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[QUOTE=Lakers2010; 1456783]Hey guys:

I would appreciate any help you guys could give me. After reading all your experiences I was expecting a good time. But I felt like VIP took my money and didn't even really try to make me feel comfortable and and provide me with good service. If I did something wrong during the experience, then I understand and I will own up to it. But if I didn't, I'm still confused as to why my experience with Hana was so bad and the mamasan wasn't even trying to talk to me to help me out.[/QUOTE]That biatch said what! She actually said "ew gross" & asked if you do drugs cus you lost wood! What would Wayne Brady do in this situation?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc5OZVvD4Jo[/url]

Makes me wunna start a VIP thread & make the 1st post AVOID HANA! Cus it has been stated time & time again that Hana is the worst of the worst at VIP. Maybe the worst, period.

U didn't do anything wrong brother. Hana is a total biatch. If you read the past reports on her you will see that most, no my bad, ALL had the same crappy attitude & service. This hoe is not YMMV, she is a guarantee shitty lay. But it is a bit naive to think that after you got a massage, a CBJ, AND a couple of sex positions that you would get 100 back. Or that mama would help you.

Lots of chicks ask to HJ if the guy is taking too long to cum. (too long in their mnds) U may encounter this again, so don't take it personal or think you did something that made them wunna stop fucking you for some reason. In Hana's mind, she thought CFS wasnt working so a condomless HJ with lube would work better. Little does she know, its her attitude & service that is killing the mood.

It was even a relief to me that she went back to the room with you. Remember now, Hana wanted to finish you with a HJ but at the very least she still did another CBJ too. I have to give her credit for that, but the bad still far outway the good here.

Your only mistake was not going at 5 pm for Million. If you ever decide to go back to VIP, then MILLION or ANGIE or JACKIE would be the only 3 safe bets for a good time. The rest are hit & miss + YMMV, but just my opinion. But seriously, just the sight of Million may make up for anything so just try to get to her some day somehow. Don't settle for another girl. If Million isn't there then go elsewhere. Million is the 2010 Lakers of VIP, no, she's the 1999-2002 Lakers. A "Trampionship" dynasty. Hana is the 2012 Lakers.

[QUOTE=Lakers2010; 1456783]Hey guys:

My apologies in advance if I break a rule of etiquette. I'm a newbie to the hobby and have been reading up on as much stuff as I can to learn from the seasoned hobbyists. Well, after reading a bunch of stuff on this site I decided to try VIP today. I had a horrible time and I'm not sure if I violated some codes or did something wrong. Could you guys give me some input so I won't make the same mistake again? Here's a summary of what happened:

I was at the mall and decided to try VIP out because it was super close and all you guys said it was good. It was 12noon and I called for a 1pm appointment. I asked for Million, but the Mamasan said she won't be in til 5pm. Yes, I know VIP probably doesn't do much business in the day time and my timing may have been poor. (I remember reading this in the day mongering section).

Well, I got in there and greeted the Mamasan in Korean (I'm not Korean, but I can speak a little). She was cool and told me to follow her. I followed her into a room and she asked me if I've been there before. I lied and say yes (after learning about this in the forum) and she ok, give me the house fee. I then handed over. 5. I got fully undressed immediately (like you guys said in the other forums) and I laid on the bed with a towel covering jr. Five minutes later this girl name Hana comes in. L. 7, she had a nice rack, but her tummy was kinda flabby, her face was a 6-6. 5, (she never smiled ONCE) , A- 1, S-1 (sorry if I may be harsh, I was just shocked at how she treated me).

The first thing Hana asks me is "can I have the money" and she was rubbing her fingers together. Her english was really broken and she tried to speak to me in Korean, but I couldn't really understand, so I told her to speak in english. I got up and pulled out $.5 from my shorts on the chair and I gave it to her. (guys, was this a mistake? Giving her the $ first?). She then walks out and comes back in 5 minutes later and tells me to turn over for a massage. (I was on my back at the time just waiting for her and I wanted to chat with her a bit first because I got a bad vibe the very first moment she walked in the room. She didn't smile when I said hi and I asked her what's wrong. She then says "I just woke up." I told her I'm sorry, but you look very beautiful. She didn't even acknowledge my comment and she had this frown on her face.)

So she comes back in after I give her the $.5 and starts to give me a massage. I told her "that feels good" when it did feel good and she massaged me for about 5 minutes. Then she tapped me on the leg and so I turned over. She then straddled my leg and started kissing my nips which felt damn good and she was stroking jr. With some lotion in her other hand. After about a minute she then goes into a brief, probably two sucks BBBJ, then immediate slips on the jimmy and goes into CBJ. After jr. Was awake she got into CG and didn't make any noise or even try to fake she was enjoying this at all. I tried to touch her rack and she brushed my hands away. I then put my hands on her hips and she was ok with that. But the whole time she was silent and was always looking away from me at the wall. I kinda lost my hard on and she got off and wanted to switch to mish. She strokes jr. A bit to get him up again and I was in her in mish. While in mish I tried kissing her tits and she squirmed away, then I went up to kiss her neck and she said "ew gross". And the whole time we were in mish she was looking at the wall with half her hair covering her face. At this point I didn't know what was wrong and I kinda felt awkward and I was thinking to myself "what the fuck did I do wrong?" so I lost jr. And at this point I just laid next to Hana not saying a word.

She then said "hand ok?" and at this point I said no and asked her what's wrong? She said nothing was wrong and asked me if I did any drugs because I lost my hard on twice. I said no I didn't, but that I didn't understand why she was so unhappy? She then was silent and stared straight at me with the same frown she had in the beginning and then said time is almost up. At this point I got annoyed and said ok, you can have. 5, but I want my $. Back. She then said I'm crazy and she started getting dressed. I then started getting dressed then went out to the mamasan and I told her there was an issue. I was very calm the whole time to mamasan and I just told her that something was wrong with Hana. Hana then started saying all this stuff in Korean and the mamasan told me time is almost up.

I told mamasan ok, that's fine, I understand, just give me $. Back and you can keep the. 5. The mamasan then walked away into the kitchen area and Hana told me that the mamasan was too busy. Mamasan was folding towels on the bench right when you first walk in and I knew she wasn't busy. Then another girl with a towel wrapped around her chest walked out and said what's wrong? Then Hana started speaking korean to her and she the girl in the towel gave me a frown and left. Then I asked Hana what she wanted to do? Then she said, time is up, time is up. I really wanted to lose my cool and start yelling at her, but I decided otherwise. I then told Hana, let's go back int he room for 10 more minutes. She obliged, followed me into the room and we both got undressed. I laid on my back and she started kissing my nips and rubbing jr. With the lotion again, after jr. Got up, but not all the way up because I couldn't really get into it, she started doing CBJ. She was doing CBJ on the side of me and I asked her to 69. She scooted over a little bit and I started massaging her tits, she then said "no touch, just look" and continued with the CBJ. At this point I had to concentrate to feel really good bc the whole experience was so bad already. I closed my eyes and after a couple minutes I finished into the jimmy. She took it off then went to get a warm towel. She wiped me down then started to get dressed. All this time she didn't look at me or even talk to me. I then got up and started to get dressed and she didn't even wait for me. She left the room. So after I got dressed I walked down the hallway and saw the mamasan on the couch folding towels again. I didn't see Hana and didn't know where she went. I just said "thank you" in korean to the mamasan and walked out of there.

I would appreciate any help you guys could give me. After reading all your experiences I was expecting a good time. But I felt like VIP took my money and didn't even really try to make me feel comfortable and and provide me with good service. If I did something wrong during the experience, then I understand and I will own up to it. But if I didn't, I'm still confused as to why my experience with Hana was so bad and the mamasan wasn't even trying to talk to me to help me out.[/QUOTE]Damn man. Damn. The biggest mistake was that you had Hana at VIP. This Hana is that bad? A number of guys on here had bad experiences with Hana. In fact, I don't think anyone reported ever having a good experience with her. You probably didn't know about this Hana. Therefore, you just decided to follow through.

You should have bailed based on initial impression of her. No smile, asking for the tip upfront while rubbing her fingers. Bad signs already. Don't be shame to ask for another girl or walk out even though you're undressed wrapped only in a towel and handed MS the HF. If you feel a bad vibe from the beginning, there's a strong chance of it not going well.

