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Date
[QUOTE=Biggjake;3464382]I'm a regular in toledo, but I have a date later this week with a girl from Roseville, and she wants to go to a strip club. Which clubs are closer to that area? Any clubs have night's for couples? I'm sure most clubs allow women as long as they are with a guy? Might get some couples dances. But just looking for a fun environment. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Bogart's lounge is a good place for couples.
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[QUOTE=Biggjake;3464382]I'm a regular in toledo, but I have a date later this week with a girl from Roseville, and she wants to go to a strip club. Which clubs are closer to that area? Any clubs have night's for couples? I'm sure most clubs allow women as long as they are with a guy? Might get some couples dances. But just looking for a fun environment. Thanks.[/QUOTE]As far as close clubs to that area you pretty much have 3 choices Players and Coliseum and BTs. They are within a mile and a half of each other on 8 Mile pretty close to Roseville. I haven; t need to any of the 3 for a few years.
Hope that helps you out.
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[QUOTE=Checkers123;3464623]Most clubs don't have a day shift cover, and most of them have a cover at night. VIP tax or not its always a good idea to tip the bouncer.[/QUOTE]Why? I've never tipped the bouncer. The bouncer is there to protect the girls, they should be the ones tipping.
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Rumor has it that Legends got busted for selling alcohol to underage customers. How that could happen with security checking I'd at the door is beyond belief. What I did hear was that they will be forced to shut down for 90 days, when isn't known. Heard this from several different sources so the information seems legit.
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Bouncer
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;3465106]Why? I've never tipped the bouncer. The bouncer is there to protect the girls, they should be the ones tipping.[/QUOTE]It's hush money. The bouncer / VIP troll whatever you want to call him, can easily turn on you in various ways if he is so inclined. Me, I prefer to pay him off so he leaves us alone.
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Coli
[QUOTE=Sixguns;3464843]As far as close clubs to that area you pretty much have 3 choices Players and Coliseum and BTs. They are within a mile and a half of each other on 8 Mile pretty close to Roseville. I haven; t need to any of the 3 for a few years.
Hope that helps you out.[/QUOTE]Coliseum for sure, nice big club lot of space and action, high end, and close to Roseville. Have fun. Let us know how it goes.
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[QUOTE=StripperLover;3465660]Rumor has it that Legends got busted for selling alcohol to underage customers. How that could happen with security checking I'd at the door is beyond belief. What I did hear was that they will be forced to shut down for 90 days, when isn't known. Heard this from several different sources so the information seems legit.[/QUOTE]That sucks I love that club. Where should I call home base now?
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[QUOTE=LohnDog;3467461]That sucks I love that club. Where should I call home base now?[/QUOTE]Player's, its the sister club.
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[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;3465106]Why? I've never tipped the bouncer. The bouncer is there to protect the girls, they should be the ones tipping.[/QUOTE]The girls tip-out everyday. But yes I do agree with you. The girls should be the ones paying the bouncer to look the other way. I don't tip the bouncer to look the other way, I tip the bouncer for special treatment.
The bouncers are there to protect everyone. If two drunk guys start kicking your ass, the bouncers will help you. Sure there are some bouncers that are steroid assholes, but for the most part they are just trying to earn a living just like you and I. But to answer your question why, comps. I'm not trying to sound like an asshole but I haven't paid cover in years, I always get the bigger booth when I go into the VIP and sometimes I don't even have to pay the VIP tax, I always get a nice table or booth (even if someone is already sitting there), a few bouncers I know have become managers so I've received a lot of free drinks and even a free meal or two. I've even had a few bouncers send over the "new girl" so I can break them in.
It just goes on and on the benefits of tipping from getting your car washed to getting the VIP treatment at the strip club.
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[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;3467124]It's hush money. The bouncer / VIP troll whatever you want to call him, can easily turn on you in various ways if he is so inclined. Me, I prefer to pay him off so he leaves us alone.[/QUOTE]I don't know if I'd go that far. You might get a shitty booth but I doubt they will turn on you. Strip clubs are businesses, it would be bad business if the clubs allowed their employees to turn on their customers.
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[QUOTE=Sixguns;3464843]As far as close clubs to that area you pretty much have 3 choices Players and Coliseum and BTs. They are within a mile and a half of each other on 8 Mile pretty close to Roseville. I haven; t need to any of the 3 for a few years.
Hope that helps you out.[/QUOTE]BT's Detroit is a very poorly ran club. I wouldn't even take someone I disliked there LOL.
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[QUOTE=Nuwisha304;3464825]Bogart's lounge is a good place for couples.[/QUOTE]Lord and baby Jesus, do not take her to Bogart's.
