WTF? Does anybody search for a provider before asking if she's legit or how is she? Just venting, I already know the answer, but some of the biggest offenders are senior members. SMMFH.
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WTF? Does anybody search for a provider before asking if she's legit or how is she? Just venting, I already know the answer, but some of the biggest offenders are senior members. SMMFH.
[QUOTE=Nutmaker;2581506]WTF? Does anybody search for a provider before asking if she's legit or how is she? Just venting, I already know the answer, but some of the biggest offenders are senior members. SMMFH.[/QUOTE]Well the problem is multifold:
1: A lot of the girls change names like pants so often folk recognize them from the picture only.
2: A lot of name repeats that aren't the same girl. How many Yuri, Yuli, Happy, etc have we had.
3: The search functionality sucks big time on here. It's limited to once a minute when you typo, it's hard to narrow down to subforums, the default save preferences don't seem to work (at least for me), and you get connection timeout database errors all the time. Serious if I go immediately to the top right and type "Mindy" (without clicking advanced and I know I have my search preferences set to save Honolulu) I get 151 results as far as way of England.
Really what we need TBH is a thread / subforum called "411" or something where folk can post there "anybody know this girl" so they don't clutter up the standard threads. Well that and fix the search function.
[QUOTE=Nutmaker;2581506]WTF? Does anybody search for a provider before asking if she's legit or how is she? Just venting, I already know the answer, but some of the biggest offenders are senior members. SMMFH.[/QUOTE]I don't think there is anything wrong with a member asking another member how a certain provider looked / serviced / etc. That provider may have been on the scene for only a couple of days or weeks. Yes she may have a couple reviews but that's only a few guys out of the many more that she has seen. Everyone's experience with the same provider isn't going to be the same. With all of the choices we have right now, some mongers use this forum as a tool to decide on who they want to see and who they will pass on. The more information the better imo.
But if they are asking about well reviewed providers who have been around for a while, then I will have to agree with you.
[QUOTE=DeepShot;2579086]Empire was hype. Average looking skinny girls who were passed off as much younger than they were. Good service by most, but had plenty losers too. BBFS was had by many too, which blinded dicks to thinking the girls were pretty, LOL.
Was a nice run. It was good to get BBBJ and some BBFS with younger looking pros. No shortage of better looking pros around today. Have to hunt for the BBFS younger ones, but they are out there.[/QUOTE]LOL. Solid post.
I know I don't post here enough to complain but is the brother talk (ie, brother "john") here creeping anyone else besides me? What is this place now? The order of grand poobahs or something? I can do without the fraternal talk.
[QUOTE=SlideHammer;2581897]LOL. Solid post.
I know I don't post here enough to complain but is the brother talk (ie, brother "john") here creeping anyone else besides me? What is this place now? The order of grand poobahs or something? I can do without the fraternal talk.[/QUOTE]When I first joined, members extended courtesy and respect to one another, occasionally addressing or referring to known trusted members by the title "Brother". Some members were even referred to as "Master".
There was no fight thread nor was there a need. The gentlemen knew how to behave themselves while guests in another man's 'house'.
[QUOTE=HMobius;2582029]When I first joined, members extended courtesy and respect to one another, occasionally addressing or referring to known trusted members by the title "Brother". Some members were even referred to as "Master".
There was no fight thread nor was there a need. The gentlemen knew how to behave themselves while guests in another man's 'house'.[/QUOTE]I wish the "brother" mongers you refer to would show some REAL courtesy and respect by not engaging in high risk behaviors with prostitutes like BBFS, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, etc.
Addressing each other as "brothers" and "masters" is absolutely meaningless and irrelevant. What is REAL respect and courtesy is wrapping yourself up so you protect the health and safety of your "brothers" and "masters". Now, that is real quantifiable and concrete ACTION that you can take to actually SHOW respect, not just TALK about it.
If you are one of the considerate mongers that actually takes steps like using condoms and dams and refusing BB and DFK services, then I salute you. If not, you're just as much of if not MORE of a problem than the so called "disrespectful" mongers you imply are not behaving in another man's "house".
[QUOTE=ClintonPortis;2582115]I wish the "brother" mongers you refer to would show some REAL courtesy and respect by not engaging in high risk behaviors with prostitutes like BBFS, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, etc.
Addressing each other as "brothers" and "masters" is absolutely meaningless and irrelevant. What is REAL respect and courtesy is wrapping yourself up so you protect the health and safety of your "brothers" and "masters". Now, that is real quantifiable and concrete ACTION that you can take to actually SHOW respect, not just TALK about it.