If you're a complete noob, stick to well reviewed providers first. Can I recommend a Monica or Coco? Maybe. Or, maybe not. Why? Because not all guys will opt for BBBJ and BBFS from a provider on his first visit to an AMP. He may freak out. Plus, he may find them too MILF to bother. It maybe too much for a person to do on his first time. New guys to AMPs are typically on the younger side. There's a number of new guys who are afraid to even do CFS and just want to try HJ first and then later do FS. They just want a feel for how it it's like to go through the process.

Stick with well reviewed providers like Sugar at Nirvanas, Sugar at Kison, Candy at Pink, Mona at Ginza, Jio at GQ type providers. These girls are very friendly and not the moody, uptight providers. They are also pretty consistent in terms of service and have seen and had both young / old customers. Some senior members got bad experiences at VIP. VIP is good if you want to try younger providers and you're aware that the service / extras maybe a hit or miss but, you're still willing to gamble and try anyways.

If you become a repeat at VIP, maybe then you'll get better service as the MS and girls are more familiar with you. VIP has alot of foreigners that go there that it's not a big deal to them if the locals don't go there. VIP is not the only place that has young providers. If you had Million instead, you most likely would have had a way better experience than Hana.

[QUOTE=T6650; 1457036]Drinking Coors Light and Soju daily is a sign of meth use? Unusual correlation. I have known Coco for a while, including some time in her private room, and have never seen any sign of meth use. In fact she seems fatigued much of the time since she is willing to get up at any hour to service customers. Lately she actually looks younger than before. Hardly typical if she was using meth.

This is a strong accusation which should not be made unless you can back it up. Speculation on such things is unfair and inappropriate.[/QUOTE]I personal have seen many many many lives destroyed both users and their friends, ex's and family members! Enjoy, have a nice life, I am.

[QUOTE=Member #3973;1455245]Coco has moved from GB next door to Crystal Healing Massage[/QUOTE]IS this the same Coco as before from CHM? The one that liked DFK and BBBJ?

[QUOTE=Lakers2010; 1456783]Hey guys:

My apologies in advance if I break a rule of etiquette. I'm a newbie to the hobby and have been reading up on as much stuff as I can to learn from the seasoned hobbyists. Well, after reading a bunch of stuff on this site I decided to try VIP today. I had a horrible time and I'm not sure if I violated some codes or did something wrong. Could you guys give me some input so I won't make the same mistake again? Here's a summary of what happened:

I was at the mall and decided to try VIP out because it was super close and all you guys said it was good. It was 12noon and I called for a 1pm appointment. I asked for Million, but the Mamasan said she won't be in til 5pm. Yes, I know VIP probably doesn't do much business in the day time and my timing may have been poor. (I remember reading this in the day mongering section).

Well, I got in there and greeted the Mamasan in Korean (I'm not Korean, but I can speak a little). She was cool and told me to follow her. I followed her into a room and she asked me if I've been there before. I lied and say yes (after learning about this in the forum) and she ok, give me the house fee. I then handed over. 5. I got fully undressed immediately (like you guys said in the other forums) and I laid on the bed with a towel covering jr. Five minutes later this girl name Hana comes in. L. 7, she had a nice rack, but her tummy was kinda flabby, her face was a 6-6. 5, (she never smiled ONCE) , A- 1, S-1 (sorry if I may be harsh, I was just shocked at how she treated me).

The first thing Hana asks me is "can I have the money" and she was rubbing her fingers together. Her english was really broken and she tried to speak to me in Korean, but I couldn't really understand, so I told her to speak in english. I got up and pulled out $.5 from my shorts on the chair and I gave it to her. (guys, was this a mistake? Giving her the $ first?). She then walks out and comes back in 5 minutes later and tells me to turn over for a massage. (I was on my back at the time just waiting for her and I wanted to chat with her a bit first because I got a bad vibe the very first moment she walked in the room. She didn't smile when I said hi and I asked her what's wrong. She then says "I just woke up." I told her I'm sorry, but you look very beautiful. She didn't even acknowledge my comment and she had this frown on her face.)

So she comes back in after I give her the $.5 and starts to give me a massage. I told her "that feels good" when it did feel good and she massaged me for about 5 minutes. Then she tapped me on the leg and so I turned over. She then straddled my leg and started kissing my nips which felt damn good and she was stroking jr. With some lotion in her other hand. After about a minute she then goes into a brief, probably two sucks BBBJ, then immediate slips on the jimmy and goes into CBJ. After jr. Was awake she got into CG and didn't make any noise or even try to fake she was enjoying this at all. I tried to touch her rack and she brushed my hands away. I then put my hands on her hips and she was ok with that. But the whole time she was silent and was always looking away from me at the wall. I kinda lost my hard on and she got off and wanted to switch to mish. She strokes jr. A bit to get him up again and I was in her in mish. While in mish I tried kissing her tits and she squirmed away, then I went up to kiss her neck and she said "ew gross". And the whole time we were in mish she was looking at the wall with half her hair covering her face. At this point I didn't know what was wrong and I kinda felt awkward and I was thinking to myself "what the fuck did I do wrong?" so I lost jr. And at this point I just laid next to Hana not saying a word.

She then said "hand ok?" and at this point I said no and asked her what's wrong? She said nothing was wrong and asked me if I did any drugs because I lost my hard on twice. I said no I didn't, but that I didn't understand why she was so unhappy? She then was silent and stared straight at me with the same frown she had in the beginning and then said time is almost up. At this point I got annoyed and said ok, you can have. 5, but I want my $. Back. She then said I'm crazy and she started getting dressed. I then started getting dressed then went out to the mamasan and I told her there was an issue. I was very calm the whole time to mamasan and I just told her that something was wrong with Hana. Hana then started saying all this stuff in Korean and the mamasan told me time is almost up.

I told mamasan ok, that's fine, I understand, just give me $. Back and you can keep the. 5. The mamasan then walked away into the kitchen area and Hana told me that the mamasan was too busy. Mamasan was folding towels on the bench right when you first walk in and I knew she wasn't busy. Then another girl with a towel wrapped around her chest walked out and said what's wrong? Then Hana started speaking korean to her and she the girl in the towel gave me a frown and left. Then I asked Hana what she wanted to do? Then she said, time is up, time is up. I really wanted to lose my cool and start yelling at her, but I decided otherwise. I then told Hana, let's go back int he room for 10 more minutes. She obliged, followed me into the room and we both got undressed. I laid on my back and she started kissing my nips and rubbing jr. With the lotion again, after jr. Got up, but not all the way up because I couldn't really get into it, she started doing CBJ. She was doing CBJ on the side of me and I asked her to 69. She scooted over a little bit and I started massaging her tits, she then said "no touch, just look" and continued with the CBJ. At this point I had to concentrate to feel really good bc the whole experience was so bad already. I closed my eyes and after a couple minutes I finished into the jimmy. She took it off then went to get a warm towel. She wiped me down then started to get dressed. All this time she didn't look at me or even talk to me. I then got up and started to get dressed and she didn't even wait for me. She left the room. So after I got dressed I walked down the hallway and saw the mamasan on the couch folding towels again. I didn't see Hana and didn't know where she went. I just said "thank you" in korean to the mamasan and walked out of there.

I would appreciate any help you guys could give me. After reading all your experiences I was expecting a good time. But I felt like VIP took my money and didn't even really try to make me feel comfortable and and provide me with good service. If I did something wrong during the experience, then I understand and I will own up to it. But if I didn't, I'm still confused as to why my experience with Hana was so bad and the mamasan wasn't even trying to talk to me to help me out.[/QUOTE]Call Kison and make appointment with SUGAR. She has one of the hottest bods out there! She looks to be in her early twenties, has beautiful tanned smooth skin, super flat stomach, and a GREAT C sized rack, that ain't rock hard. She is super sweet and fun to be with. BEWARE thiough, you may be spoiled bodywise forever. There are only a few providers out there with bodies and great attitudes out there, that can compare with her. She's a cutie that will smile and make you happy the entire session. Also, like others have mentioned, Mama Chanel is also a great hostess, and definately makes sure you enjoy your sessions there. Oooops forgot to mention, unlike most of the providers there at Kison, Sugars services are all covered, but I gurantee you a good time. Start dialing!

