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Hi Guys,

I am pretty sure this is a no brainer for most of you. But for the ones who do not know this. Please read on for scheduling etiquette (I cannot believe I need to post this, LOL)

1. If a lady says she cannot make a certain time, please do not txt 100 more times asking for that same time. She is probably having some knock your socks off sex at that time and dosnt want to / can't see you then.

2. Be on time!

3. (This one is a biggie!) If you want to see another provider other than myself, Please understand I do Not schedule for other ladies or keep their pics to send to you (believe it or not, this happens frequently). Call her Yourself! I have NO clue what her schedule is, LOL.

4. If you need to cancle, thats totally understandable. However. Please, pretty please, call and let us know (even if short notice). You know how it irritates you whn a lady stands you up? Same for us. We don't care why and are not going to ask why. We just need to know you are not comming.

Ill say again that almost All of you are very polite and go above and beyond during scheduling / meeting. This is for a select few unnamed individuals.

I've been chatting with all the ladies lately and guess got nominated to make this post, LOL. No disrespect intended, hope this dosnt offend anyone. This is more of an FYI for the ones who don't know.

My Dear Anna,

Sorry you got elected but glad the post came from such a respected source. I appreciate the feedback and think all your requests are valid and reasonable and while I am sure I am not an offender it is nice to know that courtesy and respect are appreciated.

If you would please relay a couple things to your less vocal compadres I would appreciate it very much. BTW, unlike you I am speaking solely for myself.

Ladies please:

1. Be on time (within 15 min) I usually have a limited window of time and unplanned delays are a pain and can really screw up a
Day that was supposed to be great.

2. Please, please stay off the phone during our time. That includes quick glances to screen texts. It really detracts from the
Experience and it is rude and unprofessional. Not to be too blunt but I am not paying for you to schedule your next
Appointment during our time. (please put it on silent as ringing or vibrating is distracting even when not answered) If I hear
One more Gangsta rap ringtone I think my freaking head will explode. BTW, MY BIGGEST PET PEEVE!

3. Please do not schedule so tightly that I am forced to watched some jelly legged guy with a smile on his face walk by 2 minutes
Before I am called to your location. I know that it is your time not mine but it is a Huge Turn off!

4."If they really want to reach me they will call me again" is not good phone etiquette nor quite frankly good business. Return
Calls please! I will not call repeatedly because Anna is correct excessive calls to a provider are rude and inconsiderate.

5. While I respect and support the need for safety, I do not appreciate the conspicuous presence of male friends, SOs,
Protectors, managers etc. I find it unnerving and an inhibiting impediment to the fantasy nature of the encounter.

6. If I had a dollar for Everytime I had to stop and get protection due to a last minute "Oh by the way" call, I would have a lot of
Dollars. LOL! C'mon, no protection that is ridiculous!

Finally, Thanks ladies for some great times!

Take Care,

Senna.

[QUOTE=Sctmr; 1392451]Hi Guys,

I am pretty sure this is a no brainer for most of you. But for the ones who do not know this. Please read on for scheduling etiquette (I cannot believe I need to post this, LOL)

1. If a lady says she cannot make a certain time, please do not txt 100 more times asking for that same time. She is probably having some knock your socks off sex at that time and dosnt want to / can't see you then.

2. Be on time!

3. (This one is a biggie!) If you want to see another provider other than myself, Please understand I do Not schedule for other ladies or keep their pics to send to you (believe it or not, this happens frequently). Call her Yourself! I have NO clue what her schedule is, LOL.

4. If you need to cancle, thats totally understandable. However. Please, pretty please, call and let us know (even if short notice). You know how it irritates you whn a lady stands you up? Same for us. We don't care why and are not going to ask why. We just need to know you are not comming.

Ill say again that almost All of you are very polite and go above and beyond during scheduling / meeting. This is for a select few unnamed individuals.

I've been chatting with all the ladies lately and guess got nominated to make this post, LOL. No disrespect intended, hope this dosnt offend anyone. This is more of an FYI for the ones who don't know.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Senna5194; 1392915]My Dear Anna,

Sorry you got elected but glad the post came from such a respected source. I appreciate the feedback and think all your requests are valid and reasonable and while I am sure I am not an offender it is nice to know that courtesy and respect are appreciated.

