Massage Parlor Reports

I was in San Francisco for 10 days a couple years ago with nothing but time on my hands.

My lead source was local free neighborhood newspapers that advertised neighborhood massage and accupuncture places, all were staffed by Chinese women. I brought my walking shoes as well, and signs in windows with "accupunture" and/or "massage" were also great lead sources.

All I can say is that I was in absolute monger heaven - $40-50 hour-long, non-stop happy massage, then had a second girl for another hour to finish the job. At other times, I had 4-hand for an hour or two. These girls knew exactly why I was there and delivered exactly what the doctor ordered.

Now that I think about it... I'm overdue for another vacation!


[QUOTE=Loafer Boat]Can argue with you when you are right. All about the $$$ with Chinese shops. With the tease to bring you back for more of nothing.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to China! Haha, that is just what it is like in China. 5 minutes in all walking directions I have 10 options for 90 min FS massage, price range 40 - 60 USD and no tipping! I get 2 hour tease veggie massage first by thai teens for 138 RMB ($20.00)

[QUOTE=Bachatero]I was in San Francisco for 10 days a couple years ago with nothing but time on my hands.

My lead source was local free neighborhood newspapers that advertised neighborhood massage and accupuncture places, all were staffed by Chinese women. I brought my walking shoes as well, and signs in windows with "accupunture" and/or "massage" were also great lead sources.

All I can say is that I was in absolute monger heaven - $40-50 hour-long, non-stop happy massage, then had a second girl for another hour to finish the job. At other times, I had 4-hand for an hour or two. These girls knew exactly why I was there and delivered exactly what the doctor ordered.

Now that I think about it... I'm overdue for another vacation![/QUOTE]

I will take a k girl anytime, like Sunshine last night at Aloha. Not gonna bore you with the usual compliments about her. She does have a gorgeous ass and is very talented. She did introduce me to a new girl named Chanel. She is probably mid 30, thin, dark hair. It was hard to really concentrate because Sunshine brought her in for "cleanup" which I was not expecting. Har to decide between Sunshine, Connie, Patty (on vaca), or new girl. In reality, all are pretty and have skills in there own way (cant speak for Chanel). If i went looking for Sunshine and mam tells me she is busy, I wouldnt walk away. Id be happy with Connie or even Patty. In case you guys are planning to go on Monday, call ahead. I could swear she said they would be closed.

[QUOTE=Clinton Bush]Here is the basic difference and it is a cultural one.

*Chinese are very pragmatic and it's all about their making money.
*Koreans are very attentive and it's all about pleasing their man.

I will take K girls any day. If I find an AMP is Chinese staffed, I will walk out
Somebody tell me I am wrong here.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Just finished session with new girl Mi Mi, OMG is all I can say. Did 1 hour plus $.4 worth every penny. I will for sure repeat! 28, 5ft, fantastic breasts and enjoys her work. My new ATF with out doubt. Enjoy!

Chanel is now Mi Mi, Mama changed her name last night during my session. She is Sunshines most excellent replacement.

[QUOTE=Trendz Tampa]I will take a k girl anytime, like Sunshine last night at Aloha. Not gonna bore you with the usual compliments about her. She does have a gorgeous ass and is very talented. She did introduce me to a new girl named Chanel. She is probably mid 30, thin, dark hair. It was hard to really concentrate because Sunshine brought her in for "cleanup" which I was not expecting. Har to decide between Sunshine, Connie, Patty (on vaca), or new girl. In reality, all are pretty and have skills in there own way (cant speak for Chanel). If i went looking for Sunshine and mam tells me she is busy, I wouldnt walk away. Id be happy with Connie or even Patty. In case you guys are planning to go on Monday, call ahead. I could swear she said they would be closed.

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Michelle is the mamasan and definitely a Chinese operation.I should have left immediately. They have been open 5 days and no business. Located across from the Cafe Ponte in a strip mall off Ulmerton.The cross street is ICOR Pkwy.

NO T/S,NO H/E,Massage girl Yo Yo answered her cell phone twice and was yelling over the walls which do not go all the way to the ceiling.

STAY HOME... What was I thinking!

T.