[QUOTE=Lakers2010; 1456783]Hey guys:

My apologies in advance if I break a rule of etiquette. I'm a newbie to the hobby and have been reading up on as much stuff as I can to learn from the seasoned hobbyists. Well, after reading a bunch of stuff on this site I decided to try VIP today. I had a horrible time and I'm not sure if I violated some codes or did something wrong. Could you guys give me some input so I won't make the same mistake again? Here's a summary of what happened:

I was at the mall and decided to try VIP out because it was super close and all you guys said it was good. It was 12noon and I called for a 1pm appointment. I asked for Million, but the Mamasan said she won't be in til 5pm. Yes, I know VIP probably doesn't do much business in the day time and my timing may have been poor. (I remember reading this in the day mongering section).

Well, I got in there and greeted the Mamasan in Korean (I'm not Korean, but I can speak a little). She was cool and told me to follow her. I followed her into a room and she asked me if I've been there before. I lied and say yes (after learning about this in the forum) and she ok, give me the house fee. I then handed over. 5. I got fully undressed immediately (like you guys said in the other forums) and I laid on the bed with a towel covering jr. Five minutes later this girl name Hana comes in. L. 7, she had a nice rack, but her tummy was kinda flabby, her face was a 6-6. 5, (she never smiled ONCE) , A- 1, S-1 (sorry if I may be harsh, I was just shocked at how she treated me).

The first thing Hana asks me is "can I have the money" and she was rubbing her fingers together. Her english was really broken and she tried to speak to me in Korean, but I couldn't really understand, so I told her to speak in english. I got up and pulled out $.5 from my shorts on the chair and I gave it to her. (guys, was this a mistake? Giving her the $ first?). She then walks out and comes back in 5 minutes later and tells me to turn over for a massage. (I was on my back at the time just waiting for her and I wanted to chat with her a bit first because I got a bad vibe the very first moment she walked in the room. She didn't smile when I said hi and I asked her what's wrong. She then says "I just woke up." I told her I'm sorry, but you look very beautiful. She didn't even acknowledge my comment and she had this frown on her face.)

So she comes back in after I give her the $.5 and starts to give me a massage. I told her "that feels good" when it did feel good and she massaged me for about 5 minutes. Then she tapped me on the leg and so I turned over. She then straddled my leg and started kissing my nips which felt damn good and she was stroking jr. With some lotion in her other hand. After about a minute she then goes into a brief, probably two sucks BBBJ, then immediate slips on the jimmy and goes into CBJ. After jr. Was awake she got into CG and didn't make any noise or even try to fake she was enjoying this at all. I tried to touch her rack and she brushed my hands away. I then put my hands on her hips and she was ok with that. But the whole time she was silent and was always looking away from me at the wall. I kinda lost my hard on and she got off and wanted to switch to mish. She strokes jr. A bit to get him up again and I was in her in mish. While in mish I tried kissing her tits and she squirmed away, then I went up to kiss her neck and she said "ew gross". And the whole time we were in mish she was looking at the wall with half her hair covering her face. At this point I didn't know what was wrong and I kinda felt awkward and I was thinking to myself "what the fuck did I do wrong?" so I lost jr. And at this point I just laid next to Hana not saying a word.

She then said "hand ok?" and at this point I said no and asked her what's wrong? She said nothing was wrong and asked me if I did any drugs because I lost my hard on twice. I said no I didn't, but that I didn't understand why she was so unhappy? She then was silent and stared straight at me with the same frown she had in the beginning and then said time is almost up. At this point I got annoyed and said ok, you can have. 5, but I want my $. Back. She then said I'm crazy and she started getting dressed. I then started getting dressed then went out to the mamasan and I told her there was an issue. I was very calm the whole time to mamasan and I just told her that something was wrong with Hana. Hana then started saying all this stuff in Korean and the mamasan told me time is almost up.

I told mamasan ok, that's fine, I understand, just give me $. Back and you can keep the. 5. The mamasan then walked away into the kitchen area and Hana told me that the mamasan was too busy. Mamasan was folding towels on the bench right when you first walk in and I knew she wasn't busy. Then another girl with a towel wrapped around her chest walked out and said what's wrong? Then Hana started speaking korean to her and she the girl in the towel gave me a frown and left. Then I asked Hana what she wanted to do? Then she said, time is up, time is up. I really wanted to lose my cool and start yelling at her, but I decided otherwise. I then told Hana, let's go back int he room for 10 more minutes. She obliged, followed me into the room and we both got undressed. I laid on my back and she started kissing my nips and rubbing jr. With the lotion again, after jr. Got up, but not all the way up because I couldn't really get into it, she started doing CBJ. She was doing CBJ on the side of me and I asked her to 69. She scooted over a little bit and I started massaging her tits, she then said "no touch, just look" and continued with the CBJ. At this point I had to concentrate to feel really good bc the whole experience was so bad already. I closed my eyes and after a couple minutes I finished into the jimmy. She took it off then went to get a warm towel. She wiped me down then started to get dressed. All this time she didn't look at me or even talk to me. I then got up and started to get dressed and she didn't even wait for me. She left the room. So after I got dressed I walked down the hallway and saw the mamasan on the couch folding towels again. I didn't see Hana and didn't know where she went. I just said "thank you" in korean to the mamasan and walked out of there.

I would appreciate any help you guys could give me. After reading all your experiences I was expecting a good time. But I felt like VIP took my money and didn't even really try to make me feel comfortable and and provide me with good service. If I did something wrong during the experience, then I understand and I will own up to it. But if I didn't, I'm still confused as to why my experience with Hana was so bad and the mamasan wasn't even trying to talk to me to help me out.[/QUOTE]Damn. I would be pissed. What about the tourists, they probly shaking their heads at that kind of service. It kinda sucks how it can be hit or miss and we don't even have the sample half hour special so it's $200 down the drain, unless you have the balls and hand the girl a $20 for service like this. LOL. I've had bad service twice. And it's obvious cause jr can't stay up and I'm wondering why the girl is even working thank god I only tipped $80 and $100 to he girl, first one was because half hour special. Second one cause mama told me it was okay cause that was all I had on me. Should have told me I'd get shittynservice so I would keep my $150 and enjoy it on something better! I rewarded that establishment for the quick theif of my $150 by never going back. Not that I even matter lol. But that's the point.

Whats the latest lineup at Kison besides Monica that provides BB sevice that is good? I know there is yuki, but she is on vacation. PM me if you prefer. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Lakers2010; 1456783]Hey guys:

My apologies in advance if I break a rule of etiquette. I'm a newbie to the hobby and have been reading up on as much stuff as I can to learn from the seasoned hobbyists. Well, after reading a bunch of stuff on this site I decided to try VIP today. I had a horrible time and I'm not sure if I violated some codes or did something wrong. Could you guys give me some input so I won't make the same mistake again? Here's a summary of what happened:

I was at the mall and decided to try VIP out because it was super close and all you guys said it was good. It was 12noon and I called for a 1pm appointment. I asked for Million, but the Mamasan said she won't be in til 5pm. Yes, I know VIP probably doesn't do much business in the day time and my timing may have been poor. (I remember reading this in the day mongering section).

Well, I got in there and greeted the Mamasan in Korean (I'm not Korean, but I can speak a little). She was cool and told me to follow her. I followed her into a room and she asked me if I've been there before. I lied and say yes (after learning about this in the forum) and she ok, give me the house fee. I then handed over. 5. I got fully undressed immediately (like you guys said in the other forums) and I laid on the bed with a towel covering jr. Five minutes later this girl name Hana comes in. L. 7, she had a nice rack, but her tummy was kinda flabby, her face was a 6-6. 5, (she never smiled ONCE) , A- 1, S-1 (sorry if I may be harsh, I was just shocked at how she treated me).

The first thing Hana asks me is "can I have the money" and she was rubbing her fingers together. Her english was really broken and she tried to speak to me in Korean, but I couldn't really understand, so I told her to speak in english. I got up and pulled out $.5 from my shorts on the chair and I gave it to her. (guys, was this a mistake? Giving her the $ first?). She then walks out and comes back in 5 minutes later and tells me to turn over for a massage. (I was on my back at the time just waiting for her and I wanted to chat with her a bit first because I got a bad vibe the very first moment she walked in the room. She didn't smile when I said hi and I asked her what's wrong. She then says "I just woke up." I told her I'm sorry, but you look very beautiful. She didn't even acknowledge my comment and she had this frown on her face.)