If you would please relay a couple things to your less vocal compadres I would appreciate it very much. BTW, unlike you I am speaking solely for myself.

Ladies please:

1. Be on time (within 15 min) I usually have a limited window of time and unplanned delays are a pain and can really screw up a

Day that was supposed to be great.

2. Please, please stay off the phone during our time. That includes quick glances to screen texts. It really detracts from the

Experience and it is rude and unprofessional. Not to be too blunt but I am not paying for you to schedule your next

Appointment during our time. (please put it on silent as ringing or vibrating is distracting even when not answered) If I hear

One more Gangsta rap ringtone I think my freaking head will explode. BTW, MY BIGGEST PET PEEVE!

3. Please do not schedule so tightly that I am forced to watched some jelly legged guy with a smile on his face walk by 2 minutes

Before I am called to your location. I know that it is your time not mine but it is a Huge Turn off!

4."If they really want to reach me they will call me again" is not good phone etiquette nor quite frankly good business. Return

Calls please! I will not call repeatedly because Anna is correct excessive calls to a provider are rude and inconsiderate.

5. While I respect and support the need for safety, I do not appreciate the conspicuous presence of male friends, SOs,

Protectors, managers etc. I find it unnerving and an inhibiting impediment to the fantasy nature of the encounter.

6. If I had a dollar for Everytime I had to stop and get protection due to a last minute "Oh by the way" call, I would have a lot of

Dollars. LOL! C'mon, no protection that is ridiculous!

Finally, Thanks ladies for some great times!

Take Care,

Senna.[/QUOTE]Great list of request Senna, you hit it on the head. If any of these girls that have decent looks and even minimal skills would live by this list they could write their own checks.

Maybe we should all print this list off and nicely offer it to any of the girls we see.

I'm heading down to atlanta the first of next week for two days and am planning on going to a couple strip clubs, one massage parlor and visiting at least one independent. I posted seeking help on the atlanta board a couple days ago but haven't heard anything back. So if any of you guys can help me with any atlanta info or maybe know a fellow monger down there hook me up please.

[QUOTE=Sexhoundtn2;1393195]I'm heading down to atlanta the first of next week for two days and am planning on going to a couple strip clubs, one massage parlor and visiting at least one independent. I posted seeking help on the atlanta board a couple days ago but haven't heard anything back. So if any of you guys can help me with any atlanta info or maybe know a fellow monger down there hook me up please.[/QUOTE]Send pwhipped or niteluvr a pm maybe they will help you out, Roush

[QUOTE=Sexhoundtn2;1393195]I'm heading down to atlanta the first of next week for two days and am planning on going to a couple strip clubs, one massage parlor and visiting at least one independent. I posted seeking help on the atlanta board a couple days ago but haven't heard anything back. So if any of you guys can help me with any atlanta info or maybe know a fellow monger down there hook me up please.[/QUOTE]Since you are planning on spending some money anyway then just spend it all in one place. You will not be disappointed. It is expensive & I mean very expensive but we are talking about authentic swimsuit models, NFL cheerleaders & aspiring starlets. Personally, if I was there alone then I would go all out & get at least a 2hr visit. This is not your typical have a nice dream but more of a bucket list experience. You will get what you see, no bait & switch. I also attached a link for another place that you get what you see & top notch providers. I would say Britts is 5 diamonds & centerfold is 3 diamonds.

[url]http://www.brittanysplace.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.centerfoldbeauties.net/models.html[/url]

[QUOTE=P Hunt 37; 1393500]Since you are planning on spending some money anyway then just spend it all in one place. You will not be disappointed. It is expensive & I mean very expensive but we are talking about authentic swimsuit models, NFL cheerleaders & aspiring starlets. Personally, if I was there alone then I would go all out & get at least a 2hr visit. This is not your typical have a nice dream but more of a bucket list experience. You will get what you see, no bait & switch. I also attached a link for another place that you get what you see & top notch providers. I would say Britts is 5 diamonds & centerfold is 3 diamonds.

