Seeking Arrangement Girls

I've had some decent success on Secret Benefits. Case in point, received a message from a young (24) hottie yesterday. She was so aggressive about meeting up right away that I was certain it was a catfish situation. We agreed to meet for a drink tonight to see if there is mutual interest in an arrangement. I purposely picked a bar near my place still believing nobody would show up. I arrived at the bar and she texted me that she was 2 minutes away. She asked what car I was in and I didn't want to say, so I let her know I was waiting at the entrance. She asked me to come out to the parking lot. Sure as shifting she was the girl in the pics. Hot as fuck and wasn't interested in a drink at all. Hopped in her car and we found a quiet spot and it was game on. I'm still fucking pinching myself. It's definitely a numbers game, but if you're patient good things can happen.

[QUOTE=Quodesh2013;6393119]I've had some decent success on Secret Benefits. Case in point, received a message from a young (24) hottie yesterday. She was so aggressive about meeting up right away that I was certain it was a catfish situation. We agreed to meet for a drink tonight to see if there is mutual interest in an arrangement. I purposely picked a bar near my place still believing nobody would show up. I arrived at the bar and she texted me that she was 2 minutes away. She asked what car I was in and I didn't want to say, so I let her know I was waiting at the entrance. She asked me to come out to the parking lot. Sure as shifting she was the girl in the pics. Hot as fuck and wasn't interested in a drink at all. Hopped in her car and we found a quiet spot and it was game on. I'm still fucking pinching myself. It's definitely a numbers game, but if you're patient good things can happen.[/QUOTE]Damn I might need to sign up for that. Is there a membership fee? And what was the damage for the meet?

I have travelled frequently to the PX area, mainly on business trips and have some good success with SA girls for the quality / cost. Definitely have had 8's and 9's on several occasions and even a 10, that I will give a full report when I get a chance. But for today I will give a short report of a gem that is still active on SA.

Stargemm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/52920985-91c7-41d1-af34-f3379ae92e34[/URL]

Before one of my trips to the area, I chatted with her and she was willing to meet when I was in town, but her condition her friend come along (and also be given allowance 500). I mentioned in a recent post in another city that I do enjoy threesomes but they are a bit overrated. Nonetheless after she sent me additional pics of her and her stunner blonde friend via text, I could not resist and decided despite the total cost, I needed to tap both blondes (both ASU girls). And when they showed up, in person they were even better than the pictures. She was 20 at the time and her friend 21.

We setup the date at a nice rooftop lounge at a modern hotel near downtown phoenix that I was staying at and we sipped on cocktails before started taking tequila shots. I had asked them also what they liked to drink (Tequila) and had picked up a bottle at the local liquor store so we could continue our fun in my hotel room. Great time chatting with them and the atmosphere was great vibing and I was ready for a threesome a la Wild Things. We proceeded to the room and continued with tequila shots and we got all naked and they started sucking hard on my cock while I was drinking tequila straight from the bottle. Stargemm (Maddie) started to ride me while I was DATY on her gorgeous friend. While riding me I could feel her squirting all over my cock (love that feeling when all the hot juice goes down my shaft and my balls). The other one I alternated between DATY and finger blasting her pussy and asshole. She started also masturbating herself and groaning while she was intensely watching her friend ride my cock. After several change of positions and pounding it came time for both of them to get on their knees and for me to blow my load on their open mouth and beautiful faces.

Overall experience 9/10 (only negative was they wanted for me to pay them before we did anything in the room, which I completely declined at first but to not ruin the mood I did take the money out and put in the counter so they would feel more comfortable, luckily it all turned out well).

Looks in person 8.5/10 and 9/10.

BBBJ with CIM, CIF, BBFS. My guess is CIP would have been ok since she was riding me so hard, she was a bit surprised I hadn't cum yet. I was keeping it for them to share however as I previously mentioned. I did not try or ask for anal.

Total cost: $1 K plus drinks. That drained my budget for a while but mongering memories for a lifetime. WIR: yes, but not with both due to budget constraints. If I was based in PX I would for sure have added Maddie to my SB stable and seen her more often, but unfortunately my trips did not take me as often as I wanted to the PX area. So this was only a catch and release for me.

[QUOTE=MikeELikes;6398639]Damn I might need to sign up for that. Is there a membership fee? And what was the damage for the meet?[/QUOTE]You have to purchase credits and pay for the first message you send or receive. I think the minimum purchase for a block of credits is $100. My donation for the date was $300. I would have given her $500.

It's a total waste of time and money. I tried it and bought points in order to message the girls. Not one response. Many who messaged me first all are scammers. You are much better off with seeking n wyp

[QUOTE=Peacekeeper;6399820]It's a total waste of time and money. I tried it and bought points in order to message the girls. Not one response. Many who messaged me first all are scammers. You are much better off with seeking n wyp[/QUOTE]Totally agree. SB might be the best one.

[QUOTE=GermanOwl;6399048]I have travelled frequently to the PX area, mainly on business trips and have some good success with SA girls for the quality / cost. Definitely have had 8's and 9's on several occasions and even a 10, that I will give a full report when I get a chance. But for today I will give a short report of a gem that is still active on SA.

Stargemm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/52920985-91c7-41d1-af34-f3379ae92e34[/URL]

Before one of my trips to the area, I chatted with her and she was willing to meet when I was in town, but her condition her friend come along (and also be given allowance 500). I mentioned in a recent post in another city that I do enjoy threesomes but they are a bit overrated. Nonetheless after she sent me additional pics of her and her stunner blonde friend via text, I could not resist and decided despite the total cost, I needed to tap both blondes (both ASU girls). And when they showed up, in person they were even better than the pictures. She was 20 at the time and her friend 21.

