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Oh yes! The holding and training grounds for some future AMP workers. Value! Value!
You get a hottie (bonus) there good luck repeating if you wait too long cause when school is over she is whisked away to some AMP somewhere else in the country.
If you do not get a hottie you still get value for your buck.
Yes Yes this what I am talking about.come on you lurkers add your comments or PM me I will pass it along. Mongers stick together.
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I would like to meet with you
Now should I be so desperate as to overpay for anything?
NO! I should warn others.
What would I be verifying ? That I am stupid ?
This stuff happens because monger are overpaying for real service.
In this area there are SW, part timers who are on the DL (my fav) who for $ will give you MSOG and stay with you a couple hours.
Look as good and some better then CL.
I am not talking serious druggies but who really needs money and will work for it. This is not a rich area.
What is the real difference between these girls and CL?
Cyberland and price.
After years of conflict between the little head and the big head, the little head has concluded that he can not tell the difference and if he relaxes the big head can and will find him more than before. The big head has agreed to let the little head play more as long as he can make the choices. The two are both much happier now.
I didnt coment on service cause that didnt seem to be what was on your mind, of couse i can only speak for my self and girls that i recomend here in that area. I belive in service, i belive you get what you pay for in most instances.
As far as me talking about cutting back on driving, maybe if you cant afford the current prices you might just cut back............there too
CT Michelle
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]Gas is a necessity, extra trim is NOT.
I do cut back on extra driving when the price is to high and wait for it to come down, like I do with trim
We are no dummies, girls will take what they can get. If we do not pay they will lower price.
Providers have to have money.
As far as the rental car goes. I am just going to the corner, I could walk if I had to. If it is bad weather I will rent a TAXI! I do not need to rent a LIMO!
If this was not true you would have ignored the comments.
Guys will pay what the market will bare? Does that mean the providers will take as much $$ as they can?
Not one word on service or value?
I see the money part upsets you and service and value is not that important.
This will work guys stick together and please comment here.
CT Michelle[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CT Michelle]I didnt coment on service cause that didnt seem to be what was on your mind, of couse i can only speak for my self and girls that i recomend here in that area. I belive in service, i belive you get what you pay for in most instances.
As far as me talking about cutting back on driving, maybe if you cant afford the current prices you might just cut back............there too
CT Michelle[/QUOTE] Bet your spell checking is broke.
Make no mistake I can afford that and do spend more.
I am not foolish enough to spend to much of it on one dump.
I am talking value for your buck.
You are only concerned with how much money you can get for as little service as possible. Not much value for the buck.
Every man here can see where your ( meaning providers) real concerns are.
You say only that you BELIEVE in service, I expect and demand it for my money.
Guess I am new to all this. Should I empty my wallet and be happy with whatever the "lady" feels like giving in return?
You say you get what you PAY for? If that were true I would not be typing.
Suggesting that I am either cheap or poor is a very old stripper ploy. So OK sit down I will buy you that $20 drink for 5 min of bs to prove (because you hurt my male ego) you are wrong and it is not because of the fact there is no value. Is not this how it is supposed to play out in the head a provider?
I do agree to not only cut back but avoid overpriced providers, on this we are on the same page.
Geez I hope other monger do not fall for the BS and get more bang for their buck.
I am sorry but I missed the part about why exactly, $$ is a fair value. I have stated why I know it is not.
[url]http://www.nbc5.com/news/16603124/detail.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Talk Turkey]I'm in agreement with most of the posts re: CL-USA outrageously over-priced.
How do we reach the mongers who aren't educated enough on this subject?
All I can think of is to post these sentiments on CL. It will probably get flagged eventually but it's worth the effort.
Also going against mongers who want change are the mongers who have more dough & don't care that they overpay. How are you going to educate them? It will be interesting to see how the economy affects prices on CL & elsewhere.
T-Man[/QUOTE]As far as saying anything on CL ,that is not for me because that is a USA based server and LEO can get records. Statements might be considered contributing to or soliciting prostitution. Not worth it to me to find out. Damn big head!
If it is posted here then I will state my case here. I will tell others to help the team out. Sort of do not TOFTT by avoiding overpricing.
I will state my opinions here because server is not based in USA.
Yes I understand this is all fantasy and we are just talking but why take chances.
I am SgtPerv and I approve this message ;)
Wow, complete with overly dramatic, and undoubtedly false, depiction of abandoned child drinking out of the toilet.
If they'll lie to reporters, why wouldn't they lie in court?
What a crock.
