Rants, Raves & Opinions

[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;7258577]I have done so at all three this this year, (two of them in the past 6 weeks) plus two other shops connected to baoju, this month. However, because of the recent gushing posts over the past 6 weeks, and guys over paying, it would be difficult today at love and candy. I don't know if it's insecurity or lack of common sense, but either way it's unfortunate and it will only get worse if guys keep caving in. I choose to NOT be part of the problem. But I'll keep finding places with attractive girls with good attitudes for my usual rate. Did so last week at a place I have not visited in over a year. Instead of asking me where, consider my following suggestion:

Gentleman, there are over 200 choices in the metro area. Try someplace you have not been before, or have not been to in a while. Be willing to walk if you get a GPS attitude..[/QUOTE]Not trying to start shit so I want to get that out of the way. I've attempted to do what a lot of the vets suggested & mostly to no avail & I've walked away with my ball & went to another court the one place will say yes if one don't perspective & mostly no. I'm curious as a detailed individual from my science, and sports background of dudes getting an hr or whatever for $200. I'm curious to know how long is the massage for & the time they last (PAUSE LOL. Only for educational purposes based on many cats in her going at folks for "overpaying," and allegedly ruining it for others.).

I need details respectfully. On if cats also have rapport with said chicks or the places to go to to get $200 for an hr & I need to go to the same places & see the same chicks they say they see & I have for a lot. I'm a cat that will verify if said claim is true or not. Whether it's on claim of shop having young chicks or good looking chicks etc. From my experience mostly I haven't had the same success yall have had but to preference I am 4 months into this AMP shit whereas probably most of y'all senior members of vets are yrs into this AMP shit. I want to know context. Cause that happens for maybe very little folks & most pay more or whatever & I think that's on other shops that are good like Osaka for example that charges a flat rate of $250 for an hr. I'm sure these shops look at their competition & likely go based off that to a degree.

Not saying what you're saying can't happen to where if everyone banded together & demanded $200 for hr or no go that it wouldn't change. $70 house fee & $130 for tip is pretty reasonable. For me, I am willing to go as high as $240-260 but I'm in the range of $200-$240 for 30 minutes to an hr. Last time I got $200 for an hr was candy at nice spa 2 or so months ago. I've tried many times. I'm not going to go back & forth & then if they take it it may reduce overall service cause they feel cheated & that the customer is cheap etc. I do prefer to pay less ofc, but I don't mind giving up $240-260 & won't go past $260 for an hr. I generally do hh for $200 & always go over time no extra charge about 45-49 minutes, and at times 51 minutes. If one is found to be attractive to said AMP chick & their sex game is solid or elite I'm sure they won't keep track of time etc.

One can likely also know the non busy times & be able to get $200 for an hr. I'm sure they're other contexts like that, that can factor in or perhaps to be fair I'm not as firm enough or convincing enough idk and that you guys who do it are that's entirely possible to be fair. Either way it don't seem like it's adding up for a lot of us & for very few here that are seasoned AMP cats. My only suggestion would be as my homie I do is to tag along with seasoned vets & see how they talk to these AMP chicks & see what places & girls they go to, to get $200 for an hr. I've done it a few times before so I'm not doubting it can't ever happen. I am asserting that for most it doesn't happen. I'm not here to start anything BTW I want to reiterate that & not trying to challenge your pt either by saying you're wrong etc or I'm right etc. It's subjective my perspective. You know your shit I'm sure & the AMP vets here so respect. I am responding though because I'd like to know context and see the insides of it as to how you & others arrive there. Only way IMO is if cats go with one of you in person live & see how it goes to really discern things in totality, respectfully. That be my only solution other than what you said on us not caving in so to speak. So it's possible, but but for most of us it's unlikely that's all I'm saying.

Here's my perspective: there are multiple users here that are posting glowing reviews, or (in my opinion) paying more than they need to, or acting like a shill, or combinations of these things. Plus there are members here that don't post, but the potential is there.

It's not just one person. My post was intended for members that may be doing any of those behaviors.

On a separate note I'd like to compliment you. You have a flair for writing descriptions. I think my narratives are written in a lame way.

I'll send you a follow up message. Peace.

[QUOTE=MixedPlate89;7258657]Not trying to start shit so I want to get that out of the way. I've attempted to do what a lot of the vets suggested & mostly to no avail & I've walked away with my ball & went to another court the one place will say yes if one don't perspective & mostly no. I'm curious as a detailed individual from my science, and sports background of dudes getting an hr or whatever for $200. I'm curious to know how long is the massage for & the time they last (PAUSE LOL. Only for educational purposes based on many cats in her going at folks for "overpaying," and allegedly ruining it for others.).