We setup the date at a nice rooftop lounge at a modern hotel near downtown phoenix that I was staying at and we sipped on cocktails before started taking tequila shots. I had asked them also what they liked to drink (Tequila) and had picked up a bottle at the local liquor store so we could continue our fun in my hotel room. Great time chatting with them and the atmosphere was great vibing and I was ready for a threesome a la Wild Things. We proceeded to the room and continued with tequila shots and we got all naked and they started sucking hard on my cock while I was drinking tequila straight from the bottle. Stargemm (Maddie) started to ride me while I was DATY on her gorgeous friend. While riding me I could feel her squirting all over my cock (love that feeling when all the hot juice goes down my shaft and my balls). The other one I alternated between DATY and finger blasting her pussy and asshole. She started also masturbating herself and groaning while she was intensely watching her friend ride my cock. After several change of positions and pounding it came time for both of them to get on their knees and for me to blow my load on their open mouth and beautiful faces.
ately my trips did not take me as often as I wanted to the PX area. So this was only a catch and release for me.[/QUOTE]Did the friend fuck?

How has everyone's success rate been recently? Just restarted my account yesterday and I'm getting much fewer replies to messages than I did last November-December. Was it just easier then due to girls needing extra money for the holidays? Is there a seasonal trick to Seeking for our area based on high season, weather, or the amount of snowbirds? I don't recall getting more hits in July despite the horrid weather and fewer people in town due to the snowbird exodus. And one would think the college girls would have more free time in the summer! Anyway, the site has always been flakey and a challenge, but with the deluge of messages I sent to gals yesterday I thought surely it shouldn't be this hard. I didn't modify my profile either and had boost active even.

This is going to be fun to write. I had the pleasure of visiting your beautiful city for work. Unfortunately, my long term SB decided to end things, so I have been saving my allowances for this trip. I decided to fill all possible waking hours with pleasure. Here's how it went.

BuxomBrunette - 44 year old MILF.

I met up with BB for drinks the evening I flew in. We shared a couple cocktails and retired to my room. Once the door closed, the clothes flew off. She is a 5'5", busty MILF with a little tummy. But oh was she sensual. She was definitely the most GFE of the group. Her BBBJ was phenominal and the way she orgasamed nearly squeezed me out. This overnight rendezvous ended at 7 am when she had to retreat for work.

This is the time where I did go to an AMP and see a pro. Both have been reviewed extensively and my experience is the same as those reviews.

Gorgeousgirl123 - 23 year old dancer.

Oh my God, she is hot. Her ass is perfect, and she took direction well. That's about the extent of the good. She wasn't quite a dead fish, but close. Her little moans were hot though. This encounter lasted 3 hours and I used as much time as possible touching that hot body.

Charliesub - 28 year old submissive.

She literally asked me permission to do anything,*including to get an uber to come see me. Definitely submissive in all aspects. She was my good girl all night. She liked it rough, dirty, and was down for whatever daddy wanted. This overnight date ended at 6 am when I had to catch a plane back home.

Couple key takeaways:

1. Treat them with respect. All three commented on creeps who would message them. Treat them like a real person, and they will do dirty things for you. You wouldn't walk up to these women in person and say, "how much for a BBBJ?" so don't do it on the website. They know why you're there, but they still want to be respected.

2. All of the correspondence*started at least 1 week before I even set foot in Arizona. If you take the time to get to know them at least a little bit, they're more comfortable and open minded.

3. All of the dates started with at least 2 drinks at the bar. The bartenders loved me. The women loved me even more when I spent an extra $20 on them.

4. The money I spent on each is irrelevant. One of the ladies said to keep my money, and another said they'd come back another night if I just paid for an uber. I like variety, so I didn't partake in that.

5. I won't trade numbers. Do your own research.

Honorable Mention:

Phxfoxx - 30 year old throat goat.

This gorgeous woman was willing to spend 3 hours worshiping me. It was that time of the month, and I don't play that way but she was willing to please me any other way necessary. I didn't partake because I was looking for the full package but she was very eager to please.

Gianna - 45 year old nymph.

This woman was willing to sext with me for the entire week, but once I landed in Phoenix, she decided to not meet. If her texts were true, she is a wild one and based on my research, that's likely. Good luck to those who meet her. This is the only one I don't have a picture of, as she deleted her account due to "creepy guys". Really? Come on now.

LoLovexo - 31 year old waitress.

She is super nice and personable. Willing to please. We had plans to see a sporting event followed by an overnight stay with wild intentions. She bailed on me and texted me the following day stating she left her phone in an uber. She tried to reschedule but I don't like flakes and already had plans with Charliesub.

I've been curious about SA, but never taken the dive. Last I checked they had a credit / coin / point system to send messages? Anyone want to run a clinic or progressive on how the site works and best practices? I don't mind dropping the coin, I just want to have a little head start on the website functionality tip.

[QUOTE=BobWilliams696;6419605]This is going to be fun to write. I had the pleasure of visiting your beautiful city for work. Unfortunately, my long term SB decided to end things, so I have been saving my allowances for this trip. I decided to fill all possible waking hours with pleasure. Here's how it went.

BuxomBrunette - 44 year old MILF.

I met up with BB for drinks the evening I flew in. We shared a couple cocktails and retired to my room. Once the door closed, the clothes flew off. She is a 5'5", busty MILF with a little tummy. But oh was she sensual. She was definitely the most GFE of the group. Her BBBJ was phenominal and the way she orgasamed nearly squeezed me out. This overnight rendezvous ended at 7 am when she had to retreat for work.

This is the time where I did go to an AMP and see a pro. Both have been reviewed extensively and my experience is the same as those reviews.

Gorgeousgirl123 - 23 year old dancer.

Oh my God, she is hot. Her ass is perfect, and she took direction well. That's about the extent of the good. She wasn't quite a dead fish, but close. Her little moans were hot though. This encounter lasted 3 hours and I used as much time as possible touching that hot body.

Charliesub - 28 year old submissive.

She literally asked me permission to do anything,*including to get an uber to come see me. Definitely submissive in all aspects. She was my good girl all night. She liked it rough, dirty, and was down for whatever daddy wanted. This overnight date ended at 6 am when I had to catch a plane back home.

Couple key takeaways:

1. Treat them with respect. All three commented on creeps who would message them. Treat them like a real person, and they will do dirty things for you. You wouldn't walk up to these women in person and say, "how much for a BBBJ?" so don't do it on the website. They know why you're there, but they still want to be respected.

