Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=BradentonBob;4936370]It starts to raise expectations on the attendants' part, if people are now willing to tip 60 why should I do the same for 40? Then it becomes 80, etc.[/QUOTE]Its a tip and its based on performance not a standard price. Theres times I give $30 for a HE and times I happily give $60. It's no different than a restaurant. If she short times me a lot of time on the massage then the tip goes down. If I get close to the full hour of massage and a stealer performance then I give more. I usually prefer DATY or FS but there's times I'm only looking for a HJ. If someone works hard on a massage and really goes the extra mile for the HJ and spends a lot of time giving it while rubbing all over (When I get a HJ I tell them up front I don't want it quick, I expect nice and slow and a lot of play time) then I will happily give them $60. The next time I go back I know she's going to work hard to make me happy.

I ventured out to a seemingly new location in Lutz yesterday. I was very happy with the attendant, she was smoking hot, exactly my type. She was on the younger side I'd say about 35 at the most and nice and petite with a really hot ass wearing some really tight shorts. I was immediately in heaven.

I paid $70 for an hour and showered first with a lot of help from her for the shower. She jumped in and actually showered with me washing all over my body. She did wear a mask but it didn't take away from the experience and I completely understand the mask.

For the massage I was upfront with her. I read a couple people saying the time was shortened so I mentioned that and asked she give me the full time. She said no problem.

Her massage was pretty good for a smaller women. She seemed to know what she was doing.

On the flip I was pretty much ready to go as I've been excited by her right from the start. No I would normally want to DATY and FS but today that wasn't in the cards for me. I'm having severe allergies right now (being treated by doctor for allergies. I've been tested for covid and DO NOT have covid, it's definitely allergies). I didn't want to freak her out with my allergies and her think its covid so I didn't want to take off my mask and just settled on a HJ. I told her I needed to see her naked and we agreed on $80. She basically striped down for me and allowed me to roam and play which was so enjoyable. I just couldn't help myself she's so damn hot I almost went for giving her a lick but I had to restrain myself. I didn't want to ruin the moment. She did do a good job rubbing all over and playing with my ass a bit while squeezing my balls. I finally couldn't hold out anymore and shot a nice big load all over. I could tell I had her wet as I was rubbing around her sweet little clit. I will definitely be back to taste it as I dreamed about it all night.

Overall for this visit I was very happy and will be seeing her again.

I frequent AMPs but since Covid I have not been venturing out as much. Especially since my favorite place to visit has not reopened Hans. But the other day I was in the mood to get a nice massage so I called crystal and booked an appointment with Joanne. She gave an amazing massage and the flip was worth it. She is a true spinner and an amazing face to match.

Any open MP have BBBJ on menu? PM me. I miss Hans.

[QUOTE=JsTampa;4939636]Its a tip and its based on performance not a standard price. Theres times I give $30 for a HE and times I happily give $60. It's no different than a restaurant. If she short times me a lot of time on the massage then the tip goes down. If I get close to the full hour of massage and a stealer performance then I give more. I usually prefer DATY or FS but there's times I'm only looking for a HJ. If someone works hard on a massage and really goes the extra mile for the HJ and spends a lot of time giving it while rubbing all over (When I get a HJ I tell them up front I don't want it quick, I expect nice and slow and a lot of play time) then I will happily give them $60. The next time I go back I know she's going to work hard to make me happy.[/QUOTE]If you show up and give them 80, and based on that someone else shows up and gives them 80, pretty soon they won't perform for less than 80. In the case of this hobby, it IS different than a restaurant. At Applebees, if table 1 tips 15% and table 2 tips 40%, server's expectations don't start changing to everyone tipping 40%.

[QUOTE=JsTampa;4939667]I ventured out to a seemingly new location in Lutz yesterday. I was very happy with the attendant, she was smoking hot, exactly my type. She was on the younger side I'd say about 35 at the most and nice and petite with a really hot ass wearing some really tight shorts. I was immediately in heaven.

