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[QUOTE=Chocophile;4697921]So. What does safe sex look like in the era of a Covid-19 pandemic? Pornhub and FaceTime?
And please don't say it's just a bad flu so who cares. Assume, for this conversation that you want to avoid infection as you want to avoid an STD.[/QUOTE]20,000 deaths from regular flu. Go get a flu shot.
Media hype is the issue.
[QUOTE=Chocophile;4697921]So. What does safe sex look like in the era of a Covid-19 pandemic? Pornhub and FaceTime?
And please don't say it's just a bad flu so who cares. Assume, for this conversation that you want to avoid infection as you want to avoid an STD.[/QUOTE]The same as it did before. This is all media hype. You have greater risk driving to the AMP or to your provider's incall. Wash your hands and get a flu shot.
[QUOTE=Chocophile;4697921]So. What does safe sex look like in the era of a Covid-19 pandemic? Pornhub and FaceTime?
And please don't say it's just a bad flu so who cares. Assume, for this conversation that you want to avoid infection as you want to avoid an STD.[/QUOTE]It may be tough soon for the bodyrub business by its nature, if one case occurs liked to a bodyrub or its environment.
I'll wait a while to see how this goes.
[QUOTE=MTWilliams911;4697996]20,000 deaths from regular flu. Go get a flu shot.
Media hype is the issue.[/QUOTE]MTWilliams911,
Regarding the recent virus outbreak. Media hype is the issue? Really? No, it's a legit virus in case you haven't heard. There is no vaccine yet in case you haven't heard. Rationalizations won't protect you from the spread of this either in case you haven't heard.
[QUOTE=AssManOfLex;4698468]MTWilliams911,
Regarding the recent virus outbreak. Media hype is the issue? Really? No, it's a legit virus in case you haven't heard. There is no vaccine yet in case you haven't heard. Rationalizations won't protect you from the spread of this either in case you haven't heard.[/QUOTE]This is definitely something to be aware of and and be cautious regarding but guys based on some of the reports and PM's I've gotten in the last few months there are some virus' and other medical things that are a more immediate concern health wise for us especially if you frequent 3rd Street. I've limited myself to basically only 2 girls on 3rd and I play safe with them.
[QUOTE=Chocophile;4697921]So. What does safe sex look like in the era of a Covid-19 pandemic? Pornhub and FaceTime?
And please don't say it's just a bad flu so who cares. Assume, for this conversation that you want to avoid infection as you want to avoid an STD.[/QUOTE]It's passed in much the same way the flu is, casual contact. Shaking hands, breathing too close, etc. So you're as likely to get it from a family member or co-worker as you are from a hooker. Maybe more.
Yes there's media hype, but the virus itself is real, and a real danger. Some statistics are showing it to be more deadly than the flu to some groups of people. It's everyone taking steps that it will keep it from spreading and killing people.
[QUOTE=AssManOfLex;4698468]MTWilliams911,
Regarding the recent virus outbreak. Media hype is the issue? Really? No, it's a legit virus in case you haven't heard. There is no vaccine yet in case you haven't heard. Rationalizations won't protect you from the spread of this either in case you haven't heard.[/QUOTE]Perspective and scale:
If coronavirus kills 10,000 people this year our total deaths from viruses this year would still be less than average as this years normal flu deaths are less than usual. Over 80, take great care. Over 70, take good care. Over 60, be smart. Less than 60 you are more likely to be killed in a car wreck.
If you think this is all media hype, please read this recent front-line testimony from Italy. Italy had only 600 Covid19 patients about a month ago.
[URL]https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1237142891077697538.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Chocophile;4699257]If you think this is all media hype, please read this recent front-line testimony from Italy. Italy had only 600 Covid19 patients about a month ago.
[URL]https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1237142891077697538.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Math.
USA. 34 million flu cases and 20,000 deaths.
USA. Coronavirus known 550 cases and 26 deaths.
Which is a much larger risk to you and your family? (Nearly all deaths in elderly).
Italians are undoubtedly bad at math. The Italian metrics are likely equal to USA.
Easy to overwhelm hospitals in Italy or here in USA. All you need to do is panic.
If the 34 million that had the flu in the USA had all shown up at the hospital due to panic, then there would be chaos just like in Italy.
Panic and not math is the problem. Media not explaining the math as they love a crisis as it equals viewers / readers.
[QUOTE=Chocophile;4699257]If you think this is all media hype, please read this recent front-line testimony from Italy. Italy had only 600 Covid19 patients about a month ago.
[URL]https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1237142891077697538.html[/URL][/QUOTE]It's a completely different culture than in the US. Their sanitation is different, the medical care and hospitals are much different, their definition of cleanliness is different, the cities are smaller and much more compact, Italy are a huge destination for tourists and international business especially for the size of the country. If this was going to happen to a country, Italy would be a top prospect.