2. All of the correspondence*started at least 1 week before I even set foot in Arizona. If you take the time to get to know them at least a little bit, they're more comfortable and open minded.

3. All of the dates started with at least 2 drinks at the bar. The bartenders loved me. The women loved me even more when I spent an extra $20 on them.

4. The money I spent on each is irrelevant. One of the ladies said to keep my money, and another said they'd come back another night if I just paid for an uber. I like variety, so I didn't partake in that.

5. I won't trade numbers. Do your own research.

Honorable Mention:

Phxfoxx - 30 year old throat goat.

This gorgeous woman was willing to spend 3 hours worshiping me. It was that time of the month, and I don't play that way but she was willing to please me any other way necessary. I didn't partake because I was looking for the full package but she was very eager to please.

Gianna - 45 year old nymph.

This woman was willing to sext with me for the entire week, but once I landed in Phoenix, she decided to not meet. If her texts were true, she is a wild one and based on my research, that's likely. Good luck to those who meet her. This is the only one I don't have a picture of, as she deleted her account due to "creepy guys". Really? Come on now.

LoLovexo - 31 year old waitress.

She is super nice and personable. Willing to please. We had plans to see a sporting event followed by an overnight stay with wild intentions. She bailed on me and texted me the following day stating she left her phone in an uber. She tried to reschedule but I don't like flakes and already had plans with Charliesub.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheSunDevil;6419790]I've been curious about SA, but never taken the dive. Last I checked they had a credit / coin / point system to send messages? Anyone want to run a clinic or progressive on how the site works and best practices? I don't mind dropping the coin, I just want to have a little head start on the website functionality tip.[/QUOTE]There was a plethora of women on Seeking in Arizona. Ohio doesn't even compare.

Seeking is a monthly fee. Buy a month, stockpile phone numbers, and drop the subscription. It may take some time to work something out. Like I said, I spent at least a week talking to each woman prior to visiting. As I read by another user, Seeking is full of sugar babies and escorts. If you want escorts, you don't have to pay for seeking since they're on other sites. But if you want a real sugar baby, you will probably have to put in a little work.

Secret Benefits is a transactional website. You buy coins and use coins to message, see more pictures, etc. Do not use secret benefits. While I did find some of the same women on both sites, Secret Benefits is generally full of bots designed to make you use coins.

[QUOTE=BobWilliams696;6419839]There was a plethora of women on Seeking in Arizona. Ohio doesn't even compare.

Seeking is a monthly fee. Buy a month, stockpile phone numbers, and drop the subscription. It may take some time to work something out. Like I said, I spent at least a week talking to each woman prior to visiting. As I read by another user, Seeking is full of sugar babies and escorts. If you want escorts, you don't have to pay for seeking since they're on other sites. But if you want a real sugar baby, you will probably have to put in a little work.

Secret Benefits is a transactional website. You buy coins and use coins to message, see more pictures, etc. Do not use secret benefits. While I did find some of the same women on both sites, Secret Benefits is generally full of bots designed to make you use coins.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I'm ready to level up. I think the quality of "escorts" is really starting to deteriorate especially in places like ListC and EBabylon. AMPs are cool and all, but feel too transactional. Hoping for something more regular and scheduled, but casual.

Thanks for the info. Can you share the range or approximate damage? There are a ton of girls on SA that will be great and extremely responsive if someone is willing to put up a huge arrangement so while you say it's irrelevant I think it would be very helpful to know.

[QUOTE=BobWilliams696;6419605]This is going to be fun to write. I had the pleasure of visiting your beautiful city for work. Unfortunately, my long term SB decided to end things, so I have been saving my allowances for this trip. I decided to fill all possible waking hours with pleasure. Here's how it went.

BuxomBrunette - 44 year old MILF.

I met up with BB for drinks the evening I flew in. We shared a couple cocktails and retired to my room. Once the door closed, the clothes flew off. She is a 5'5", busty MILF with a little tummy. But oh was she sensual. She was definitely the most GFE of the group. Her BBBJ was phenominal and the way she orgasamed nearly squeezed me out. This overnight rendezvous ended at 7 am when she had to retreat for work.

This is the time where I did go to an AMP and see a pro. Both have been reviewed extensively and my experience is the same as those reviews.

Gorgeousgirl123 - 23 year old dancer.

Oh my God, she is hot. Her ass is perfect, and she took direction well. That's about the extent of the good. She wasn't quite a dead fish, but close. Her little moans were hot though. This encounter lasted 3 hours and I used as much time as possible touching that hot body..[/QUOTE]Well done my guy.

[QUOTE=BbwLvr;6421161]Thanks for the info. Can you share the range or approximate damage? There are a ton of girls on SA that will be great and extremely responsive if someone is willing to put up a huge arrangement so while you say it's irrelevant I think it would be very helpful to know.[/QUOTE]Typically the average PPM arrangement for our area is 400-600, but you can get lucky and convince a few girls to do 300. I wouldn't ask anything below that. When negotiating some girls start off saying "I don't go below _ " and rarely budge.

[QUOTE=BbwLvr;6421161]Thanks for the info. Can you share the range or approximate damage? There are a ton of girls on SA that will be great and extremely responsive if someone is willing to put up a huge arrangement so while you say it's irrelevant I think it would be very helpful to know.[/QUOTE]I did 400 for 3 hours with gorgeousgirl123 and less than double that for each overnight.

[QUOTE=BobWilliams696;6419605]This is going to be fun to write. I had the pleasure of visiting your beautiful city for work. Unfortunately, my long term SB decided to end things, so I have been saving my allowances for this trip. I decided to fill all possible waking hours with pleasure. Here's how it went.

BuxomBrunette - 44 year old MILF.

I met up with BB for drinks the evening I flew in. We shared a couple cocktails and retired to my room. Once the door closed, the clothes flew off. She is a 5'5", busty MILF with a little tummy. But oh was she sensual. She was definitely the most GFE of the group. Her BBBJ was phenominal and the way she orgasamed nearly squeezed me out. This overnight rendezvous ended at 7 am when she had to retreat for work.

