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Thinking of switching up and checking out one of NBrook spots. I'm thinking either Loving or Tat. Quick question, I see tat is listed in another burb, not NBRook. I see a review on another site that says they have another spot in a brook but can't find any intel. Is there another spot in NBRook? Apologies but I have RTFF and can't find anything other than what google says. Thanks.
[QUOTE=GoHomeSmiling;4453244]Thinking of switching up and checking out one of NBrook spots. I'm thinking either Loving or Tat. Quick question, I see tat is listed in another burb, not NBRook. I see a review on another site that says they have another spot in a brook but can't find any intel. Is there another spot in NBRook? Apologies but I have RTFF and can't find anything other than what google says. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sorted and retracted. Thanks.
This info might already have been disseminated. If not, be aware of what's happening in Northbrook.
[URL]https://patch.com/illinois/northbrook/owner-northbrook-massage-parlor-accused-pimping-employees[/URL]
[QUOTE=Dbiz01;4460248]This info might already have been disseminated. If not, be aware of what's happening in Northbrook.
[URL]https://patch.com/illinois/northbrook/owner-northbrook-massage-parlor-accused-pimping-employees[/URL][/QUOTE]They waste their time on this shit. That money could be used in other areas. Areas that that need it.
[QUOTE=Dbiz01;4460248]This info might already have been disseminated. If not, be aware of what's happening in Northbrook.
[URL]https://patch.com/illinois/northbrook/owner-northbrook-massage-parlor-accused-pimping-employees[/URL][/QUOTE]I bet the offending masseuse sold her out by simply playing the victim. Pointing the finger of blame sounds like the way to way to go, when needing to avoid a solicitation charge.
Biggest mistake was hiring spa employees from outside the Euro community. After all this time of quietly being in business and harming nobody? Something really fishy about that. How long were the AA and Asian women on staff? Not to make anyone paranoid, but if it's a short enough time period, could they have been a plant?
Part of the reason I like the EMPs in the first place, is that they stick together. She should’ve kept things close knit.
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;4463033]I bet the offending masseuse sold her out by simply playing the victim. Pointing the finger of blame sounds like the way to way to go, when needing to avoid a solicitation charge.
Biggest mistake was hiring spa employees from outside the Euro community. After all this time of quietly being in business and harming nobody? Something really fishy about that. How long were the AA and Asian women on staff? Not to make anyone paranoid, but if it's a short enough time period, could they have been a plant?
Part of the reason I like the EMPs in the first place, is that they stick together. She shouldve kept things close knit.[/QUOTE]Crazy stuff. I think you are right, she went down because he's trusted outside her inner circle of Euros who generally watch out for everyone. Going to guess this was dirty Mexican Vanessa who caved based on age. No reason for this to happen. Don't know what this means for other NB places.
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;4463033]I bet the offending masseuse sold her out by simply playing the victim. Pointing the finger of blame sounds like the way to way to go, when needing to avoid a solicitation charge.
Biggest mistake was hiring spa employees from outside the Euro community. After all this time of quietly being in business and harming nobody? Something really fishy about that. How long were the AA and Asian women on staff? Not to make anyone paranoid, but if it's a short enough time period, could they have been a plant?
Part of the reason I like the EMPs in the first place, is that they stick together. She shouldve kept things close knit.[/QUOTE]The story I was told was the (charged women) that was running the location has a license and operated the location by herself prior events.
After she got pregnant she hired the other women to work in the office.
She was not involve with the "happenings" in the office. One of the girls the police caught was given immunity if she flipped on the owner.
The girl ratted out the owner and was given a free pass.
This is word on the street I was told.
I was planning on visiting the area in a few weeks, can anyone tell me the name of the place so I can avoid it?
[QUOTE=IllegalRabbit;4471376]I was planning on visiting the area in a few weeks, can anyone tell me the name of the place so I can avoid it?[/QUOTE]I believe its solar?
[QUOTE=Lakecoguy;4469918]The story I was told was the (charged women) that was running the location has a license and operated the location by herself prior events.
After she got pregnant she hired the other women to work in the office.
She was not involve with the "happenings" in the office. One of the girls the police caught was given immunity if she flipped on the owner.
The girl ratted out the owner and was given a free pass.
This is word on the street I was told.[/QUOTE]The police should have instead arrested those EMP's for robbery for the prices they charge. Their rate increases are beyond ridiculous for the lousy quality massage many of them offer. I stopped going to them because their greed was just unreal! Even the ones that did a decent job raised their rates too high.
