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Hey everybody,
I'm a newbie who is trying to link up with a beautiful lady, but am having difficulty getting anyone to respond back to me. Any tips for on who I should reach out to or how I should? I'm located in Virginia Beach.
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/virginia/richmond/female-escorts/1526683[/URL]
Starting to wonder when chicks like this started to gain traction in the game. I mean sure the pics look good, but 3 hundo for the hour with no greek, no daty and no BBJ. So in other words your probably paying for a dead fish that just lays there until you finish and then hints that it's time for you to go. Only guessing that it's no MSOG, but could be wrong. No Greek is understandable, usually an uncharge for that, but confusing because she has a video up on the profile with a butt plug inserted. Mongers we got to stop letting these hookers dictate the market. IDK about everyone else, but 3 hundred Washington's is a lot to part ways with for lackluster services.
[QUOTE=DaVinciB1;4604097][URL]https://adultsearch.com/virginia/richmond/female-escorts/1526683[/URL]
Starting to wonder when chicks like this started to gain traction in the game. I mean sure the pics look good, but 3 hundo for the hour with no greek, no daty and no BBJ. So in other words your probably paying for a dead fish that just lays there until you finish and then hints that it's time for you to go. Only guessing that it's no MSOG, but could be wrong. No Greek is understandable, usually an uncharge for that, but confusing because she has a video up on the profile with a butt plug inserted. Mongers we got to stop letting these hookers dictate the market. IDK about everyone else, but 3 hundred Washington's is a lot to part ways with for lackluster services.[/QUOTE]Chicks like these slowly emerged after the end of the great BP era. They aren't necessarily trying to put much effort into working to making money, they are more so looking to con suckers out of as much money as possible. 3 jacksons used to be fair for a for qv from an average or below girl with ok services, but now there are fat and ugly girls asking for a min of 4 jacksons for poor quick services. The fact of the matter is now these girls always feel like there is a sucker somewhere who will pay this price with no problem. The Golden age is gone and all we are left with is a bunch of girls with a F*ed mindset, and new uninformed mongers who don't know any better messing up the game.
I have been doing this for a few years, and I can say with certainty that things changed for the worse after backpage was removed. Prior to that I had many sessions with young cute women who gladly removed their clothing for a mutual massage. FS did happen on occasion and mic skills were demonstrated. I even had relationships with sex for no money with a few women. Most providers now are older but they do have surgery to look younger. I am amazed that new shops continue to open and I am curious if the Chinese government is at the base of this situation. A lot of money goes back to China with the same story, old parents and children to take care of. I don't know but it is a form of trafficking because when their tourist visa runs out, they must stay underground for possibly decades, shame. Interesting question is by using them, do we, help or hurt them. If you get a good one, get her personal number. By the way, the money for these girls is huge even for a mediocre worker, An industrious worker will easy make 100,00 a year plus. Good hunting.
[QUOTE=CasualMale1030;4640475]I have been doing this for a few years, and I can say with certainty that things changed for the worse after backpage was removed. (snip) I don't know but it is a form of trafficking because when their tourist visa runs out, they must stay underground for possibly decades, shame. Interesting question is by using them, do we, help or hurt them. If you get a good one, get her personal number. By the way, the money for these girls is huge even for a mediocre worker, An industrious worker will easy make 100,00 a year plus. Good hunting.[/QUOTE]Yeah, in Paris they can specify rates and specific acts (50 euro for sodomie", for example) and users can post reviews and it's pretty straightforward. I never had a disappointing experience (other than a couple of girls who said they could speak English, but turned out to be just barely) and the quality was far, far better than it is here.
As for the AMP girls, I've connected with a few. One moved to Pennsylvania to be closer to her son, Two moved to New York because it was easier to get a business license without a green card and she could open her own shop (which she just did), and Three is planning to get her own shop. All three of them have left a shop when they decided to, and traveled across the US when they felt like it. I'm not saying absolutely nobody is stuck doing something they hate, but news reports and politicians' statements about "it's all trafficking, it's awful, these poor women are being abused" are baloney.