[QUOTE=SgtPerv][url]http://www.nbc5.com/news/16603124/detail.html[/url][/QUOTE]
You have made mention about me? Personally? Maybe you need to read what is usally said about me, I give great service at a great price and have mostly repeate business. My only point was some girls ask for more money and are worth it. Some girls ask for more and are not worth it and that is what this forum is for here, to weed out the bad from the good. Not to bash in general.
CT Michelle
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]Bet your spell checking is broke.
Make no mistake I can afford that and do spend more.
I am not foolish enough to spend to much of it on one dump.
I am talking value for your buck.
You are only concerned with how much money you can get for as little service as possible. Not much value for the buck.
Every man here can see where your ( meaning providers) real concerns are.
You say only that you BELIEVE in service, I expect and demand it for my money.
Guess I am new to all this. Should I empty my wallet and be happy with whatever the "lady" feels like giving in return?
You say you get what you PAY for? If that were true I would not be typing.
Suggesting that I am either cheap or poor is a very old stripper ploy. So OK sit down I will buy you that $20 drink for 5 min of bs to prove (because you hurt my male ego) you are wrong and it is not because of the fact there is no value. Is not this how it is supposed to play out in the head a provider?
I do agree to not only cut back but avoid overpriced providers, on this we are on the same page.
Geez I hope other monger do not fall for the BS and get more bang for their buck.
I am sorry but I missed the part about why exactly, $$ is a fair value. I have stated why I know it is not.[/QUOTE]
Although i dont belive any child should be left alone. Nor should a mother have her child around when doing this business. Im very sure that child was not left alone long enough to drink out of a toliet. It said she had just gone to the other room.
CT Michelle
[QUOTE=P T Marauder]Wow, complete with overly dramatic, and undoubtedly false, depiction of abandoned child drinking out of the toilet.
If they'll lie to reporters, why wouldn't they lie in court?
What a crock.[/QUOTE]
Again you dodge the question of value.
You say some are worth it. Well exactly how are they worth it for $$?
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]Again you dodge the question of value.
You say some are worth it. Well exactly how are they worth it for $$?[/QUOTE]I don't generally weigh in on value because I'm more often than not accused of overpaying. However, I have found some good providers out of the clubs that are not rush, rush, rush, or overzelous in rules or what's not allowed. I would agree this is an expensive way to find 3 or 4 girls I like and enjoy being with, but then those 3 or 4 girls are enough variety for me to last awhile. I also post when I find someone I think is a good provider, which is.- as Michelle points out.- the purpose of this forum.
I had a time with a new girl I picked up out of one of the Lake Station clubs a few months ago on Wednesday. I saw her once before, enjoyed the experience, and came back a second time. Costs me $$, but she's hot, clean, young, and fun.- and a non CL girl which means I don't have to worry about 20 other guys being there ahead of me. I would personally rather pay 2 bills for a known quantity than go though the same amount with 2 or 3 girls I don't even like. I consider this value, especially in light of all the crap our uncle pulls, the safety factor of a known quantity, and the fact they all leave at the end.
So, value for me equals a good provider, I'm willing to pay $$, a good time, someone who.- in turn.- thinks it's a good arrangement, I know she hasn't been with 20 guys that day, and safety. Yeah, I'm scared to death of leo.
PS
The girls I saw on Wednesday said Paris.- from Shags.- got a boob job. D Cup she said. She should be on the circuit again in a few weeks, this I'll have to see.
[QUOTE=Mr Mr]I had a time with a new girl I picked up out of one of the Lake Station clubs a few months ago on Wednesday. I saw her once before, enjoyed the experience, and came back a second time. Costs me $$, I would personally rather pay 2 bills for a known quantity than go though the same amount with 2 or 3 girls I don't even like. [/QUOTE]How much time and money did you invest to get to the point of being able to meet her outside the club? $$ include the cost of the notel? I'd like to know how you accomplished this. More details please. Every boys dream to tap a dancer.
And yes i agree, although not all CL girls see that many guys, you really need to look for quality.
CT Michelle
[QUOTE=Mr Mr]I don't generally weigh in on value because I'm more often than not accused of overpaying. However, I have found some good providers out of the clubs that are not rush, rush, rush, or overzelous in rules or what's not allowed. I would agree this is an expensive way to find 3 or 4 girls I like and enjoy being with, but then those 3 or 4 girls are enough variety for me to last awhile. I also post when I find someone I think is a good provider, which is -- as Michelle points out -- the purpose of this forum.