This is the time where I did go to an AMP and see a pro. Both have been reviewed extensively and my experience is the same as those reviews.

Gorgeousgirl123 - 23 year old dancer.

Oh my God, she is hot. Her ass is perfect, and she took direction well. That's about the extent of the good. She wasn't quite a dead fish, but close. Her little moans were hot though. This encounter lasted 3 hours and I used as much time as possible touching that hot body.

Charliesub - 28 year old submissive.

She literally asked me permission to do anything,*including to get an uber to come see me. Definitely submissive in all aspects. She was my good girl all night. She liked it rough, dirty, and was down for whatever daddy wanted. This overnight date ended at 6 am when I had to catch a plane back home.

Couple key takeaways:

1. Treat them with respect. All three commented on creeps who would message them. Treat them like a real person, and they will do dirty things for you. You wouldn't walk up to these women in person and say, "how much for a BBBJ?" so don't do it on the website. They know why you're there, but they still want to be respected.

2. All of the correspondence*started at least 1 week before I even set foot in Arizona. If you take the time to get to know them at least a little bit, they're more comfortable and open minded.

3. All of the dates started with at least 2 drinks at the bar. The bartenders loved me. The women loved me even more when I spent an extra $20 on them.

4. The money I spent on each is irrelevant. One of the ladies said to keep my money, and another said they'd come back another night if I just paid for an uber. I like variety, so I didn't partake in that.

5. I won't trade numbers. Do your own research.

Honorable Mention:

Phxfoxx - 30 year old throat goat.

This gorgeous woman was willing to spend 3 hours worshiping me. It was that time of the month, and I don't play that way but she was willing to please me any other way necessary. I didn't partake because I was looking for the full package but she was very eager to please.

Gianna - 45 year old nymph.

This woman was willing to sext with me for the entire week, but once I landed in Phoenix, she decided to not meet. If her texts were true, she is a wild one and based on my research, that's likely. Good luck to those who meet her. This is the only one I don't have a picture of, as she deleted her account due to "creepy guys". Really? Come on now.

LoLovexo - 31 year old waitress.

She is super nice and personable. Willing to please. We had plans to see a sporting event followed by an overnight stay with wild intentions. She bailed on me and texted me the following day stating she left her phone in an uber. She tried to reschedule but I don't like flakes and already had plans with Charliesub.[/QUOTE]<claps claps thank you! Very well listed and shared, thanks for showing some light, I'm sure we will partake as AMPs get busy, moreover these sites give options to have more personalized GFE experience. Good to know that there are ladies who are willing to please.

Newbie question sorry in advance!

Thanks for the great reports lately, planning to get into the game shortly. Just wanted to check and see how / when payments are made? Like anything else in this hobby of ours there are tons of scammers etc, is it the same gameplan here where you do not provide any deposits and do cash only upon arrival to the date? Or do most of the SB require something upfront to meet?

Just trying to avoid early on mistakes. Any other key advice for someone looking to begin this type of arrangement (I. E identifying bots vs real people, things you wish you did at the beginning, etc)? Already have a basic account on SA and planning to go "premium" in the next week or so.

[QUOTE=AManatee;6423797]Newbie question sorry in advance!

Thanks for the great reports lately, planning to get into the game shortly. Just wanted to check and see how / when payments are made? Like anything else in this hobby of ours there are tons of scammers etc, is it the same gameplan here where you do not provide any deposits and do cash only upon arrival to the date? Or do most of the SB require something upfront to meet?

Just trying to avoid early on mistakes. Any other key advice for someone looking to begin this type of arrangement (I. E identifying bots vs real people, things you wish you did at the beginning, etc)? Already have a basic account on SA and planning to go "premium" in the next week or so.[/QUOTE]Here is my routine:

1. For all dates, I check to see if their phone number is a real number or VOIP. If VOIP, that's a non-starter for me. In my experience, women with a VOIP number are hiding something, which usually leads to untruths, which can lead to scammers. There may be wonderful women to spend time with who have a VOIP number, but there are plenty who don't.

2. I do my research to make sure their internet presence matches their pictures they have shared. This is easily done with non-VOIP numbers. If I can't find anything, I don't invite them to my place, and we stick to a neutral location or their place.

3. Payment depends on how the prior research went. With long term SB's, it's never discussed after the first couple meetings. It just happens. For those first couple meetings, I'll usually leave an envelope in the restroom with their allowance. But only if the research went well. If the research didn't turn anything up, I'll hand the allowance to them at the end.

4. Unless the provider / SB has real reviews from trusted sources, deposits are always a scam.

5. Some SBs require a meet and greet prior to any fun being had, and request payment. This isn't something I do, but I know others who do this. Putting the allowance in a greeting card is the usual etiquette for that scenario. I'll buy drinks and dinner, but won't provide any additional funds on top of that unless it heads to a private location.

In AZ for the past 2 weeks, leaving end of this week so I thought I'd recap my visit for you guys. This subforum has been a bit dry but nice to see the forum's been getting warmer over the last month or 2. But I can agree with previous posts here that the hit rate on actually linking with someone from seeking is 5%.

Confirmed past find.

Poisonivy.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/194d404c-8d46-47eb-8083-5905a0bc7441[/URL]

Small petite Latina with golden blond hair, true spinner (about 5'0 and about 100 lbs). I had messaged her probably a month or 2 prior after seeing the previous review luckily she messaged back in the time I was here. Within the span of 3-4 hours transitioned from SA to text to snap for verifying. I was in Scottsdale and she got from her place in Tempe to mine in about 30 minutes after verifying. BBFS (tight and naturally wet p), cip, BJ was barely ok but understandable as she had braces. Asked for $4, agreed at $3.5 but gave her $3 and even that I had to remind her to take her cash.

Ezra.