So she comes back in after I give her the $.5 and starts to give me a massage. I told her "that feels good" when it did feel good and she massaged me for about 5 minutes. Then she tapped me on the leg and so I turned over. She then straddled my leg and started kissing my nips which felt damn good and she was stroking jr. With some lotion in her other hand. After about a minute she then goes into a brief, probably two sucks BBBJ, then immediate slips on the jimmy and goes into CBJ. After jr. Was awake she got into CG and didn't make any noise or even try to fake she was enjoying this at all. I tried to touch her rack and she brushed my hands away. I then put my hands on her hips and she was ok with that. But the whole time she was silent and was always looking away from me at the wall. I kinda lost my hard on and she got off and wanted to switch to mish. She strokes jr. A bit to get him up again and I was in her in mish. While in mish I tried kissing her tits and she squirmed away, then I went up to kiss her neck and she said "ew gross". And the whole time we were in mish she was looking at the wall with half her hair covering her face. At this point I didn't know what was wrong and I kinda felt awkward and I was thinking to myself "what the fuck did I do wrong?" so I lost jr. And at this point I just laid next to Hana not saying a word.

She then said "hand ok?" and at this point I said no and asked her what's wrong? She said nothing was wrong and asked me if I did any drugs because I lost my hard on twice. I said no I didn't, but that I didn't understand why she was so unhappy? She then was silent and stared straight at me with the same frown she had in the beginning and then said time is almost up. At this point I got annoyed and said ok, you can have. 5, but I want my $. Back. She then said I'm crazy and she started getting dressed. I then started getting dressed then went out to the mamasan and I told her there was an issue. I was very calm the whole time to mamasan and I just told her that something was wrong with Hana. Hana then started saying all this stuff in Korean and the mamasan told me time is almost up.

I told mamasan ok, that's fine, I understand, just give me $. Back and you can keep the. 5. The mamasan then walked away into the kitchen area and Hana told me that the mamasan was too busy. Mamasan was folding towels on the bench right when you first walk in and I knew she wasn't busy. Then another girl with a towel wrapped around her chest walked out and said what's wrong? Then Hana started speaking korean to her and she the girl in the towel gave me a frown and left. Then I asked Hana what she wanted to do? Then she said, time is up, time is up. I really wanted to lose my cool and start yelling at her, but I decided otherwise. I then told Hana, let's go back int he room for 10 more minutes. She obliged, followed me into the room and we both got undressed. I laid on my back and she started kissing my nips and rubbing jr. With the lotion again, after jr. Got up, but not all the way up because I couldn't really get into it, she started doing CBJ. She was doing CBJ on the side of me and I asked her to 69. She scooted over a little bit and I started massaging her tits, she then said "no touch, just look" and continued with the CBJ. At this point I had to concentrate to feel really good bc the whole experience was so bad already. I closed my eyes and after a couple minutes I finished into the jimmy. She took it off then went to get a warm towel. She wiped me down then started to get dressed. All this time she didn't look at me or even talk to me. I then got up and started to get dressed and she didn't even wait for me. She left the room. So after I got dressed I walked down the hallway and saw the mamasan on the couch folding towels again. I didn't see Hana and didn't know where she went. I just said "thank you" in korean to the mamasan and walked out of there.

I would appreciate any help you guys could give me. After reading all your experiences I was expecting a good time. But I felt like VIP took my money and didn't even really try to make me feel comfortable and and provide me with good service. If I did something wrong during the experience, then I understand and I will own up to it. But if I didn't, I'm still confused as to why my experience with Hana was so bad and the mamasan wasn't even trying to talk to me to help me out.[/QUOTE]You did two things wrong:

1. You obviously did not read the forum well enough. Because if you did you would have learned (from the more experienced mongers) such as myself or Hypo and others that paying upfront is an amateur strategy at best. There has been discussion after discussion on this forum on whether to pay upfront or not but on this one subject I am right and that is all there is too it. I never pay upfront ever. Most guys on this forum are too worried about hurting the girls feelings or missing out on service if they don't pay upfront. Do not be like that. Be a man and turn down any girl that asks for the money upfront always. Yes I have missed out on some girls because of that but with the amount of AMP's in Honolulu there is more than enough girls that will not ask upfront. First of all just the fact that she asked upfront tells you in your logical mind that she does not care about or trust the customer. She only cares about the money. Like I said I have beat this dead horse many times. You can look up my past posts on this subject to get more clear detailed logic on why I think this way. I will tell you from personal experience that in the long run you will be extremely thankful for heeding my advice on this one. Once again never ever pay upfront.

2. You trusted the girl to give you good service after you paid her. My second rule. Never ever trust anything these girls say or promise. Once again this is nothing more than a business transaction to her. She doesn't care a rats ass about you or how you feel. Especially once she has your money. Once she has your money she has the power shifted in her hands. All she has to do now is just give you some half ass service and you can complain all you want and it won't matter. Unless she downright refuses to let you bang her you have no say so. Once you stick your dick in her that is all she wrote buddy. It doesn't matter if you cumm or not she can just tell Mama (in Korean so you won't understand) that she tried her best and you were a limp dick. That's it, she fucked you back. What are you going to do? Beat her up or something stupid like that? Your money is gone dude. Look up the definition of liar in the dictionary and her picture is in there.

If you take these two recommendations in mind from now on when you monger you graduate from amateur to professional. These are the main two things you need to remember. 1. Never pay upfront and 2. Never trust anything the girl says. If you do that you will waste a lot less money in the long run.

Now as always I know there are going to be some people on this forum that disagree with me and will try to substantiate some stupid reason to pay upfront or trust the girl. I expect it. That is OK. Like I said before "Great spirits always encounter violent opposition from mediocre minds."

Sorry you had a bad experience. Like you I'm a noob to AMP's and came across this forum just recently. There's a wealth of information here. Read the posts and what the senior members have to say. Stick to the providers with good reviews and you won't go wrong. Of course YMMV but I would recommend not visiting late after the bars close jmho.

Good luck in the future!

[QUOTE=Lakers2010; 1456783]Hey guys:

My apologies in advance if I break a rule of etiquette. I'm a newbie to the hobby and have been reading up on as much stuff as I can to learn from the seasoned hobbyists. Well, after reading a bunch of stuff on this site I decided to try VIP today. I had a horrible time and I'm not sure if I violated some codes or did something wrong. Could you guys give me some input so I won't make the same mistake again? Here's a summary of what happened:

I was at the mall and decided to try VIP out because it was super close and all you guys said it was good. It was 12noon and I called for a 1pm appointment. I asked for Million, but the Mamasan said she won't be in til 5pm. Yes, I know VIP probably doesn't do much business in the day time and my timing may have been poor. (I remember reading this in the day mongering section).

Well, I got in there and greeted the Mamasan in Korean (I'm not Korean, but I can speak a little). She was cool and told me to follow her. I followed her into a room and she asked me if I've been there before. I lied and say yes (after learning about this in the forum) and she ok, give me the house fee. I then handed over. 5. I got fully undressed immediately (like you guys said in the other forums) and I laid on the bed with a towel covering jr. Five minutes later this girl name Hana comes in. L. 7, she had a nice rack, but her tummy was kinda flabby, her face was a 6-6. 5, (she never smiled ONCE) , A- 1, S-1 (sorry if I may be harsh, I was just shocked at how she treated me).

The first thing Hana asks me is "can I have the money" and she was rubbing her fingers together. Her english was really broken and she tried to speak to me in Korean, but I couldn't really understand, so I told her to speak in english. I got up and pulled out $.5 from my shorts on the chair and I gave it to her. (guys, was this a mistake? Giving her the $ first?). She then walks out and comes back in 5 minutes later and tells me to turn over for a massage. (I was on my back at the time just waiting for her and I wanted to chat with her a bit first because I got a bad vibe the very first moment she walked in the room. She didn't smile when I said hi and I asked her what's wrong. She then says "I just woke up." I told her I'm sorry, but you look very beautiful. She didn't even acknowledge my comment and she had this frown on her face.)

So she comes back in after I give her the $.5 and starts to give me a massage. I told her "that feels good" when it did feel good and she massaged me for about 5 minutes. Then she tapped me on the leg and so I turned over. She then straddled my leg and started kissing my nips which felt damn good and she was stroking jr. With some lotion in her other hand. After about a minute she then goes into a brief, probably two sucks BBBJ, then immediate slips on the jimmy and goes into CBJ. After jr. Was awake she got into CG and didn't make any noise or even try to fake she was enjoying this at all. I tried to touch her rack and she brushed my hands away. I then put my hands on her hips and she was ok with that. But the whole time she was silent and was always looking away from me at the wall. I kinda lost my hard on and she got off and wanted to switch to mish. She strokes jr. A bit to get him up again and I was in her in mish. While in mish I tried kissing her tits and she squirmed away, then I went up to kiss her neck and she said "ew gross". And the whole time we were in mish she was looking at the wall with half her hair covering her face. At this point I didn't know what was wrong and I kinda felt awkward and I was thinking to myself "what the fuck did I do wrong?" so I lost jr. And at this point I just laid next to Hana not saying a word.

