"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=TopGun9;6696744]Just got off the chat with their Customer Service. They refused to remove the hold or re-instate my account without the verification.

But they did agree to provide a refund (prorated).

At least I get most of my money back.

Such a pain in the ass with this site, but like you said they are the best option around.[/QUOTE]Sorry for all of the BS you went through, but good to see you are getting some funds returned!

I suspect the best you can do at this point is take the steps guys who got banned in the past took to get back on the site:

[U]To Set Up a "new" SA profile[/U]

New burner number.
New burner email addy.
Use a VPN to hide your IP Addy.
Use a different CC or use a prepaid / gift card.
Some say change your MAC address, but this has other issues.
Use new photos and none that were posted on the site. Might make sense to do some searches on your photos using various methods.

Basically try to look like a new or different person and leave or have no trail or trace-back to the old "needs verification" profile.

Might be other steps as it's been a while since SA hard banned dudes and those wanting to get back on had to go to extreme measures.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=TopGun9;6697539]I think this been around for a while. I've seen previous reports from others on here.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but I renewed recently after a lengthy absence and had no such verification requirement, that in spite the fact that my profile was once banned and I was able to cajole CS into reinstating me.

So not sure how universal or consistent this "policy" maybe?

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6697634]Sorry for all of the BS you went through, but good to see you are getting some funds returned!

I suspect the best you can do at this point is take the steps guys who got banned in the past took to get back on the site:

[U]To Set Up a "new" SA profile[/U]

New burner number.
New burner email addy.
Use a VPN to hide your IP Addy.
Use a different CC or use a prepaid / gift card.
Some say change your MAC address, but this has other issues.
Use new photos and none that were posted on the site. Might make sense to do some searches on your photos using various methods.[/QUOTE]And stop paying with your bank debit card, LOL.

I posted about it in the other forum.

Not sure why you need to change MAC, unless one installs something from a website, your MAC is not available to a website.

Of course Easier to change MAC if one uses a VMs, and use Bridged networking rather than NAT (if you're not using a VM).

Can also run fingerprint scans once in a while to see if your machine fingerprint changes often.

But just a VPN, diff number / email, pic should do.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;6698146]And stop paying with your bank debit card, LOL.

I posted about it in the other forum.

Not sure why you need to change MAC, unless one installs something from a website, your MAC is not available to a website.

Of course Easier to change MAC if one uses a VMs, and use Bridged networking rather than NAT (if you're not using a VM).

Can also run fingerprint scans once in a while to see if your machine fingerprint changes often.

But just a VPN, diff number / email, pic should do.[/QUOTE]Hey Joe, Thanks for your input and expertise! I'm no expert, just reporting what I've gleaned from years of posters getting kicked off SA and wanting to get back on. (and a "standard procedure/advice that evolved over the years, rightly or wrongly)

Yeah, changing MAC address seems extreme, but some in the past have sworn that SA "sees" that and uses it to keep banned dudes from returning. Same of the computer "fingerprint".

So you info is valuable and appreciated!

BTW. IF I wanted to run a fingerprint scan, how would I do that? LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bc5d5423-50bd-4267-9cce-866cc7f786a9[/URL]

This one is a scam, as you can see very pretty gal, messaged back and forth asked for another pic on the site, said this is her friends account -the pic she sent was a Asian lady from China, I blocked immediately. I've noticed this type of scam in the Richmond area over last year. Good luck.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4cdc84a9-fcb6-4dd8-a89f-0a04b40e37c3[/URL]

Anyone have any experience with this lady? Been messaging with her. I will report back if we get together. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6698393]Hey Joe, Thanks for your input and expertise! I'm no expert, just reporting what I've gleaned from years of posters getting kicked off SA and wanting to get back on. (and a "standard procedure/advice that evolved over the years, rightly or wrongly)

Yeah, changing MAC address seems extreme, but some in the past have sworn that SA "sees" that and uses it to keep banned dudes from returning. Same of the computer "fingerprint".

So you info is valuable and appreciated!