[url]http://www.brittanysplace.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.centerfoldbeauties.net/models.html[/url][/QUOTE]Oh. My! If only I had the time and money to take advantage of either of their services. Here's to winning the lottery! Thanks for the links P Hunt!

[QUOTE=Sexhoundtn2;1393195]I'm heading down to atlanta the first of next week for two days and am planning on going to a couple strip clubs, one massage parlor and visiting at least one independent. I posted seeking help on the atlanta board a couple days ago but haven't heard anything back. So if any of you guys can help me with any atlanta info or maybe know a fellow monger down there hook me up please.[/QUOTE]You've got to go to Follies. It's about the best strip club you could ever hope to visit. Full bar with $10 nude table dances that are usually full-touch lap dances. Incredible two-way contact with many girls. (Did I mention Nude. FULL. Touch?) And VIP is a good deal for extras if you play your cards right. Days are best. Plenty of hot girls every day of the week. White, black, brown, whatever you fancy. Mostly young and in shape, and all very friendly. I haven't been there at night in years, but I hear it becomes a whole different, not so cool club then, more for rowdy partying than for one-on-one intimacy.

[QUOTE=Sctmr; 1392451]Hi Guys,

I am pretty sure this is a no brainer for most of you. But for the ones who do not know this. Please read on for scheduling etiquette (I cannot believe I need to post this, LOL)

1. If a lady says she cannot make a certain time, please do not txt 100 more times asking for that same time. She is probably having some knock your socks off sex at that time and dosnt want to / can't see you then.

2. Be on time!

3. (This one is a biggie!) If you want to see another provider other than myself, Please understand I do Not schedule for other ladies or keep their pics to send to you (believe it or not, this happens frequently). Call her Yourself! I have NO clue what her schedule is, LOL.

4. If you need to cancle, thats totally understandable. However. Please, pretty please, call and let us know (even if short notice). You know how it irritates you whn a lady stands you up? Same for us. We don't care why and are not going to ask why. We just need to know you are not comming.

Ill say again that almost All of you are very polite and go above and beyond during scheduling / meeting. This is for a select few unnamed individuals.

I've been chatting with all the ladies lately and guess got nominated to make this post, LOL. No disrespect intended, hope this dosnt offend anyone. This is more of an FYI for the ones who don't know.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Senna5194; 1392915]My Dear Anna,

Sorry you got elected but glad the post came from such a respected source. I appreciate the feedback and think all your requests are valid and reasonable and while I am sure I am not an offender it is nice to know that courtesy and respect are appreciated.

If you would please relay a couple things to your less vocal compadres I would appreciate it very much. BTW, unlike you I am speaking solely for myself.

Ladies please:

1. Be on time (within 15 min) I usually have a limited window of time and unplanned delays are a pain and can really screw up a

Day that was supposed to be great.

2. Please, please stay off the phone during our time. That includes quick glances to screen texts. It really detracts from the

Experience and it is rude and unprofessional. Not to be too blunt but I am not paying for you to schedule your next

Appointment during our time. (please put it on silent as ringing or vibrating is distracting even when not answered) If I hear

One more Gangsta rap ringtone I think my freaking head will explode. BTW, MY BIGGEST PET PEEVE!

3. Please do not schedule so tightly that I am forced to watched some jelly legged guy with a smile on his face walk by 2 minutes

Before I am called to your location. I know that it is your time not mine but it is a Huge Turn off!

4."If they really want to reach me they will call me again" is not good phone etiquette nor quite frankly good business. Return

Calls please! I will not call repeatedly because Anna is correct excessive calls to a provider are rude and inconsiderate.

5. While I respect and support the need for safety, I do not appreciate the conspicuous presence of male friends, SOs,

Protectors, managers etc. I find it unnerving and an inhibiting impediment to the fantasy nature of the encounter.

6. If I had a dollar for Everytime I had to stop and get protection due to a last minute "Oh by the way" call, I would have a lot of

Dollars. LOL! C'mon, no protection that is ridiculous!