Tried to go to PT on Mon, went by around 2:00PM, sign on door sez Open @ 5PM. Ok, so I had some stuff to do, did the stuff, went back around 5:15PM, couple of guys hanging around the parking lot (waiting to get in I guess). I called, asked if they were open, now it's 'we open @ 6:30 today'. I left, called BT, June is there, Mammasan very happy to see me, had the usual very nice time @ BT. Sure hope that was an anomaly (sp?) w/ PT.

Goldstien57 out

Bro's

Just had a massage at Hot Stone, my technician is an Angel. She gave me the best massage and TS I have had in ages. She also has a wondeful personality and is sweet as pie. Contrary to a recent report I found the place to be very clean, good atmosphere, nice music, many clean towels and a nice warm TS. I will repeat for sure! Highly recommended.

Mister P

[QUOTE=Jaws Iii]
So I went to Violet Spa, figuring I would tell my masseuse that this was my last time if nothing happened. Old mamasan was gone, Wendy said come try new girl Annie. She started the soft nail massage just prior to the flip, and immediately went to work on Mr. Happy. Would not allow roaming, and kind of wanted me to service myself, but ended up giving a good HE, and then massaged for the remainder of the hour. Guess I might hang in there a few more times. Funny place - still don't think I've got the hang of it. Annie is Chinese, not Korean. Velly bad Engrish. Not sure what the difference means, but it is certainly different than a Korean AMP.[/QUOTE] Stopped by Violet this afternoon feeling a little more optimistic with Annie based on Jaws experience. Different mamasan like Jaws reported. Annie was my attendant, and long story short, no soft nail massage, and she didn't take the hint. Good massage otherwise, but the place had 3 rooms going, which might have had something to do with it, not sure. The only reason I keep going back is because the massage is really good, and there is that glimpse of hope that a HE is to be had, but either way its worth the $$. Jaws, you must be the man, maybe you're way more upfront than i am about what you're looking for, but i'm still batting zero at this place.

[QUOTE=T Amp A]Stopped by Violet this afternoon feeling a little more optimistic with Annie based on Jaws experience. Different mamasan like Jaws reported. Annie was my attendant, and long story short, no soft nail massage, and she didn't take the hint. Good massage otherwise, but the place had 3 rooms going, which might have had something to do with it, not sure. The only reason I keep going back is because the massage is really good, and there is that glimpse of hope that a HE is to be had, but either way its worth the $$. Jaws, you must be the man, maybe you're way more upfront than i am about what you're looking for, but i'm still batting zero at this place.[/QUOTE]

Annie came to me loaded for a good time. Wendy was the mamasan, and I struck out completely with her. It is true I might be a bit aggressive at roaming, but I never got a chance with Wendy. On the other hand, over the phone Wendy said to come see the new girl Annie who acted like a HE was expected (but without roaming). I have to believe that the ladies talk to each other, and that I have earned, for better or worse, a reputation as a guy that wants more than just a massage. The fifty dollar tip doesn't hurt either.

But I think at this point the better deal is across the street at Hot Stone. For .6 more, you get a shitty massage for a half an hour and one of the best bjs I have ever had.
Best of luck to you, and let us know how it turns out.

And as to my critique of Hot Stone's facilities, it has to do with going to their bathroom. It's like a bathroom off a garage, nothing like a class place such as Aloha or Pine Tree. Yes, their massage rooms are clean, but I also have a problem with a one-toothed wonder meeting me at the door, and asking for more money because I want to use the bathroom. You go through a storage room to get to the bathroom, like it's an afterthought. So I can't assign the same class to this place as I can to Aloha or Pine Tree. I saw the table shower room off of the same area, so I am sure some monger can back me up on this.

So it's another Saturday, and I have a window of time. I go to Hot Stone, only to find out that Angela is off getting her hair done. Woman at front desk has the best looking lips, so, being a bit buzzed from golf in the morning, I am so brazen as to ask her for a bj, no condom. She refuses, so I walk. Probably should have stayed and worked it, but once I walk out the door, I can't go back. Stupid.
So I cross the street to Violet, and there is the combo of Wendy at the front desk and Annie to do the massage. I get the best rub job of my entire life from Annie, I mean 30 minutes of playing with the boys until I finally give it up. However, no roaming, no anything else despite offering money and being aggressive. Hard to figure this place, as I was prepared to spend bucks for fs, and as I was the only one there, thought it might happen. Wouldn't have been there except for Angela's demise, and that was probably a screw up too. That lady at Hot Stone has some of the nicest full lips I have ever seen. I should have stayed and tried them, but the idiot in me walked. Maybe next week.