BTW. IF I wanted to run a fingerprint scan, how would I do that? LOL.[/QUOTE]As Topgun9 found out the hard way was SA has partnered with a very stout fraud detection platform [URL]Au10tix.com[/URL] to verify users. That being said good luck trying signup giving false information / payment type or using VPN or Spoofing device fingerprinting. You may be able to log-in once but the second time you log-in the platform will flag your account on hold until you provide verification as what happened toTopgun9. But I'm surprised they now want to verify with government I'd when a real "bank" credit card should suffice for I'd verification if you provided (somewhat?) correct information when you signed up. I'm only guessing if payment went through but you were flagged for some reason or another for being a bad actor, I'm assuming they want a Gov Id for Pii and profile biometric face identity verification to allow you to continue use SA.

[QUOTE=DarkStar58;6698743]As Topgun9 found out the hard way was SA has partnered with a very stout fraud detection platform [URL]Au10tix.com[/URL] to verify users. That being said good luck trying signup giving false information / payment type or using VPN or Spoofing device fingerprinting. You may be able to log-in once but the second time you log-in the platform will flag your account on hold until you provide verification as what happened toTopgun9. But I'm surprised they now want to verify with government I'd when a real "bank" credit card should suffice for I'd verification if you provided (somewhat?) correct information when you signed up. I'm only guessing if payment went through but you were flagged for some reason or another for being a bad actor, I'm assuming they want a Gov Id for Pii and profile biometric face identity verification to allow you to continue use SA.[/QUOTE]Yeah, they are asking for way for too much info, for a dating / escort site.

It's not like we're entering Federal buildings or airports.

I have had accounts banned in the past, and got back on just fine with new email / accounts, etc. Usually works best if I go to Starbuck / Dunkin and use their Wifi to sign up and pay for Premium.

This is just a pain in the ass having to start from scratch again. Creating new email accounts, finding new payment methods, writing your profile again, messaging members, etc.

[QUOTE=DarkStar58;6698743]As Topgun9 found out the hard way was SA has partnered with a very stout fraud detection platform [URL]Au10tix.com[/URL] to verify users. That being said good luck trying signup giving false information / payment type or using VPN or Spoofing device fingerprinting. You may be able to log-in once but the second time you log-in the platform will flag your account on hold until you provide verification as what happened toTopgun9. But I'm surprised they now want to verify with government I'd when a real "bank" credit card should suffice for I'd verification if you provided (somewhat?) correct information when you signed up. I'm only guessing if payment went through but you were flagged for some reason or another for being a bad actor, I'm assuming they want a Gov Id for Pii and profile biometric face identity verification to allow you to continue use SA.[/QUOTE]IDK what your expertise is, but I don't find your statements consistent w / my experience on seeking or what I have read here from others.

I have a complete sugar identity I have used w / the site since the word go, a real address that isn't mine, a name that isn't mine, etc. I have never had any problems. I always use prepaid debit cards, and have posted multiple times for guys as to what cards will work on the site.

I have used browsers w / built-in VPN to access the site, including Tor, and I have used vanilla browsers in stealth mode (no saving of history) to keep my machine clean of evidence of my activities. If doing that, I use a separate VPN into a large corporate server. I find Tor can sometimes be very slow to access sites, I assume this is because one of the nodes that you bounce among could be a machine with limited bandwidth, you have no control over that.

It is flat out not true that seeking is now demanding verification of identity (w / government identification) from all of its users. They only do this for people they get suspicious about. Either because they were reported, or perhaps they scan their messages or profiles.

I wanted to give secret benefits a shot even though I've heard seeking is better. Has anyone paid for credits on there with a prepaid card? The prepaid cards that work on seeking for me don't work on secret benefits.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6699399]IDK what your expertise is, but I don't find your statements consistent w / my experience on seeking or what I have read here from others.

I have a complete sugar identity I have used w / the site since the word go, a real address that isn't mine, a name that isn't mine, etc. I have never had any problems. I always use prepaid debit cards, and have posted multiple times for guys as to what cards will work on the site.

I have used browsers w / built-in VPN to access the site, including Tor, and I have used vanilla browsers in stealth mode (no saving of history) to keep my machine clean of evidence of my activities. If doing that, I use a separate VPN into a large corporate server. I find Tor can sometimes be very slow to access sites, I assume this is because one of the nodes that you bounce among could be a machine with limited bandwidth, you have no control over that.

