Massage Parlor Reports

Stopped at Oxygen Friday night about 8 or so. Got in right away, OK mid-30's gal, good TS and massage. Uneventful HJ. Just trying a few out, so far, no standouts.

[QUOTE=Tampahunter]Stopped at Oxygen Friday night about 8 or so. Got in right away, OK mid-30's gal, good TS and massage. Uneventful HJ. Just trying a few out, so far, no standouts.[/QUOTE]I was there last week similar experience . I know if the massage rooms only have curtains i know it only will be a hj . Like 5 yrs ago when it was called japanese spa this place was good nothing like osaka but more than a hj I will stay away .

[QUOTE=Jets33]....Like 5 yrs ago when it was called japanese spa this place was good ....[/QUOTE]I was going to Japanese Spa 5 years ago when it was in the Oxygen building location. I never had any service worth mentioning.

I did try repeatedly, and I'm a big tipper. No such luck.

I went by again today. Saw "Yumi."

Pretty face.

But, I've never had such rough handling in a TS.

Uninspired massage.

She hurried to get me out the door.

Next time, I'll ask for someone else!

Is Osaka Spa still not in buisness? I went there a few months ago and Mamason met me in the parking lot and said "no girls". Havent heard any mention of them thru here lately either. use to be a great place!

[QUOTE=Vitamin P] Next time, I'll ask for someone else![/QUOTE]

Might be better to GO someplace else...

[QUOTE=Shlong]Is Osaka Spa still not in buisness? I went there a few months ago and Mamason met me in the parking lot and said "no girls". Havent heard any mention of them thru here lately either. use to be a great place![/QUOTE]

I would of tried and gotten the old mamason, but maybe i'm a weirdo....

TT

[QUOTE=Shlong]Is Osaka Spa still not in buisness? I went there a few months ago and Mamason met me in the parking lot and said "no girls". Havent heard any mention of them thru here lately either. use to be a great place![/QUOTE]Did a drive by yesterday. Still dark and empty :(

Anyone go to that buritto bus closer to 275 for a burrito? @#!*& That was an AWESOME burrito

Went by Subshine Friday afternoon and saw Ruby. Her first day was Thursday. Came in from Minn.

Sweet young thing mid 20's. Long blk hair and very tight little body.

Very poor massage skills but all other skills were top notch and she is a pleaser.

Have fun

Sunshine has gone downhill. Maybe it was just the one girl. She had no body tone. Crappy massage and horrible HJ. Lead me to believe nothing else was on menu. Kept insisting I saw her last week. I kept saying no. (it has been months since I have been there)

I wanted to get up and leave w/o finishing. I was out in 1/2 hour.

She insisted on using some lotion that had me smelling like a ho for the next few hours. Had to stay out of the hours for several hours just to get the smell to fade away.

Willnot reurn until I hear of better experiences.

[QUOTE=Amperage]Sunshine has gone downhill. Maybe it was just the one girl. She had no body tone. Crappy massage and horrible HJ. Lead me to believe nothing else was on menu. Kept insisting I saw her last week. I kept saying no. (it has been months since I have been there)

I wanted to get up and leave w/o finishing. I was out in 1/2 hour.

She insisted on using some lotion that had me smelling like a ho for the next few hours. Had to stay out of the hours for several hours just to get the smell to fade away.

Willnot reurn until I hear of better experiences.[/QUOTE]

I believe Sunshine may be under new management. On the last two visits, Sara the cool young mamasan, was not there. Also the cute young spinners she usually had were also not present. They said Sara was on vacation, in this business that usually means she moved on.

On both visits I had a session with Pinky, not to shabby in the looks department, but no cute young spinner like Yo-Yo.

Sara ran a pretty decent operation; I think she trained all her girls to a specific routine that lead to a full enjoyable hour.

TT

Made a trip over the bay in my quest to find the void left by Osaka. Had a session with Q, who’s been reviewed a couple times on the St Pete Massage thread. She’s an older attractive lady much like the old ladies of Osaka, so I thought I was in for a good session, no such luck.

60 house fee for 30 minutes and a $1.0 tip for the full monty. Overall a poor performance, but a place I’ll keep on my radar.

TT

Hello Tampa! Might be heading out there over the summer for a short stay and was wondering if there are any AAMPS available and/or recommended?