Visiting soon and looking for intel on FT and TG, from what I gather from reading the board it looks like a great choice. Does Cindy still work as well being owner? any reports on Megan or Kelly would be helpful to.

Thank You!

After years of avoiding Aloha due to subpar service, I decided to look into all the noise being made on the forum. Got there at 8 pm Sunday night (I figured it would be a slow night). It was nice to see the same mamasan I remember. I gave her $60 for half an hour.

I asked to use the restroom and complimented her on the fluorescent-lit indoor garden. I heard her call the girl out twice in what seemed as a imperative tone. At any rate, I got the same room I always get (the one in the right corner).

This mid-thirties, thin korean girl walks in. I hug her and take off my clothes. She introduces herself as Mimi. The massage was ok. Her accent was almost funny. Her boob job was good. Her gum chewing was incessant!

So, after 20 minutes of strained massage, she asks me how much I paid last time. I told her: "whatever it was, I am not paying the same tonight". She proceeds to give the price list. $120 for FS, $100 for BJ and 80 for HJ. I started getting up off the table. She asked me to relax and did some more sucky massage. I told her all I wanted was a BJ. She said it was $80. I told her to finish my 30 minutes. She then agreed on a BJ for $50 and offered me the $100 FS special. She was really insistent that I come back soon. She'll be waiting. I still think I overpaid.

PT is still the best house in the area.

[QUOTE=Travelrr 433]I just left there and got an the Russian massage. I don't like going to Dr. Jack Chinese Herb Office!

I can help, perhaps.

Ella is a Russian married to an OLD American "doctor" who sits in the front room of the old house selling herbs. There is a sign that reads "all things are possible" at the front door.

It does not apply to the massage experience. For forty bucks I (slightly) prefer massage envy.

Cheers.

I have been to Massage Envy, but found a better therapeutic massage at this place: [url]http://massageandfacialessentials.com/default.aspx[/url]

You can't beat $25.00 for a superb one hour Swedish relaxation massage. Of course draping is required (as it is at Massage Envy) and there are no extras. But at $25/hr, who cares? I visit them every week. Bill Ho


[QUOTE=Trojanowl][QUOTE=Travelrr 433]I just left there and got an the Russian massage. I don't like going to Dr. Jack Chinese Herb Office!

I can help, perhaps.

Ella is a Russian married to an OLD American "doctor" who sits in the front room of the old house selling herbs. There is a sign that reads "all things are possible" at the front door.

It does not apply to the massage experience. For forty bucks I (slightly) prefer massage envy.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

Anybody tried Two Sisters in Dunedin lately? I tried it once and it seemed strictly legit. I got a PM from someone who had different experiences. I'm tempted to try again, but would welcome any other input.

Thanks.

I was feeling tense today and was in need of a nice massage, so I payed a visit to Violet Spa. Boss lady, and Angela both recognized me, and this is the second time I have been since the owner changed.

When Angela came in, she asked how I like my massage. I told her Hard, and soft after. She oiled me up, full body massage, then back walking which was intense. After about 40 minutes of this great massage, she started the soft massage with LOTS of teasing and roaming, and I was in heaven. She then wiped off my back with hot towels, and then the flip. She started more teasing, but only teasing not actually touching me, and she kept looking at the clock, so I knew time was coming close. I took her hand and put it on me, and she then took my hand and put it on me and said "you do." I refused, but she got the hint and completed the HE. I have to say without the awkwardness at the end, this has to be one of the best massages I've had.

Glad the place finally came through for you. If Angela was the one who wears the scrubs, then she was the one who took gave me a great HE once and left me dangling (literally) the next time. She does give one awesome massage, and claimed to be an acupuncture therapist from China. I'm now buying into this whole Chinese massage thing as being difficult due to cultural differences. Thanks, CB.