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Penthouse Update
Update on Penthouse Club. They are back open now, apparently since last weekend. Not sure why they were shut down. Regardless, it is definitely business as usual. I sat at the bar as I always do and waited to be approached. I never approach them, as it puts you in a position of weakness from a negotiation standpoint. I decided to sip 4 beers and if I got through them and no one approached me, then I would leave. Another art of negotiation, always be willing to walk away. There were some hot chicks dancing but the ratio was more guys to girls and the girls seemed to rush over to their regulars as soon as they came off the stage. Hardly any girl was trolling the floor looking for hook up. So it was not looking good for that, but I was enjoying the show. As I was halfway through my 4th beer, "Debin" sat next to me and started chatting. She is either black, blasian, or mulatto, not sure, but young, cute, maybe a 7 or and 8 depending on your taste. Not my type but I decided to see what could happen. She started giving me the DTW handshake and asked if I was ready to play. Since it was now or never I decided to find out. We went to the VIP, sat down, and she asked what I was looking for. I said a BJ for $ sounded good to me. She countered with $$ and I said no, that didn't work for me. Notice I did not counter offer. She said she could work with $. 5 and I said I can only spend $. 4 and she agreed. OK great, so down to business. Ah and then another complication she asked for the donation up front. NO FREAKING WAY. I told her that was a show stopper. She goes welllllll I guess I trust you. Hmmm, OK. So off we go. A very basic CBJ that got the job done nothing more or less. Couple of oddities, she handed me the protection, unwrapped, for me to deal with it by myself. Well that's fine don't really care. Once done she immediately popped up ready to head out, as a pro I had a wad of cocktail napkins in my pocket so I could deal with the residuals, including quite a bit of slobber on the couch. Interesting that if it wasn't for me, it would have stayed there. Paid her, goodbye hug, off our separate ways. Except, I went over to the bar to get a drink and there she was at the end of the bar having a smoke. So I went downstairs to get away from her. Overall, a typical PH experience. Have fun.
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Negotiations
[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;3467566]Update on Penthouse Club. They are back open now, apparently since last weekend. Not sure why they were shut down. Regardless, it is definitely business as usual. I sat at the bar as I always do and waited to be approached. I never approach them, as it puts you in a position of weakness from a negotiation standpoint. I decided to sip 4 beers and if I got through them and no one approached me, then I would leave. Another art of negotiation, always be willing to walk away. There were some hot chicks dancing but the ratio was more guys to girls and the girls seemed to rush over to their regulars as soon as they came off the stage. Hardly any girl was trolling the floor looking for hook up. So it was not looking good for that, but I was enjoying the show. As I was halfway through my 4th beer, "Debin" sat next to me and started chatting. She is either black, blasian, or mulatto, not sure, but young, cute, maybe a 7 or and 8 depending on your taste. Not my type but I decided to see what could happen. She started giving me the DTW handshake and asked if I was ready to play. Since it was now or never I decided to find out. We went to the VIP, sat down, and she asked what I was looking for. I said a BJ for $ sounded good to me. She countered with $$ and I said no, that didn't work for me. Notice I did not counter offer. She said she could work with $. 5 and I said I can only spend $. 4 and she agreed. OK great, so down to business. Ah and then another complication she asked for the donation up front. NO FREAKING WAY. I told her that was a show stopper. She goes welllllll I guess I trust you. Hmmm, OK. So off we go. A very basic CBJ that got the job done nothing more or less. Couple of oddities, she handed me the protection, unwrapped, for me to deal with it by myself. Well that's fine don't really care. Once done she immediately popped up ready to head out, as a pro I had a wad of cocktail napkins in my pocket so I could deal with the residuals, including quite a bit of slobber on the couch. Interesting that if it wasn't for me, it would have stayed there. Paid her, goodbye hug, off our separate ways. Except, I went over to the bar to get a drink and there she was at the end of the bar having a smoke. So I went downstairs to get away from her. Overall, a typical PH experience. Have fun.[/QUOTE]Mr. Caul, just wondering why you wait until inside the VIP to negotiate, when most of the advice here on the forum insists on negotiating rates and service well before agreeing to enter the VIP.
I'll admit I have never been to PHC, so maybe that method doesn't work there. I will also admit I have not visited a SC since I went to The Criket in February, so maybe things have changed since then; but I can't see paying $140 for only a CBJ. I usually get BBBJ and CFS for $120-$140 in a club, or I don't go to VIP, period.
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Re: Payment in advance
[QUOTE=Checkers123;3464577]Once the have all the money what's their motivation to do a good job. If I negotiate a $150 deal and she starts changing the rules halfway through the second song, I can say stop and just pay her for one song ($25) and still have $125 in my pocket. Trust me, if she has all the money she's not going to give you change back.[/QUOTE]Amen to this. The worst experience I ever had was when I was new at this, failed to establish a price from the blonde dancer with big boobs before going to VIP (at La Chambre years ago) - she kept telling me what would happen "depends on how big a tipper you are" -- she got all the money in my wallet in exchange for a few licks of her pussy. That experience, plus reading this forum, taught me to negotiate by setting the price for the service I wanted before leaving my table. I have never had a problem with a dancer attempting to renegotiate after entering VIP. And I agree also that the best experiences have been with the dancers who seem to need reminding that I owe them for services rendered. More than once, payment was not made until I remembered belatedly after dressing.