TIA

[QUOTE=Cienega32]Hello Tampa! Might be heading out there over the summer for a short stay and was wondering if there are any AAMPS available and/or recommended?

TIA[/QUOTE]


Check the last 15pages of this forum and you will find an enormous amount of data that is part of 2007 action.

[QUOTE=Eye Myt]Check the last 15pages of this forum and you will find an enormous amount of data that is part of 2007 action.[/QUOTE]
Well, actually my post was titled AAMPS not AMPS. All I've found mentioned was AMPS. I was wondering if you folks had any good AAMPS.

[QUOTE=Cienega32]Well, actually my post was titled AAMPS not AMPS. All I've found mentioned was AMPS. I was wondering if you folks had any good AAMPS.[/QUOTE]
This ain't the West Coast, Las Vegas or even East Coast cities like NY or Boston with large Asian immigrant populations. You see very few if any Asian provider ads in CL, Weekly Planet, Night Moves or any of the other traditional media outlets for Tampa. If you haven't seen anything about a bunch of Korean or any other Asian women operating out of an apartment in this or similar forums anywhere in the Tampa Bay area, there is probably a reason. Of course there may be something operating way under the radar that I don't know about (I'm certainly no expert), particularly as AAMPs tend to be much more discrete than their storefront counterparts any way. However, I somehow don't think that so many of our local brothers would be frequenting our current crop of AMPs with their overpriced CBJ's and such or still mourning the loss of the Osaka AMP if there was something else better out there.

[b]OTOH[/b], if there IS some AAMP out there with decent quality Asian women and reasonable prices, I would hope that we handle it a lot more discretely than we handled Osaka and share the info backchannel through PMs between established posters rather than bringing it to the attention of our over zealous local law enforcement personnel and the puritanical southern bible thumpers that push them to action.

[QUOTE=Cienega32]Well, actually my post was titled AAMPS not AMPS. All I've found mentioned was AMPS. I was wondering if you folks had any good AAMPS.[/QUOTE]


And the difference would be???? BFD!

[QUOTE=Eye Myt]And the difference would be???? BFD![/QUOTE]
Only main difference is one is a storefront that usually offer a 50-50 chance on a good and usually overpriced experience and the other is an apartment filled with eager FS Asian girls that offer no pretense about you getting a massage.

[QUOTE=Chase Star] [b]OTOH[/b], if there IS some AAMP out there with decent quality Asian women and reasonable prices, I would hope that we handle it a lot more discretely than we handled Osaka and share the info backchannel through PMs between established posters rather than bringing it to the attention of our over zealous local law enforcement personnel and the puritanical southern bible thumpers that push them to action.[/QUOTE]That's what I was hoping to see but I can see your points on all accounts - lack of Asian providers and the LEO/Morals thing.

Of course we all know that once they rid the country of this heinous crime, flowers will be blooming, rainbows will be brighter and the world will sing a happy song in unison.

Thanks folks, for the info (and the names of your reading materials) - just thought I would take a shot!

[QUOTE=Cienega32]Only main difference is one is a storefront that usually offer a 50-50 chance on a good and usually overpriced experience and the other is an apartment filled with eager FS Asian girls that offer no pretense about you getting a massage.[/QUOTE]

Coming from LA, I can tell you that AAMP's are abundant in the San Gabriel Valley of Los Angeles where there is a substantial Korean and Chinese population. I have not seen or heard of any AAMP's in Central Florida, but would be happy if I did.

[QUOTE=BoatDriver]Coming from LA, I can tell you that AAMP's are abundant in the San Gabriel Valley of Los Angeles where there is a substantial Korean and Chinese population. I have not seen or heard of any AAMP's in Central Florida, but would be happy if I did.[/QUOTE]
Ever try Mimi of "Fire&Ice" fame in Alhambra a few years back? Wow...

[QUOTE=Cienega32]Ever try Mimi of "Fire&Ice" fame in Alhambra a few years back? Wow...[/QUOTE]

I did a couple of fire and ice sessions at a couple of the Alhambra aamps about two-three years ago. They were something else! There was another one in WLA, Ji Young, who did it with very cold vanilla ice cream.....

Gonna be in Tampa Sunday. Can someone PM me a good place to go now that Osaka is staying closed (I guess anyway).

Quite a surprise to see Osaka advertising in today's newspaper.