[QUOTE=SwordKnight;4640919]Yeah, in Paris they can specify rates and specific acts (50 euro for sodomie", for example) and users can post reviews and it's pretty straightforward. I never had a disappointing experience (other than a couple of girls who said they could speak English, but turned out to be just barely) and the quality was far, far better than it is here.
As for the AMP girls, I've connected with a few. One moved to Pennsylvania to be closer to her son, Two moved to New York because it was easier to get a business license without a green card and she could open her own shop (which she just did), and Three is planning to get her own shop. All three of them have left a shop when they decided to, and traveled across the US when they felt like it. I'm not saying absolutely nobody is stuck doing something they hate, but news reports and politicians' statements about "it's all trafficking, it's awful, these poor women are being abused" are baloney.[/QUOTE]Agree with SwordKnight on this. I have, on only few occasions, run into a girl who seems more interested in getting it over than in making my visit end well. So maybe they don't want to be there. But most of the time, they are quick to offer or to tease well so you know they are into making you happy. I find it hard to believe that these girls are being trafficked.
If you have some spare reading time, have a look at this: [URL]https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ywak3j/asian-massage-parlors-with-happy-endings-give-these-sex-workers-a-decent-living[/URL].
That writer points out that there are many organizations that benefit from the media and politicians rants about trafficking at the AMPs.
Was scowering the net and ran across something interesting that a provider posted on her twitter. Seems like BP is back. Leave the m off of. Com.
Backpage. Co.
Seems like most of the ads are fake though. Thanks for heads up either way. Good to know.
[QUOTE=DaVinciB1;4775129]Was scowering the net and ran across something interesting that a provider posted on her twitter. Seems like BP is back. Leave the m off of. Com.
Backpage. Co.[/QUOTE].
Good to know. Thanks. Hopefully, the ads will get better as more providers hear about it. Right now, the layout looks a lot like City X Guide. Same ads in the exact same order, which leads me to believe that they're using a web-crawler to pull info from other sites. So, those girls aren't actually posting ads on that site.
JR.
[QUOTE=DaVinciB1;4775129]Was scowering the net and ran across something interesting that a provider posted on her twitter. Seems like BP is back. Leave the m off of. Com.
Backpage. Co.[/QUOTE]
Anyone seen this one?
[URL]http://virginia-beach.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/pornstartinkerbell/625224006890[/URL]
Hooker math is horrible. You can get HH for one-fiddy with one pop, add another one-fiddy for another pop, sooo that's 3 hundo for 2 pops in HH, or you could do the whole hr for 3 hundo but only one pop. Want another pop in that hour and it's another one-fiddy. Who falls for this shit?
[QUOTE=DaVinciB1;4786004]Anyone seen this one?
[URL]http://virginia-beach.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/pornstartinkerbell/625224006890[/URL]
Hooker math is horrible. You can get HH for one-fiddy with one pop, add another one-fiddy for another pop, sooo that's 3 hundo for 2 pops in HH, or you could do the whole hr for 3 hundo but only one pop. Want another pop in that hour and it's another one-fiddy. Who falls for this shit?[/QUOTE]No kidding and who would pay 1500 for 6 hrs with only 1 shot.
Was wondering if anyone has dreamed of this girl?
[URL]https://chesapeake.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/looking-for-good-company/361425771035[/URL]
[QUOTE=VBMax;4775427]Seems like most of the ads are fake though. Thanks for heads up either way. Good to know.
.[/QUOTE]Very slim out there. Nothing but crap ads with a sprinkle of a bad providers.
I haven't personally, but that ad makes me see nothing but red flags.
[QUOTE=NotAgainVa;4835223]Was wondering if anyone has dreamed of this girl?
[URL]https://chesapeake.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/looking-for-good-company/361425771035[/URL][/QUOTE]
She was around a few years ago. Lived in a house on GW Hwy in Ptown. Looked good and initially provided good service but went downhill fast with lots of drama.
Looks like the years haven't been kind.
Tread carefully.
[QUOTE=NotAgainVa;4835223]Was wondering if anyone has dreamed of this girl?
[URL]https://chesapeake.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/looking-for-good-company/361425771035[/URL][/QUOTE]
I've been watching Bodyrubshops for ads to see who is open. Guess what? Either the site has been hijacked by someone with a sick sense of humor or the site has gone the way of Backpage.
