AMP Tips and Guidelines

I'm still reading the last page, but just wanted to say thank you to everyone for your feedback, and especially those who took the time to lay out all those helpful guidelines!!

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Real Lmt]The split in a spa is ridiculously low, many licensed and certified therapists only being paid $20/hr. On a $100 service. $20/hr. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Real Lmt]As for getting $40 for an hour-long massage AND a HJ. I feel really, really sorry for those women. What a desperate place they must be in to agree to such a thing. I imagine street-walkers with obvious drug habits must make more per hour than that. Wow.[/QUOTE]Why are you feeling sorry for women who are making twice what you just stated the licensed therapists are making?

[QUOTE=Nitescape]Why are you feeling sorry for women who are making twice what you just stated the licensed therapists are making?[/QUOTE]The $20 quoted as the LMT's split at some spas is [i]before[/i] the tip.

It looks like the $40 mentioned for the AMP worker providing also a HJ is the total she makes.

BTW, at the place I go for a professional massage, the split is 25/35 for an hour, and I leave a $10 tip.

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[QUOTE=Daka1]The $20 quoted as the LMT's split at some spas is [i]before[/i] the tip.

It looks like the $40 mentioned for the AMP worker providing also a HJ is the total she makes.

BTW, at the place I go for a professional massage, the split is 25/35 for an hour, and I leave a $10 tip.

D[/QUOTE]I might be misunderstanding, but you are confirming my point no?

$20-25 plus a $10 tip would be $35, compared to the AMP girl making $40.

I also wanted to ask, if that's the standard tip to leave for a legit massage?

I want to know because if I go to a place, and they are legit only, I guess I'm supposed to tip the girl?

If so, I'm wondering how much?

Any guidelines for tipping for legit service?

And if they are blatantly decoying as an extra place, I guess I don't need to tip at all?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Nitescape]Any guidelines for tipping for legit service?[/QUOTE]I think the standard tip is 15-20%. I usually tip $10 on a $60 professional massage, but have left $20 when the LMT was especially effective at alleviating a sore back; also tipped $20 during the holidays.

I would hope that people who go to resorts and spas that charge $100 and up for a massage would leave a tip in the range of 20-25%.

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I don't think you can compare the two. Even though the word "massage" is used by both, they each provide totally different services.

The so-called "extra" services provided by the AMP are sexual in nature and usually outside the law. Employees there can find themselves arrested, fined, jailed, etc. Their immigration status and lack of English makes them very vulnerable.

I think you have to distinguish between the owners of the AMP and the employees. The former make a lot more money than the "girls" do. I am under no illusions about the "glamourous" lives of AMP workers or the "piles of dough" they take home. I am not even sure that they get to keep all "their" tips. And if they don't like the work, they have few options open to them.

So, while there are exceptions and special circumstances, there's really no comparison between LMTs and AMP workers.

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[QUOTE=Daka1]I don't think you can compare the two. Even though the word "massage" is used by both, they each provide totally different services.

The so-called "extra" services provided by the AMP are sexual in nature and usually outside the law. Employees there can find themselves arrested, fined, jailed, etc. Their immigration status and lack of English makes them very vulnerable.

I think you have to distinguish between the owners of the AMP and the employees. The former make a lot more money than the "girls" do. I am under no illusions about the "glamourous" lives of AMP workers or the "piles of dough" they take home. I am not even sure that they get to keep all "their" tips. And if they don't like the work, they have few options open to them.

So, while there are exceptions and special circumstances, there's really no comparison between LMTs and AMP workers.

D[/QUOTE]Well at the risk of sounding contentious, the comment she made was -

"As for getting $40 for an hour-long massage AND a HJ. I feel really, really sorry for those women. What a desperate place they must be in to agree to such a thing. I imagine street-walkers with obvious drug habits must make more per hour than that. Wow."

Her point seems to be that they are making very low amount of money, and as even your posts point out, they aren't mostly making MORE than others.

She also seems to be saying, that it's a really tough thing, that they do a massage, AND (gasp) a HJ.

So the issues you raised, while they may be issues in some cases, are besides her point, at least from what I can see.

I see that a lot of thought was put into USTraveller's post about TIPS & Guidelines.

Great job!

There is one point, I feel, that may have been forgotten. When visiting an AMP for the first time, what are everyone's experiences/suggestions when it comes to:

A) callling ahead for an appointment, or

B) just showing up as a walk-in?

Which helps build a "trustworthy" and more relaxing experieince for all involved?