Blocked her on snap and seeking as she got annoying. So unfortunately I can't provide her link. But if you search Ezra in Tempe there's only two hits, she is the white girl and is 24. She wanted $200 for platonic and $600 intimate, managed to get her to come to dinner at Kabuki for free after 2 weeks of hit and miss messaging on snap. (BTW Kabuki sucks and I could really use some sushi recommendations in the Phx area). Anyways she was talking some wild shit at dinner about her life and background, while she was clearly already cross faded. She made it evident she's kind of been ran through as she grew up in an East coast inner city as a white girl. I didn't want to experience a hot dog down the hallway situation, but for this board I stuck it out and confirmed some details. I got her to agree to BBFS and cip with a plan B and got her down to $450 but wasn't able to get lower without arguing. So there is potential for even lower than that. Couldn't bring myself to go through with it as she smelled like sweat and slight b. O. She wanted to come back with me but I made an excuse got out of there and called the lady above.

Flakes.

Pretty princess.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6cbb03a6-f0b1-469a-9499-1933582cf9bc[/URL]

This chick is a headcase nothing pissed me off quite like dealing with her. She changed her number 3 times in the span of a 1.5 weeks of me trying to connect with her. Obviously text app bs but could potentially be scamming? I had to constantly go back to SA to ask for her new number. She wanted $6 and laughed at my counter of $4, so I agreed with the intention of negotiating in person. She told me on 5 separate days she was headed my way after I told her my rough location only for her to message an hour or 2 later and saying something came up. The 5th time she didn't even message me back and left me hanging and I have yet to to get a message back from her via text or SA.

[QUOTE=Fudgsicle;6425608]A trio of reviews.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the reviews. You obviously play this game well, but you have confirmed my choice not to ever get into SA. It sounds like the prizes there are hot and made of unobtanium (at least for a ghoul like myself.) but at this stage in my life in the hobby, I can no longer stand an ounce of BS from these women. If ya want to hear the other side of it, reddit has a sex worker section. But hey don't talk about ripping us guys off there. Thanks again for the great report.

[QUOTE]=Fudgsicle;6425608]Id.

Poisonivy.



Small petite Latina with golden blond hair, true spinner (about 5'0 and about 100 lbs). [/QUOTE]Thanks for the info on this one, I have been messaging her but haven't had the time to close. I will move her up my list.

[QUOTE]Pretty princess.


She wanted $6 and laughed at my counter of $4, so I agreed with the intention of negotiating in person. [/QUOTE]Has been reviewed here under a different profile. I messaged her a while back, offered 300 and she refused. Saw the review here and had to try again. Got her to 350, had her over. She is cute, has a good body and a tight pussy. BBFS, she was surprised at how long I took and then annoyed when I came inside. At times she seemed like a sweet girl but is definitely getting jaded. We agreed to future sessions at 3 and then she vanished. I would definitely do her again if I got her under 4.

Going to be making a visit to Phx end of the month / early June. Hopefully going to have some good intel / reports from my adventures. Stay tuned.

[QUOTE=Fudgsicle;6425608] But I can agree with previous posts here that the hit rate on actually linking with someone from seeking is 5%.

[/QUOTE]Do you think the hit rate is also seasonal? I'm getting much fewer replies to messages than I did last November-December.

[QUOTE=MyDixieWrecked;6426701] You obviously play this game well, but you have confirmed my choice not to ever get into SA. It sounds like the prizes there are hot and made of unobtanium (at least for a ghoul like myself.) but at this stage in my life in the hobby, I can no longer stand an ounce of BS from these women.[/QUOTE]I think you're being too hard on yourself. If when you say "ghoul" you're referring to looks I'm not attractive either, but I still have decided not to completely discount SA. I would say all mongers should give SA a try at least once. You never know if you'll like it, prefer it to regular pros, or just want to add a girl or two to your regular rotation. I think the site is a YMMV case. If I'm honest my experiences there aren't particularly good or even in the same league as Fudgsicle or BobWilliams696. It can be a challenge! I usually send out so many messages and get very few replies back. I once thought it was just a numbers game so I one time sent out so many initial messages to various girls that the site temporarily froze my account from sending messages. SA thought I was a spam account! They unfroze it after I contacted tech support, but even after all the messages I sent I still had a fairly quiet inbox! It very well could be similar to regular dating sites where it's about 90% of the women are taken by just 10% of the best looking or wealthiest guys. The "Sugar Bowl", as they call this scene, is supposedly competitive! I have been too ashamed to even post my lackluster reports from SA. I read that it helps immensely on SA if guys have profile photos that are attractive (nice face, muscles) and show off their wealth (cars, vacations abroad, etc). Regardless, I still say mongers should give it a shot. At the very least you might be able to snag a UTR / low volume semi-pro! I occasionally snag a girl there, typically average looking, but tighter than pros so it can be a nice change of pace.

[QUOTE=KingStannis;6438249]Do you think the hit rate is also seasonal? I'm getting much fewer replies to messages than I did last November-December.

I think you're being too hard on yourself. If when you say "ghoul" you're referring to looks I'm not attractive either, but I still have decided not to completely discount SA. I would say all mongers should give SA a try at least once. You never know if you'll like it, prefer it to regular pros, or just want to add a girl or two to your regular rotation. I think the site is a YMMV case. If I'm honest my experiences there aren't particularly good or even in the same league as Fudgsicle or BobWilliams696. It can be a challenge! I usually send out so many messages and get very few replies back. I once thought it was just a numbers game so I one time sent out so many initial messages to various girls that the site temporarily froze my account from sending messages. SA thought I was a spam account! They unfroze it after I contacted tech support, but even after all the messages I sent I still had a fairly quiet inbox! It very well could be similar to regular dating sites where it's about 90% of the women are taken by just 10% of the best looking or wealthiest guys. The "Sugar Bowl", as they call this scene, is supposedly competitive! I have been too ashamed to even post my lackluster reports from SA. I read that it helps immensely on SA if guys have profile photos that are attractive (nice face, muscles) and show off their wealth (cars, vacations abroad, etc). Regardless, I still say mongers should give it a shot. At the very least you might be able to snag a UTR / low volume semi-pro! I occasionally snag a girl there, typically average looking, but tighter than pros so it can be a nice change of pace.[/QUOTE]To piggyback off of this, looks help some. I'm told I'm handsome, but I don't have abs. I don't flaunt my wealth in my pictures but I dress well and clean myself up for my pictures. Proper attire can make most look good. Also, verifying your account helps. Willing to video chat is even better. All of the women I talked to had issues with guys not representing themselves properly. Verified accounts, video chats or even phone calls go a long way to ease their nerves.