[QUOTE=Kellster;4472295]The police should have instead arrested those EMP's for robbery for the prices they charge. Their rate increases are beyond ridiculous for the lousy quality massage many of them offer. I stopped going to them because their greed was just unreal! Even the ones that did a decent job raised their rates too high.[/QUOTE]The way they demand money at Maria's in Skokie falls under extortion. Stay away!
[QUOTE=IllegalRabbit;4471376]I was planning on visiting the area in a few weeks, can anyone tell me the name of the place so I can avoid it?[/QUOTE]I suggest avoiding all of them in Northbrook. There are a few in one building so if one got busted, I suspect the rest are being watched.
[QUOTE=Walker333;4474533]The way they demand money at Maria's in Skokie falls under extortion. Stay away![/QUOTE]While this section is labeled for EMPs only, I'd be remiss for not mentioning the same robbery tactics are employed by the Latina spas as well.
[QUOTE=Dbiz01;4474864]While this section is labeled for EMPs only, I'd be remiss for not mentioning the same robbery tactics are employed by the Latina spas as well.[/QUOTE]The same robbery tactics are employed by just about all of Chicago right now. Prices are skyrocketing because demand hasn't changed and supply has dwindled due to all the busts. We are the capital of the 300 dollar handjob.
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;4463033]Biggest mistake was hiring spa employees from outside the Euro community. After all this time of quietly being in business and harming nobody? Something really fishy about that. How long were the AA and Asian women on staff? Not to make anyone paranoid, but if it's a short enough time period, could they have been a plant?
Part of the reason I like the EMPs in the first place, is that they stick together. She shouldve kept things close knit.[/QUOTE]One of the nice things about the EE providers is that uncle LEO generally doesn't speak or understand their language. And even when they do, they don't speak it like a native, let alone live the culture. There are rules to these things. The Russians are good providers. Ukrainians, Polish and Lithuanians too. An outsider will stick out like a sore thumb. Don't talk to an outsider, don't trust them. That's how all of these providers keep going down. When its all Euro girls they stick together.
[QUOTE=TJGeek;4474550]I suggest avoiding all of them in Northbrook. There are a few in one building so if one got busted, I suspect the rest are being watched.[/QUOTE]Agreed. When in doubt, play it safe. Just keep your head down and do your mongering somewhere else. Right now Northbrook isn't safe for us, but if we wait we can weather this storm.
[QUOTE=ApplePiePussy;4475843]The same robbery tactics are employed by just about all of Chicago right now. Prices are skyrocketing because demand hasn't changed and supply has dwindled due to all the busts. We are the capital of the 300 dollar handjob.[/QUOTE]Something bad must be going down right now. LEO cracked down on the lingerie shops in Rockford recently too and for now we can assume Northbrook is lost to us for the time being. Its clear SOMEONE has a bug up their ass, and we have no idea how far its going to go. My guess is its something political. For right now I'd suggest doing your mongering elsewhere unless you have a regular provider or some sort of inside intel. There are plenty of safer places for the time being, just be careful and keep your eyes and ears open. I suspect things will calm down given time. They always do.
[QUOTE=IllegalRabbit;4471376]I was planning on visiting the area in a few weeks, can anyone tell me the name of the place so I can avoid it?[/QUOTE]Its the building next to 7 /11 on shermer.
Sorry to hear of the recent bust in Northbrook. It's a shame to see the government wasting resources in this way. These ladies aren't hurting anyone. In the overwhelming majority of cases, they willingly provide a valuable, consensual service, which is perfectly legal in many well-functioning societies around the world, and which is perennial to humanity.
Additionally, in many cases when these busts occur, the authorities just end up taking away the only source of decent income that these women have, and reinforcing the perception many of them rightly have, which is that the authorities are not their allies. An undesirable consequence of this is that in the rare cases where the women are actually coerced, they do not feel comfortable going to the authorities for help. The solution? Bring this industry out of the darkness and into the light of the legal free market.
Maybe in the future, America will trend toward a more rational and liberal view about these issues. But as it is, we're living in a society that retains some archaic Puritan taboos, and you have to be a little careful here. As someone who has spent a lot of my life in Europe, I find the American attitude toward a lot of this stuff amusingly bizarre, and detrimental.
