Personally Wouldn't Do It.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...olis/205140470[/URL]
Any post I see with the check marks is already sketch and if its got two different girls in the photo section also. Be smart in whatever you do though.
Whats with the only fans connection and tryst
Seems that almosy all the models on tryst want you to connect thru OF's. Has anyone actually seen a model in person thru OF's?
Prices, Bait and Switch, and Latinas
[QUOTE=GSpotGilligan;7579243]Along with my own experiences, this story, and the one that you just posted is exactly why I've damn near converted mainly to the AMP scene these days. These chicks are becoming more and more insufferable as time goes on with their price increases and the lack of service that goes along with it. Just get out of the game already if it's such a big damn deal for someone to reach around and fondle a big tit. Honestly, what do they even have these big ass tits for in the first place if they just want you to look at them. I've definitely had this shared experience before and it blew my mind and just took the entire session down to a zero for me to where I had to concentrate REALLY hard to just blow my load so I could get out of there and just leave. I definitely miss the good ole days when the girls were hotter, service was better, and prices were a lot cheaper than what they are trying to ask now. Still appreciate all of your updates though JhnSmth..[/QUOTE]Gspot and JhnSmth, I am not sure if this is the correct place for me to post this story and my thoughts, but I am going to post anyways as I believe it adds to your points. Also, on another forum there was talk about low end providers charging unrealistic prices, my post will address that too.
Recently, I traveled to another part of Indiana to visit family. Fortunately, I was able to go alone, so that meant that I got to stop into a Gentleman's Club which I used to frequent quite often back in my college days. Generally, I like to sit and look, but I was open to getting a dance with a girl if she caught my eye. One girl caught my eye and I got a dance with her.
During this dance, she started giving me hints that there were extras. I then asked her, "Hun, I am a Hobbyist, are you saying what I think you are saying?
She replied, "What is a hobbyist?
I then replied, "your question means that you are not in the hobby. " At that point I explained what that meant and it clicked for her.
Now here is the part where I had to do my best not to laugh, she offered me a HJ for $3 on top of the $1 I paid for the 15 minute dance. I did my best to politely smile. Using my phone, I showed her DI's website and how far that $4 can go. I also showed her a few high end traveling providers on Tryst that I have been with who provide for 30 minutes (one of them being one of the most physically beautiful women that I have ever been with). To prove to her that I wasn't full of S* I showed her the phone numbers on Tryst and then had her compare those same phone numbers of the archived text messages with those numbers. Her mouth dropped in shock and she said, "I had no idea that this was a real thing."
My point about sharing that story is that Available Options are what should determine price. For example, I am thinking of planning a weekend to Chicago to go hunting. From what I can tell, Chicago has more legit options and the price is right. With respect to Indy, if a girl is not a high end traveling provider with good reviews, then their prices should actually be in line with what DI is offering.
Now, on to the point about the "baiting and switching" that is common with some of the Latinas I have met. The two times that I did not request a video verification are the two times that I got baited and switched (by the same girl in fact). When meeting anyone for the first time, I do my best to be hyper-vigilant and overly observant. All providers that I have been with, especially the Latinas, all of them have smartphones which have the ability to run Whatsapp, Snapchat, or whatever video calling service will work on that phone. There is absolutely no reason why these girls can't do a quick 15-20 second video call to verify that they are real. For the Columbian Latinas that I have seen on the NW side, video verification is actually a part of their process. And guess what, those lovely ladies match up with their pictures.
All the fake Latina adds also kill the LC site
Like 75% of the posts on there are for the same Latina locations with different fake bait pics. Then add in the other fake whatsapp scammers. And of the ones who might be legit. Most simply aren't attractive. A few of the ones who have been attractive rarely respond it seems.
I had multiple dates with SB's lined up this weekend that flaked. So searched the options but struck out on the sites as well.
A lot of outreach, some sleepyheads, and a grand finish. My Hobby Journey in Indy
For out-of-towners coming to Indy (and intowners if you want), I thought I would share how my hobbying journey went recently. A lot of time spent researching and texting, but for me that's part of the fun too.
The majority of the following happened from around March 18th thru April 5th. I think only a couple times did I text a girl on back to back days. Usually 2-4 days in between. I only point this out so when I say I texted several times, you know it wasn't in a stalker-like fashion.
Chanel.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/indianapolis/female-escorts/playful-companion/499918910032[/URL]
Reached out by text. Asked her how much some of her time was worth and if she had Snapchat (I like to use that as a way to scout when possible). She snapped back a text bitching about me not reading the ad and something about re-reading it in SC that made no sense to me. I have better things to do than pay $ for 50 year old pussy with an attitude. Did not pursue.