I had a time with a new girl I picked up out of one of the Lake Station clubs a few months ago on Wednesday. I saw her once before, enjoyed the experience, and came back a second time. Costs me $$, but she's hot, clean, young, and fun -- and a non CL girl which means I don't have to worry about 20 other guys being there ahead of me. I would personally rather pay 2 bills for a known quantity than go though the same amount with 2 or 3 girls I don't even like. I consider this value, especially in light of all the crap our uncle pulls, the safety factor of a known quantity, and the fact they all leave at the end.
So, value for me equals a good provider, I'm willing to pay $$, a good time, someone who -- in turn -- thinks it's a good arrangement, I know she hasn't been with 20 guys that day, and safety. Yeah, I'm scared to death of leo.
PS
The girls I saw on Wednesday said Paris -- from Shags -- got a boob job. D Cup she said. She should be on the circuit again in a few weeks, this I'll have to see.[/QUOTE]
This discussion can go on forever. Every individual has their own opinion on what value is. This is only to be expected as we each have our own likes and dislikes. A $$ value to one person, my be of little value to the next person who would see it as overpriced. Some may in fact see the $$ as underpaying if they really enjoyed the experience.
Similarly, each provider has their own opinion of value. Some think that if you nut, that is value. Others may provide a GFE experience. Some, who I have been lucky enough to find, have enjoyed the time as well, and have had little boundaries (other than safe) and never watched the clock allowing more than the standard time.
When the opinions of the provider and the client match... it is a wonderful experience and a fantastic value.
When there is a great mismatch, providers are seen as ripoffs and no-repeats. Clients are often seen as cheap.
When you find that match... treasure it. Do not make them your girlfriend, or try to date them outside of the arrangement. Don't let your judgement become clouded by trying to help them out of their situation.
Providers, don't try to take advantage of the "nice guy" by asking too much, or bringing your troubles to the meetings in hopes of a little extra sympathy. These things get tiring to the client.
Clients like to have reliable providers. Providers like to have regular clients. It is less risky for both. When you find that value, do your best on each side to keep the arrangement a mutual good value.
[QUOTE=Mr Mr]I don't generally weigh in on value because I'm more often than not accused of overpaying. However, I have found some good providers out of the clubs that are not rush, rush, rush, or overzelous in rules or what's not allowed. I would agree this is an expensive way to find 3 or 4 girls I like and enjoy being with, but then those 3 or 4 girls are enough variety for me to last awhile. I also post when I find someone I think is a good provider, which is -- as Michelle points out -- the purpose of this forum.
I had a time with a new girl I picked up out of one of the Lake Station clubs a few months ago on Wednesday. I saw her once before, enjoyed the experience, and came back a second time. Costs me $$, but she's hot, clean, young, and fun -- and a non CL girl which means I don't have to worry about 20 other guys being there ahead of me. I would personally rather pay 2 bills for a known quantity than go though the same amount with 2 or 3 girls I don't even like. I consider this value, especially in light of all the crap our uncle pulls, the safety factor of a known quantity, and the fact they all leave at the end.
So, value for me equals a good provider, I'm willing to pay $$, a good time, someone who -- in turn -- thinks it's a good arrangement, I know she hasn't been with 20 guys that day, and safety. Yeah, I'm scared to death of leo.
PS
The girls I saw on Wednesday said Paris -- from Shags -- got a boob job. D Cup she said. She should be on the circuit again in a few weeks, this I'll have to see.[/QUOTE]
You recon your objectives and observe prior to engaging. You already have intel and accessed the value of your target .Whoa!
I am talking about $$ on provider who goes cyber (CL) in this area and are said to be worth it by another provider.
That is the value question that gets dodged and I knew before I asked it would not be answered directly. Guess why.
I know, try it or do not yadayadayada.
What we allow to happen here will and does effect other provider prices.
$$ for amps or club girls is different type of mongering but like I said before it is more value with less chance of error.
I am done with this, for awhile, it is up to you guys I know what I am going to do.
[QUOTE=CT Michelle]And yes i agree, although not all CL girls see that many guys, you really need to look for quality.
CT Michelle[/QUOTE]He was talking about NON-CL providers. Not even close to justifying your claim of CL providers.
This was one of the options ( along with amps) I mention in the beginning that was a better deal for $$.
Notice he did go into detail or was he asked about the deed itself. That is not what made it worth $$ in itself.
I remember being with the provider was called "dating". They called it a "guaranteed date" because you spent the same amount of money as you would on date with a regular girl without the wine/dine and time and guessing if you were going to get laid.
I guess these days they call it "divorcing". A "guaranteed divorce" because they want all the money you make the days you are with them.
Is it an upside that you get to keep your house and car?