I sometimes wonder, do the cops involved with these "vice" departments even really believe in what they're doing? I suspect a lot of them just fall into it, and see it as a stimulating way to make a living (there's no doubt that it's fun to go undercover and feel like a spy on a righteous mission. It's definitely more fun than say, tax law, for most people). But I doubt they can give anything beyond a superficial rationale for what they're doing. Undoubtedly, many of them have something of a "white knight" attitude where they think they're saving women from a miserable and debauched life. But of course in reality, as you guys know, the majority of these women voluntarily choose this lifestyle, and some of them positively enjoy it as a way to make a living. I mean, if you're an uneducated woman and you have a liberal view of sexuality, it probably beats flipping burgers or working in retail for minimum wage, right?
Think of how the attitude toward marijuana has changed in a matter of what, a few decades? It was unironically considered by many to be the Devil's lettuce. A way for dark and evil forces to enter or influence a person (reefer madness!). However today, even to most conservative-minded people, that way of thinking seems so absurd and outmoded, and local governments are eagerly fighting for the spoils of marijuana revenue! Now it's rapidly becoming just another mundane part of regular life in America, no different than our society's relationship with alcohol.
Think of all the "vice" cops of a past age who fought against marijuana. What was the point? It's increasingly clear now that there was none. It was just a taboo enforced at the point of a gun, a massive waste of resources, and not a hill worth fighting for. Those in authority today in America should reflect on that case, and whether there are any other hills (cough prostitution cough) not worth fighting for.
If we take a more rational view of these issues, then those groups who have historically been adversaries can actually be allies, and then we can successfully combat those who we all acknowledge are the true enemy, namely those people who coerce and abuse women. I know I'm largely preaching to the choir with this, but maybe there are some lurkers here for which this will be a fresh argument to their ears.
Is this new Allure in and outcall just the girl in the picture on the horse?
[QUOTE=BigWaffle;4496693]Sorry to hear of the recent bust in Northbrook. It's a shame to see the government wasting resources in this way. These ladies aren't hurting anyone. In the overwhelming majority of cases, they willingly provide a valuable, consensual service, which is perfectly legal in many well-functioning societies around the world, and which is perennial to humanity.
Additionally, in many cases when these busts occur, the authorities just end up taking away the only source of decent income that these women have, and reinforcing the perception many of them rightly have, which is that the authorities are not their allies. An undesirable consequence of this is that in the rare cases where the women are actually coerced, they do not feel comfortable going to the authorities for help. The solution? Bring this industry out of the darkness and into the light of the legal free market.
Maybe in the future, America will trend toward a more rational and liberal view about these issues. But as it is, we're living in a society that retains some archaic Puritan taboos, and you have to be a little careful here. As someone who has spent a lot of my life in Europe, I find the American attitude toward a lot of this stuff amusingly bizarre, and detrimental.
I sometimes wonder, do the cops involved with these "vice" departments even really believe in what they're doing? I suspect a lot of them just fall into it, and see it as a stimulating way to make a living (there's no doubt that it's fun to go undercover and feel like a spy on a righteous mission. It's definitely more fun than say, tax law, for most people). But I doubt they can give anything beyond a superficial rationale for what they're doing. Undoubtedly, many of them have something of a "white knight" attitude where they think they're saving women from a miserable and debauched life. But of course in reality, as you guys know, the majority of these women voluntarily choose this lifestyle, and some of them positively enjoy it as a way to make a living. I mean, if you're an uneducated woman and you have a liberal view of sexuality, it probably beats flipping burgers or working in retail for minimum wage, right?
Think of how the attitude toward marijuana has changed in a matter of what, a few decades? It was unironically considered by many to be the Devil's lettuce. A way for dark and evil forces to enter or influence a person (reefer madness!). However today, even to most conservative-minded people, that way of thinking seems so absurd and outmoded, and local governments are eagerly fighting for the spoils of marijuana revenue! Now it's rapidly becoming just another mundane part of regular life in America, no different than our society's relationship with alcohol.
Think of all the "vice" cops of a past age who fought against marijuana. What was the point? It's increasingly clear now that there was none. It was just a taboo enforced at the point of a gun, a massive waste of resources, and not a hill worth fighting for. Those in authority today in America should reflect on that case, and whether there are any other hills (cough prostitution cough) not worth fighting for.
If we take a more rational view of these issues, then those groups who have historically been adversaries can actually be allies, and then we can successfully combat those who we all acknowledge are the true enemy, namely those people who coerce and abuse women. I know I'm largely preaching to the choir with this, but maybe there are some lurkers here for which this will be a fresh argument to their ears.[/QUOTE]Once in NWI there was a massage parlor that was offering "extras". After an investigation of said establishment that lasted for 3 months it was finally raided and shut down. A three month investigation? That my friends is a vast misallocation of resources.