Finally, Thanks ladies for some great times!

Take Care,

Senna.[/QUOTE]Both well written and certainly reasonable expectations. If I might add ONE item to both lists that I think would be a reasonable expectation from both sides of the transaction: Please be CLEAN! Both escorts AND mongers. This should go without saying for the escorts, but some of the stories I've heard from girls about some of the pigs that have come to see them truly makes me sad.

And ONE item for the escorts: Many of us have SOs that either don't smoke, or we don't, or some combination thereof. If your entire room smells like an ashtray, then we will, too, when we part company with you. There's been more than one girl that I've truly enjoyed the company of that I will no longer see because it became too difficult to try to schedule time to where I would be able to both shower AND run a load of laundry before the SO gets home. I understand that most of you smoke, and trying to keep your room somewhat smoke-free is difficult, but just keep in mind that it really DOES matter to many of us.

TPP

[QUOTE=TwoPupPop; 1393766]Both well written and certainly reasonable expectations. If I might add ONE item to both lists that I think would be a reasonable expectation from both sides of the transaction: Please be CLEAN! Both escorts AND mongers. This should go without saying for the escorts, but some of the stories I've heard from girls about some of the pigs that have come to see them truly makes me sad.

And ONE item for the escorts: Many of us have SOs that either don't smoke, or we don't, or some combination thereof. If your entire room smells like an ashtray, then we will, too, when we part company with you. There's been more than one girl that I've truly enjoyed the company of that I will no longer see because it became too difficult to try to schedule time to where I would be able to both shower AND run a load of laundry before the SO gets home. I understand that most of you smoke, and trying to keep your room somewhat smoke-free is difficult, but just keep in mind that it really DOES matter to many of us.

TPP[/QUOTE]Senna, your right! So many ladies actually do things you mentioned. Everything on your list is a no brainer and it makes one wounder what they are thinking when they book. Like no condoms, really? Your a provider, and theyre like $9. 99 at target for 25! Probably cheaper at Walmart, ha ha.

Anyway, I agree 100% with your list.

TPP, YES! CLEAN! That is probably #1 with me. If you have people coming in back to back as said on Senna's post, you DO NOT have time to properly clean yourself (At Least an hour is needed to properly get ready for a date). And if a guy is nice and fresh, Ill enjoy so much more.

Luv ya guys,

Anna

Any you guys know when it will be open again comming from asheville, thanks Roush

Saw LEO over by Central with 2 new undercover sedans both white looked like Toyotas but were definitely Japanese. They had busted someone so keep on the look out, be careful & be safe.

[QUOTE=Roush 427;1394202]Any you guys know when it will be open again comming from asheville, thanks Roush[/QUOTE]Are you asking relative to the rockslides about a month ago? I-40 has been open again for weeks. It was only closed for a few days, unless there's a new closure I didn't know about.

BTW, taking the Hwy 25/70 detour only added about 20-30 minutes to the Asheville-Knoxville drive for me.

[QUOTE=Curt828; 1394255]Are you asking relative to the rockslides about a month ago? I-40 has been open again for weeks. It was only closed for a few days, unless there's a new closure I didn't know about.

BTW, taking the Hwy 25/70 detour only added about 20-30 minutes to the Asheville-Knoxville drive for me.[/QUOTE]Thanks I was talking about the rock slide, didn't know if was fixed last time it was a while, be safe Roush