I been going to AMPs for over 10 years. Never really thought about the girls working there to much. Just would always ask for the new girl and have my fun. About a year ago that all changed. I went to my regular place that I had been going for about 3 years since it opened. I was always treated well there and knew the owner. I asked for the new girl as always. Yo-yo was her handle. I could tell something was different about her. After my session, which was wonderful, she said to me " I don't want to do this anymore". I said something stupid like " You can't quit I need you". The next time I went there she was off but was visiting for the day. She saw me and said she would look for me at the casino where I was staying. I didn't think to much about it, but later that night she saw me and her face lit up. She proceeded to hang out with me for most of the evening until the friends she was riding with had lost their money and wanted to go home. She came back a month later and asked for my cell number. She started calling me and texting me and our friendship began. She told me alot about her life. She came here with her family, but she is the only one who wanted to stay. A friend got her a job at an AMP as cook/cleaning lady. The owner then made her start going with customers against her will. She could speak little english at that time and felt she was trapped. She met a customer who she ended up married to for 5 years, they had a child, he cheated on her with a stripper and she left him. She had only been doing this for about six months again when I met her and the only reason she was doing it was to make enough money to go back to Korea, which she did in December of last year. We were boyfriend / girlfriend for about six months up until she left. I do believe she loves me and her friends tell me she wants to get back with me when she comes back to the USA. As far as money made in 1. 5 months she made 40K of which her cut was 20K. Her goal was to get another 30K in 2 months so she could have enough to get back to Korea. She will not be back until next year, some Visa issues to work out. I told her I would wait for her. Like I said she is the first one in over 10 years that got to me.

[QUOTE=Joe Bagodonuts]I been going to AMPs for over 10 years. .... Like I said she is the first one in over 10 years that got to me.[/QUOTE]

You may be interested in this thread I started about relationships with providers. Good luck with yours.

[url]http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=5356[/url]

As to a previous queston about being a walk up or making an appt. If this is your first time at that Spa it does not make much differance. If you heard about a special girl working there then it is best to make an appt.

I live in Houston and we have Spa's all over town. So you can stop by anytime.

How to build a trustworthy experience dependes on how you treat the lady. And remembe that she is a LADY. I don't care if she is 18 or 85. Treat her with respect. And your first time and next time shouldl be pleasent.

Saw a question about tips. Most of the RMT's or LMT's do not expect a tip. But remember, I said most. Don't know why. As to Spa girls I have used this rule of thumb for tipping. ANY extras require a tip. The more extras, the more the tip. I don't understand how a guy can expect to have massage with a happy ending AND expect to feel her up OR penetrate an orfice and expect to get by for a measely twenty or thirty buck tip. If I keep my hands to myself, I don't mind tipping $20. The more she and I do to/with each other the higher the tip. Stands to reason. Some Spa's down here quote a $50 door fee and a $100 tip. If you don't get FS demand your money back. So I also use that as my guide to tipping. I can go any place in town for $150 and get FS. I go in for a massage plus a little extra, I pay accordingly.

Just found this site yesterday. Some good info on it for Hobbist or monger (sp) as you call it on this board.

Happy hunting and ALWAYS stay safe.

[QUOTE=Joe Bagodonuts]I been going to AMPs for over 10 years. Never really thought about the girls working there to much. Just would always ask for the new girl and have my fun. About a year ago that all changed. I went to my regular place that I had been going for about 3 years since it opened. I was always treated well there and knew the owner. I asked for the new girl as always. Yo-yo was her handle. I could tell something was different about her. After my session, which was wonderful, she said to me " I don't want to do this anymore". I said something stupid like " You can't quit I need you". The next time I went there she was off but was visiting for the day. She saw me and said she would look for me at the casino where I was staying. I didn't think to much about it, but later that night she saw me and her face lit up. She proceeded to hang out with me for most of the evening until the friends she was riding with had lost their money and wanted to go home. She came back a month later and asked for my cell number. She started calling me and texting me and our friendship began. She told me alot about her life. She came here with her family, but she is the only one who wanted to stay. A friend got her a job at an AMP as cook/cleaning lady. The owner then made her start going with customers against her will. She could speak little english at that time and felt she was trapped. She met a customer who she ended up married to for 5 years, they had a child, he cheated on her with a stripper and she left him. She had only been doing this for about six months again when I met her and the only reason she was doing it was to make enough money to go back to Korea, which she did in December of last year. We were boyfriend / girlfriend for about six months up until she left. I do believe she loves me and her friends tell me she wants to get back with me when she comes back to the USA. As far as money made in 1. 5 months she made 40K of which her cut was 20K. Her goal was to get another 30K in 2 months so she could have enough to get back to Korea. She will not be back until next year, some Visa issues to work out. I told her I would wait for her. Like I said she is the first one in over 10 years that got to me.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. I always end up talking more than I probably should because I get nervous and I start talking when I get nervous. Last time with this korean girl. We talked after we were done and she mentioned an ex she had and her tone started to get sad. Didn't have much time so she didn't go into much detail. Sometimes I wonder about their story but I guess best not to get involved sometimes. Glad your relationship is working out.

When you are brought to your room should you start getting undressed or wait till they tell you to. You always have that short time between when you get in the room and when the girl who is going to give the massage comes?

Should I be undressing then or wait till I am told to?

[QUOTE=Rudesmack]When you are brought to your room should you start getting undressed or wait till they tell you to. You always have that short time between when you get in the room and when the girl who is going to give the massage comes?

Should I be undressing then or wait till I am told to?[/QUOTE]The the f'ing forum dude. This thread has answers to all of the questions you could ask.

Surprise, different places are different. Just do what feels good for you. If they don't like it they WILL tell you.

[QUOTE=Rudesmack]When you are brought to your room should you start getting undressed or wait till they tell you to. You always have that short time between when you get in the room and when the girl who is going to give the massage comes?

Should I be undressing then or wait till I am told to?[/QUOTE]