She then said "hand ok?" and at this point I said no and asked her what's wrong? She said nothing was wrong and asked me if I did any drugs because I lost my hard on twice. I said no I didn't, but that I didn't understand why she was so unhappy? She then was silent and stared straight at me with the same frown she had in the beginning and then said time is almost up. At this point I got annoyed and said ok, you can have. 5, but I want my $. Back. She then said I'm crazy and she started getting dressed. I then started getting dressed then went out to the mamasan and I told her there was an issue. I was very calm the whole time to mamasan and I just told her that something was wrong with Hana. Hana then started saying all this stuff in Korean and the mamasan told me time is almost up.

I told mamasan ok, that's fine, I understand, just give me $. Back and you can keep the. 5. The mamasan then walked away into the kitchen area and Hana told me that the mamasan was too busy. Mamasan was folding towels on the bench right when you first walk in and I knew she wasn't busy. Then another girl with a towel wrapped around her chest walked out and said what's wrong? Then Hana started speaking korean to her and she the girl in the towel gave me a frown and left. Then I asked Hana what she wanted to do? Then she said, time is up, time is up. I really wanted to lose my cool and start yelling at her, but I decided otherwise. I then told Hana, let's go back int he room for 10 more minutes. She obliged, followed me into the room and we both got undressed. I laid on my back and she started kissing my nips and rubbing jr. With the lotion again, after jr. Got up, but not all the way up because I couldn't really get into it, she started doing CBJ. She was doing CBJ on the side of me and I asked her to 69. She scooted over a little bit and I started massaging her tits, she then said "no touch, just look" and continued with the CBJ. At this point I had to concentrate to feel really good bc the whole experience was so bad already. I closed my eyes and after a couple minutes I finished into the jimmy. She took it off then went to get a warm towel. She wiped me down then started to get dressed. All this time she didn't look at me or even talk to me. I then got up and started to get dressed and she didn't even wait for me. She left the room. So after I got dressed I walked down the hallway and saw the mamasan on the couch folding towels again. I didn't see Hana and didn't know where she went. I just said "thank you" in korean to the mamasan and walked out of there.

I would appreciate any help you guys could give me. After reading all your experiences I was expecting a good time. But I felt like VIP took my money and didn't even really try to make me feel comfortable and and provide me with good service. If I did something wrong during the experience, then I understand and I will own up to it. But if I didn't, I'm still confused as to why my experience with Hana was so bad and the mamasan wasn't even trying to talk to me to help me out.[/QUOTE]You may have had a bad experience your first time there due to a perfect storm of problems, paying up front and a notoriously bad provider at VIP. But it is a blessing in disguise. You should have better service elsewhere or even with other VIP girls, like Jackie, going forward. Paying up front is normal at VIP. So you should have gone to just about any other place to avoid that problem.

They should at least pretend to be friendly towards you. No touching or at least light kissing of the titties is a big red flag that you should walk away. Kissing around the face or the lips is a different story. LFK or DFK is not standard service expected of each and every provider for standard tips. Some would do it without a second thought and you do not have to pay extra for it. Others do not like to kiss customers or most customers, and they will freeze up and not respond if you try. In that situation just forget about kissing the lips.

But the biggest blessing in disguise is that you have experienced how it really is under all the marketing and the smoke and mirrors. The girls are there just to make the big bucks and you are just a wallet. I wish I had your experience as my first experience. Instead I had good experiences to start that led to a lot repeats with ATFs, especially the ATF of the ATFs, that were all a waste. The sum of these repeats is much less than its parts. Some mongers carry on "business" with their ATFs for years. Other mongers have rules such as never see a provider more than twice to avoid developing feelings. You can figure out for yourself what is best for you. But don't ever confuse customer service with friendship and a business relationship with a personal relationship.

[QUOTE=Lakers2010; 1456783]Hey guys:

My apologies in advance if I break a rule of etiquette. I'm a newbie to the hobby and have been reading up on as much stuff as I can to learn from the seasoned hobbyists. Well, after reading a bunch of stuff on this site I decided to try VIP today. I had a horrible time and I'm not sure if I violated some codes or did something wrong. Could you guys give me some input so I won't make the same mistake again? Here's a summary of what happened:

I would appreciate any help you guys could give me. After reading all your experiences I was expecting a good time. But I felt like VIP took my money and didn't even really try to make me feel comfortable and and provide me with good service. If I did something wrong during the experience, then I understand and I will own up to it. But if I didn't, I'm still confused as to why my experience with Hana was so bad and the mamasan wasn't even trying to talk to me to help me out.[/QUOTE]Nope, basically you did everything right- & that provider gave you a hard time. Kudos 4 NOT losing your cool. Personally, after being weather tested myself, I would have asked 4 all my fuckin money back. Don't take that kinda shit from nobody next time. If she's giving you a hard time from the get go, leave the room, go straight 2 mama & and ask 4 your house fee back. Don't even pay money upfront.

Last, but not least, change your screen name. Jesus. Go Celtics! Hehe. Kidding!

Braddah H

[QUOTE=Kadi09;1456618]I heard from someone associated with another AMP that CoCo had been partying a bit too much and bringing mongers into the kitchen to drink with her. This became irritating to the other girls as that is their break room. The owner of GB doesn't allow the girls to drink while working.[/QUOTE]I'm guilty of that as Coco invited me to drink with her a few times.

[QUOTE=John Ross;1457185]I'm guilty of that as Coco invited me to drink with her a few times.[/QUOTE]Also seems like Coco likes to party all over. I was talking to one of the girls at Kison about Monica's return to Kison and perhaps the possibility of Coco also coming back, but the provider told me that Coco was getting Chanel pissed off because she would also go to Kison and drink over in their kitchen disrupting the flow of the business. Sounds like Coco is a real party animal. I think she would be a blast to go bar hopping with. Anyway, now that she is back with MS Jun (the party animal ledgend) seems like those girls are going to really rock.

[QUOTE=Blacks; 1456791]Its a sure sign that she's also into daily drug use-meth! [/QUOT.

Blacks I've known Coco a long time she does'nt use meth, she has 2 kids and a sister to support. She drinks when it is slow, stress reliever from her stressful job.

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=Kurocha;1457218]Also seems like Coco likes to party all over. I was talking to one of the girls at Kison about Monica's return to Kison and perhaps the possibility of Coco also coming back, but the provider told me that Coco was getting Chanel pissed off because she would also go to Kison and drink over in their kitchen disrupting the flow of the business. Sounds like Coco is a real party animal. I think she would be a blast to go bar hopping with. Anyway, now that she is back with MS Jun (the party animal ledgend) seems like those girls are going to really rock.[/QUOTE]I am going party with Coco tonight and go bar hopping. Hahahaha.

WB

[QUOTE=Blacks;1457096]I personal have seen many many many lives destroyed both users and their friends, ex's and family members! Enjoy, have a nice life, I am.[/QUOTE]Get off the board, lady. You are not a monger but an ideological abolitionist.

[QUOTE=Starfox64; 1457016]I think I have reported in the past that Hana at VIP is the worst experience you can get at that AMP. You didn't do anything wrong she's just crazy and shouldn't be working in this kind of work. But I'd doubt she'd make it in any other industry.

So if anyone goes to VIP and gets a girl named Hana, ask for another girl right away. When the MS notices all the locals passing on her, she'll get the idea and save her for the tourist.[/QUOTE]If you go VIP & Hana walks in the room, just say "Ew gross!" & tell her to ask mama to send in a pretty girl instead.

Other suggestions you could say are

1)"Nope, nope, too chubby."

2)"Huh? I thought VIP had hot chicks?"

3)"Please, anyone but her. I'll even take mamasan."

4)"U look like you're on drugs. I will not contribute to your habit. Please send in someone clean & sober."

5)"Is Wayne Brady gunna have to choke a bi*ch!"