[url]http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/ers/880426475.html[/url]
This is the same person who offer me it for .5 a couple months ago.
I turned it down ( I have the PM).
Now she goes CL and wants $$?
And she is for real and worth it?
Price for a hottie must skyrocket now.
Here is what add said:
Sexy bbw stripper will do private shows for you. Warm hazel eyes, brownish red hair, 42DDD(need i say more) Call me to set something up. ***-***-**** Ask for Shelly $200.00 No emails, no texts and no blocked calls. Im for real and you should be too.
Is this who was saying some CL girls are worth $$ ?
She feels she worth $$ .
We can see the real reason she was so defensive.
I am thinking Vaseline and Magazine
Offer a hottie ( still overpriced ) and if (more likely when) she is not available you get one of the others.
Of course at a discount cause you did not get first choice.
We are so lucky cause now these .5 provider a couple of months ago, who now are worth $$ (lol) are ours for $.5.
WTF
[QUOTE=Chingon]How much time and money did you invest to get to the point of being able to meet her outside the club? $$ include the cost of the notel? I'd like to know how you accomplished this. More details please. Every boys dream to tap a dancer.[/QUOTE]
It can take time. First, you have to know the club a little, that there's extracurricular activites even if the girl your after does not partake. That's where this site somes in handy. The $10 cover is a nightmare. You pay it and there's not always something I like so I leave. The $10 adds up. Later, it's all about the conversation in the room and feeling the girl out on what's available. I'm not shy about it, if I ike them I just ask if they do anything outside the club. Generally a dance to get the digits is in order somewhere along the way, sometimes not (only happened once).
So, if I add up everything with this last girl, I probably dropped $120 to get the digits over time, then had to chat a few times on the phone until she concluded I wasn't a nutjob, then I hit it. I did pay the room, $39.00. Spread it out over the number of times I'll see her and it works out well for me.
Honestly, the most expensive part is the cover because what your after is not always there. I have 4 girls I'll see and digits are not hard to get, Paris dropped them on me the first time I had a dance with her and I saw her about 10 times over the last few years and always had a good time, Angel gave them out in the room but after the first time I saw her, her phone got turned off. Too bad, because she was hot. And this one, well it took longer but we cut the deal in the back room and she gave the digits. Cherry was a CL girl, but always fair with the price $+.3 and I still have her digits and we'll hookup occasionaly. This last one was was worth the pursuit, trust me.
I'm just friendly and upfront about what I want. I tried it it with Destiny once at H***eys and she just said, "sorry, I don't do anything outside the club." (She doesn't do anything in the club either) I figure, what's there to lose? And no, I was never given bad digits, you can suss this out pretty quickly.
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]
Notice he did go into detail or was he asked about the deed itself. That is not what made it worth $$ in itself.[/QUOTE]
Dude, you are really observant. Part of the value for me is actually finding a girl that turns me on, it makes the value equation work. CL is a crap shoot.
Hey, she's a nice girl. If she can get $$, more power to her.
[QUOTE=P T Marauder]Hey, she's a nice girl. If she can get $$, more power to her.[/QUOTE]Nice girls do not jack the prices up for nice mongers.
[QUOTE=SgtPerv][url]http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/ers/880426475.html[/url]
This is the same person who offer me it for .5 a couple months ago.
I turned it down ( I have the PM).
Now she goes CL and wants $$?
[/QUOTE]
SgtPerv,
I'm thinking that $$ might be worth it..... worth it to pay [b]you[/b] not to post any more of her pictures here.
Sorry Lapdogg I needed to share my pain even though I know the rule.
Who was the thicker mexican girl that use to do massages off Cline ave? I think she got busted but then apeared here and there. I'd like to see her again.
And she is still around although a lot more under the radar. She does still post on CL though, so keep an eye open.
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]Sorry Lapdogg I needed to share my pain even though I know the rule.[/QUOTE]
LMAO...that pic is hilarious.
She's still around I saw her a few weeks ago. She a fun one. Definitely under the radar.
Shes young looking and you have to like them sort of Big. But when you just need to get the job done. 50 reasons can't be beat.
[url]http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/ers/884485236.html[/url]
I need to say that i have been busy working not looking to see what nasty things SGT has to say about me. I do not consider someone who spends so much time here putting others down here "NICE", SGT get a magazine and do your self, if thats what works for you, im very happy for you. For some thats enough. But in a ecomomy like this you have to have a starting point. As far as what ever i ask for..............................Why do you care? I mean really? If you are not interested in me its just as well for me. I have more business regardless of what my price is then i want.