It is flat out not true that seeking is now demanding verification of identity (w / government identification) from all of its users. They only do this for people they get suspicious about. Either because they were reported, or perhaps they scan their messages or profiles.[/QUOTE]I have been on and off SA for a number of years, I've been verified without any issues, I'm single. I absolutely understand the circumstances are challenging if you are married. I don't have absolute expertise just basic knowledge on how still waters run deep. Enjoy and have fun with your Endeavors on SA.

What makes you think that? I talked to her a few weeks ago and she didn't seem like she was. I assume this is taylor.

[QUOTE=Tidad;6694747]When a junkie hooker gets clean, they usually pack on the lbs and leave sexy behind but here's an exception. She is looking much hotter than before; I still refuse to pay SD rates for $40 pussy. In the good old days she and her sister did $100 outcall doubles. Miss that.[/QUOTE]

Bought a Play Card on Amazon then tried to add it to my Google Play account and it keep giving me error.

Anyone have the same problem? Tried on both the laptop and the Play app.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/30447238-ced4-4a0e-ab2b-e275bcdcc217[/URL]

She reached out to me today with her phone number and let's meet in Richmond, anyone have any experience with her. Thank you!

[QUOTE=ILikeHotWomen;6700144]What makes you think that? I talked to her a few weeks ago and she didn't seem like she was. I assume this is taylor.[/QUOTE]She had been claiming to be clean and going to meetings, but that was a while ago. Who knows what she's doing now? All I know is I've wrecked that snapper for relatively cheap over the years and she's trying to get top tier pricing now. No thanks.

Anyone got the latest discount code for SA?

[QUOTE=Bugs2455;6699651]I wanted to give secret benefits a shot even though I've heard seeking is better. Has anyone paid for credits on there with a prepaid card? The prepaid cards that work on seeking for me don't work on secret benefits.[/QUOTE]From the SB site FAQ:

Can I use a prepaid credit, debit, or gift card to pay for credits?

CCBill, our payment processor, does accept prepaid Visa, Mastercard, Discover, and JCB cards. However, many of them are not configured for online purchases by default, and they also need to be able to make international transactions.

If you decide to use a prepaid card, please contact the card provider (the contact number should be on the back of the card) to make sure that they allow for online and international transactions.

If you've tried to buy credits using a prepaid card but it's been declined, please contact CCBill, they should be able to tell you the reason for the decline. They can be contacted as follows:

● 24/7 Support line 1-888-596-9279.

● [EMAIL]consumersupport@ccbill.com[/EMAIL].

● [URL]https://support.ccbill.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=DarkStar58;6698743]As Topgun9 found out the hard way was SA has partnered with a very stout fraud detection platform [URL]Au10tix.com[/URL] to verify users. That being said good luck trying signup giving false information / payment type or using VPN or Spoofing device fingerprinting. You may be able to log-in once but the second time you log-in the platform will flag your account on hold until you provide verification as what happened toTopgun9. But I'm surprised they now want to verify with government I'd when a real "bank" credit card should suffice for I'd verification if you provided (somewhat?) correct information when you signed up. I'm only guessing if payment went through but you were flagged for some reason or another for being a bad actor, I'm assuming they want a Gov Id for Pii and profile biometric face identity verification to allow you to continue use SA.[/QUOTE]I can understand SA's "need" to verify guys in case of assault, etc, but it doesn't seem they are verifying the women the same way. SA is chock full of female scammers. Is this need to verify I'd only apply to men? Doesn't really seem fair. I also can see why some men here feel they need to shield their true identity.

[QUOTE=Bugs2455;6699651]I wanted to give secret benefits a shot even though I've heard seeking is better. Has anyone paid for credits on there with a prepaid card? The prepaid cards that work on seeking for me don't work on secret benefits.[/QUOTE]I have had the same experience. I have never found a prepaid that worked there. I only tried a few. I do think it is a trial-and-error process, and I have followed these boards for years, no one has ever described a process that works. Perhaps that site is only for single guys who will use their IRL credit cards.

One card that works on seeking is the blackhawk prepaid, IDK if I have ever heard of someone trying that on secret benefits. Someone should TOFTT.