6) OK this is only cus I just saw this. But, when Hana knocks on your door & opens it, tell her the only way she can come into the room is if she takes her flabby, jelly rolled, belly fold, pooch & does the "Truffle Shuffle"

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=ckVMYbPTRTU&feature=fvwp[/url] Watch till the end.

[QUOTE=Member #3973;1455245]Coco has moved from GB next door to Crystal Healing Massage[/QUOTE]Is this the same Coco who worked at CHM before? The one who likes DFK and BBBJ?

[QUOTE=T6650;1457036]I have known Coco for a while, including some time in her private room, and have never seen any sign of meth use. In fact she seems fatigued much of the time since she is willing to get up at any hour to service customers. Lately she actually looks younger than before. Hardly typical if she was using meth.[/QUOTE]Wow you must be Coco's BF, never heard of getting into thier private room. Did you need to pay the HF if using Coco's private room? I couldn't even get an invite from Cococ to drink with her, I must not be Coco's type, old, fat and ugly hahahaha.

WB

This is late but all I can say is AMEN! Preach on bro! Seeing Julie, Joanne (from Seven) and several other popular poon providers none have matched up to the hype and fantasy exept for Honey IMO.

[QUOTE=V Rider; 1454615]Not to be a disagree-er, but I tried them all.

Honey.

V Rider[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Warburton 0263; 1457421]Wow you must be Coco's BF, never heard of getting into thier private room. Did you need to pay the HF if using Coco's private room? I couldn't even get an invite from Cococ to drink with her, I must not be Coco's type, old, fat and ugly hahahaha.

WB[/QUOTE]She made me tap out few times with her service very intense

[QUOTE=Warburton 0263; 1457421]Wow you must be Coco's BF, never heard of getting into thier private room. Did you need to pay the HF if using Coco's private room? I couldn't even get an invite from Cococ to drink with her, I must not be Coco's type, old, fat and ugly hahahaha.

WB[/QUOTE]Perhaps I was too brief but time spent in Coco's room was fully clothed and revolved around matters not involving the business. I just wanted to counter the false assertion that she was a drug user by stating that I have seen the contents of her room at Golden Butterfly. There was no paraphernalia or other evidence of drug use there. At Crystal, the room is shared. In fact they are packed in like sardines.

I am not her BF, in fact I have not seen her in over a month, but my blood still boils when I see her unjustifiably accused. Believe me I fully qualify as "old, fat and ugly." It could just be that Coco had an upcoming appointment, or was a little hung over. If you want to drink, I suggest you ask Mama Jun if she would like you to bring by a 24 pack of Coors Light (bottles.) I don't think she ever said no.

My respect too for Oculumbo, Alohaoe and others who stuck up for Coco.

Hey Fellas,

Just wanted to thank everyone (Kurocha, H Mobius, Starfox64, Splooge McDuck, Uki Eater, HawaiiHorndog, Carmello, Hinode, Ocolumbo, USukebe2 and Mipene77) for their advice, wisdom and support. I really appreciate the candidness and humor and it made me feel much better about what happened. I know it's dumb, but it was in my head all weekend. I will definitely try to read more and learn from you guys! This is such an awesome forum on USASG.

MS Channel has another winner at Kison, name is Naomi.

L / 9 She is Japanese / Irish mix in her early thirties I guess. She has a petite body. 115lbs. 5'2" tall, long brown hair. Raised in Japan but she looks like a white girl. No Asian eyes. Hard bolt-on B's with long nips.

A / 10 She is very shy in the beginning but turns into a tiger in the room. Willing to do what ever pleases you.

S / 10 She is trained in massage but did not take the option. Any position is ok with her but likes doggy and mish. Loves DATY, dato. Does an awesome squat hump. Menu includes BBBJ between positions, bls, lots of dfk, BBFS may be an option. Multiple O's while in mish. I love how her eyes curl up in her head when she cums. This one you will want to do many times over. No rush and none of that hurry up and cum baby stuff. She is the best I have ever had at Kison. Of course your experience may be different but it will be awesome.

Justin

I agree with Justin, Naomi is Hot she is a little bit shy at first but that changes after you get started.

She may be more of a C instead of a B. Will do again.

Haha. These meth accusations are hilarious.

I've tried to get her stoned every time I've seen her and she refuses. I know my druggies and she's no methhead. Seriously thats retarded.

And she tells me she loves me. But I've never gotten an invite to drink w her. *****.

Sad face.

Anyways, if you're reading this coco. Kiss kiss.

Too bad about our season. I hit VIP fairly regularly for a while. I usually hit up the white girls. I've had bad luck with the K-girls there. Usually I visit during the witching hour 1am to 3 am. No rush and not many tourists around to fuck it up. Try Roppongi next time or really any in the Ward Whoreplex. Ginza is right around the corner as well. A great starting place for a junior monger.

RJ.

[QUOTE=Lakers2010; 1457607]Hey Fellas,

Just wanted to thank everyone (Kurocha, H Mobius, Starfox64, Splooge McDuck, Uki Eater, HawaiiHorndog, Carmello, Hinode, Ocolumbo, USukebe2 and Mipene77) for their advice, wisdom and support. I really appreciate the candidness and humor and it made me feel much better about what happened. I know it's dumb, but it was in my head all weekend. I will definitely try to read more and learn from you guys! This is such an awesome forum on USASG.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RickJames808; 1457779]Too bad about our season. I hit VIP fairly regularly for a while. I usually hit up the white girls. I've had bad luck with the K-girls there. Usually I visit during the witching hour 1am to 3 am. No rush and not many tourists around to fuck it up. Try Roppongi next time or really any in the Ward Whoreplex. Ginza is right around the corner as well. A great starting place for a junior monger.

RJ.[/QUOTE]Avoid Joanne. As I and others have reported, she is a dead fish and service is blah. Other providers at Ginza should be aurite.

[QUOTE=Splooge McDuck;1457064]Your only mistake was not going at 5 pm for Million. If you ever decide to go back to VIP, then MILLION or ANGIE or JACKIE would be the only 3 safe bets for a good time. The rest are hit & miss + YMMV, but just my opinion. But seriously, just the sight of Million may make up for anything so just try to get to her some day somehow. Don't settle for another girl. If Million isn't there then go elsewhere. Million is the 2010 Lakers of VIP, no, she's the 1999-2002 Lakers. A "Trampionship" dynasty. Hana is the 2012 Lakers.[/QUOTE]Splooge you are the best. 2012 Lakers = Hana LMAO. No doubt!

Braddahman

Got to try Sandy after reading a couple good reviews. Really nice lady, attractive, nice eyes. Titties are on the small side but nice nips. Massage was okay more of a rub down but she has soft, warm hands. After a while flipped and she asked about a condom, told her no. Good BBBJ skills, really slurpy like some of those J-porns. As reported she loves DATY, allowed FIV but she is super tight. Finger had a hard time getting in there so can imagine my dick. I'm not large but it was so tight! Didn't want to cum inside her so finished with HJ which was also really good. She keeps playing with you after you cum and it is real sensitive. Massaged more till time ran out. Left with a big hug and kiss. Nice lady, will go again.

Damn! She SUA Hot, Damn! She SUA Fine,

Damn! She SUA Hornyyyy, all the damn time!

Damn! Those lips those eyes, that face drives me SUA Crazy / You'll see why she's my fave, cus that lady is SUAmazing,

Her stare is SUAlluring & her smile is SUAdorable / I can see her all I want, cus she's SUAffordable! Hehe.

I'm SUAttracted, cus that chick is SUAttractive / SUAddicted to her mouth on my dick, she's SUActive,

Acting SUAroused while looking SUAngelic / Always SUAccomidating & just SUAffectionate,

Its not every day I have just ONE A-T-F / But with Sindi gone & Linda now mamasan, SUA's the best!

Tried to go to my "go to" spinner, my ATF of ATF spinners GQ Cindy. But 1 of you lucky suckas got there just a few minutes before me. I was in spinner tunnel vision so I went for Ari at Roses & again I was minutes too late as she just went in & would be an hour wait. No one else is as skinny as these 2 so I needed petite. Can't go wrong with Sua. Like Sindi & Million she is all 10s for me & what I want out of my mongering.