If you are one of the considerate mongers that actually takes steps like using condoms and dams and refusing BB and DFK services, then I salute you. If not, you're just as much of if not MORE of a problem than the so called "disrespectful" mongers you imply are not behaving in another man's "house".[/QUOTE]I squirted some semen into a latex receptacle last night so you should all feel more respected this morning according to this argument. Can you feel it? Can you quantify it?
[QUOTE=ClintonPortis;2582115]I wish the "brother" mongers you refer to would show some REAL courtesy and respect by not engaging in high risk behaviors with prostitutes like BBFS, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, etc.
Addressing each other as "brothers" and "masters" is absolutely meaningless and irrelevant. What is REAL respect and courtesy is wrapping yourself up so you protect the health and safety of your "brothers" and "masters". Now, that is real quantifiable and concrete ACTION that you can take to actually SHOW respect, not just TALK about it.
If you are one of the considerate mongers that actually takes steps like using condoms and dams and refusing BB and DFK services, then I salute you. If not, you're just as much of if not MORE of a problem than the so called "disrespectful" mongers you imply are not behaving in another man's "house".[/QUOTE]This is what I'm talking about.
Aside from BBFS, most reports have the girl giving the other three things in your list, because they are in fact prostitutes.
See the Safe Sex thread for Admin's explanation, it addresses your concerns. It uses the boldface word "You" for things you can do to protect yourself. You cannot control what your favorite girl does for other men.
[QUOTE=DeepShot;2579086]Empire was hype. Average looking skinny girls who were passed off as much younger than they were. Good service by most, but had plenty losers too. BBFS was had by many too, which blinded dicks to thinking the girls were pretty, LOL.
Was a nice run. It was good to get BBBJ and some BBFS with younger looking pros. No shortage of better looking pros around today. Have to hunt for the BBFS younger ones, but they are out there.[/QUOTE]Well, Opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one. Mine differs on this subject. Everytime I ventured from Empire I'd get shit service, when I went back, the girl would fuk me like I was some rockstar and she was a long lost groupie, sucking the moisture from my tounge and fuking me back screaming "fuka me fuka me"! Legs high and deep penetration into a petite body you refer to as skinny, I see as an absence of FAT, which I love, of course to each his own, but lots of others like me loved it too. Now that the "Hype" is gone, I've been to a few providers seeking what I was getting there, and I can't find it and it's pissing me off. I sampled some high praised providers and what do they do? They are older more "Experienced" and they get on my medium sized member and play the ooooh so big got to go slow act. The last 3 visits at various places, and you can read my reviews which have been very vague on purpose, when I flip them to mish they flatten their legs so I can't get penetration and kinda lay there ooh oooh ooh, fucking boring, where as the last 3 I had at the "Hype", they have their little lets up behind their ears bucking me, fucking me back like it's not deep enough even though I'm scratching the back of their uterus! Anyways, this is a rant, I was thinking of the rather shitty service I've been getting since this "Hyped" up place has closed, and it could just be my bad luck, but now I feel better. =).
[QUOTE=ClintonPortis;2582115]I wish the "brother" mongers you refer to would show some REAL courtesy and respect by not engaging in high risk behaviors with prostitutes like BBFS, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, etc.
Addressing each other as "brothers" and "masters" is absolutely meaningless and irrelevant. What is REAL respect and courtesy is wrapping yourself up so you protect the health and safety of your "brothers" and "masters". Now, that is real quantifiable and concrete ACTION that you can take to actually SHOW respect, not just TALK about it.
If you are one of the considerate mongers that actually takes steps like using condoms and dams and refusing BB and DFK services, then I salute you. If not, you're just as much of if not MORE of a problem than the so called "disrespectful" mongers you imply are not behaving in another man's "house".[/QUOTE]Makes a lot of sense and can't argue from a medical perspective. But when did people start trying to shame others into group behavior? Will you attack smokers, recreational drug users, helmets for motorcyclists, fast food eaters / non vegetarians, etc. The list goes on for a mile. What other behaviors by adults do you find unsafe or offensive? I respect that other adults will choose their own lifestyles and accept the consequences, good / bad / indifferent. My eyebrows are raised when someone wants to lay there limits or own level of bullshit on everyone else. If a person can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, right?