I need details respectfully. On if cats also have rapport with said chicks or the places to go to to get $200 for an hr & I need to go to the same places & see the same chicks they say they see & I have for a lot. I'm a cat that will verify if said claim is true or not. Whether it's on claim of shop having young chicks or good looking chicks etc. From my experience mostly I haven't had the same success yall have had but to preference I am 4 months into this AMP shit whereas probably most of y'all senior members of vets are yrs into this AMP shit. I want to know context. Cause that happens for maybe very little folks & most pay more or whatever & I think that's on other shops that are good like Osaka for example that charges a flat rate of $250 for an hr. I'm sure these shops look at their competition & likely go based off that to a degree.

Not saying what you're saying can't happen to where if everyone banded together & demanded $200 for hr or no go that it wouldn't change. $70 house fee & $130 for tip is pretty reasonable. For me, I am willing to go as high as $240-260 but I'm in the range of $200-$240 for 30 minutes to an hr. Last time I got $200 for an hr was candy at nice spa 2 or so months ago. I've tried many times. I'm not going to go back & forth & then if they take it it may reduce overall service cause they feel cheated & that the customer is cheap etc. I do prefer to pay less ofc, but I don't mind giving up $240-260 & won't go past $260 for an hr. I generally do hh for $200 & always go over time no extra charge about 45-49 minutes, and at times 51 minutes. If one is found to be attractive to said AMP chick & their sex game is solid or elite I'm sure they won't keep track of time etc.

One can likely also know the non busy times & be able to get $200 for an hr. I'm sure they're other contexts like that, that can factor in or perhaps to be fair I'm not as firm enough or convincing enough idk and that you guys who do it are that's entirely possible to be fair. Either way it don't seem like it's adding up for a lot of us & for very few here that are seasoned AMP cats. My only suggestion would be as my homie I do is to tag along with seasoned vets & see how they talk to these AMP chicks & see what places & girls they go to, to get $200 for an hr. I've done it a few times before so I'm not doubting it can't ever happen. I am asserting that for most it doesn't happen. I'm not here to start anything BTW I want to reiterate that & not trying to challenge your pt either by saying you're wrong etc or I'm right etc. It's subjective my perspective. You know your shit I'm sure & the AMP vets here so respect. I am responding though because I'd like to know context and see the insides of it as to how you & others arrive there. Only way IMO is if cats go with one of you in person live & see how it goes to really discern things in totality, respectfully. That be my only solution other than what you said on us not caving in so to speak. So it's possible, but but for most of us it's unlikely that's all I'm saying.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;7260548]Here's my perspective: there are multiple users here that are posting glowing reviews, or (in my opinion) paying more than they need to, or acting like a shill, or combinations of these things. Plus there are members here that don't post, but the potential is there.

It's not just one person. My post was intended for members that may be doing any of those behaviors.

On a separate note I'd like to compliment you. You have a flair for writing descriptions. I think my narratives are written in a lame way.

I'll send you a follow up message. Peace.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the response. Yeah I definitely didn't take it to be aimed at one person. Fair enough. I do believe the price aspect to be subjective. Where I disagree at, is that some admins or some senior members have asserted that some of us, "overpaying," it, "ruins," it for others. I think they're several factors to consider before saying something like that outright. Thanks. I wouldn't say your description is lame. Everyone has a different flavor to them & how they describe things etc. I read a few of your reviews & for me I find value in what you have to say. So thanks. Alright, I look forward to it. Thanks for the compliment. I'm all for having an open dialogue on this topic, and hopefully finding a common ground.

Just got back from a week long vacation. From out of state and boy, does it remind me how bad the hobby is in Oregon. So much easier to find young fit girls in other markets. I come back to browse some ads and my god, nothing but overpriced land whales, and bitchy safety girls. Thank goodness my work has me traveling a lot lately. Already looking forward to my next trip.

[QUOTE=SugarDaddyPDX;7280038]Just got back from a week long vacation. From out of state and boy, does it remind me how bad the hobby is in Oregon. So much easier to find young fit girls in other markets. I come back to browse some ads and my god, nothing but overpriced land whales, and bitchy safety girls. Thank goodness my work has me traveling a lot lately. Already looking forward to my next trip.[/QUOTE]I'm visiting from Las Vegas and yeah it's rough here.

[QUOTE=SugarDaddyPDX;7280038]Just got back from a week long vacation. From out of state and boy, does it remind me how bad the hobby is in Oregon. So much easier to find young fit girls in other markets. I come back to browse some ads and my god, nothing but overpriced land whales, and bitchy safety girls. Thank goodness my work has me traveling a lot lately. Already looking forward to my next trip.[/QUOTE]Are portland prices going up, going down or staying flat in general? What do people think?