See attachment.
Where else do the local parlors advertise?
THAT'S MJ? Wow.
[QUOTE=Vbgent4u2c;4837661]She was around a few years ago. Lived in a house on GW Hwy in Ptown. Looked good and initially provided good service but went downhill fast with lots of drama.
Looks like the years haven't been kind.
Tread carefully.[/QUOTE]
I'd run across this lady calling herself Ashley, working mostly off of Snapchat, resembling a younger Kirstie Alley. She was responsive to messages, sent all kinds of pics, gave me a decent quote that wasn't tremendously out of the ordinary, and after some back and forth I finally had a chance set up a visit with her.
Red flag #1 should have been when she said she didn't take cash on the first visit due to a client assault / robbery. I cashapp someone on my regular rotation, so it wasn't a big deal. I told her I didn't do deposits though, which she said she didn't do either, and that she'd only collect when I was at her place.
She sent me her address, apartments off a well known road connecting Independence and Rosemont. I messaged her for the apartment number while doing my reconnoiter of the neighborhood and she sent me her cashapp username, saying she'd give me the number after I sent the payment. I repeated that I didn't do deposits, and got a paragraph back so quick that it had to be a copy / paste job, about how she needed the payment to guarantee her safety, she wasn't like the other girls, she was honest, blah blah blah, to which I replied with a blah blah BLOCKED. I've read too many sad stories on here to fall for that shit, if I'm going to end up back at home rubbing one out, I'm not paying some ***** for the opportunity. Too bad my regular lady took the holiday off, I'd have saved myself the time. Oh well.
Pass on this one brothers, stay safe out there.
[QUOTE=ZukRider;4862872]I'd run across this lady calling herself Ashley, working mostly off of Snapchat, resembling a younger Kirstie Alley. She was responsive to messages, sent all kinds of pics, gave me a decent quote that wasn't tremendously out of the ordinary, and after some back and forth I finally had a chance set up a visit with her.
Red flag #1 should have been when she said she didn't take cash on the first visit due to a client assault / robbery. I cashapp someone on my regular rotation, so it wasn't a big deal. I told her I didn't do deposits though, which she said she didn't do either, and that she'd only collect when I was at her place.
She sent me her address, apartments off a well known road connecting Independence and Rosemont. I messaged her for the apartment number while doing my reconnoiter of the neighborhood and she sent me her cashapp username, saying she'd give me the number after I sent the payment. I repeated that I didn't do deposits, and got a paragraph back so quick that it had to be a copy / paste job, about how she needed the payment to guarantee her safety, she wasn't like the other girls, she was honest, blah blah blah, to which I replied with a blah blah BLOCKED. I've read too many sad stories on here to fall for that shit, if I'm going to end up back at home rubbing one out, I'm not paying some ***** for the opportunity. Too bad my regular lady took the holiday off, I'd have saved myself the time. Oh well.
Pass on this one brothers, stay safe out there.[/QUOTE]Not proud, but I fell for it and lost $65. Was it near Thalia Garden Apartments / Spruce Court? Damn it!
I saw him (her? On Grindr of all places and was sucked in. It was almost immediately after I hit send on that damn deposit I realized I had screwed up.
Sure was. While I'm not happy that you got ripped off, I'm glad that my instincts were dead on. Sorry about your mishap man. Let it remind all of us that it never works.
Pretty sure I picked her up on Tinder or maybe Doublelist myself, she'd been in my burner SC for a while so I'm not 100% sure.
[QUOTE=Short2013;4868793]Not proud, but I fell for it and lost $65. Was it near Thalia Garden Apartments / Spruce Court? Damn it!
I saw him (her? On Grindr of all places and was sucked in. It was almost immediately after I hit send on that damn deposit I realized I had screwed up.[/QUOTE]
You pulled up next to me in my black mercedes sports car. I could tell you were upset that your girl ditched you and had me over. No sweat. I'm jot a white knight. Wonder if your on this site. Pm me. We should talk. Maybe get another plan together for this utr.