[QUOTE=OriolesMagic;6701635]I can understand SA's "need" to verify guys in case of assault, etc, but it doesn't seem they are verifying the women the same way. SA is chock full of female scammers. Is this need to verify I'd only apply to men? Doesn't really seem fair. I also can see why some men here feel they need to shield their true identity.[/QUOTE]SA allows these female scammers to run rampant, but you let a paying male member do the least little thing out of line and they slap our hands or ban us. My account was put on hold until I submitted to the verification process. I told them to delete my profile and stick their scamming site up their ass. I have enough contacts to last for awhile. I think SA needs to reexamine their priorities. Making it tough on paying members doesn't seem like good business sense.

[QUOTE=DrSugarD;6701820]SA allows these female scammers to run rampant, but you let a paying male member do the least little thing out of line and they slap our hands or ban us. My account was put on hold until I submitted to the verification process. I told them to delete my profile and stick their scamming site up their ass. I have enough contacts to last for awhile. I think SA needs to reexamine their priorities. Making it tough on paying members doesn't seem like good business sense.[/QUOTE]What they are doing makes impeccable business sense. They are getting rid of riff-raff guys who are going to patronize escorts who come on the site, and approach the non-pros on the site as if they are garden-variety hookers. That prevents the whole seeking site from getting shut down under the FOSTA / SESTA law. This is why all this stuff is happening. They are there to make a buck, but they can only do that if they are permitted into the lucrative US market.

That you are paying means nothing. That you aren't getting them in Dutch w / John Law is everything.

[QUOTE=Eagle7415;6700928][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/30447238-ced4-4a0e-ab2b-e275bcdcc217[/URL]

She reached out to me today with her phone number and let's meet in Richmond, anyone have any experience with her. Thank you![/QUOTE]Me too. I had messaged her 14 days ago. She pushed hard for me to see her right away. Thought it was TGTBT so wasn't biting. She wanted to do FaceTime. I said I'd do SnapChat. She asked what's the difference.

FaceTime is my real cell number, my SnapChat has my Google Voice fake info. Felt like a set up for sure. Then again, if someone reports they went to the FC with her & she's real, I'll be bummed!

I'm either blocked or she deleted her profile.

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;6704182]Me too. I had messaged her 14 days ago. She pushed hard for me to see her right away. Thought it was TGTBT so wasn't biting. She wanted to do FaceTime. I said I'd do SnapChat. She asked what's the difference.

FaceTime is my real cell number, my SnapChat has my Google Voice fake info. Felt like a set up for sure. Then again, if someone reports they went to the FC with her & she's real, I'll be bummed!

I'm either blocked or she deleted her profile.[/QUOTE]Waaaaay too hot with really REALLY nice pics. No reason for her to be reaching to random dudes. With her looks, her inbox is BURIED and now her profile has gone away. Setup of some type for SURE. LEO? Deposit scam? It really doesn't matter which. They are both BS, just different flavors.

[QUOTE=Eagle7415;6700928][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/30447238-ced4-4a0e-ab2b-e275bcdcc217[/URL]

She reached out to me today with her phone number and let's meet in Richmond, anyone have any experience with her. Thank you![/QUOTE]So, I Googled her digits & up popped her escort ad. I have no issues with her being an escort, I'm looking for sex with someone in her prime & hot. Ya, I'm shallow like that!

Been texting, but the same issue, insists on FaceTime. That's my real cell number, er, no thanks! Won't do SnapChat, which is tied to my play number. Even offered to do a verification pic, like doing something she tells me to do, like put your hand on top of your head.

Super hot pics & videos in her ad, but I'm thinking with my big head today.

[URL]https://callescort.org/804-547-5293[/URL]

How did you get Premium access for one hour?

[QUOTE=GeechieDan;6667667]I don't know if this has been brought up, but Seeking is doing this thing where they will give you premium access for 1 hr. I've done it about 3 times today already. Made a few connections, and didn't pay a dime.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NiteLifed69;6705800]How did you get Premium access for one hour?[/QUOTE]This was a promotion from Seeking. I reup on all new SB without paying for the subscription. I'm hoping they do the same thing for Christmas.

Looking for recommendations on non traceable phone for hobbying.

Thanks CM.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;6706260]Looking for recommendations on non traceable phone for hobbying.

Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]I have posted a bunch on this, someone should move the posts into the archive.

