest people. They are effectively criminalizing the act of responding to a backpage ad. They'd probably prefer to criminalize the publication of backpage ads, but backpage has a team of lawyers to fight such things in court. You, I assume, do not.
[QUOTE=Barraquda22;3004498]They do use that strategy, and it does work, and they do make arrests with it. Its no safer for you to go in under the "massage" pretense.
BQ22.[/QUOTE]I only answer massage and body rub ads. I don't answer escort ads unless they specify massage. I always ask for massage in telephone calls and text messages. When I get there I make sure I get a crappy massage before anything more fun happens. Although I may touch her leg, I make sure she initiates sexual contact. I never discuss money until she has made substantial sexual contact with me. I don't think ULE is going to play with my unit.
There have been multiple times when I've left after only a massage and $10 tip. Perhaps more bravery on my part would have either gotten me laid or locked up.
I doubt police arrest many people when they answer a massage ad and make no sexual advances. The courts would throw such a case out. Too many such cases and the police would be reprimanded.
[QUOTE=Horsetrader;3004682]I only answer massage and body rub ads. I don't answer escort ads unless they specify massage. I always ask for massage in telephone calls and text messages. When I get there I make sure I get a crappy massage before anything more fun happens. Although I may touch her leg, I make sure she initiates sexual contact. I never discuss money until she has made substantial sexual contact with me. I don't think ULE is going to play with my unit.
There have been multiple times when I've left after only a massage and $10 tip. Perhaps more bravery on my part would have either gotten me laid or locked up.
I doubt police arrest many people when they answer a massage ad and make no sexual advances. The courts would throw such a case out. Too many such cases and the police would be reprimanded.[/QUOTE]Very true when I was a witness in court fro AMP bust. I heard the prosecutor arguing with the undercover dick, who by the way wears two earrings, that she, Prosecutor, did not want to talk to the judge with such salacious details, he kept insisting to her will they where naked, she responded, " there is no law against being naked" These undercover cops, think they are saving the world, and are not looking in the right place for real traffiking in my opinion. Or maybe they are afraid too. Everything was throw out!
I was going to mention that charge but BS beat me to it. Just showing up is Assignation, that is making an arrangement for the deed, a crime itself.
Not much you can do if you get caught with an LEO posing as a provider. You called the number in the ad and showed up; no amount of talking will work at that point and like the posts on dealing with LE all say, your best bet is to STFU. STFU now.
On the bright side, there are a lot of good providers out there and all of the usual cautions and warnings will keep you safe. Find someone well reviewed by trusted reviewers and have some fun.
[QUOTE=BlindSandal;3004006]Guys,
Just showing up in a room with a lady from BP almost makes a case for Assignation. If you get to a room and there is lady with out any reviews (or she had reviews but doesn't look like her photos) across from you dressed in street clothes or just minorly sluttishly dressed you should be very careful what you say when she asks you what you want to do. Say anything sexual and you are guilty. Don't let the little man get you locked up. You have damn good idea how ladies look and act. When you get in a room with a lady who doesn't fit the mold you need to drop back 15 and punt. Try to excuse yourself and leave. While you may get arrested what you say is going to have a serious bearing on whether you are convicted.
John Law has no problem locking you up on a charge they know you can beat because a lawyer may cost you some serious cash and the arrest may cost you your fucked up marriage.
Both John Law and you know why you were there. Don't ever talk to the John Law. What you saw will be used against you. STFU.
BS.[/QUOTE]
Appreciate all of the law opinions but kinda want to get back to business.
Trolling found Violet, her ad [URL]http://adultsearch.com/maryland/baltimore/female-escorts/1055478[/URL].
Wondering if anyone has seen her. PM would be fine too. Thanks.
LTD.
[QUOTE=LoveToDine;3005587]Appreciate all of the law opinions but kinda want to get back to business.
Trolling found Violet, her ad [URL]http://adultsearch.com/maryland/baltimore/female-escorts/1055478[/URL].
Wondering if anyone has seen her. PM would be fine too. Thanks.
LTD.[/QUOTE]The number shows no results but the picture shows multiple uses with different names numbers and regions.
[QUOTE=Ebdawgg;3004826]I was going to mention that charge but BS beat me to it. Just showing up is Assignation, that is making an arrangement for the deed, a crime itself.
Not much you can do if you get caught with an LEO posing as a provider. You called the number in the ad and showed up; no amount of talking will work at that point and like the posts on dealing with LE all say, your best bet is to STFU. STFU now.
On the bright side, there are a lot of good providers out there and all of the usual cautions and warnings will keep you safe. Find someone well reviewed by trusted reviewers and have some fun.[/QUOTE]Since when is a therapeutic massage a crime? If there is zero mention of anything sexual, and I legitimately need a good massage, I don't see the crime for showing up for one.
Guys,
Stiff and I had the pleasure to dream a sweet hh with Mya. Those are indeed her photos. She is clean and I did not smell any smoke. She is sharing a messy room with another lady in pink who can be seen in her Ad. She made the effort to make sure Stiff and the boys had a good time. I found her pleasant and easy to converse with once she got over her initial wariness.