So this just caught my buddies attention. He'd be interested in higher quality than modern escorts on here but he don't want to go broke playing in the hobby. Any experiences? Heard stories of thirsty college kids doing more than escorts and like to know if it's talk or for real. Is it affordable or does it take too much time / money?
There's an entire section in the tidewater forum dedicated to SB / SD relationships.
JR.
[QUOTE=GAGuy2020;5119127]So this just caught my buddies attention. He'd be interested in higher quality than modern escorts on here but he don't want to go broke playing in the hobby. Any experiences? Heard stories of thirsty college kids doing more than escorts and like to know if it's talk or for real. Is it affordable or does it take too much time / money?[/QUOTE]
Anyone heard from her lately? I'm using the 757-743-XXXX number she sent out. No response.Thanks.
[QUOTE=ExNihilo;5145881]Anyone heard from her lately? I'm using the 757-743-XXXX number she sent out. No response.Thanks.[/QUOTE]Apparently she has gone dark again. Hopefully it is for the better.
RBD out.
Hope so too, I'd like to reconnect with her sometime. What a sweetie.
[QUOTE=RedBaronDaron;5146484]Apparently she has gone dark again. Hopefully it is for the better.
RBD out.[/QUOTE]
Had a interesting convo yesterday, texted a well known traveling filipina jewsee, I had seen her many times in the past but yesterday she got a big attitude about me texting from a "text app". I engaged with her about why was she so pissed and of course she goes into "protecting herself et et" I get it, I really do but we (the monger) must protect ourselves as well, one does not supersede the other. I have had this happen a few times now, girls refuse to engage because I am texting from an app weird thing is 9 out 10 times we are texting them on their text app. I refuse to give my real number to any of these ladies. What are your thoughts? OBTW, I did end up seeing Jewsee, railed her out for an hour, she used to be great, she is just average now I think she is over the game.
[QUOTE=ScottsMan17;5168413]I refuse to give my real number to any of these ladies. What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]As a precaution in case Uncle LEO dumps someone's phone log, I use a second phone I bought from Walmart using cash. The prepaid phone plan is also paid in cash and the email on the account is anonymous. Trying to save money I noticed that many of the carriers offer low cost 3 month introductory plans. Including a new SIM card. Just got a plan for 3 months unlimited text and calls with 1 GB data per month for $20. That means I will be getting a new number every 3 months. With that in mind, I don't really care who has my number. If it blows up too badly, I'll just get a new one.
I also use text apps and have often wondered why I get so few responses. It's like they know I'm using a text app. So, my question is how do they even know? Do they get a notification that I'm using an app?
JR.
[QUOTE=ScottsMan17;5168413]Had a interesting convo yesterday, texted a well known traveling filipina jewsee, I had seen her many times in the past but yesterday she got a big attitude about me texting from a "text app". I engaged with her about why was she so pissed and of course she goes into "protecting herself et et" I get it, I really do but we (the monger) must protect ourselves as well, one does not supersede the other. I have had this happen a few times now, girls refuse to engage because I am texting from an app weird thing is 9 out 10 times we are texting them on their text app. I refuse to give my real number to any of these ladies. What are your thoughts? OBTW, I did end up seeing Jewsee, railed her out for an hour, she used to be great, she is just average now I think she is over the game.[/QUOTE]
Only way I know they can tell is if they call the number. Should not say in text unless some third party app add some header. Never use your real phone. Girls that are crazy think they can call or text any time they want. Aya is a great example or always use a burner. Plus you are right, if they user burners so can we!
[QUOTE=ScottsMan17;5168413]Had a interesting convo yesterday, texted a well known traveling filipina jewsee, I had seen her many times in the past but yesterday she got a big attitude about me texting from a "text app". I engaged with her about why was she so pissed and of course she goes into "protecting herself et et" I get it, I really do but we (the monger) must protect ourselves as well, one does not supersede the other. I have had this happen a few times now, girls refuse to engage because I am texting from an app weird thing is 9 out 10 times we are texting them on their text app. I refuse to give my real number to any of these ladies. What are your thoughts? OBTW, I did end up seeing Jewsee, railed her out for an hour, she used to be great, she is just average now I think she is over the game.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JonnyRockett;5169534]I also use text apps and have often wondered why I get so few responses. It's like they know I'm using a text app. So, my question is how do they even know? Do they get a notification that I'm using an app?