Sitting at work today I got bored and placed an ad on CL. I put on there that I was looking to eat some pussy. I put my number so that anyone legit could text. I got a text about noon with a face pic and a pussy pic. We texted back and forth during the afternoon and she kept saying that she wanted to get together when I got off work. She told me her address so I could Google it. We made plans for 7 pm. I gave her a text about 6 she said she couldn't go till her sister came for her son that she was baby sitting. She said it would be about 7:30. 7:45. Well I'm beginning to think I'm getting the run around but figure I will drive close to her house and give her till 7:45 then go to the gym. But to my surprise about 7:30 she called and said to come get her. When I saw her she was very pretty small spinner body. She got in and we headed for a motel she was kind of quite and shy but very nice. We got a room and she didn't waste any time getting undressed. She is 29 and she had a rockin body she was a 8-9 easy. I thinking I'm going to get to fuck this hot gal. She gets on the bed doggie style and I slide my head between her legs and start eating that sweet pussy I slide a finger in her snatch and it was tight after about 10 minutes of eating her out she has a very vocal orgasm. I slide out and turn her over and pull her to the side of the bed and start eating that sweet pussy again I eat her out for about 30 more minutes and she has 2 more very vocal orgasms. She gets up and goes to the bathroom. When she comes back she sits beside me on the bed and starts sucking my dick after about 5 minutes she starts jacking me off. I tell her that I want to fuck her but she says she doesn't want to fuck. She continues jacking me off till I shoot my load on her tits. She goes to the bathroom again and brings back a wet rag to wipe me off. She tells me she wants to get together again next week but I think I'll pass. On my way home I get another text and nothing happened with her tonight except some phone sex but it looks promising.

[QUOTE=Dewayne1966;1396384]Sitting at work today I got bored and placed an ad on CL. I put on there that I was looking to eat some pussy. I put my number so that anyone legit could text. I got a text about noon with a face pic and a pussy pic. We texted back and forth during the afternoon and she kept saying that she wanted to get together when I got off work. She told me her address so I could Google it. We made plans for 7 pm. I gave her a text about 6 she said she couldn't go till her sister came for her son that she was baby sitting. She said it would be about 7:30. 7:45. Well I'm beginning to think I'm getting the run around but figure I will drive close to her house and give her till 7:45 then go to the gym. But to my surprise about 7:30 she called and said to come get her. When I saw her she was very pretty small spinner body. She got in and we headed for a motel she was kind of quite and shy but very nice. We got a room and she didn't waste any time getting undressed. She is 29 and she had a rockin body she was a 8-9 easy. I thinking I'm going to get to fuck this hot gal. She gets on the bed doggie style and I slide my head between her legs and start eating that sweet pussy I slide a finger in her snatch and it was tight after about 10 minutes of eating her out she has a very vocal orgasm. I slide out and turn her over and pull her to the side of the bed and start eating that sweet pussy again I eat her out for about 30 more minutes and she has 2 more very vocal orgasms. She gets up and goes to the bathroom. When she comes back she sits beside me on the bed and starts sucking my dick after about 5 minutes she starts jacking me off. I tell her that I want to fuck her but she says she doesn't want to fuck. She continues jacking me off till I shoot my load on her tits. She goes to the bathroom again and brings back a wet rag to wipe me off. She tells me she wants to get together again next week but I think I'll pass. On my way home I get another text and nothing happened with her tonight except some phone sex but it looks promising.[/QUOTE]Interesting things do happen when using CL.

A few months ago I answered a post from a guy wanting someone to do his wife while he watched. It stated in the posting three or four times no bi or gay stuff. I was amazed when he answered the email and even more so when he called when I gave him my number. We put it together. She was nervous has hell to start but it ended up being one of the HOTTEST times I have ever had. After I finished (she came twice) or thought I was, he torn that thing up himself; she was huffing and blowing but then hit a screaming O. He said that's the way she likes it and invited me to hit it again. I did and hit it hard; she busted two more screamers before I could get off again. I tried to hookup with them again but it would seem that was a once in a lifetime deal. If it were not for the video we took of a couple of parts, I might even think it was all a dream.

This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.

First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.

Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.

Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.

See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.

Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.

Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.

Sorry for calling bullshit.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=FastAndLoose; 1398593]This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.

First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be...[/QUOTE]Very well said.

Ok Pator Pete I read your post. It isn't the most infamous post of all time. I have 3 degrees and I have no earthly idea what point you are trying to make. I clearly understood what you typed but seriously! If you want to call out someone call them out.

[QUOTE=FastAndLoose; 1398593]This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.

First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.

Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.

Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.

See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.

Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.

Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.

Sorry for calling bullshit.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FastAndLoose; 1398593]This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.

First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.

Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.

Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.

See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.

Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.

Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.

Sorry for calling bullshit.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Addicted and loving it.