[QUOTE=HiPickle;2582511]Well, Opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one. Mine differs on this subject. Everytime I ventured from Empire I'd get shit service, when I went back, the girl would fuk me like I was some rockstar and she was a long lost groupie, sucking the moisture from my tounge and fuking me back screaming "fuka me fuka me"! Legs high and deep penetration into a petite body you refer to as skinny, I see as an absence of FAT, which I love, of course to each his own, but lots of others like me loved it too. Now that the "Hype" is gone, I've been to a few providers seeking what I was getting there, and I can't find it and it's pissing me off. I sampled some high praised providers and what do they do? They are older more "Experienced" and they get on my medium sized member and play the ooooh so big got to go slow act. The last 3 visits at various places, and you can read my reviews which have been very vague on purpose, when I flip them to mish they flatten their legs so I can't get penetration and kinda lay there ooh oooh ooh, fucking boring, where as the last 3 I had at the "Hype", they have their little lets up behind their ears bucking me, fucking me back like it's not deep enough even though I'm scratching the back of their uterus! Anyways, this is a rant, I was thinking of the rather shitty service I've been getting since this "Hyped" up place has closed, and it could just be my bad luck, but now I feel better. =).[/QUOTE]I saw your reviews. You ***** and whine about providers for flattening their legs or putting their hands down there to prevent themselves from suffering more PAIN and potential INJURY. What a fukking douche. The girls are probably hurting from the 10 other ugly ass fat old mongers they just had to service with their undoubtedly bone dry pussy, but they soldier on to do their job and service yet one more ugly old ass monger like you. A regular human being would just take it easy and recognize the fact that the girl is in pain. But NO. Like a little brat throwing a temper tantrum, you come on this forum and ***** and whine about the fact that a girl was in pain and didn't want deep penetration at that moment in time.
[QUOTE=HeineHeine;2582515]Makes a lot of sense and can't argue from a medical perspective. But when did people start trying to shame others into group behavior? Will you attack smokers, recreational drug users, helmets for motorcyclists, fast food eaters / non vegetarians, etc. The list goes on for a mile. What other behaviors by adults do you find unsafe or offensive? I respect that other adults will choose their own lifestyles and accept the consequences, good / bad / indifferent. My eyebrows are raised when someone wants to lay there limits or own level of bullshit on everyone else. If a person can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, right?[/QUOTE]Drunk drivers and smokers who smoke right in front of others get shamed all the time. And rightfully so. I don't give a rats ass what you do to yourself. You want to smoke, drink, do drugs. Fine. Go ahead.
I only care when your actions affect others, including myself and my friends and loved ones. You drink and drive. You GO TO JAIL. You smoke in a non smoking area. You get cited. You peddle drugs to little kids? Toss your ass in jail and throw away the keys.
See the difference?
People who intentionally go bareback with providers who see literally THOUSANDS of dudes are just as dangerous as drunk drivers. I'm not just talking about AIDS. I'm talking about antibiotic resistant gonorrhea, syphillus, hepatitis, and HPV. These can lead to cancer, liver disease, and DEATH.
It's infuriating to see the level of fukktarded ignorance on this forum. No where else on any other forum do we have a more idiotic and ignorant group of mongers than Hawaii. Who actually ***** that providers don't offer BBBJ or BBFS or DATY. It's like a bunch of fukking Neanderthals around here. All these mongers care about is their own selfish and momentary pleasure.
Newsflash, losers: if you want a GFE, get a fukking GIRLFRIEND.
[QUOTE=ClintonPortis;2582780]Drunk drivers and smokers who smoke right in front of others get shamed all the time. And rightfully so. I don't give a rats ass what you do to yourself. You want to smoke, drink, do drugs. Fine. Go ahead.
I only care when your actions affect others, including myself and my friends and loved ones. You drink and drive. You GO TO JAIL. You smoke in a non smoking area. You get cited. You peddle drugs to little kids? Toss your ass in jail and throw away the keys.
See the difference?
People who intentionally go bareback with providers who see literally THOUSANDS of dudes are just as dangerous as drunk drivers. I'm not just talking about AIDS. I'm talking about antibiotic resistant gonorrhea, syphillus, hepatitis, and HPV. These can lead to cancer, liver disease, and DEATH.
It's infuriating to see the level of fukktarded ignorance on this forum. No where else on any other forum do we have a more idiotic and ignorant group of mongers than Hawaii. Who actually ***** that providers don't offer BBBJ or BBFS or DATY. It's like a bunch of fukking Neanderthals around here. All these mongers care about is their own selfish and momentary pleasure.
Newsflash, losers: if you want a GFE, get a fukking GIRLFRIEND.[/QUOTE][BLUE]I've heard this shit before and what none of you tight ass let me tell you what to do guys never understand is this.
Their behavior CAN'T hurt you. It can't hurt you because they are doing you a service. I know you're thinking that because I'm spanking you here that I'm a natural kind of guy and nothing could be further from the truth. I have never, not one fucking time, nailed a commercial sex worker unwrapped and I NEVER will. That's my personal decision, and because I NEVER fuck professional sex workers without a cap I am minimizing, but not eliminating my risk.