[QUOTE=ManTooth;4498638]Once in NWI there was a massage parlor that was offering "extras". After an investigation of said establishment that lasted for 3 months it was finally raided and shut down. A three month investigation? That my friends is a vast misallocation of resources.[/QUOTE]The investigators and their friends HAD to have their fun before shutting it down.
[QUOTE=ManTooth;4498638]Once in NWI there was a massage parlor that was offering "extras". After an investigation of said establishment that lasted for 3 months it was finally raided and shut down. A three month investigation? That my friends is a vast misallocation of resources.[/QUOTE]As horny as they must have been, it's good they weren't around any elementary schools.
[QUOTE=DomCorazon;4497096]Is this new Allure in and outcall just the girl in the picture on the horse?[/QUOTE]If you google image search the horse photo, it traces back to a Russian social media profile of a blond 51 year old who goes by Bozhena. I believe that's also the name of the older blond who works in the lower basement on Shermer. I haven't seen her, but it seems to add up. Looks like she also works out of an office in Schaumburg, on Higgins.
For what it's worth, the NB raid was all due to a "neighbor complaint." Somebody on Shermer either didn't like their competitor, or LEO "befriended" a business in a neighboring office to enable the bust. Apparently, the therapist in question was friendly with the other body workers in the complex, so the later seems more likely.
Has anyone been to Maria's? I hear that she has a new 22 year massage therapist.
[QUOTE=Sully1234;4512376]Has anyone been to Maria's? I hear that she has a new 22 year massage therapist.[/QUOTE]Don't waste your time and money. It's a filthy rip off. RTFF.
[QUOTE=Walker333;4513802]Don't waste your time and money. It's a filthy rip off. RTFF.[/QUOTE]Maria's was once run by a Euro manager named Margaret, who passed from a heart attack a few years ago. Her friend Vicky ran, or still runs, CT. It's possible she eventually took control of Maria's as well. If so, she’s running both places into the ground. Its a shame, since she’s nothing but kind and accommodating over the phone.
What happened to Alina, who was always an old reliable at both locations? I was going to Maria's over 15 years ago. It was a no-frills operation even then, albeit with nice talent.
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;4513867]Maria's was once run by a Euro manager named Margaret, who passed from a heart attack a few years ago. Her friend Vicky ran, or still runs, CT. It's possible she eventually took control of Maria's as well. If so, shes running both places into the ground. Its a shame, since shes nothing but kind and accommodating over the phone.
What happened to Alina, who was always an old reliable at both locations? I was going to Maria's over 15 years ago. It was a no-frills operation even then, albeit with nice talent.[/QUOTE]I wonder if Julia is still working their. I had a lot of fun with her before. She had a real nice personality. Their was an extensive menu after a few visits.
Looking for Alisija. She worked at 1290 in NB. Mature, tall short haired brunette. If anyone knows where she went please pm me. Thank you.
Anything to report on Heavenly on Waukegan in Morton Grove? I've had a very good therapeutic massage there from an attractive therapist and wonder if more is available. I didn't press the issue in my session. Pm me if you prefer to stay UTR. Thanks, ZZ.
[QUOTE=ConfuciusMan;4513964]I wonder if Julia is still working their. I had a lot of fun with her before. She had a real nice personality. Their was an extensive menu after a few visits.[/QUOTE]Julia hasn't been there in about a year. Last I was there is was Olga and Maria (I think). Anna was there but haven't heard about her in awhile.
I have a friend who knows a guy that was in an bad accident that left him suffering chronic stiffness in his back. This guy was told that any physical therapy that would help his condition would be covered. This guy also suffers. As do most of us. From chronic stiffness in his front. Being the resourceful guy that this guy is, he would like to find a therapist that can take care of both problems in the same visit. The therapist has to be licensed. Obviously, nobody is going to reimburse charges from"happy endings massage parlor" around the corner. PM me recommendations and I will pass them along!
There are great massage therapists out there that can also take care of a stiff front end. Finding one that could process an insurance claim? That, my friend, would be a unicorn.