Aside from that, seeking is 100% a numbers game. On any given night, in my neck of the woods, there are maybe 30 girls on seeking. When I was in Phoenix, the same search turned up 3-400. You best believe I copy and pasted the same message to each and every one of them. Sure, some of them werent the best looking, but I weeded those out. Of those several hundred, I ended up with a handful of possibilities. Some were too expensive and some weren't interested.

I'm moving from Minnesota to Phoenix this summer and am eager to dive into the sugar bowl out there. Thanks to all who've posted reports recently; they've given me a good start. I'd be grateful for any other recommendations you may have, and would be happy to trade scoop on SBs here.

My hard requirements are BBFSCIP, 35 or under, no bolt-ons, no baby damage, and no flab. Nice-to-haves include tall and/or slender, unshaven, no/minimal ink, and modelesque looks. Stargemm and Charliesub, mentioned earlier, are both in my wheelhouse while Stephmor ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb869e97-a6a6-4312-9b54-659b59dce388[/URL]) is a essentially a perfect 10 IMO.

I'll be in town for a scouting trip over the next week and look forward to meeting at least a couple SBs while there. I look forward to contributing more soon.

Hey guys, hope this intel saves you all some time! Seeking is very time consuming to weed through the flakes, message girls, and finally get a meetup so I am sharing girls that are "ready to go" on the PPM front. Would love if more could do the same to save us mongers time there. The time investment often feels akin to a part-time job haha. More PPM reports please! Also, as an aside please guys make sure to haggle with Seeking girls to stop the GPS inflation! Intel:

LovelyLinguist.

28 year old graduate school educated blonde. I could've sworn her profile said 29 years old previously so she is probably frauding her age and could very well be in her early 30's.

She's open to meeting for PPM. Just know I did a M&G for lunch to vet her first so I am unsure if you can bypass that with her and just go right to a NSA meetup. My guess is since she's intelligent, has been on SA awhile, and carrys herself confidently you have to at least meetup with her first in a non intimate way. So I would not recommend just messaging outright for a PPM. I was quoted a PPM of 600 via texting after our M&G. I tried to negotiate lower. She declined so I passed on her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5e7b6530-636e-4787-8be5-8fd4a385a831[/URL]

Nelly.

21 year old Latina.

Nelly is straight to the point and after we exchanged numbers she immediately texted that she does 300 PPM. She does refuse to meet in public and will only see you at your place. I have not met up with her yet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0e9eafed-dd26-46a5-9f13-04a0604ae12e[/URL]

Pretty princess.

21 year old fierce cutie. She is another girl that will save you the time of having to M&G as she is solely up for private FWB meetups meaning the "fun stuff" and not the fake wine and dine chitchat before the crescendo! As for damage she gave a range of how much guys have been giving her. Got her down to a PPM of 400. Definitely a fun girl in the sack as she moans and has a hot body to compliment her cute face. I did CFS (didn't ask for BBFS) and had a good time.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6cbb03a6-f0b1-469a-9499-1933582cf9bc[/URL]

Thanks so much for your post, Stannis. I've been busy working on leads for a trip I have coming up in early June. I'll tell you one thing for sure. GPS is in full effect. I remember coming to AZ before the pandemic and BBFSing hot ASU girls for $100-$200 for a few hours. Now, these girls who rate no more than a 7 out of 10 are asking for 400+. INSANE. That GPS+Inflation really making things harder than they need to be.

My goal is to keep girls at $300 or under with BBFS in mind.

Here's a lead for now:

JadeStar.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4e4f2ba3-db1d-4166-a0cc-b4871bdef26b[/URL]

Wants to grab a drink to see if we 'vibe' - god I hate that fucking word. She's cool with $300.

[QUOTE=KingStannis;6446021]Hey guys, hope this intel saves you all some time! Seeking is very time consuming to weed through the flakes, message girls, and finally get a meetup so I am sharing girls that are "ready to go" on the PPM front. Would love if more could do the same to save us mongers time there. The time investment often feels akin to a part-time job haha. More PPM reports please! Also, as an aside please guys make sure to haggle with Seeking girls to stop the GPS inflation! Intel:

LovelyLinguist.

28 year old graduate school educated blonde. I could've sworn her profile said 29 years old previously so she is probably frauding her age and could very well be in her early 30's.

She's open to meeting for PPM. Just know I did a M&G for lunch to vet her first so I am unsure if you can bypass that with her and just go right to a NSA meetup. My guess is since she's intelligent, has been on SA awhile, and carrys herself confidently you have to at least meetup with her first in a non intimate way. So I would not recommend just messaging outright for a PPM. I was quoted a PPM of 600 via texting after our M&G. I tried to negotiate lower. She declined so I passed on her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5e7b6530-636e-4787-8be5-8fd4a385a831[/URL]

Nelly.

21 year old Latina.

Nelly is straight to the point and after we exchanged numbers she immediately texted that she does 300 PPM. She does refuse to meet in public and will only see you at your place. I have not met up with her yet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0e9eafed-dd26-46a5-9f13-04a0604ae12e[/URL]

Pretty princess.

21 year old fierce cutie. She is another girl that will save you the time of having to M&G as she is solely up for private FWB meetups meaning the "fun stuff" and not the fake wine and dine chitchat before the crescendo! As for damage she gave a range of how much guys have been giving her. Got her down to a PPM of 400. Definitely a fun girl in the sack as she moans and has a hot body to compliment her cute face. I did CFS (didn't ask for BBFS) and had a good time.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6cbb03a6-f0b1-469a-9499-1933582cf9bc[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Scotty8783;6446661]Thanks so much for your post, Stannis. I've been busy working on leads for a trip I have coming up in early June. I'll tell you one thing for sure. GPS is in full effect. I remember coming to AZ before the pandemic and BBFSing hot ASU girls for $100-$200 for a few hours. Now, these girls who rate no more than a 7 out of 10 are asking for 400+. INSANE. That GPS+Inflation really making things harder than they need to be.