[QUOTE=BookOfMorty;7280608]Are portland prices going up, going down or staying flat in general? What do people think?[/QUOTE]Prices seem to be going up. And without reason.

I've taken the plunge on a few who I KNOW used to advertise for half of what they ask now, and the experience is the same or even more lackluster. Even non-pros are GPS like crazy.

At this point, it's almost worth sitting it out and avoiding all the BS. I'm not cheap, but I'm not stupid.

Yes Portland does have WHales and you cannot even go to most strip clubs as there are whales there also.

Yes Portland is a stupid city to monger in now. Street girls quote like 200+ for a BJ. OMG fuck off. I have not seen a bunch of the barely dressed ladies lately. They are just asking too much. Yes though Portland is a more expensive city. Housing and gas and groceries are more money. So the girls need more bucks to survive. Hard part is if they lowered the price a little they would make more.

But market forces will prevail. Each girl knows her price and what she can extract on a normal transaction. But you are right San Diego. Phoenix. Are a lot cheaper. Even vegas is better, Hope to visit Tropicana soon again now that the construction is done.

I'm saving up and just seeing regulars, high rate, low service, fuck that. I'll probably do cross country fuck fest and get a better bang for my buck.

[QUOTE=Organiz;7280810]I'm saving up and just seeing regulars, high rate, low service, fuck that. I'll probably do cross country fuck fest and get a better bang for my buck.[/QUOTE]Yes, I just got back from Southern California & it was much cheaper & best service ever. Definitely saving up & making trips down south.

Yet San Diego and probably Phoenix are more expensive to live in than portland. I think the GPS board yes TNA has a lot to do with this. The other part of the problem are insecure guys that are not willing to walk away.

RESIST.

[QUOTE=********;7280728]Yes Portland does have WHales and you cannot even go to most strip clubs as there are whales there also.

Yes Portland is a stupid city to monger in now. Street girls quote like 200+ for a BJ. OMG fuck off. I have not seen a bunch of the barely dressed ladies lately. They are just asking too much. Yes though Portland is a more expensive city. Housing and gas and groceries are more money. So the girls need more bucks to survive. Hard part is if they lowered the price a little they would make more.

But market forces will prevail. Each girl knows her price and what she can extract on a normal transaction. But you are right San Diego. Phoenix. Are a lot cheaper. Even vegas is better, Hope to visit Tropicana soon again now that the construction is done.[/QUOTE]

We all need to walk when the price is outlandish. Yes Phoenix and SD are more expensive than here. But the shear number of girls helps keep the supply of girls high and the demand is lower so the price is lower, Its all about value and what each of us thinks is the correct value to us. One guy can afford more others cannot. But we all like a good deal or feel like we got a good deal.

I do like reasonable service. I seem to miss the older days of the girls off the turnip truck who were looking to make some money after highschool days are gone, barely 18 year olds at massage places. Oh the good days of early internet.

Have a great day. Yes we should all tell the girl, I am just asking the price to see how much I am saving my self by doing it my self.

[QUOTE=SugarDaddyPDX;7280038]Just got back from a week long vacation. From out of state and boy, does it remind me how bad the hobby is in Oregon. So much easier to find young fit girls in other markets. I come back to browse some ads and my god, nothing but overpriced land whales, and bitchy safety girls. Thank goodness my work has me traveling a lot lately. Already looking forward to my next trip.[/QUOTE]You should check out Albuquerque if you want to see a lack of variety, LOL. The prices aren't terrible but there's almost nothing there, salem has more escorts, although the AMP scene would probably make most of you cry for joy. From what I can tell, there's about twice the AMPs for half the population and even the locals know they're basically full service joints, I saw a reddit post about how "AMPs.

Are whorehouses and are the new brown bag to hide your bottle of liquor and make it legal to have in public" and I admit it made me chuckle.

[QUOTE=Jd058;7282328]You should check out Albuquerque if you want to see a lack of variety, LOL. The prices aren't terrible but there's almost nothing there, salem has more escorts, although the AMP scene would probably make most of you cry for joy. From what I can tell, there's about twice the AMPs for half the population and even the locals know they're basically full service joints, I saw a reddit post about how "AMPs.

Are whorehouses and are the new brown bag to hide your bottle of liquor and make it legal to have in public" and I admit it made me chuckle.[/QUOTE]Well, good. I'll be in Albuquerque in a couple months.

[QUOTE=WestSidePunter;7282508]Well, good. I'll be in Albuquerque in a couple months.[/QUOTE]Check out eccie for reviews, there's a few "high points" for local AMPs. Have fun!