[QUOTE=Irish Male2]Quite a surprise to see Osaka advertising in today's newspaper.[/QUOTE]

Just when I thought my Busch Gardens annual passports would be useless other than Howl-O-Scream discounts, I see this. I had to check the Tribune website to make sure that I was not being led on and was so happy to see the ad for myself. I might finally have a reason to come down to Tampa next month during my vacation.

Enough said about Osaka! - Let's keep this quiet. Tina used to give me a back walk that was amazing!

[QUOTE=Mrmrmr]Enough said about Osaka! - Let's keep this quiet.[/QUOTE]How are you going to keep it quiet? It was in the frickin' NEWSPAPER, man! Do you think the cops are illiterate? They can't read the paper?

When they drive by the sign will be on and cars will be in the lot. Do you think they won't see because they are blind?

Or what?

Use some analytical reasoning. We can't keep information from the police. They ALWAYS know more about what is going on than the mongers do.

It has been shown many times that busts are not made due to INFORMATION, as the police always have information. They decide to act for [b]POLITICAL[/b] reasons, when it best serves their objective for the moment.

Let's not get started on another secrecy binge here. It defeats the purpose of the board and accomplishes absolutely nothing.

DB

[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]How are you going to keep it quiet? It was in the frickin' NEWSPAPER, man! Do you think the cops are illiterate? They can't read the paper?

When they drive by the sign will be on and cars will be in the lot. Do you think they won't see because they are blind?

Or what?

Use some analytical reasoning. We can't keep information from the police. They ALWAYS know more about what is going on than the mongers do.

It has been shown many times that busts are not made due to INFORMATION, as the police always have information. They decide to act for [b]POLITICAL[/b] reasons, when it best serves their objective for the moment.

Let's not get started on another secrecy binge here. It defeats the purpose of the board and accomplishes absolutely nothing.

DB[/QUOTE]


Don't get your panties in a wad! I was being sarcastic.

BUT, since you brought it up here is a respose in kind...

Use your brain -

1 - I am CERTAIN the legal services advertised in the NEWSPAPER will be DIFFERENT than are discussed HERE. Advertise for legal services all day long - LE can't do a thing.

2 - You CAN in fact keep information from the police (please don't ask me to explain how - it's not that hard)

3 - Try to use some analytical reasoning - OF COURSE busts are made due to information (what are you thinking?) Zero information = Zero busts (ever here the term "under the radar"?)

I agree that many busts are politically motivated but let's use some common sense here - oh, and be respectful to each other.

I wheeled in there this afternoon. Open sihn is on. There were 4 other trucks in the back lot. They would not open the back door like they used to. Had to walk around to the front. Went in and was greated by an ok looking korean girl. She looks kinda like the LMT girl at Pine Tree. She said I had to wait 30 minutes. I did have that much time for lunch.

Anyone else try it today?

[QUOTE=Irish Male2]Quite a surprise to see Osaka advertising in today's newspaper.[/QUOTE]

Whatever the case, we know it (probably) won't be the same old Osaka. Although we all know the [i]real[/i] reason Osaka got busted, the "official" reason was "unlicensed practice of healthcare profession". In other words, they didn't have massage licenses.

Massage licenses are expensive, time consuming to get, etc. If Osaka hires only licensed therapists, it's going to jack up the price of all their services.

Then again, perhaps they figured that the storm has blown over, and it'll be back to business as usual. I hope that's the case here.

I am glad to hear that your statement was meant with sarcasm. Unfortunately that doesn't always translate accurately in print. I apologize that my comments felt personal to you.

No disrespect was intended. I'd probably like you if I met you!

But you pretty much undermine your own point by in fact arguing once again for secrecy. You can't have it both ways.

It is one thing if you are going to keep your own secrets, but whenever someone encourages others to do so, that hurts us all. I'll challenge it every time.

So while reading the following comments, everyone can judge for themselves if they make sense or not. Don't take them personal, okay?

[QUOTE=Mrmrmr]1 - I am CERTAIN the legal services advertised in the NEWSPAPER will be DIFFERENT than are discussed HERE. Advertise for legal services all day long - LE can't do a thing.[/QUOTE]LE certainly can't do anything about what is said here either. This is not legal "evidence" of anything.

Not that LE cares much about following the law, as they choose to do what they damn well please, evidence or not.

But discussing it here won't change a thing. Osaka was well documented on this board for many years before the cops moved in. If what we said here mattered, what the hell took them so long?