So now, if I have to make a quick dash with limited time, it's Hot Stone with K girls first and Violet second. Still a great massage at Violet, but it's so damn hard to get to a HE that anything else feels impossible. Thought I would get a bj from Cici at Violet, and even got her to give the idea brief lip service (sorry for the pun), but nothing close since then despite vigorous and aggressive campaigning. And Cici has gone away, as far as I can tell.

Hope Annie comes back. Even without roaming, she spent 30 minutes just paying attention to the boys, the best sensual massage I have ever had. IMHO, in order to survive, the ladies at Violet will need to display consistency and to stop watching the clock so closely. They should be able to treat a regular, known patron with a quality experience every time he comes in, regardless of the masseuse and her lack of familiarity with the customer. This hit or miss stuff won't work long term, as good alternatives exist.

Just my $.02.

[QUOTE=T Amp A]I was feeling tense today and was in need of a nice massage, so I payed a visit to Violet Spa. Boss lady, and Angela both recognized me, and this is the second time I have been since the owner changed.

When Angela came in, she asked how I like my massage. I told her Hard, and soft after. She oiled me up, full body massage, then back walking which was intense. After about 40 minutes of this great massage, she started the soft massage with LOTS of teasing and roaming, and I was in heaven. She then wiped off my back with hot towels, and then the flip. She started more teasing, but only teasing not actually touching me, and she kept looking at the clock, so I knew time was coming close. I took her hand and put it on me, and she then took my hand and put it on me and said "you do." I refused, but she got the hint and completed the HE. I have to say without the awkwardness at the end, this has to be one of the best massages I've had.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jaws Iii]If Angela was the one who wears the scrubs, then she was the one who took gave me a great HE once and left me dangling (literally) the next time.[/QUOTE] I could be wrong on the name, it might have been Annie, it started with an "A". I know she spoke next to no English.

Went in late and Aimee was only one there. Very happy to see a customer. Took me to the room and said face down I'll be right back. When she came back she asked how I wanted it hard or medium. I said med to soft. Se started with a feather touch all over and then spent 20 minutes just teasing. It was nice but no real massage.
Then she whispers to turn over. Jr was at attention and she just put a little oil on her hands and started as good of a handy experience as I have had. Then a hot towel cleanup and a really nice leg massage for 10 minutes.
Another customer came in and she left for a minute came back and a little kiss on the cheek. I got dressed gave her $.4 and was on my way.
Never a question of a HE. Much different from other visits I have made to Violet.

I bet it was the same girl I thought was called Annie. The best sensual massage I ever had. I asked for a hard massage first, and got a reasonably good one. It was the flip that made it all worthwhile.

[QUOTE=Lurkerdan]Went in late and Aimee was only one there. Very happy to see a customer. Took me to the room and said face down I'll be right back. When she came back she asked how I wanted it hard or medium. I said med to soft. Se started with a feather touch all over and then spent 20 minutes just teasing. It was nice but no real massage.
Then she whispers to turn over. Jr was at attention and she just put a little oil on her hands and started as good of a handy experience as I have had. Then a hot towel cleanup and a really nice leg massage for 10 minutes.
Another customer came in and she left for a minute came back and a little kiss on the cheek. I got dressed gave her $.4 and was on my way.
Never a question of a HE. Much different from other visits I have made to Violet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lurkerdan]Went in late and Aimee was only one there. Very happy to see a customer. Took me to the room and said face down I'll be right back. When she came back she asked how I wanted it hard or medium. I said med to soft. Se started with a feather touch all over and then spent 20 minutes just teasing. It was nice but no real massage.
Then she whispers to turn over. Jr was at attention and she just put a little oil on her hands and started as good of a handy experience as I have had. Then a hot towel cleanup and a really nice leg massage for 10 minutes.
Another customer came in and she left for a minute came back and a little kiss on the cheek. I got dressed gave her $.4 and was on my way.
Never a question of a HE. Much different from other visits I have made to Violet.[/QUOTE]

To clarify - are you saying that you tipped $.4 for a HE at Violet? Even if you paid .8 door fee +.6 tip, then sorry to say, but you paid way to much. "Somebody saw you coming" in more ways than one.

Don't throw you money away! Try visiting either BT or FT/TG for excellent service at a lower price. Support those AMP's and Aromatherapy places that are willing to work with the community while we are in this tough economy.

Take care of the places who look out for us and are not too greedy or in it to rip folks off. They deserve it and you will also get much better service.