Good essay and maybe accurate in part. Maybe my ATF's do have a drug problem that I don't see, or don't want to see. I don't know. But I do know I like the rush of walking through the door of a gorgeous and complete stranger, confident in the knowing of what I am there for.

I for one can say, I am addicted to the warm touch and clean smell of a willing, and attractive, woman. I dare say 'I do know a few women who will, through you a free one once in a while, so I guess they like it too.

All in all I don't completely disagree with you. No doubt we could debate drugs for years with no quick answer. President Nixon declared the War on drugs on the early seventy's. Forty years later I see no real change. I just like the feel of my rose colored glasses.

Live long, love often, and fuck when you can, I am going to.

Nick

[QUOTE=FastAndLoose; 1398593]This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.

First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.

Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.

Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.

See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.

Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.

Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.

Sorry for calling bullshit.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Can you just give me the gist of this opus?

[QUOTE=FastAndLoose; 1398593]This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.

First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment.

Sorry for calling bullshit.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Your right on most of it most of the time. However, there's always something else in the world. Not always the way the generalizations you make say it is. Mostly yes but not always.

I got plenty of 20 somethings UTRS that enjoy every minute. Got ones that are acting too (I get bored with these and kick them to the curb very quickly). And yes "I" wouldn't be ENJOYING either type if the $$$ weren't there (even though they swear its not so. Yah right.) Happy to spot them that lie and not call them on it. Let them have their bit of denial too.

Well known to stop seeing them if I discover my tuition money is being diverted for drugs. Known to test them too. LOL.

But I don't usually hang with the serious pro's seeing guy after guy. I'm usually their only pay for play type. But I pay way way more for this privilege. I kick many to the curb if they graduate from semi-pro to pro.

Heck, places ones here drive into. Alone scare me.

Tried to get in touch with Alexis, but her site is no longer up and no response from texts or emails. Anyone seen her recently or know what's going on? Saw a few post about her from the beginning of February but nothing recently.

Thanks

[QUOTE=FastAndLoose; 1398593]This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.

First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.

Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.

Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.

See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.

Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.

Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.

Sorry for calling bullshit.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]First and Foremost,

I am a 22yr Old Provider and have been in the business 4 yrs! I do NOT have a Pimp / Nor a Drug Problem. I have many Regulars that are great Friends that have been there for me thru out the years. I do not Live in a Hotel, I own my own house / car (and definitely not a Lexus!). I go to School and Have a IRA already in place, Given I probably do make more than some of my clients their money goes to nothing but my bills, school tuition, and of course lavish gifts for myself which is well deserved. I say all of this to say [blue][Text in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was redacted or deleted because it was written in [u]ALL CAPITAL LETTERING[/u]. In the future, please do not write reports in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue]

Sounds like someone who has told us this over & over. I know these girls are in it for the money & I know many use but try to keep it on the DL. I think most realize this but many of the mongers are also fulfilling fantasies. I, personally, am just about the HE as I don't do GFE, DFK & definitely not DATY. I do have a SO & I do reserve the GFE for her only as I know it is mine only. It is only about sex for me. Yes, I enjoy it if the girl is personable & we are on a friendly basis but I have no illusions that I can make one of these ladies legs quiver from oxytocin overload. I do believe if you become a regular, are nice, clean, respectful & tip if they earn one that you can develop some kind of friendship albeit dysfunctional. If you truly feel as you do then you should quit mongering.

[QUOTE=FastAndLoose; 1398593]This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.

First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.

Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.

Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.

See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.

Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.

Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.

Sorry for calling bullshit.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rollin Stone;1398939]Ok Pator Pete I read your post. It isn't the most infamous post of all time. I have 3 degrees and I have no earthly idea what point you are trying to make. I clearly understood what you typed but seriously! If you want to call out someone call them out.[/QUOTE]Bla Bla Blah, What is your point F & L ? GO AWAY and preach to someone eles!

I don't get it. You mad bro?

[QUOTE=FastAndLoose; 1398593]This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.

First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.

Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.

Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.

See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.

Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.

Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.