[QUOTE=Mrmrmr]2 - You CAN in fact keep information from the police (please don't ask me to explain how - it's not that hard).[/QUOTE] Not this kind of information you can't. They know where every MP is, every corner where SW are, etc.

Just imagine for a minute if we had the resources that LE does. Suppose you and I could monger full-time, and get paid to do it, without any fear whatsoever of arrest. When we went home for the night someone would take our place and in the morning they would report to us what they learned in our absence.

We had all of the resources of the government at our disposal. We could run background checks, pull up arrest records, search credit reports, utility records, driver's licenses, addresses, phone numbers, etc. We had a network of thousands just like us who we could trust to share information with us.

Don't you think we would be the first to know what is going on in the community before anyone else does?

Well, that describes the assets that LEO has at its disposal.

Not to mention the ability to offer deals to drop charges, or even pay cash dollars for information. I have personally seen a detective offer a citizen $200 cash to answer a few questions.

If anyone thinks for a minute that LEO doesn't know every what is going on simultaneously or before we do, they are living in a dream world!

I hope that no one is so egocentric to think that we are giving away any secrets on this board. We are not.

Is anyone delusional enough to think that we are so clever we can find a provider or AMP that delivers, but the police are so stupid that they cannot unless they happen to read about it here?

[QUOTE=Mrmrmr]3 - Try to use some analytical reasoning - OF COURSE busts are made due to information (what are you thinking?) Zero information = Zero busts (ever here the term "under the radar"?).[/QUOTE]This statement is about 180 degrees off course. So I will spell out the point: It is incredibly naive to think for a minute that LE has actually has ZERO information. The opposite is true. They have far more information than any of us will ever have.

Remember, it was in the NEWSPAPER. They know Osaka is open again. They probably knew it was happening long before it hit the newspaper.

They will bust it again when they feel like, whether that is in the next week or in three years. Nothing we say mattered before, and it won't matter now. That's because they have all the information they need if and when they want to do anything about it.

Our best hope as mongers is to pull together and share as much information with each other as we can. That we maybe we can all get a little while the getting is good.

The police love it if we keep secrets. It makes their job easier. They don't even have to lift a finger if we don't know where we can get laid. Divide and conquer wins every time.

Obvously, the very presence of anyone who comes here shows how valuable it is for us mongers to exchange information. If it didn't work out for our benefit instead of the benefit of LE, none of us would bother with this board in the first place.

Remember how excited you were when you first found out that this information was available online??? It was like the scales fell off our eyes.

For those of us old enough to remember what mongering was like before the internet, this is a godsend! So let's don't screw it up by keeping secrets.

Sharing information improves the possibilities for each of us. That is why Jackson undertook to run this board. So that we can all be enlightened.

Read the FAQ:

[b][red]The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.[/red][/b]

Respectfully,

DB

What are the odds that Osaka has reopened as some kind of sting operation? I doubt it, but it's possible. I certainly plan to check it out anyway, but I'm going to keep my eyes open and be a bit cautious. Such things have happened before, though not in Tampa as far as I know.

I just called Osaka. A woman -- I assume the mama-san -- answered. I asked who was working, and she said (in a strong Korean accent), "We're under new management. Just come on in!"

"Under new management" does not sound promising to me. I think Osaka will be just another massage + HR place now. :( I suspect, however, that it's new management and not a new owner.

Well, I'm going to take one for the team within the next couple days.

Before Osaka became THE Osaka, Yoshiko was one of the happenings AMPs in town. Like Osaka, they also fell prey to the medical treatment without a license thing. When they reopened, the old girls were all gone and the newbies were very paranoid for a few weeks until they got settled in. On my first visit all I got was HR and a nervous one at that.

My advice, keep expectations low and go with the flow. But remember the girls work for tips ;^)

Stopped in at Osaka when I saw the open sign lit. All new people Kim has retired(I was told) by May 30 something cute. like all amps massage and Happy ending. We will see if it gets better!

TM, it sounds like the folks on both sides of the exchange might be a bit wary in the beginning until we know whats up - the mongers that go there and the girls themselves. You don't know if its a sting but I kinda doubt it. We also don't know if the same level of service will be on the menu or if it is will be at the same price. And the girls don't know if they will get busted again. could happen right away or it might not happen again for a while. They'll have better confidence after they've been open a while and nothing happens.