B / Boujee.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/indiana/indianapolis/204164299[/URL]
Texted her. Got a reply and with her SC. Got the impression it wasn't her I was texting with. Didn't pursue.
Megan.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/indiana/indianapolis/201436618[/URL]
Really glowing reviews on her. Reached out at 2 AM one night and surprisingly got immediate response. A little rich (180/280/500) for my budget and goals this trip so early in the process. Put her on back burner.
Lily.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/minx[/URL]
Like Megan, gave me a 450/ hr rate, so I put her on back burner too while I explored other options.
Tatum.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/indiana/indianapolis/204460645[/URL]
Reviews said she never disappoints and the thought at least one sure-thing sounded appealing, so I reached out. Got a timely response. Got splits (100/160/225). This was before I even left home, so I put that on back burner to see what was out there.
Sugar.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/220503930/3179850878[/URL]
Pretty much same rationale for Tatum is why I tried Sugar. Mixed reviews but more positive. Not BBW guy, but thought I'd at least explore. 4 texts. No replies.
Secret Lusting.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/indianapolis/female-escorts/secret-lusting-with-satisfacti/542513571230[/URL]
Pictures reminded me a lot of this hot young MILF provider in my town. A rockin' bod with tattoos that does it on an as-needed basis and I can never catch her. So I gave this one a shot. But it became pretty evident she's just a content pusher. Stopped pursuing.
London.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/indianapolis/female-escorts/sunday-fun-with-london-/062983692155[/URL]
Read mixed reviews, but liked she was located downtown and GFE. Gave her a shot. Texted her about a week before I arrived and then again day before I arrived. She replied the day I arrived. 200/300/500. Didn't pursue.
Cum See Me.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/indianapolis/female-escorts/cum-see-me/953679973903[/URL]
Reached out and got a nice and timely response. 100/150/300. Can't remember why, but I put her as a Plan B.
Ashley.
[URL]https://callescort.org/317-659-5211[/URL]
Reached out by text and got an immediate reply. Sent splits of 140/200/300 and her SC. She was outcall only and IIRC I read some mixed review. But the outcall was the main reason didn't pursue.
JuicyJ.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/indianapolis/female-escorts/back-and-better-than-ever/687310476689[/URL]
Reviews sounded favorable. Definitely looked hot. Reached out by text 3 times. Never got a response.
IDK Name.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/indianapolis/female-escorts/im-back/409229649675[/URL]
Texted and got good and timely reply. Gave x /150/200 splits. First post I saw (linked above) said 38 weeks pregnant. No other ads after that said it. A text exchange happened. Said she is in Castleton. But she misspelled Castleton in her ad and text. IDK why, but it sent up a red flag for me. Figured if she lived here, she would know how to spell it. Followed my gut, I didn't pursue. Too bad too. A cute preggo pump is kinda fun for me.
Starr / Cali.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/indianapolis/female-escorts/come-relax-your-mind-and-book-/870205559855[/URL]
A lot of mixed reviews comparing her to what she used to be. I've never seen her before so figured I didn't have those comparison issues. Texted once. Got a response that made no sense to me. Asked her to clarify. Never heard from her again.
Willow.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/219666588/4632467467[/URL]
Reached out to her back in January when I made a quick trip into town. Asked her what her time was worth and for her SC. She replied she doesn't give out personal socials (which is fine). Didn't work out. Tried her again this trip. She replied when I was driving outside of Indy. We were working to make arrangements. She asked me when I'd be back in town and could meet. I said I needed to get cleaned up and I didn't have all the money on me. I was trying to point out I'd need to stop and get money. I guess she took it I was trying to lowball her and she made an appointment with someone else. Her splits were 140/260/450.
Nykole.
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Likes that she said she was GFE. Texted her 7 times over an 18 day period. Finally responded. It was kinda late. I said I would probably only have time for an HHR. She never responded after that.
Ashley.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/review_list/3177923484?gid=6851c433474367f8d3f9023a401a4a9a[/URL]
Texted her and got an immediate response. Despite having mostly good reviews, the outcall only made me a little uneasy. Put on back burner. I did end up reaching back out to her one of the nights to inquire (about 8:45). She replied at 10:15 that it was too late.
IDK Name.
(765)[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]175.
Pictures were really good. Reached out. No reviews and no social media. I texted with her for a little awhile trying to make it work, but I can't take chances. She said she was only in town for the day / night. ListCrawler ads were up for 2 days and then gone. It very much came off like a young girl (probably a young couple given the video in ad) kinda hurting for some money. Really wished it could have worked out. She was quite hot IMO. I checked to make sure the ad was still down and Google shows it was re-posted again 7 days ago but was now down again. If I lived in Indy, I'd monitor LC or try texting her to try to build a rapport and catch lightning in a bottle. I've found the ones you are nice to and help out when they're hurting for money pay you back in spades.