I paid $70 for an hour and showered first with a lot of help from her for the shower. She jumped in and actually showered with me washing all over my body. She did wear a mask but it didn't take away from the experience and I completely understand the mask.

For the massage I was upfront with her. I read a couple people saying the time was shortened so I mentioned that and asked she give me the full time. She said no problem.

Her massage was pretty good for a smaller women. She seemed to know what she was doing.

On the flip I was pretty much ready to go as I've been excited by her right from the start. No I would normally want to DATY and FS but today that wasn't in the cards for me. I'm having severe allergies right now (being treated by doctor for allergies. I've been tested for covid and DO NOT have covid, it's definitely allergies). I didn't want to freak her out with my allergies and her think its covid so I didn't want to take off my mask and just settled on a HJ. I told her I needed to see her naked and we agreed on $80. She basically striped down for me and allowed me to roam and play which was so enjoyable. I just couldn't help myself she's so damn hot I almost went for giving her a lick but I had to restrain myself. I didn't want to ruin the moment. She did do a good job rubbing all over and playing with my ass a bit while squeezing my balls. I finally couldn't hold out anymore and shot a nice big load all over. I could tell I had her wet as I was rubbing around her sweet little clit. I will definitely be back to taste it as I dreamed about it all night.

Overall for this visit I was very happy and will be seeing her again.[/QUOTE]Is that the name simply massage in lutz.

[QUOTE=Tony1949;4940705]Is that the name simply massage in lutz.[/QUOTE]Is that bamboo in lutz please.

[QUOTE=Tony1949;4940705]Is that the name simply massage in lutz.[/QUOTE]Hi any body had any luck with pure massage in Brandon please.

[QUOTE=BradentonBob;4940146]If you show up and give them 80, and based on that someone else shows up and gives them 80, pretty soon they won't perform for less than 80. In the case of this hobby, it IS different than a restaurant. At Applebees, if table 1 tips 15% and table 2 tips 40%, server's expectations don't start changing to everyone tipping 40%.[/QUOTE]Well said. Keep it $40. These girls make $250/300 a day. Don't feel bad for them.

[QUOTE=SlackAction;4941282]Well said. Keep it $40. These girls make $250/300 a day. Don't feel bad for them.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure that the girls make a lot more than $250-300 a day. I'm all about taking care of the girl if it's a good massage and release. I've been in the hobby for about 15 years and the price has always been $40 so quit acting like a bigger tip is going to change things.

[QUOTE=BradentonBob;4940146]If you show up and give them 80, and based on that someone else shows up and gives them 80, pretty soon they won't perform for less than 80. In the case of this hobby, it IS different than a restaurant. At Applebees, if table 1 tips 15% and table 2 tips 40%, server's expectations don't start changing to everyone tipping 40%.[/QUOTE]No, it isn't different from a restaurant. A few guys paying more or even less isn't going to change anything. The price will find an equilibrium based on supply and demand just like any other kind of labor, from ditch-digging to lawyering. Expectations do matter, but they're not as important as supply and demand. If one girl or place starts charging more than the market will bear, other girls and places will undercut them to get their business until the market clears, just as in any other business. Think about it like this. Imagine some of Coco's customers suddenly start paying $80. She didn't ask them to, they just did. You come to see Coco and are surprised to learn she wants $80. You walk out and go to another spa where you find Lulu, who is willing to jerk your junk for $40. More and more men starting going to Lulu and Coco begins to lose her business. (High prices only mean high income if people are willing to pay them.) To try to recapture her business, she lowers her price. Eventually, the price finds a happy medium. This medium occurs at the intersection between the lowest price at which most girls are willing to perform the service and the highest price most johns are willing to pay. This is called the "market-clearing" price.