[QUOTE=Golf9979;4699652]It's a completely different culture than in the US. Their sanitation is different, the medical care and hospitals are much different, their definition of cleanliness is different, the cities are smaller and much more compact, Italy are a huge destination for tourists and international business especially for the size of the country. If this was going to happen to a country, Italy would be a top prospect.[/QUOTE]Italy is different mostly in that it got infected sooner. US is on the same trajectory (although maybe Louisville will get lucky) . Look at the graph about halfway down this page.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8095485/Will-America-locked-two-weeks.html[/URL]
Also, I'm surprised at how many of you are quoting low fatality rates as a reason not to change behaviors. Yes you will probably survive but that may involve a trip to an ICU with acute respiratory distress. STDs have extremely low fatality rates due to modern medicines but we still take precautions before embracing the human Petri dishes we call sex workers.
[QUOTE=Chocophile;4700641]Italy is different mostly in that it got infected sooner. US is on the same trajectory (although maybe Louisville will get lucky) . Look at the graph about halfway down this page.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8095485/Will-America-locked-two-weeks.html[/URL]
Also, I'm surprised at how many of you are quoting low fatality rates as a reason not to change behaviors. Yes you will probably survive but that may involve a trip to an ICU with acute respiratory distress. STDs have extremely low fatality rates due to modern medicines but we still take precautions before embracing the human Petri dishes we call sex workers.[/QUOTE]Read closer. Not once did anyone say do not change behaviors.
Perspective and Math.
If 40,000 people die from Covid-19 it will be a 60,000 death year from viruses. Not far from recent numbers!
The point is to take precautions especially if you are over 60. However, do not shut down the economy and wet your pants when the math shows that 40,000 coronavirus deaths plus 20,000 flu deaths are not that far off recent annual flu deaths (60,000 in 2018). Panic is silly. Informed and reasoned reaction depending on your age is what is called for. Zero deaths under 10 years old for example. The most at risk group by far is over 80. If you are mongering over 80 you might need to retire until this passes, probably this summer.
People die. Lots every year from viruses.
[QUOTE=MTWilliams911;4700797]Read closer. Not once did anyone say do not change behaviors.
Perspective and Math.
If 40,000 people die from Covid-19 it will be a 60,000 death year from viruses. Not far from recent numbers!
The point is to take precautions especially if you are over 60. However, do not shut down the economy and wet your pants when the math shows that 40,000 coronavirus deaths plus 20,000 flu deaths are not that far off recent annual flu deaths (60,000 in 2018). Panic is silly. Informed and reasoned reaction depending on your age is what is called for. Zero deaths under 10 years old for example. The most at risk group by far is over 80. If you are mongering over 80 you might need to retire until this passes, probably this summer.
People die. Lots every year from viruses.[/QUOTE]If you're still mongering after 80 there's not much that's going to kill you!
[QUOTE=MTWilliams911;4699536]Math.
USA. 34 million flu cases and 20,000 deaths.
USA. Coronavirus known 550 cases and 26 deaths.
[/QUOTE]I think there's some math there that you're missing guy. The fatality rate those numbers suggest. Covid looks to have a mortality rate of about 4%, around 15% with the elderly and infirm. Flu on the other hand has a mortality rate of. 05%. You're throwing around numbers like if only 40,000 die you're assuming only 100,000 will get sick. But this disease seems to be as transmissible as flu if not more so. So let's assume we'll see the same number of cases as flu, 34 million. In that case we're looking at 1,360,000 dead. Now let's imagien worst case scenario, the whole country catches it. With a population of 300 million you're looking at 12 million dead. And now to put all that in perspective let's compare with how many soldiers we lost in WW2, 417,000. This has the potential to be a disaster the likes of which we haven't seen since the Spanish flu. Obviously the last thing we want to do is panic. That helps no one, but to dismiss this as nothing would be a grave mistake.
[QUOTE=Chocophile;4700641]Italy is different mostly in that it got infected sooner. US is on the same trajectory (although maybe Louisville will get lucky) . Look at the graph about halfway down this page.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8095485/Will-America-locked-two-weeks.html[/URL]
Also, I'm surprised at how many of you are quoting low fatality rates as a reason not to change behaviors. Yes you will probably survive but that may involve a trip to an ICU with acute respiratory distress. STDs have extremely low fatality rates due to modern medicines but we still take precautions before embracing the human Petri dishes we call sex workers.[/QUOTE]Are you seriously using the Daily Mail as your source? At least use a US source like the National Enquirer for god sakes!