Sorry for calling bullshit.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]
Based on earlier reports from local providers and some internal linguistic evidence in the above post (plus the fact that this is his first post under this alias), this is simply a familiar troll seeking reactions and over-reactions. If you don't feed the trolls, they eventually get tired and go back under the bridge.

Sounds to me like someone that's jealous. Probably has a small dick and can't please a lady. Or a small wallet and can't afford the ladies.

[QUOTE=FastAndLoose; 1398593]This will probably go down as one of the most infamous posts to hit this site in some time. However, I don't really care. It's something that's been weighing on my mind for quite some time now. Yes, you will notice this is a first post. Only because I'm what you would consider a "Senior Member" and god forbid I should post something negative.

First, just let me say I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I'm not calling out anyone as much as maybe I'm calling out myself. I guess my first statement would be who in the hell are we kidding? Yes, I'm talking to you Don Juan. Hear me when I say this they really don't enjoy it and you're not the worlds greatest lover. I mean honestly you just passed the third or fourth trick of the day on your way to the door, yet you think you're the special one that got her to climax? Really? The only thing that put a smile on her face was that money you laid on the counter and that was for other reasons that we will get to in a moment. Have you ever had sex with a 20 something before? These girls are numb to the experience. They are acting! That's what they do. They make you feel special so you'll drop that money on them again next week. However, in your narcissistic mind you think you're different, that you know this girl. Guess what? You don't. You only know what they want you to know and that's limited to whatever story they feel like telling you. Yep, you guessed it they are lying to you and there is a reason for that too.

Now, let's do a little math so this whole thing will tie together at the end. We will round things off just to make it easy. Average rate will run you 200. Your high end, popular providers are around this mark. They are also on average turning 4 to 5 a day. Yes, that's right that many and you're only a number. So easy math tells us they are turning around $1000 a day. Wow! Working 7 days a week at that average we're looking at over 300k for the year. Ok, seems excessive so we will dial it back to let's say 120k a year. The reality is they make more than most of you in a year.

Now, taking that into consideration let's think about this. How many of them live like they make that kind of money? A lot of them are living in the same hotel you see them in each day. They may or may not have a car, but if they do it's not usually a Lexus. If they do have a place it's usually an apartment and I'm not talking about an upscale apartment either. It's not furnished lavishly usually. In other words it's not like they have a lot to account for. Hmmmm, so where does that money go? Well isn't that the 365, 000 question.

See when I said they don't really like what they do there was a point to that. I've seen so many posts coming to the rescue of these girls. We defend them to the end when it comes to drug use. Realistically though that's where the money goes. See it's all tied together. They need the money for the drugs and they need the drugs to do the job. So no Don Juan they really don't feel a damn thing you're doing. Yes, they are numb to the whole damn experience and the only thing that does excite them is the money you set on the table so they can numb the experience they just had with you. They have to escape that pain, shame, low self esteem somehow.

Now, this is where I really am going to piss off those of you who think you know these girls. Who think you're "friends". If you were truly friends you wouldn't want to contribute to keeping them where they are. If this same girl was on the side of the road begging for money you wouldn't roll down the window and give her $200 not without your own interest at heart. Hence, the UTR types many of you strive to find. So with all your controlling, ego boosting, narcissistic behavior you've managed to contribute to the cycle and they continue to lie to you as people with addictions will do to get what they ultimately want. So just call it like it is an arrangement. You know very little about any of them and really could care less because even when it's pointed out to you, you'll continue your "hobby" because it fills your own selfish needs. That's not really how friends help each other.

Now, when this girl ends up beat, raped, robbed, or god forbid murdered or just dead from overdose you'll do your part to feel a little remorse. Hell you might even post something nice on this board as you're trolling for your next dream but that will be about the extent of it. Because deep down all you'll really wish is that you had seen her before her demise. To you she's a commodity that you can easily toss to the side. The sad thing is many of you have a SO and some even have children of your own. Let's hope your own don't head down this path because if you're a worthy parent at all your outlook on someone you truly care about would be a whole hell of a lot different.

Sorry for calling bullshit.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]And so what?