JR.[/QUOTE]I think in Textnow (or another app that I can't remember) that you can show up as [EMAIL]757123X@textnow.com[/EMAIL]. But I think its like a 1 in 10 thing and if a girl calls you out on it, I'd say something like "LOL kinda dumb to use the real # for this. If we click maybe we can swap real #s" and carry the f**k on. I'd think texting apps would be the norm in this day and age.
[QUOTE=Nitehawk797;5169700]I think in Textnow (or another app that I can't remember) that you can show up as [EMAIL]757123X@textnow.com[/EMAIL]. But I think its like a 1 in 10 thing and if a girl calls you out on it, I'd say something like "LOL kinda dumb to use the real # for this. If we click maybe we can swap real #s" and carry the f**k on. I'd think texting apps would be the norm in this day and age.[/QUOTE]I use a text app and only one provider has complained. I said ok, bye. I've only given my real # to one provider and I have hers too.
Don't trust these girls and don't give out your real number. Don't trust them. If they don't like a hunter alp, then they're NOT worth seeing anyway. It's a good way to filter out drama
[QUOTE=Lex757;5170686]I use a text app and only one provider has complained. I said ok, bye. I've only given my real # to one provider and I have hers too.[/QUOTE].
Although I wish her the best, I'm missing her style. Any comparables out there? Where's Samantha, Kassidy or Charming Chasity when you need them? Thanks and stay safe.
Man I do miss her. Even my most off time with her was mind blowing.
[QUOTE=ExNihilo;5286800]Although I wish her the best, I'm missing her style. Any comparables out there? Where's Samantha, Kassidy or Charming Chasity when you need them? Thanks and stay safe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ZukRider;5286809]Man I do miss her. Even my most off time with her was mind blowing.[/QUOTE]I swapped messages with her recently, and she says she's out of the game.
I wish her the best, she's a treasure.
[QUOTE=SwordKnight;5286914]I swapped messages with her recently, and she says she's out of the game.[/QUOTE]
P411: P353717.
TER: 305670.
So I was looking on P411 to see if some talent popped up and low and behold I see that Mindy has an account now. I don't recall seeing her before, and I've been using P411 for about 5 or 6 years now. Anywho, if you are new to it or the area and use it don't fall for the bs. Providers can also link their TER or Eccie reviews to their P411 account, the ones that don't link their review accounts are usually hiding something like a bad reputation or bad reviews. Anywho, she's been pulling this upsell shit for years now, don't fall for it. Although you have to wonder who is funding it or keeping her in business because she's been at it so long even with the horrible reviews and reputation as the Queen of upselling. Below is part of a review she received on TER.
Review from TER 2018 "We go upstairs and I'm asked for the donation. $250. I started to go in for a touch and was told donation first. Give her the cash, she counts it, and the second she's done counting says to me "do you know the rules?
Got that fuck me moment we all get when we know we just got got.
Blow job would be another 200.
Sex would be 300".
https://adultsearch.com/virginia/virginia-beach/female-escorts/1115266
Hunt wisely.
That's insane. Who is paying these mortgage prices?
[QUOTE=DaVinciB1;5287496]P411: P353717.
TER: 305670.
So I was looking on P411 to see if some talent popped up and low and behold I see that Mindy has an account now. I don't recall seeing her before, and I've been using P411 for about 5 or 6 years now. Anywho, if you are new to it or the area and use it don't fall for the bs. Providers can also link their TER or Eccie reviews to their P411 account, the ones that don't link their review accounts are usually hiding something like a bad reputation or bad reviews. Anywho, she's been pulling this upsell shit for years now, don't fall for it. Although you have to wonder who is funding it or keeping her in business because she's been at it so long even with the horrible reviews and reputation as the Queen of upselling. Below is part of a review she received on TER.
Review from TER 2018 "We go upstairs and I'm asked for the donation. $250. I started to go in for a touch and was told donation first. Give her the cash, she counts it, and the second she's done counting says to me "do you know the rules?
Got that fuck me moment we all get when we know we just got got..[/QUOTE]