My goal is to keep girls at $300 or under with BBFS in mind.

Here's a lead for now:

JadeStar.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4e4f2ba3-db1d-4166-a0cc-b4871bdef26b[/URL]

Wants to grab a drink to see if we 'vibe' - god I hate that fucking word. She's cool with $300.[/QUOTE]Yea, I read that before about the old rates in our area on this board! In fact it may have been an older post of yours. Multiple pages back mongers were saying how the rates as recent as a few years ago used to be 100-200 PPM and that a lot of girls were satisfied to just "hang with daddy. " I would've thought post-COVID the rates wouldn't jump so much since our economy hasn't fully recovered and due to inflation affecting the cost of food and housing so the girls should be needing the money and settling for reasonable rates, but I think what's happened is a lot of California transplants have increased PPM rates. I say that as no disrespect to anyone from California, but yea I think that might be playing a role since guys are used to paying more in the Bay Area or LA. I was reading the LA sugaring thread and they were saying the PPM is getting high there and if the PPM is reaching 1000 there then 400-600 in Phoenix is still a good deal from their Californian perspective.

Hey guys,

If you're looking for girls that can host I've discovered a few.

Olivia.

Gorgeous 26 year old blonde. This girl is "traveling" and will be in Phoenix 5/15-20. It took a lot of texts to finally get her to open up about meeting up, her schedule availability, and a PPM rate. I'm not sure why Olivia was so tight-lipped and vague with her texts since Olivia's profile gives off pro or semi-pro vibes and even jokes that her profession is a "welder. " My guess is she sells adult pics or is a cam girl that is dabbling in the scene, but is hesitant. Olivia said she can host and I got her PPM down to 500. Really want to see her before she leaves town, but I'm a bit skeptical of going to her spot. Currently, trying to set up an initial M&G. As for the skepticism, I cross referenced her number and I couldn't find any professional ad listings. Also, a reverse image search of her photos yielded no adult content or urls despite her Seeking photos looking like they belonged on an adult site or Tryst! So this girl is a bit of a mystery to me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/36ac16b4-aca1-49dd-b940-daaec6cd3892[/URL]

Bbyalexa.

23 year old cute "mixed" brunette that looks like she has either Asian or Latin in her. The pictures on her profile are really hot! She's very anxious to meetup going as far as immediately giving me her number after I sent my initial message on the SA website. After I texted bbyalexa she requested a photo of myself (typical pro move for screening) and she repeatedly asked when I was available. The constant texting almost made me want to block her. Her insistence is probably a red flag that maybe this girl has a handler and needs to get so many clients a day or something. Or maybe she's just a provider that is using SA and hates weeding through guys that are flakes or want a real sugarbaby to dote over. Regardless, her pics are very attractive in the face and body department, which has me tempted to TOFTT! Keep in mind if you decide to M&G she requires an additional 150 fee whereas if you just meet at her hosting spot you only pay the PPM rate of 500. Bbyalexa said she is also open to coming to your place, but the initial visit must be her hosting. Have not met her yet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5cb34377-883d-4dac-afe3-128790daabde[/URL]

Neveah03.

23 year old Latina that looks to be a spinner. As far as her style, one of Neveah's photos on SA is semi-nude and another photo looks like she is in a stripper / professional dancer's locker room. I have not seen her yet, because she looks kind of trashy and wants a PPM of 400, and an extra 100 if she hosts. I feel like you see ads of girls that look like her all the time on EB, but for 300 so I think she's a bit overpriced.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e30af2af-5dd3-4e92-b466-ee3e1a6a0f86[/URL]

Anyway, I hope this post saves you time prospecting! Definitely, want to bite the bullet and get another actual encounter soon so I can share how these girls perform in the bedroom, but damn there are just so many hurdles to even get to that point (schedules aligning, negotiating PPM, texting, etc) that often I'm just finding myself circling back to regular pros since they're less time intensive and come with REVIEWS.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/af257d66-0d54-4fb0-9dbf-4e2b5acc63d7[/URL]

On my recent trip to Phoenix, I connected with LoLovexo. She was very communicative throughout the day of our meeting and into the evening, and basically knew she was on standby if the SB I'd originally lined up fell through. After waiting more than an hour for my original date, I told LoLove I was heading back to my resort; she replied that she could be there in 20 minutes, which wasn't far off.

I found her very engaging, a great conversationalist, and worldly wise. I could have talked with her a lot more before getting down to business, but it was already late when she arrived. She initially wanted to use protection, but after a little discussion basically talked herself out of it. She immediately requested that I not come inside her however, offering her face instead. I neither agreed to nor rejected that request.

Sex was good; nothing earth shattering, but solid and repeatable at her 300-400 ask. After pounding her for a considerable amount of time, she surprisingly asked if I wanted to come in her, which of course I did. Right afterward however, she got up and said she needed to go because she had to work in the morning. She didn't even wait for her Uber to show up before leaving; I sensed that she wanted to bolt ASAP. We briefly discussed potentially meeting again later in the week, but neither of us reached out to do so.

I found her face quite attractive. I think she's a touch heavier than her pics suggest, but they're a solid representation of her appearance. I was glad she didn't have a lot of ink, with the one tattoo I noticed not objectionable in my opinion. Based on the ending however, I doubt I'll see her again.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1275e1c1-79c8-4848-adaa-94a6abf3a636[/URL]

Recently visited PHX to see family and messaged this one, but she didn't respond. Anyone talk to her or get that yet? She's gorgeous, nice full lips.

If she responds I'd definitely fly back just to take a crack at it.

[QUOTE=KingStannis;6450449]Hey guys,

If you're looking for girls that can host I've discovered a few.

Olivia.