I recently posted this in the Tampa forum, probably shoulda posted here since she's in St Pete (duh!). Thanks to the Tampa mongers who provided feedback.

Wondering if anyone has seen her:

[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/bts/1956653023.html[/url]

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Good Morning,

I have availability at 10AM or 730PM today (Thursday 9/16/10).

You will experience true relaxation & restoration on my table. I use a seamless blend of Swedish Relaxation Techniques and Deep Tissue Modalities. Many of my clients fall asleep on my table, which is a compliment for any LMT :)

My rate is $75/hr. I offer soft linens, scented candles, the best Biotone lotion, bodyCushions (a patented body cushion which helps position the body properly for a massage plus gets rid of any sinus pain or issues). I also offer a shower for your convenience.

Draping is optional per your comfort level.

Please email or call me at 727-518-5158. License# MM21995

p.s. I also have Sat & Sun available from 10AM-730PM

I could have swore I have seen this woman's picture on the dating site plentyoffish.com





[QUOTE=Whiskeysours]I recently posted this in the Tampa forum, probably
shoulda posted here since she's in St Pete (duh!). Thanks to the Tampa mongers who provided feedback.

Wondering if anyone has seen her:

[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/bts/1956653023.html[/url]

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Good Morning,

I have availability at 10AM or 730PM today (Thursday 9/16/10).

You will experience true relaxation & restoration on my table. I use a seamless blend of Swedish Relaxation Techniques and Deep Tissue Modalities. Many of my clients fall asleep on my table, which is a compliment for any LMT :)

My rate is $75/hr. I offer soft linens, scented candles, the best Biotone lotion, bodyCushions (a patented body cushion which helps position the body properly for a massage plus gets rid of any sinus pain or issues). I also offer a shower for your convenience.

Draping is optional per your comfort level.

Please email or call me at 727-518-5158. License# MM21995

p.s. I also have Sat & Sun available from 10AM-730PM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Clinton Bush]To clarify - are you saying that you tipped $.4 for a HE at Violet? Even if you paid .8 door fee +.6 tip, then sorry to say, but you paid way to much. "Somebody saw you coming" in more ways than one.

Don't throw you money away! Try visiting either BT or FT/TG for excellent service at a lower price. Support those AMP's and Aromatherapy places that are willing to work with the community while we are in this tough economy.

Take care of the places who look out for us and are not too greedy or in it to rip folks off. They deserve it and you will also get much better service.[/QUOTE]

60 Door fee and 40 tip. To me it was worth the C-note. Hope they see me again :->

[QUOTE=Lurkerdan]60 Door fee and 40 tip. To me it was worth the C-note. Hope they see me again :->[/QUOTE]

From your original post it appeared that you paid twice that.

Went there Friday morning. Drew Sandra; Cuban, blond, rock hard body, nice tits, spoke broken English,.. 45 door fee. She led me to room told me to get comfy and put tip on table then she left the room. I got undressed and put $40 on table. She came back in and asked if she could put lotion on my back. I said no problem. She gave very soft message w/ teasing for 15 minutes, then the flip. She teased a while then asked if she could lotion me up. I said I wanted bbj, she said $80. There was a full menu available but it was hard to negotiate because of language barrier, though I think sometimes they only fake not good English skills. I passed and just took the HE. There was free roaming over cloths. Said $40 to take top off, pass on that also. Over all it was nothing off the charts, but I will go back.

On the way out I saw Lucy. I think before the week is out I will go back to see what she has to offer.

One question if I may. Where are BT or FT/TG? I have RTFF and can not find the full names.

Thanks in advance

JJ

Check out report #2272 on St Petersburg massage parlor reviews.

BT stands for Body Temple.

[QUOTE=Jimjames]Went there Friday morning. Drew Sandra; Cuban, blond, rock hard body, nice tits, spoke broken English,.. 45 door fee. She led me to room told me to get comfy and put tip on table then she left the room. I got undressed and put $40 on table. She came back in and asked if she could put lotion on my back. I said no problem. She gave very soft message w/ teasing for 15 minutes, then the flip. She teased a while then asked if she could lotion me up. I said I wanted bbj, she said $80. There was a full menu available but it was hard to negotiate because of language barrier, though I think sometimes they only fake not good English skills. I passed and just took the HE. There was free roaming over cloths. Said $40 to take top off, pass on that also. Over all it was nothing off the charts, but I will go back.