DB, don't jump on me but I sort of know where both you and mrmrr are coming from. I'm sure the cops had a pretty good idea what was going on at Osaka long before they ever busted them, whether from this board or from other sources. The posts on this board may not qualify as legal evidence but it is another source that might point them in the direction of where the greatest activity is happening and where they should target with an undercover operation to get the legal evidence to charge them. So why did they choose to bust Osaka when they did? I think it was political pressure but, and this is just a thought for discussion purposes, this board may have had some indirect impact on that. The places that are nothing more than overpriced jack shacks don't seem to get busted because they don't generate enough business to really attract any neighborhood attention. OTOH, places like Osaka, either because they DO offer a good deal and therefore generate lots of business and/or the fact that they offer such a good deal gets publicised on boards like this and in turn they become highly popular attracting lots of traffic. All that public coming and going then leads to the political pressure that causes the police to act to shut them down. Does that mean we shouldn't post about it? I'm not saying that, but you see the conundrum. Maybe the answer is to keep the more graphic details backchannel through PM's or something. but if the place really does wind up as good as it was I don't really see how that will keep it from eventually becoming the high traffic spot it was. One thing I do know is this... no one tell Newbie about this.

Chase,

I can appreciate your balanced approach. Nonetheless, I think some facts will help bring the matter into better focus.

I hope the members here will evaluate the following data with an open mind.

The AMP scene has never been as well developed over in Orlando as it is in Tampa. Nonetheless, in March nine AMPs were busted. Of those nine, eight had never once been mentioned on this board in the past six months!

The one that was mentioned had two innocent comments:

1. It appears to be legitimate.
2. It was locked up.

There were 24 other AMPs that were mentioned on the board, ranging up to a high of 20 posts for the most popular one. Yet none of these 24 were busted.

So if this board has any influence on who LE decided to bust, why were 8 of the 9 establishments busted not mentioned on here, and 24 of the 25 mentioned here not busted?

Here is a link to the full report, as quoted by Jackson, along with his comments:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=514821&postcount=369[/url]

And of course, anyone can go read the Orlando AMP thread from September to March and see for himself that my statements are accurate.

Okay, that is one pretty thorough study that is directly related to this board, and based on factual data. I am confident that similar studies in other cites would likely bear the same results.

It is also a fact that there were literally hundreds of reports here on Osaka over many years LONG before anything went awry. That makes a pretty strong case that this board didn't have anything to do with the fact the LE finally decided to close it down some years later.

BTW, Chase, I will be visiting your favorite destination next month. No worries about being busted in Costa Rica, that's for sure!

DB

[QUOTE=Max Doubt]Stopped in at Osaka when I saw the open sign lit. All new people Kim has retired(I was told) by May 30 something cute. like all amps massage and Happy ending. We will see if it gets better![/QUOTE]

Hey Max - have the prices changed?

Went to Osaka tonight. I got a [b]GREAT[/b] massage, but beyond that it was completely worthless. Sorry, but HJs just don't do it for me. Man I miss Tina.

[QUOTE=Mrmrmr]Sorry DB I still disagree. Never said they have [b]zero info[/b][/QUOTE]Are you related to my first ex-wife? Man, I wish I had this quote function when I was married! She was always trying to twist her way out of what she had said just the day before.

[QUOTE=Mrmrmr]2 - You CAN in fact [b]keep information from the police[/b] (please don't ask me to explain how - it's not that hard)

3 - Try to use some analytical reasoning - OF COURSE busts are made due to information (what are you thinking?) [b]Zero information = Zero busts[/b] (ever here the term "under the radar"?)[/QUOTE]In your world, how would they have information to make busts, since it is not that hard to keep it from them? And you did say that zero information = zero busts. We can all add 2+2 to get 4.

I suppose you also have some twisted logic to explain that your words don't mean what they say. No need to belabor the point any further. The contradictions speak for themselves.

At any rate, let's stick to the point, to wit: It is both ridiculous and self-defeating to think that by keeping secrets from the members of this board will have any impact on whether of not someone or some place gets busted.
[QUOTE=Mrmrmr]Don't get your panties in a wad! I was being sarcastic.
[/QUOTE]Oh, that's right. You don't even really believe what you wrote. You were just being sarcastic.

Never forget: [b][red]The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.[/red][/b]

DB