Anyway, it's called a burner. I like TracFone. Costs like $80/ yr if you are mostly using Google voice as you should be.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4...d-5a2f260f193a[/URL]

Not a shocker about this one, I knew she was going to ask for money for a Uber before the date so I had some fun and tried to waste her time. She said she was in Richmond attending VCU which I knew it was fake bc I followed her on IG and her stories said she was still in Maryland. So that were I tried to have as much fun as possible by asking for Pictures and hoping to get nudes. No nudes sadly. But after two weeks of bs around I finally set a date for us to meet which I knew it wasn't going to happen. She waited to text me 30 minutes before our date that she needs help with getting an uber. But the location of the restaurant we were suppose to go to was 40 minutes away from VCU. She didn't know that I'm an alumni from VCU so when I said ill send the Uber to pick her up and that if she is leaving on camp like she told me she was ill send it to the main hall pick up. She had no idea were that was. SMH.

I don't mind sharing her number or her IG if you guys want it but we all know she isn't doing any meet ups and if you want nudes she is going to ask for something first before sending anything.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;6706260]Looking for recommendations on non traceable phone for hobbying.

Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]Key is the purchase and set-up of the burner phone. Then how and where on line you use it! Stay AWAY from FB or any Meta product!

There is this site for ostensibly selling 'used' panties:

[URL]https://pantydeal.com[/URL]

Anyone have any luck turning these into SBs? I have gotten into messaging w / some girls here, even gotten pics and vids sent to me, but no meetings.

Has anyone met her? I've read reports about communications with her, but I want to know about actual performance.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/59f74119-d6ce-4252-887b-7046f36ccd7c[/URL]

I wouldn't waste my time on that. The kind of girls on these sites are the ones looking for quick cash with no effort, the likelihood of meeting them is very low. Even if the girls agreeing to meet would not be "True SB" type. Just my 2 cents.

Play Safe.

Dr. S.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6707678]There is this site for ostensibly selling 'used' panties:

[URL]https://pantydeal.com[/URL]

Anyone have any luck turning these into SBs? I have gotten into messaging w / some girls here, even gotten pics and vids sent to me, but no meetings.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TopGun9;6708510]I've found that Google image search is much better than Tineye.

So many times that Tineye gave me ZERO results, Google found a bunch of matches.

Are you guys experiencing the same?[/QUOTE]Yes, same experience.

[QUOTE=GeechieDan;6708104]Has anyone met her? I've read reports about communications with her, but I want to know about actual performance.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/59f74119-d6ce-4252-887b-7046f36ccd7c[/URL][/QUOTE]Saw her once and she was very mechanical. Definitely larger than her pictures and would not see her again.

So out of the blue I was favorited by this sugary baby [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/91a11918-0cec-4d2a-9884-8e2341134124.[/URL] Not sure if she even is real but has anyone seen her?

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;6709414]So out of the blue I was favorited by this sugary baby [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/91a11918-0cec-4d2a-9884-8e2341134124.[/URL] Not sure if she even is real but has anyone seen her?[/QUOTE]Looks like the profile is already gone.

Chatted on the site for a while today and all was going well. Switched to text and she very quickly let me know that I needed to Cashapp her $50 to show that I'm serious about wanting to meetup. Told her hell no and then she offered to send pics and videos for the 50. Still declined. Surprised she hasn't blocked me yet. Very shallow pool on SA right now.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8aea6063-37b9-4dd1-a73a-97c10063e49b[/URL]

[QUOTE=SBmidlo;6709981]Chatted on the site for a while today and all was going well. Switched to text and she very quickly let me know that I needed to Cashapp her $50 to show that I'm serious about wanting to meetup. Told her hell no and then she offered to send pics and videos for the 50. Still declined. Surprised she hasn't blocked me yet. Very shallow pool on SA right now.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8aea6063-37b9-4dd1-a73a-97c10063e49b[/URL][/QUOTE]Not NEARLY hot enough to be playing bs games. She looks like she just finished doing yard work but she wants hot girl money? No chance.

I've previously done 3 month one time payments on seeking with prepaid cards. Do prepaid cards also work for subscription payments? Seeking has one month options available for subscription but only 3 months for one time payment.