However what I also NEVER do, is engage in sexual behavior with commercial chicks that provide raw services. If you had half a fucking brain you would stop talking about this and start taking notes.
As far as talking about it here's the deal. We both agree that having sex with commercial sex workers is nuts. Where we disagree is that we have some kind of right to denigrate other people because of the choices they make. I'm telling you that you're done with that. Unless the guy you're talking about borrowed your dick to fuck some chick you are done commenting on safe or unsafe sex on any thread except the designated safe sex thread.
To the rest of you guys in this with him. THIS is the last word on the subject. Move on to some other stupid shit. Yes I know it's the fight thread but I'm sick of reading it.
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[QUOTE=HeineHeine;2582515]Makes a lot of sense and can't argue from a medical perspective. [/QUOTE]Not to start a safe sex rant here but not really. End of the day the main non-protected problem out there is HPV and probably every monger or provider under the sun has already checked that box (and none of us, including them, are of the vaccination generation on this one). The other two killers, HCV and HIV, the risk really isn't that big. I chat up the Life Foundation folk occasionally and the Hawaii HIV rate outside gay men is pretty low in Hawaii, talking about 700 on the entire island of which the majority are under treatment (I. E. Viral counts low enough to basically be non-transmissible) and they also echo the sex work community is pretty clean or treated; most of the untreated ones are outside the standard sex trade we all know and love (I. E. Most are normal girls in denial that their boyfriend is downlow or non-sex worker drug addicts). Now even if we ignore that here and pretend that all 700 of them are providers (given the business) there has never been a recorded case of HIV transmission via DATY / O even in acute cases where the viral load is through the roof**. As for the other BB "risky" behavior need to remember outside the initial three month acute stage and still untreated you are talking single instance monger rates of like. 03% and. 06% (vaginal / anal respectively) or (worst cases during acute period) . 78% and 1. 5%. Now those are single instance rate risks and you do it enough you might lose that lottery hence I don't BB anal or vaginally very often (I'm not perfect here either) but let's not act like it's a high risk behavior especially herein Hawaii (we aren't talking Pattaya or South Africa here). And if you want to talk HVC ditto never been a single recorded case of it being passed via oral sex period and sexually it's about 0. 01% (yes you need to on average bang about a million HVC infected workers to catch it once. Not sure about you but I don't have that sort of cash flow or time).
My point here is don't be thinking or blaming those bb mongers among us "contributing to the problem" because honestly you are going to have to win the lottery to get HIV here in Hawaii to catch it as heterosexual* monger and you aren't going to get it period if you are bb oral only (receiving BJ or giving daty). Now I'm not saying don't wrap your junk because there are plenty of non-deadly STI's out there, single instance adds up over time and would suck to catch HIV, and that whole infectious disease herd protection thing (I. E. Everybody wrap but me makes it safer for me if I don't) but let's not pretend our bb folk (especially the oral ones) are walking factories of death.
Really the deadliest of the bunch is HPV given ease of transmission and prevalence above age 20 (with Western natives; our eighteen year old Chinese providers probably aren't getting HPV vaccinations but that's just my guess), lack of testing for men (as in they don't even make a test for men, not a single FDA approved test), the overwhelming proof adding up in the past couple years that the vast majority of mouth cancer is HPV caused (and sadly often not diagnosed until late stage). Don't want to catch HPV and never had it, LOL not in our business TBH. Never seen numbers on it but seen a lot of speculation that something approaching near 100% of sex workers and mongers by age fifty have been exposed to (and have the antibodies) for HPV. Maybe in about thirty years HPV will be at HIV transmission rates but has to wait for all us old fucks to die off.
Sex is risky, such is life. Don't like it, do something else.
* Speaking of that (and not my thing either) but just realized I don't think we have a homosexual provider or monger section USA sex guide. I know you got straight mongers out there enjoying the mahu's occasionally (they obviously getting business), straight out homosexual mongers (I. E. Old, ugly, or fat dudes that can't get it for free anymore even among the sexual promiscuous MSM or ones that want young bucks), and ditto homosexual provides but don't really hear reviews of them. They got their own forum somewhere else? Just thought about this as I was writing above as always considered this a monger board and TBH a monger is a monger and provider a provider but this forum pretty straight as far as I remember.
** There is a reason you don't hear much about lesbian (not bi-sexual) HIV rates; it's basically non existent.
Admin / A2:
Hey just seen your post after I posted that other post (spent some time writing it, hadn't refreshed the screen), wasn't trying to break your "cease and desist". Feel free to delete it (and this one) if you feel it does.