On the way out I saw Lucy. I think before the week is out I will go back to see what she has to offer.

One question if I may. Where are BT or FT/TG? I have RTFF and can not find the full names.

Thanks in advance

JJ[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hungarian Hunk]I could have swore I have seen this woman's picture on the dating site plentyoffish.com[/QUOTE]Wouldn't be a surprise. I have seen several providers who posted on Craigslist and Backpage for erotic ads with dating ads on PlentyOfFish.com and Yahoo Personals.

What I find most amusing is, these chicks ***** themselves out and are still looking for love. They must not have gotten the memo that guys like to fuck ******, not marry them. It makes me think there is a little ***** in every woman.

Groupon has a deal going today for a massage that I assume is with no extras. But for sounds like it would be worth it for $35. This has to be bought today, but can be used until March 11, 2011. I never been to this shop, so buy at your own risk.

[url]http://www.groupon.com/deals/paradise-spa-tampa[/url]

Anyone seen Christina at PT?

Saw her. Excellent. Recommended. First to surpass carol.

Does anyone know?

Thanks,

Mal

[QUOTE=Malabar]Does anyone know?

Thanks,

Mal[/QUOTE]As far as I know they are still open. They have been advertising a new website lately, and shut down the old one withing the past couple of days.

Try: [url]www.tampabaystressrelief.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Ayrn75]As far as I know they are still open. They have been advertising a new website lately, and shut down the old one withing the past couple of days.

Try: [url]www.tampabaystressrelief.com[/url][/QUOTE]I've always wanted to meet Cindy. It's great to know she's still in play.

Many thanks.

Mal

Went to BT the other day. .75 door fee. Older woman showed me in. Asked if she was giving TS and she laughed and said no. Dont remember the attendant's name that I drew. She was short and a few lbs bigger then I would have liked, but oh well. TS was nice, all areas covered and a little teasing. Off to the room. It was the largest room I have ever seen in a Amp. Message was very through, just hard enough for my liking. Full menu was had. Left with a smile. Total was .75 plus $ tip. Will return.

After a couple weeks of absence, I made my way back to Hot Stone to see Angela. When I got there she was busy, so another lady gave the massage, which was fairly hard and good. She then said to me "Have a good time", and in came Angela. She chastised me for not having been around for a while. This is a quirky lady, but very talented. I opted for the same bbbj that I have had before, and she performed every bit as well or better than our previous visits. Good news is that she said she will be around for another month.

Called PT on Saturday evening looking for Mimi, but mamsan says she's not there until Thursday. So I swing by TG, and Simone and Christy are there. I just wasn't in a Simone mood, and Christy has really blown up. I hadn't been in awhile, but she's really gotten big.

On a lark, I cruised two Gandy shops -- Suite 110 and Executive Preference. Suite 110 had one plain, skinny chick working. EP had two girls -- neither one at all attractive -- demanding $.6.

Thoroughly disinterested, I called it a night.

I've wanted to visit Cindy or Megan for quite a while now but haven't yet. I've checked their website and not sure if it's better to go for one of the 20 or 30 minute visits with tip or what's recommended.

Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Ayrn75]As far as I know they are still open. They have been advertising a new website lately, and shut down the old one withing the past couple of days.

Try: [url]www.tampabaystressrelief.com[/url][/QUOTE]

Recently I visited an AMP in San Antonio, TX. Where a girl named Wendy knows MIMI, if I am not wrong MIMI is the one who use to work at Serenity Spa right? I didn't know she moved down to PT!

[QUOTE=Seffner Monger]Called PT on Saturday evening looking for Mimi, but mamsan says she's not there until Thursday. So I swing by TG, and Simone and Christy are there. I just wasn't in a Simone mood, and Christy has really blown up. I hadn't been in awhile, but she's really gotten big.

On a lark, I cruised two Gandy shops -- Suite 110 and Executive Preference. Suite 110 had one plain, skinny chick working. EP had two girls -- neither one at all attractive -- demanding $.6.

Thoroughly disinterested, I called it a night.[/QUOTE]