[QUOTE=Datsurman;4534454]I have a friend who knows a guy that was in an bad accident that left him suffering chronic stiffness in his back. This guy was told that any physical therapy that would help his condition would be covered. This guy also suffers. As do most of us. From chronic stiffness in his front. Being the resourceful guy that this guy is, he would like to find a therapist that can take care of both problems in the same visit. The therapist has to be licensed. Obviously, nobody is going to reimburse charges from"happy endings massage parlor" around the corner. PM me recommendations and I will pass them along![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gooch;4534836]There are great massage therapists out there that can also take care of a stiff front end. Finding one that could process an insurance claim? That, my friend, would be a unicorn.[/QUOTE]If one finds one and can get it all through medicare then please refer to her as my new best friend!
[QUOTE=ZzTopSterZz;4534188]Anything to report on Heavenly on Waukegan in Morton Grove? I've had a very good therapeutic massage there from an attractive therapist and wonder if more is available. I didn't press the issue in my session. Pm me if you prefer to stay UTR. Thanks, ZZ.[/QUOTE]Just there a few days ago. Drew Amanda (- young brunette, busty, hot, not too smart, boyfriend problems, trying to save money for college. Had her talking and laughing. More talk of needing to save money. Thought I hit the jackpot. Not even a hint of extras. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Massage wasn't that great either. Tipped. 1 and not returning.
Maria's from 2003-2006 ish was an absolute goldmine. I couldn't tell you how much time and resources I spent there. I had kept track of the different masseuses that helped me out, and I was probably at 7 or 8. Gorgeous, accommodating women. Aleena (or Aleenia) was my favorite, who looked like a gorgeous young version of Rose McGowan (brunette, super cute, was learning English). Vicky was amazing in what she could do too. I had her a number of times and she taught me a couple of things I didn't know felt so good. Everyone was super great with their hands. Haven't been there in a decade.
Info has been shared freely in recent years, for Maria's and the various Shermer EMP's. Even still, I rarely see reports about Tat's. They've had the same two north burb locations for quite awhile now, so somebody is keeping them in business. My last visits were with Lianna in NB and Julia near Woodfield. One wasn't my type and the other left me blue balled. They can't be any less worthy for reporting on than CT, 7 H, CTM, or Maria's.
[QUOTE=Pickles13;4543160]Maria's from 2003-2006 ish was an absolute goldmine. I couldn't tell you how much time and resources I spent there. I had kept track of the different masseuses that helped me out, and I was probably at 7 or 8. Gorgeous, accommodating women. Aleena (or Aleenia) was my favorite, who looked like a gorgeous young version of Rose McGowan (brunette, super cute, was learning English). Vicky was amazing in what she could do too. I had her a number of times and she taught me a couple of things I didn't know felt so good. Everyone was super great with their hands. Haven't been there in a decade.[/QUOTE]About 10 years ago there were young, attractive enthusiastic, in / out call, FS providers, mostly Russians. They all are gone long time ago. The place slowly but surly tuned into a filthy rat hole with a bunch of greedy, money hungry, lazy, GPS mts. It's a waste of time and money place.
[QUOTE=Walker333;4548073]About 10 years ago there were young, attractive enthusiastic, in / out call, FS providers, mostly Russians. They all are gone long time ago. The place slowly but surly tuned into a filthy rat hole with a bunch of greedy, money hungry, lazy, GPS mts. It's a waste of time and money place.[/QUOTE]Who's at Marias now? Last time I was there it was Olga, fat, late 30's, would do FS off campus, a really old (late 50's) MT who I never indulged in and a 30's mom that was good looking, in shape, allowed top off and provided a great sensual HJ with whispering encouragement.
[QUOTE=Walker333;4548073]About 10 years ago there were young, attractive enthusiastic, in / out call, FS providers, mostly Russians. They all are gone long time ago. The place slowly but surly tuned into a filthy rat hole with a bunch of greedy, money hungry, lazy, GPS mts. It's a waste of time and money place.[/QUOTE]I wonder if this was even a bit after my time. I was not aware of the outcall option or FS.
I'd always go on a Saturday morning, and sometimes it would be hard to get an appt. You had to call the service and then the older lady would text the masseuse (the always kept the door locked). Funny, my routine was always to park a few blocks away in the residential neighborhood and then walk down to that corner credit union to use the ATM. If there was a wait, I'd walk across the street to Starbucks or that bagel shop to waste time. Ah the good old days.
[QUOTE=Truthfu11;4548890]Who's at Marias now? Last time I was there it was Olga, fat, late 30's, would do FS off campus, a really old (late 50's) MT who I never indulged in and a 30's mom that was good looking, in shape, allowed top off and provided a great sensual HJ with whispering encouragement.[/QUOTE]Are you referring to Kate. Who use to say " Bad boyyy"?