For anyone that is interested, i also posted a message for my new hatter SGT under CTS site.
CT Michelle
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]Nice girls do not jack the prices up for nice mongers.[/QUOTE]
I wanted to thank you for comming to my defence, I feel i have done Sgt wrong some how, although im not sure how though. But i have looked though many of his posts and it seems i am the only provider that he seems to pick on, But clearly he was interested enough to PM me, like so many others. I will from now on just consider the person every time i read something he writes.
CT Michelle
[QUOTE=P T Marauder]Hey, she's a nice girl. If she can get $$, more power to her.[/QUOTE]
You are pointless of course.My pm was about yahoo group not a request for you at all.
Of course your door is being knocked off the hinges and it is hurting you to turn away all those guys no matter what you ask.Yeah!
I have stated and seen come to light some of what I have said so far.
I am directing attention to the CL situation for the monger benefit.
As easy as it is , it is still.
I am so glad you straighted that out.
CT Michelle
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]You are pointless of course.My pm was about yahoo group not a request for you at all.
Of course your door is being knocked off the hinges and it is hurting you to turn away all those guys no matter what you ask.Yeah!
I have stated and seen come to light some of what I have said so far.
I am directing attention to the CL situation for the monger benefit.
As easy as it is , it is still.[/QUOTE]
The only thing I really got straightened out is at one time I thought you had some type of intelligence, know it is so obvious you have very little.
No logic, just emotional BS..
I guess you must be female with the belief men are actually stupid and can not see through the crap about CL.
I realize you are trying to bring all this to a personal attack so it will discredit what I have said and backed up with proof and example.
You, yourself , have no effect on me but trying to get the monger to even think the CL crap is a value , effects us all (mongers) indirectly.
I know you think the "white knight" mongers will come to your rescue but most know I am right.
I absolutely do not care about your clientele. After all it is great news that there are some fearless wingmen out there.
They could club with me anytime and I am buying.
What I do and have always cared about is the overpricing BS of CL.
CL has always been the focus of my attack ( for all mongers).
Now if you want to walk into the line of fire, you will get hit.
You are really an easy target.
Stay with your CT Theater reporting stuff because at that you are useful and does not hurt monger's eco-system.
[url]http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/ers/885269867.html[/url]
She is getting smarter.
I am intelligent, and i know alot more then most. Although Im not sure why you think picking on me is the thing to do. We both know you think you can make a difference, the only difference you will make is to the few men that will read what you say here and take notice of what you say. When men find a provider they like the will pay what ever she is asking. The price can change every day for all it matters. (And sometimes mine does)
As far as the eco-system, I have stocks that are doing really bad, there is a election to consider and the world as a whole has bigger problems then you thinking prices are to high for pussy.
CT Michelle
[QUOTE=SgtPerv]The only thing I really got straightened out is at one time I thought you had some type of intelligence, know it is so obvious you have very little.
No logic, just emotional BS..
I guess you must be female with the belief men are actually stupid and can not see through the crap about CL.
I realize you are trying to bring all this to a personal attack so it will discredit what I have said and backed up with proof and example.
You, yourself , have no effect on me but trying to get the monger to even think the CL crap is a value , effects us all (mongers) indirectly.
I know you think the "white knight" mongers will come to your rescue but most know I am right.
I absolutely do not care about your clientele. After all it is great news that there are some fearless wingmen out there.
They could club with me anytime and I am buying.
What I do and have always cared about is the overpricing BS of CL.
CL has always been the focus of my attack ( for all mongers).
Now if you want to walk into the line of fire, you will get hit.
You are really an easy target.
Stay with your CT Theater reporting stuff because at that you are useful and does not hurt monger's eco-system.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CT Michelle] We both know you think you can make a difference, the only difference you will make is to the few men that will read what you say here and take notice of what you say. When men find a provider they like the will pay what ever she is asking.
CT Michelle[/QUOTE]If I help just one monger ,I am not wasting my time and being a good member.
This must be working or you would not persist. Keep it up mongers!
Insulting mongers by saying they will pay whatever a provider asks is just showing them what providers really think of them.
Guess we will see if the mongers are as stupid as you think they are.
P.S. Thank you so much for intellectually helping in my cause and verifying things I have said in prior post. lol
[QUOTE=CT Michelle]I am intelligent, and i know alot more then most. Although Im not sure why you think picking on me is the thing to do.
CT Michelle[/QUOTE]1) Show us you know how to at least use spell check in your reports.
2) Refer to the previous post of mine where I said "I realize you are trying to bring all this to a personal attack so it will discredit what I have said and backed up with proof and example."