Gorgeous 26 year old blonde. This girl is "traveling" and will be in Phoenix 5/15-20. It took a lot of texts to finally get her to open up about meeting up, her schedule availability, and a PPM rate. I'm not sure why Olivia was so tight-lipped and vague with her texts since Olivia's profile gives off pro or semi-pro vibes and even jokes that her profession is a "welder. " My guess is she sells adult pics or is a cam girl that is dabbling in the scene, but is hesitant. Olivia said she can host and I got her PPM down to 500. Really want to see her before she leaves town, but I'm a bit skeptical of going to her spot. Currently, trying to set up an initial M&G. As for the skepticism, I cross referenced her number and I couldn't find any professional ad listings. Also, a reverse image search of her photos yielded no adult content or urls despite her Seeking photos looking like they belonged on an adult site or Tryst! So this girl is a bit of a mystery to me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/36ac16b4-aca1-49dd-b940-daaec6cd3892[/URL]

Bbyalexa.

23 year old cute "mixed" brunette that looks like she has either Asian or Latin in her. The pictures on her profile are really hot! She's very anxious to meetup going as far as immediately giving me her number after I sent my initial message on the SA website. After I texted bbyalexa she requested a photo of myself (typical pro move for screening) and she repeatedly asked when I was available. The constant texting almost made me want to block her. Her insistence is probably a red flag that maybe this girl has a handler and needs to get so many clients a day or something. Or maybe she's just a provider that is using SA and hates weeding through guys that are flakes or want a real sugarbaby to dote over. Regardless, her pics are very attractive in the face and body department, which has me tempted to TOFTT! Keep in mind if you decide to M&G she requires an additional 150 fee whereas if you just meet at her hosting spot you only pay the PPM rate of 500. Bbyalexa said she is also open to coming to your place, but the initial visit must be her hosting. Have not met her yet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5cb34377-883d-4dac-afe3-128790daabde[/URL]

Neveah03.

23 year old Latina that looks to be a spinner. As far as her style, one of Neveah's photos on SA is semi-nude and another photo looks like she is in a stripper / professional dancer's locker room. I have not seen her yet, because she looks kind of trashy and wants a PPM of 400, and an extra 100 if she hosts. I feel like you see ads of girls that look like her all the time on EB, but for 300 so I think she's a bit overpriced.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e30af2af-5dd3-4e92-b466-ee3e1a6a0f86[/URL]

Anyway, I hope this post saves you time prospecting! Definitely, want to bite the bullet and get another actual encounter soon so I can share how these girls perform in the bedroom, but damn there are just so many hurdles to even get to that point (schedules aligning, negotiating PPM, texting, etc) that often I'm just finding myself circling back to regular pros since they're less time intensive and come with REVIEWS.[/QUOTE]Olivia looks exactly like a girls I follow on Ig who is also a welder.

Hey everyone, I'm new to the bowl. There was an account that created today that favorited me w / out viewing my profile. Usually I don't pay attention to those, but the location did say Prescott and the pic was pretty cute. Sent her a message and we were both looking for the same thing and took things to Whatsapp. We agreed on PPM amount and to meet at a hotel on Thursday. She did send a face pic, but when I asked for a picture of her holding up 3 fingers she blocked me on SA and hasn't responded.

It's a little suspicious that she didn't want to MG first, I brushed that off as driving from Prescott wanting to get right into it. Not sure what I did wrong or if I avoided a scammer?

[QUOTE=TommyWong;6474212]Hey everyone, I'm new to the bowl. There was an account that created today that favorited me w / out viewing my profile. Usually I don't pay attention to those, but the location did say Prescott and the pic was pretty cute. Sent her a message and we were both looking for the same thing and took things to Whatsapp. We agreed on PPM amount and to meet at a hotel on Thursday. She did send a face pic, but when I asked for a picture of her holding up 3 fingers she blocked me on SA and hasn't responded.

It's a little suspicious that she didn't want to MG first, I brushed that off as driving from Prescott wanting to get right into it. Not sure what I did wrong or if I avoided a scammer?[/QUOTE]First of all. The favoriting without viewing is a major red flag.

Additionally, the 3 finger request is just a visual confirmation. For the most part, anyone unwilling to do this is most likely scamming.

I think you dodged a bullet. Keep on fishing.

[QUOTE=TommyWong;6474212] It's a little suspicious that she didn't want to MG first, I brushed that off as driving from Prescott wanting to get right into it. Not sure what I did wrong or if I avoided a scammer?
[/QUOTE]I'd bet money on that being a scammer. You did nothing wrong. When girls don't want a M&G the vetting process is even more essential via picture / video verification and for the girl to opt out of flashing fingers is a huge red flag. That and like TheSunDevil mentioned a favorite without her even viewing your page is suspicious. I understand your suspicion about her not wanting a M&G, but those girls are usually my favorite as they're "ready to go. " Definitely, proceed with caution however!

[QUOTE=TheSunDevil;6474235]First of all. The favoriting without viewing is a major red flag.

Additionally, the 3 finger request is just a visual confirmation. For the most part, anyone unwilling to do this is most likely scamming.

I think you dodged a bullet. Keep on fishing.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the feedback. You guys were right. Even though she blocked me I can still see a bit of her profile from SA email and she changed her location to Provo, UT. Was probably going to ask for $100 for gas money.

What kind of pictures do you post on your profile? I know without pictures, not many girls will reply to my messages, but don't want my wife to find out about my profile.

[QUOTE=XtremeCold;6494146]What kind of pictures do you post on your profile? I know without pictures, not many girls will reply to my messages, but don't want my wife to find out about my profile.[/QUOTE]You can make your profile picture (or all pictures) private and when you send the first message to a girl you can share that picture with her so she can then see who messaged her. You can remain hidden on the search and dashboard so anyway you will not be shown, even if you do not have a subscription.

[QUOTE=XtremeCold;6494146]What kind of pictures do you post on your profile? I know without pictures, not many girls will reply to my messages, but don't want my wife to find out about my profile.[/QUOTE]You could always upload a normal pic that you blur out for your public pic and then the un-blurred photo as a private pic.