610-422-7396 phone.
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Catch Mya while you can, hanging w Mya sure beats going to church.
BS.
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Any recent intel on this one? Read a few reiews on The othER site but some turned me off from taking the plunge. Feel free to PM experiences.
[QUOTE=DCHung;3005644]The number shows no results but the picture shows multiple uses with different names numbers and regions.[/QUOTE]So a high probability of a scam of some sort. Thanks for the intel.
LTD.
[QUOTE=Horsetrader;3004682]I only answer massage and body rub ads. I don't answer escort ads unless they specify massage. I always ask for massage in telephone calls and text messages. When I get there I make sure I get a crappy massage before anything more fun happens. Although I may touch her leg, I make sure she initiates sexual contact. I never discuss money until she has made substantial sexual contact with me. I don't think ULE is going to play with my unit.
There have been multiple times when I've left after only a massage and $10 tip. Perhaps more bravery on my part would have either gotten me laid or locked up.
I doubt police arrest many people when they answer a massage ad and make no sexual advances. The courts would throw such a case out. Too many such cases and the police would be reprimanded.[/QUOTE]Yeah. I sat in a holding cell with someone else who got pinched in a sting. All he was there for was a massage. I don't remember how his case turned out, but I heard his wife screaming through the phone from 20 feet away when he called her from the holding cell. For a lot of people, it isn't about what you get charged or convicted of, its that you were simply arrested for it that fucks your world. And the po po has plenty of room for you to sit and waste an evening or more of your time in and then they throw the case out. You spend an evening in jail but the waves go way further than that.
BQ22.
[QUOTE=NoNamed;3005664]Since when is a therapeutic massage a crime? If there is zero mention of anything sexual, and I legitimately need a good massage, I don't see the crime for showing up for one.[/QUOTE]That's the whole point. It is NOT a crime, but if it's a police sting, they will arrest and charge you ANYWAY. Then it's up to you and your attorney to either get the charge dismissed or get acquitted at trial. You might well get off, but it can be a long, expensive road, and there's every opportunity for something to go horribly wrong. For example, you might not have said anything incriminating, but the arresting officer might LIE and say that you did. You will be convicted 100% of the time in such case. Even if the officer does not lie, there's a good possibility that the judge will not dismiss the charge despite the lack of evidence. Then you're headed to trial. Do you want a jury trial? That can be very expensive, and there's no guarantee you'll be acquitted. On the other hand, you opt for a bench trial? It can be quicker and cheaper, but judges convict people all the time without sufficient evidence. Once convicted, you're stuck behind the 8-ball trying to get the conviction overturned on appeal -- a long, expensive proposition. In the meantime, your wife (if you have one) might file for divorce and you could lose your job. Even if the charge gets dismissed, you're acquitted, or if your conviction is overturned on appeal, you're stuck for the rest of your life with an arrest record. You'll have to acknowledge and explain it every time you apply for a job or for a government clearance, and it could very well limit your professional prospects. Conviction or no, the damage could be extreme.
Here's an example of why you should take every precaution to avoid any run-ins with the criminal justice system. A professional acquaintance of mine, who was under 30 at the time and who had no prior arrests and a spotless reputation, was once charged with a bogus DUI in New Jersey. He smelled of liquor because someone spilled a drink on him shortly before he decided to drive home, but he had only consumed one beer that evening. He was given a field sobriety test which he said he passed, but the officer arrested and charged him anyway. He was given neither a breathalyzer nor a blood alcohol test, despite him insisting on having one or the other. Being very late at the time of his arrest, he had to spend the night in the drunk tank, and his car was impounded. In the morning, he bonded out. Then he had to pay a towing and impound fee to get his car back. He then got an attorney to represent him, so he wrote a check for a $5,000.00 retainer. At his bench trial, the officer claimed that he failed the field sobriety test, for which there was no dash-cam or other video. The judge then offered my acquaintance an opportunity to change his plea from not guilty to guilty, rather than be convicted, explaining that his sentence would be MUCH more lenient were he to plead guilty and accept responsibility. The judge further explained that he would stand a good chance of having his conviction overturned on appeal, but he would be appealing from a jail cell. My acquaintance's attorney was outraged, but ultimately advised that the best course of action would be to plead guilty. Otherwise, an appeal would entail an additional retainer of $20,000. 00, but there was no absolute guarantee of success. In the end, he took the plea, paid a $1,000.00 fine, and had to complete an AA program. Aside from the $6,000.00 in legal fees and fines, he paid thousands more in higher insurance premiums for years thereafter. He also had to report the incident to his employer, since he did work on classified Government contracts. Though he avoided losing his clearance / job, he has had to periodically revisit his DUI every time he changed jobs or had his clearance up for review over the 25 years since it happened. For those who have anything to lose, an arrest -- even a bogus one -- can cost you dearly.