I don't know what's funnier. The "infamous" post that is as out of place here as Rick Santorum speaking at a Women's Rights forum. Or the defensive responses to it. The truth is that we won't learn our own lessons until we get kicked in the nuts hard enough to make us want to change (or scared not to). There may be some (or a lot) of truth in what he said, but anyone with a brain pretty much knows the dangers and implications involved in this lifestyle and don't want to hear about it here.

I am wanting to know how these sessions really play out. Should I expect to get a sensual massage and HE or are these ladies providing FS and calling it a massage? I've read the websites listing their services and some are very vauge about the service. My main referrence is to the Ashville girls that will be here next week.

Is this guy real? Yeah, we're human beings wired to have a huge fucking grin on our faces when our egos are stroked (no pun intended). If some hot woman tells us we're great we'll take the compliment. In regards to how they spend their money, we don't control what they do with it. Simple as that.

Troll, and prosthelytizing. Both against board rules. Not to mention douchebag for coming on a forum dedicated to mongering and preaching at us.

Report his post and have him banned. (I've already reported the post). Maybe Jackson can figure out via IP address if the poster really is a "senior member", and if so, ban his senior member identity, too.

TPP

[QUOTE=TwoPupPop; 1399869]Troll, and prosthelytizing. Both against board rules. Not to mention douchebag for coming on a forum dedicated to mongering and preaching at us.

Report his post and have him banned. (I've already reported the post). Maybe Jackson can figure out via IP address if the poster really is a "senior member", and if so, ban his senior member identity, too.

TPP[/QUOTE]Indeed, I reported it as well.

And how is this different from a wife or girlfriend that strokes our ego to get something on the honey-do list or from the jewelry store. There are a lot of relationships out there that are little different. Many women are masters of manipulation. They use what they have that we want to get what they want. Always have, Always will.

[QUOTE=Skwerl;1399999]And how is this different from a wife or girlfriend that strokes our ego to get something on the honey-do list or from the jewelry store. There are a lot of relationships out there that are little different. Many women are masters of manipulation. They use what they have that we want to get what they want. Always have, Always will.[/QUOTE]Let's be honest, we men are manipulative too. We say and do what we need to in order to get what we want. And just as I don't think this is an appropriate forum to come in and preach about the evils of mongering, I don't want it to become a place where we basically say that most women (wives, mothers, daughters, etc.) are nothing more than money hungry working girls. This isn't the Rush Limbaugh show.

I don't judge the ladies who have made the choice to make money from our lust, but I am also not going to justify my choice to visit them by saying my SO deserves my wandering activities because she is no different than they are. My choices (right or wrong) are mine and mine alone.

[QUOTE=Mundane; 1400073]Let's be honest, we men are manipulative too. We say and do what we need to in order to get what we want. And just as I don't think this is an appropriate forum to come in and preach about the evils of mongering, I don't want it to become a place where we basically say that most women (wives, mothers, daughters, etc.) are nothing more than money hungry working girls. This isn't the Rush Limbaugh show.

I don't judge the ladies who have made the choice to make money from our lust, but I am also not going to justify my choice to visit them by saying my SO deserves my wandering activities because she is no different than they are. My choices (right or wrong) are mine and mine alone.[/QUOTE]My point is that its simply human nature, something we all have and will do in varying degrees. We all sell ourselves to our jobs (or business if self-employed). We all make deals for what we need or want. I doubt there is anyone among use that didn't zone out to get through a job they hated just to pay the bills, or do something they didn't like or want to do to get what they wanted or needed. The principle is the same, it only varies in degrees.

[QUOTE=InFromBehind;1399807]I am wanting to know how these sessions really play out. Should I expect to get a sensual massage and HE or are these ladies providing FS and calling it a massage? I've read the websites listing their services and some are very vauge about the service. My main referrence is to the Ashville girls that will be here next week.[/QUOTE]Just a very good sensual massage with HE. No FS.

Guys,

Make sure if you have any morning dates tomorrow you remind them to spring forward! I have already done so and was told I would have been sitting around with my dick in my hand for an hour if I hand not given her a heads up.

Senna