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I was cruising Main in El Cajon on Tuesday night and saw this fine looking WSW with long dark hair and a really good looking body walking near the bank. Although I was really spooked by recent reports of the activity in EC and such, she was giving that look and decided to take a chance. Pulled into a parking lot, she got in and we went through the LE checks. I asked her if she had a room as I really didn't care to be hanging around on the street too long our there. As chance would have it, she did not. Not wanting to pass this opportunity up, we discussed services and prices. She was offering FS for 80 and BJ for 40. Opted for the $40 package. We pulled into one of the many apartment complexes that had a real dark parking area in the rear and did the deed. Most satisfactorily I must say. When done, she told me that if I didn't want to take the chances next time, I could call her and she even gave me a business card! I won't give the details of the card out on this forum, but if anyone wants to exchange info, PM me and I'll give out the details. Good luck and good hunting.
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Sting ino fro the UT:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20040227-9999-6m27seize.html
If I owned an AMP, I would be very upset that such detailed, incriminating info is posted on this site.
Cruiser
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Does anyone now how I can go about in buying those confiscated cars?
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SDcruiser
I just can't believe the cops are running stings when there so few girls out. National City has been dead for quite a while so why bother. When you consider how big the cities budget deficit is becomes clear just how big a waste of money the stings are.
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REGARDING SDcruiser:
I just can't believe the cops are running stings when there so few girls out. National City has been dead for quite a while so why bother. When you consider how big the cities budget deficit is becomes clear just how big a waste of money the stings are.
Its not a big waste of money, by seizing those cars they just made the city some money. It sucks by a large margin, but in their eyes they just made a buck. After all, they get paid to be out there anyway and the same pay, I've never heard of cops getting a bonus for a successful sting?
My rule is always ask the girls out there "hi? what ya dooing? need a ride?" once in the car then we talk about knob polishing, but never when shes out side the car
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Hizark,
here's a clip from that news story:
>Police in the area routinely impound cars used in crimes, but those arrested can typically retrieve them later. However, laws passed in El Cajon and National City last year empower authorities to take ownership of the vehicles<
Since National City now has this new law, think about it. Say they actually get those eight cars and auction them off. I believe the city can actually sell them for current blue book value. Now I don't know what it costs their budget to operate one of these stings, but the profit from the sale of the cars must be more than enough to offset the cost of the sting. Sure, LE will tell us they run stings for this reason and that, but the fact is they do it for the $$$, no matter how many, or how few girls are out.
Roddd
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Hizark21;
According to this article, the sting was in Nasty City where your car is taken for good. Now there's an incentive. Saying stings are a waste of time and money is a flat argument since they have no problem catching johns wanting to pay.
Cruiser
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>WE NEED A GOOD ATTORNEY WITH BALLS, WHO IS WILLING TO FACE SOME HUMILIATION TO CHALLENGE THIS BS!
TANG~!<
Good luck finding that combination!
How's it going GT? Long time no post in these parts. Where you been hiding at?
Roddd
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Hi All:
I agree with TANG! However, the problem is that the laws in EC and NC are based on the Oakland law which was upheld in the State Supreme court. Basically the court found that the city has the right to take property away from someone that is arrested for something - not just convicted. This sucks, but it is what it is. What is more scary is then the government could possibly take away anything it wants and we as an individual can do nothing about it.
Maybe the ACLU is willing to take this one to the supreme court!
Be safe!
AHT
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With all of this property ceasing uproar I felt I should add my two cents.
Despite the "Bill of Rights" and its articles prohibiting unwarranted search and seizure there is a lesser known gem that is in the US Constitution known as "Eminent Domain".
Eminent Domain means that utlimately the goverment *can* take your property (house, car, etc) if it is in the government's best interest. Usually this is what forces the sale of houses in the path of a freeway expansion and things of this nature.
This car business could be fought as a constitutional issue. I think it is weak because it is neither a clear case of eminent domain nor does a prostition bust qualify under the Rico Act.
If someone was able to bring this car seizure business to the federal 9th circuit it may have a chance of getting struck down. The 9th circuit is solidly left-wing and some there have been recently labeled as "activist judges".
No, I am not a lawyer. However I do play one on TV.
TD
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I think the city's would have no problem taking car's & Holding them in storage until after a conviction is secured vs auctioning them for the simple fact someone is arrested. They don't do it for DUI, Robbery, Etc. Where a vehicle is used. What is to prevent an officer from arresting someone in a car he would like for himself ? Wait for it to go to auction then buy it himself ? Sure a long shot but anything can happen. This law is simply wrong on it's face everyone is entitled to Due Process under the law.
Reminds me of Carpool Lanes, Everyone who drives & buys gas pays nearly .45 cents Per Gallon in Taxes the money is taken to put in Carpool lanes that people can drive in who have passengers, They paid no more in taxes then anyone else. Go figure.
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No offense, but eminent domain has nothing to do with property seizures (technically, forefeitures). Among other things, eminent domain requires the government to provide "fair compensation" for the property it has condemned. Completely different area of the law than this.
Aht169 is right. California state courts have already said the cities can do this. It would only be the Federal courts that can say no now.
You might be interested in the Hollywood threads. On this issue, the word is that the forefeitures were costing LAPD so much that they stopped doing it, at least for now.
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Ewclark77 is absolutely correct. Eminent domain costs the government millions if not billions when they require citizens to hand over property for the public good. Forfeitures on the other hand don't.
What I have a problem with is the fact that vehicles are being taken away just for being arrested for mongering. No trial, no conviction, no nothing-car is gone!. Let's face it, forfetures are nothing new. It has been around since the beginning of our country. However there has always been due process! in the mongering situation there is none! Unlike 99.999% of all forfeitures, including drugs, illegal alien smuggling, other VIOLENT crimes, the property is never lost until the guilty verdict has been rendered. No guilty verdict, the property is returned. This is not what is happening here.
The lesson here is that even if you offer a ride to someone and a cop "claims" you were mongering, even if you really were not, you loose your car. Is this right? This strikes to me of old Soviet tatics rather than actions of a free and pluralistic society.
I say it again, isn't time the ACLU work on this issue?
Stay safe!
AHT169
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Can we just get back to the AMP & escort info?
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All of this discussion on eminent domain is interesting but can we get back to escort/AMP reviews?
Joe