L / 10. I'd classify her as a spinner but not pin thin spinner like GQ Cindy. More like a Sky at GQ but much skinnier & petite than her. About 5'2, bantamweight 100 lbs. 34C-23-33, about 15% body fat, porcelyn white skin so soft, silky smooth straight flowing black hair down to mid back, super firm & super soft C cups & a cute tiny heart shaped butt. She is like a human pillow. She is the softest chick I know. I now see the resemblance when some bros say she looks like a Lucy Liu with nicer boobz. But Lucy Liu got nothing on Sua.

A / 10. She has 1 of the best personalities IMO. She is so funny & cracks me up. I literally LOL. Aims to please & so accomidating. Takes instruction perfectly & throws out some of her own. No rush, she expects to hear a minimum of 2 knocks. Has never asked for tip. She makes you feel like you the man. She's just fun IMO. I have more fun with her than anyone I ever had.

S / 10. All covered. She barged in the room like ZeeMo describes LOL, & her eyes open wide with that look that only Sua can give. She jumps on me & we DFK for a while & she just lays on me hugging tight. We rip each others clothes off. It's a minor thing but I like the rolling around in clothes, DFK & stripping each other in the bed. It feels more GFE than a chick holding a towel waiting as you strip yourself. That SupaDupaSua Head is something special. She has countless number of techniques & tricks. I have reported before. And again, what makes it even better is she looks like she is enjoying it more than me. The BJs between positions are the best part cus thats how its done in porn & how it should be done in any sex industry, especially at the AMP. I usually let her suck me cus its so good but this time she wanted me to fuck her mouth. She had me sit on her boobs & grab the back of her head & poke the throat. We did all kinds of moving around in BJ positions on the bed. Did some Mish while I stand & she is on the bed then some standing Mish while DFK. Then BJBP, CG+LFK, BJBP, CG+LFK, BJBP, RCG, BJBP Doggy. I tried hard to cum faster cus I wanted that TS hehe. I must say, whatever you do, don't decline the TS. It really is like a spa treatment. The cleaning the ears with cue tips brought back memories of when I tripped out that she is cleaning my ears years ago. I got that blowdryer the balls treatment others mentioned LOL. I'm surprised she didn't shave me, trim my split ends & cut my nails too. The best part is she looks like she is having the time of her life pampering you. That look man, she looks at you with such naughty intentions in her eyes. Cuddling, kissing & catching up while she ignored mama's knocks. I luvz me some Sua.

I say she is my one & only ATF now cus I must be honest, her service blows Million away. Million could easily be my ATF from her looks alone but her BJ is just not as good as Sua & she don't DFK me LOL. The Sindi is closest to Sua for me but again, if I had to choose service it would be Sua so she just barely beats The Sindi. I think she is the ultimate complete total package for L / A/S.

Paid U$$ual. I think I would repeat!

[QUOTE=Lakers2010; 1457607]Hey Fellas,

Just wanted to thank everyone (Kurocha, H Mobius, Starfox64, Splooge McDuck, Uki Eater, HawaiiHorndog, Carmello, Hinode, Ocolumbo, USukebe2 and Mipene77) for their advice, wisdom and support. I really appreciate the candidness and humor and it made me feel much better about what happened. I know it's dumb, but it was in my head all weekend. I will definitely try to read more and learn from you guys! This is such an awesome forum on USASG.[/QUOTE]got to admit, most of us enjoyed reading your long report even though it was a bad experience. BTW, check the AMP guide for noobs thread. I will post something in there.

Splooge,

WOW! Nice write-up. I guess you have convinced me to keep tryiing to see Sua even though I have not been successful, since she is too busy!

JT.

[QUOTE=Splooge McDuck; 1458175]Damn! She SUA Hot, Damn! She SUA Fine,

Damn! She SUA Hornyyyy, all the damn time!

Damn! Those lips those eyes, that face drives me SUA Crazy / You'll see why she's my fave, cus that lady is SUAmazing,

Her stare is SUAlluring & her smile is SUAdorable / I can see her all I want, cus she's SUAffordable! Hehe.

I'm SUAttracted, cus that chick is SUAttractive / SUAddicted to her mouth on my dick, she's SUActive,

Acting SUAroused while looking SUAngelic / Always SUAccomidating & just SUAffectionate,

Its not every day I have just ONE A-T-F / But with Sindi gone & Linda now mamasan, SUA's the best!

Tried to go to my "go to" spinner, my ATF of ATF spinners GQ Cindy. But 1 of you lucky suckas got there just a few minutes before me. I was in spinner tunnel vision so I went for Ari at Roses & again I was minutes too late as she just went in & would be an hour wait. No one else is as skinny as these 2 so I needed petite. Can't go wrong with Sua. Like Sindi & Million she is all 10s for me & what I want out of my mongering.

L / 10. I'd classify her as a spinner but not pin thin spinner like GQ Cindy. More like a Sky at GQ but much skinnier & petite than her. About 5'2, bantamweight 100 lbs. 34C-23-33, about 15% body fat, porcelyn white skin so soft, silky smooth straight flowing black hair down to mid back, super firm & super soft C cups & a cute tiny heart shaped butt. She is like a human pillow. She is the softest chick I know. I now see the resemblance when some bros say she looks like a Lucy Liu with nicer boobz. But Lucy Liu got nothing on Sua.

A / 10. She has 1 of the best personalities IMO. She is so funny & cracks me up. I literally LOL. Aims to please & so accomidating. Takes instruction perfectly & throws out some of her own. No rush, she expects to hear a minimum of 2 knocks. Has never asked for tip. She makes you feel like you the man. She's just fun IMO. I have more fun with her than anyone I ever had.

S / 10. All covered. She barged in the room like ZeeMo describes LOL, & her eyes open wide with that look that only Sua can give. She jumps on me & we DFK for a while & she just lays on me hugging tight. We rip each others clothes off. It's a minor thing but I like the rolling around in clothes, DFK & stripping each other in the bed. It feels more GFE than a chick holding a towel waiting as you strip yourself. That SupaDupaSua Head is something special. She has countless number of techniques & tricks. I have reported before. And again, what makes it even better is she looks like she is enjoying it more than me. The BJs between positions are the best part cus thats how its done in porn & how it should be done in any sex industry, especially at the AMP. I usually let her suck me cus its so good but this time she wanted me to fuck her mouth. She had me sit on her boobs & grab the back of her head & poke the throat. We did all kinds of moving around in BJ positions on the bed. Did some Mish while I stand & she is on the bed then some standing Mish while DFK. Then BJBP, CG+LFK, BJBP, CG+LFK, BJBP, RCG, BJBP Doggy. I tried hard to cum faster cus I wanted that TS hehe. I must say, whatever you do, don't decline the TS. It really is like a spa treatment. The cleaning the ears with cue tips brought back memories of when I tripped out that she is cleaning my ears years ago. I got that blowdryer the balls treatment others mentioned LOL. I'm surprised she didn't shave me, trim my split ends & cut my nails too. The best part is she looks like she is having the time of her life pampering you. That look man, she looks at you with such naughty intentions in her eyes. Cuddling, kissing & catching up while she ignored mama's knocks. I luvz me some Sua.

I say she is my one & only ATF now cus I must be honest, her service blows Million away. Million could easily be my ATF from her looks alone but her BJ is just not as good as Sua & she don't DFK me LOL. The Sindi is closest to Sua for me but again, if I had to choose service it would be Sua so she just barely beats The Sindi. I think she is the ultimate complete total package for L / A/S.

Paid U$$ual. I think I would repeat![/QUOTE]

Monica is now working on Sunday after 7:00 pm. Told me it has been very slow at Kison and is willing to work on Sundays.

L / 8 Monica to me is a very hot mature women for her age. 5'1 95-100 lbs, nice enhanced B's with perky nipples when erect. Small waist and nice tight butt. Pussy nicely trimmed. Tanned with bikini tan lines. From the back you can see wears a G string back.

A / 10 Never had a bad moment with Monica. Always willing to satisfy and please! Also has a great sense of humor! Loves to cuddle after sex and be silly with me. Always GFE experience with me.

S / 10 For her age this women like to suck and fuck! She is famous for her cock sucking! Loves to wash my cock with cold water and suck it for the longest time! BBBJ, Deep Throat all the down your shaft and still be able to stick her tongue out and lick your balls! Craves it when you cum in her mouth! Love having her on her knee's sucking my cock in front of the door just in front of the space of the bottom of the door exposing her knee's! On Sunday when l was there in the evening. Mama Chanel turn on the hallway lights all the way up. The light brighten the room from underneath the door. Such a turn on watching her sucking my cock with the lights on! I could hear the door bell ring. Such a turn on getting head while just outside the door people are walking by. Fucking is another level of pleasure! She love to fuck in CG, Mish, RCG, and my favorite is standing doggie. I again make stand in front of the door and fuck her standing doggie with her hands on the door. Love hitting it hard from behind and making her scream. I am always amazed how much she loves sex. I've had seen her many times but It never get's boring because she just loves to suck and fuck cock!