Bailey / Ally Jones.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/220682978/7737731390[/URL]
I assume she was an out of towner in for the big weekend. Body built for fun. Car date or outcall only. I didn't pursue.
Elizabeth / Anika.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/indianapolis/female-escorts/do-me-a-favorcome-take-my-clot/379883899047[/URL]
Texted 5 times before getting a response. It was almost midnight so asked for a 8 or 9 PM appt next day. She agreed. Texted her a few times next day (including trying to lock in 8 PM) with no response. Finally at 8 PM, I texted her sorry that it didn't work out. She replied that she'd been taking a nap.
Slim.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/220681007/4632941433[/URL]
Read someone post that she was a good time and the pics looked good. So I reached out. Tried again 2 days later. She replied to that and I headed her way. Body looked pretty good and slim but the boobs were sagging. Natural Bush. She didn't have make-up on (which was so-so) but I could certainly see she could be a looker with make-up. Has some rules including no DATY and no DFK.
Took care of business (140/240/ no HR offered me. 80 BJ) and got going. I liked the way she did her BBBJ but for some reason Junior wasn't totally into it. She tried to throw a hat on a semi-hard and mount it. It wasn't happening. She removed the hat and tried reviving him and got to a workable place. She rode it Asian cowgirl for a bit and then I pulled her to the edge of the bed for some standing Mish to completion. Between the rules and her not really into it, I would not repeat or recommend to a buddy. But will recommend on an eccie review in that she is real and provided the service I came for. Maybe we just didn't click. YMMV.
IDK Name.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/220263538/3179819949[/URL]
Reviews were pretty much she was really hot but had alot of rules and was kinda bitchy. I went ahead and reached as a flyer as a potential Plan B option. Figured there are worse things than banging a hot bitchy 21 year old with a lot of rules. Texted 6 times. No responses.
Kayla Marie.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/jenesaisquoi[/URL]
Actually had her Tryst page marked for several years (from back when I used to travel to Indy more regularly). Reached out and had a really good back for with her by text and then SC. She gave me her rules (which were all fine IMO) and when she said she was OK with some LFK / DFK, I booked it for later that night at 9 PM. At 7 PM I texted her to say I was going to run some errands but was good to go. At 8 PM, I texted her to get address. I was already out driving around so I headed to the general area she was in. Parked in a convenience store parking lot and waited to hear from her. Nothing. So at 9 PM with no reply, I aborted the mission. Sent her a text telling her that I was sorry it didn't work out. At 12:42 AM she replied saying she was sorry too. Fell asleep and phone died. She doubled down on the standard provider excuses. She texted me again later. Didn't close the door on it, but ended up not pursuing again.
Courtney Lynn.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/courtney-lynn[/URL]
Like Kayla Marie, this one that has been marked on my Tryst page for awhile. An attractive redhead willing to do butt stuff. I reached out to her. Exchanged a few texts but was pushing outcall. Ultimately, the desire for GFE outweighed some Greek burning to host. Didn't continue to pursue.
Beautiful Redhead.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/indianapolis/female-escorts/beautiful-redhead-that-cant-sh/033593850256[/URL]
Liked her pics. The thought of a hot redhead always sounds good. Texted 7 times. No responses.
Barbie.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/carmel/female-escorts/petite-tiny--white-girl-/548197430751[/URL]
Pictures definitely looked good. Kinda felt like a fake ad but if it was real and she looked like the pics. It was worth the shot. Texted 9 times. No responses.
Cutie with a Booty.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/bloomington/female-escorts/cutie-with-a-booty/062550366511[/URL]
Like Barbie, worth a shot. 5 texts. No responses.
Anja.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/anja[/URL]
Loved her reviews and that she was so GFE / DFK-friendly in her Tryst ad. Pics are sexy as hell. One of my top targets coming in. Texted a few times early and never got a response. Kinda assumed the big rollers had come to town and she was booked up. On a whim before leaving town, I tried her one last time. She responded and we eventually got something booked for later that night. Incall was a nice residential home in a safe neighborhood.
She was a very attractive older provider (Ad says 40's which works for me. I'm older too). Obviously the body of a 40-something as well, but was pretty bangin' and she knew how to use it.
Pleasant, ez to talk with, and gave a great girlfriend-like experience that I was hoping for.
Hopefully I made a positive impression on her as well because I definitely want to see her again if / when I come back to Indianapolis.
Highly recommend.
And lastly.
Jade #3.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/indiana/indianapolis/202534686[/URL]
Texted 4 times. Replied on #5. Gave me her splits (140/200/350) and her SC. Texted 5 more times trying to set something up. No responses. Finally after being home for 3 days, she replied saying she was available.