Spa girls aren't carbon copies of each other. Some are hotter and younger, some are older and uglier. Some are slutty and fun, others are mechanical and standoffish. I'm willing to pay more for a hot, young, sexy, slutty fun girl than I am for an ugly, old, mechanical, standoffish hag. You're not "paying for a handjob" you're "paying for a handjob with a particular spa girl". It's not the same product. If Coco in my example above is much hotter, younger, and more fun than Lulu, she may be able to keep her price higher, because it's not the same product. (And if you think it is, then go see Lulu for the lower price and forget about Coco. You'll be just as happy.) This is why the Han River girls get a lot more money than your average spa girls.

If half the spa girls decide to go back to their home countries but the demand remains the same, the price will rise. Maybe not by double, but it will. If the number of spas girls doubles and demand remains the same, the price will fall, as long as they are willing to work for that price. If it drops to something like $20, I think many will say it's not worth it and quit to go do something else that doesn't involve jacking guys off and the risk of arrest. That will cause the price to rise again.

When it comes to prices and supply and demand, there just isn't anything special about spas. It's the same as any other kind of business. So my recommendation is to stop worrying about it. It's not realistic.

(Yes, I'm a credentialed economist.).

This is a question for the regulars here. I did search the forum and didn't find any relevant info which is why I'm asking. Are there any grooming places in Tampa that will provide a HE? Go for a shave or wax down there and get a HE for a fee?

Sorry if this question is not in the right thread.

Search for "Manscaping" Bill Ho.

[QUOTE=TampaDude250;4942571]This is a question for the regulars here. I did search the forum and didn't find any relevant info which is why I'm asking. Are there any grooming places in Tampa that will provide a HE? Go for a shave or wax down there and get a HE for a fee?

Sorry if this question is not in the right thread.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TampaMonger;4942191](Yes, I'm a credentialed economist.).[/QUOTE]You seem to have skipped over the chapter on collusion. Not all but many of these girls know each other and being women they damn sure talk, and what subject of conversation would be more near and dear to them than talking about the different flavors of kim-chee, is the:. The money they charge. Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=SMegmaMonster;4942795]You seem to have skipped over the chapter on collusion. Not all but many of these girls know each other and being women they damn sure talk, and what subject of conversation would be more near and dear to them than talking about the different flavors of kim-chee, is the:. The money they charge. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]Economics as a science does not apply in this world. Supply / demand does not prevent GPS.

[QUOTE=SMegmaMonster;4942795]You seem to have skipped over the chapter on collusion. Not all but many of these girls know each other and being women they damn sure talk, and what subject of conversation would be more near and dear to them than talking about the different flavors of kim-chee, is the:. The money they charge. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]No, I'm very familiar with collusion, and it's vastly overrated. Collusion requires a lot of organization and discipline. It's easier at the same spa, not so easy across spas in competition. Even at the same spa, tip negotiations happen behind close doors, and the impulse to cheat is strong, especially if the higher price is keeping customers away and reducing overall income. Remember, high prices only lead to high income if the guys are willing to pay them. But there are many who would rather do without the service altogether or would rather cum less frequently. If you do 4 guys a day at $40 a pop, you've made $1,120 in a week. If you double that price for the same service, you might get more like 1 per day, which is only $560 per week. You might argue that doubling the price won't reduce the number of customers that much. We know that isn't true, because otherwise they would do this. Every new customer brings in not only money but risk of arrest, so it's better to have fewer customers than more. The fact that they don't do this shows that the market will not bear the higher price under the current circumstances. Spa prices are a powerful balance between supply, demand, and risk. This is why door fees and service fees don't stray too far out of a standard range, except for premium service like Han River.

A few yahoos paying more aren't going to do squat, otherwise it would already have happened. The only thing that will change the standard price is a fundamental change in supply, demand, and / or risk, just like everything else in economics. Economists get many things wrong. This isn't one of them. The empirical and theoretical evidence for it is enormous and universally accepted except by a few discredited Marxists.

Bottom line: This is not a realistic worry. I'd worry more about a harder line by the cops or about spa girls being deported back to their own countries, changing the supply dynamic. [I]That[/I] would raise prices for sure.