I usually like to Monica a extra $50. 00 because she gives me two pops. If you take care of her. She would do the same for you. She told me it has been very slow. It would be a good time to see her when it is slow because she can spend more time with you. The current line up at Kison is Monica, Ruby, Yuki, Miyako, Sugar, Sophie, Sandy, the the newest is Naomi. Good hunting and be safe, Quik808

[QUOTE=Pineapple50; 1458441]Splooge,

WOW! Nice write-up. I guess you have convinced me to keep tryiing to see Sua even though I have not been successful, since she is too busy!

JT.[/QUOTE]JT & anyone,

Sua will be going on vacation this Friday so hurry hurry get it get it.

[QUOTE=Lakers2010; 1457607]Hey Fellas,

I know it's dumb, but it was in my head all weekend. I will definitely try to read more and learn from you guys! This is such an awesome forum on USASG.[/QUOTE]If you do this hobby long enough, eventually you will run into a bad provider especially if you try the different sectors (AMP, Indie, Streetwalker, bargirl); as long as you take this in stride, think on your feet and not think it is 'dumb', you should be alright.

Running into junk ones goes with the territory; even experienced longtime hobbyists have dissatisfying experiences from time to time.

Enjoy and be careful out there,

H M

[QUOTE=just Crusin; 1457676]MS Channel has another winner at Kison, name is Naomi.

L / 9 She is Japanese / Irish mix in her early thirties I guess. She has a petite body. 115lbs. 5'2" tall, long brown hair. Raised in Japan but she looks like a white girl. No Asian eyes. Hard bolt-on B's with long nips.

A / 10 She is very shy in the beginning but turns into a tiger in the room. Willing to do what ever pleases you.

S / 10 She is trained in massage but did not take the option. Any position is ok with her but likes doggy and mish. Loves DATY, dato. Does an awesome squat hump. Menu includes BBBJ between positions, bls, lots of dfk, BBFS may be an option. Multiple O's while in mish. I love how her eyes curl up in her head when she cums. This one you will want to do many times over. No rush and none of that hurry up and cum baby stuff. She is the best I have ever had at Kison. Of course your experience may be different but it will be awesome.

Justin[/QUOTE]Mucho mahalo's to Crusin!

Was on my way to Rappongi to see the new Latina booty, but when I called, she said she would be free in an hour and a half and I had an appointment at that time, so I told her I'd catch her some other day. Looked at the MP reviews and saw the write up on Naomi so I called Kison, Chanel told me she was available so I cruised right over. Mama told me she had lots of new girls and that I should try Sugar next.

Took a quick shower and waited in the room- seemed like a long time, but, man, it was worth it. She came in and just looking at her took my breath away: long brown / blond hair, pretty (not movie star kine) face, knockout slim body, baseball size boobies, kinda hard but very sensitive with perfect nipples. Started with a massage- very sensuous but I started getting rock hard and she seemed to be getting turned on. All of a sudden we were into some heavy DFK and she was slowly stroking me cock, then I moved down and started lightly licking and then sucking her nipples which drove her wild. Then she slid down and started very lightly (and very wetly) licking all around the head, then up and down the shaft then a long workout on tne twins then tried to swallow the whole thing. This went on for a long time, a long time and no rush at all. Then I laid her down. I had my hands on her arms and I was surprised- This girl is in shape- arms like a rock! I started with her mouth and worked my way down to the Y.

So sweet- a little trimmed patch of hair to point the way. She was really enjoying the attention so I kept at it for about 10 minutes, then into 69.

She then climbed on top and slid me inside- a little at a time, with continuous dfk, and lots of very sexy noises. We also did that for a long time, until she sat up and went into the squat hump position. Only she didn't hump, she very slowly and sensuously slid up and down, partway up, and partway down and drove me fuckin nuts! Finally I got on top and did the same to her, then I pounded her for awhile and she was rockin' and rollin', we did like 3 variations on mish, some easy, some hard!

It's kind of a blur after that- I konow she was on top again for awhile, then she peeled off the condom and started more BBBJ til I couldn't hold it any more, she took it all and didn't stop, til I got so sensitive I had to stop her. She spit into a towel (very discreetly) and thanked me and we hugged and kissed a bit then I went to shower again because I was covered with sweat. What a sweet baby!

I told Chanel that I waould be coming back to marry this girl! She gave me her sad face and said "Don't you want me any more"- I reassured he that the marriage would probably only last 2 or 3 weeks, then I'd be after her again. L-8, A-10, S-10. This girl didn't DT, but she has the best mouth I've encountered in several years! Awesome ans so sweet!

Decided to ditch the BP and SW route and see Monica late Tuesday night after I finished work. She walked in and we gave each other a LFK. She tells me "please get naked." After which was the cold water BBBJ; her technique is unreal right up there with Sabrina. Her DT felt really really nice. Party hat goes on and we first did RCG; watching her perfect little tan ass bounce up and down and grinding on junior is a sight to behold. Next, she turned around for CG, and I fucked her real hard when she was on top. She gives me a blow bareback to finish me off. Overall, an amazing experience. I will definitely repeat L / S/A 9-10-10.

Happy Mongering,

Grave Diggah

[QUOTE=Enona1;1458087]Got to try Sandy after reading a couple good reviews. Really nice lady, attractive, nice eyes. Titties are on the small side but nice nips. Massage was okay more of a rub down but she has soft, warm hands. After a while flipped and she asked about a condom, told her no. Good BBBJ skills, really slurpy like some of those J-porns. As reported she loves DATY, allowed FIV but she is super tight. Finger had a hard time getting in there so can imagine my dick. I'm not large but it was so tight! Didn't want to cum inside her so finished with HJ which was also really good. She keeps playing with you after you cum and it is real sensitive. Massaged more till time ran out. Left with a big hug and kiss. Nice lady, will go again.[/QUOTE]How much does she weigh & just how big is she?

I not trying to put anyone on the spot here. & I don't mean to be a dick. Maybe I missed it but, so far all reports I read on this Sandy at Kison seemed to have "conviniently forgotten" to describe her body type & weight. Any reason for this?

I have read the word "attractive" & that she has "good looks" to describe her each time. This sounds like the equivilent to setting up your bro on a blind date with someone with a "nice personality"

Body type? Weight? Guess on waist & hips measurements?

Want to thank all those who suggested more discrete / stealth AMPs. I will be trying one or more of them at some point (PT, Ichi, ginza) and will report.

Risking exposure, I tried to see Monika at Kison last week. Unfortunately, she just started with one of you guys. Asked MS to pick a good and new girl so I could at least cotribute to this forum. She sent in a Japanese girl, I think her name is Hanako or Miyako-Sorry I'm terrible with names. She was good looking, late 20s about 5'4", pretty fit, not an ounce of fat on her with enhanced be cups I think (not great at judging sizes). Was a nice handful, but not overflowing. Nice personality, told me she is from NY and been here only a couple of weeks and has not had a day off since coming here- wants to go to Waikiki. Did a OK light massage and on the flip went immediately to BJ, thought it was BB for awhile, but later saw cover. Never had that happen before, no asking or negotiating, just went for it. Might have thought I was a regular as I talked to the MS a long time before she was sent in. I usually can last a long time with BJs, but she did a great job with good suction and speed. After about 5 minutes of high speed BJ, I needed to move on or be done. Switched to Mish where I can control the speed, she has some awsome clenching muscle down there, I'm not a big guy, but she felt tight and could feel her pulsating thoughout the deed- a big turn on. Her boobs are really sensitive and she asked me to be gentle with them. Swithed to DS then to CG and she rode me hard, after 5 minutes had to tap out and surrender my bodily fluids. Not sure if I liked it or not as it seemed like she just wanted to get me off as quick as possible, but sometimes I like it overly agressive. In her defense, she did try really hard to give me a second pop, but I'm not as young as I used to be. Was done with massage and deed in about 45 minutes for total of $$, did small talk after which was nice. I would repeat when I feel like a fast and furious session, but will try to get Monika next time. MS told me she is the best.