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This is my first post. I have been to Orange, Lotus, Qspa, Bamboo and several others. My experience has been that I can expect to pay $200+ at any of these places for FS with CBJ finish. I read others paying substantially less, but any negotiations I have attempted have been fruitless. What am I doing wrong? Where should I be going? Am I asking the wrong questions?
[QUOTE=TampaLutz;4596618]This is my first post. I have been to Orange, Lotus, Qspa, Bamboo and several others. My experience has been that I can expect to pay $200+ at any of these places for FS with CBJ finish. I read others paying substantially less, but any negotiations I have attempted have been fruitless. What am I doing wrong? Where should I be going? Am I asking the wrong questions?[/QUOTE]If you paid it once, they know you'll pay it again.
[QUOTE=TampaLutz;4596618]This is my first post. I have been to Orange, Lotus, Qspa, Bamboo and several others. My experience has been that I can expect to pay $200+ at any of these places for FS with CBJ finish. I read others paying substantially less, but any negotiations I have attempted have been fruitless. What am I doing wrong? Where should I be going? Am I asking the wrong questions?[/QUOTE]Sounds about right, average is 220-240.
[QUOTE=WhosThirsty;4597351][QUOTE=TampaLutz;4596618]This is my first post. I have been to Orange, Lotus, Qspa, Bamboo and several others. My experience has been that I can expect to pay $200+ at any of these places for FS with CBJ finish. I read others paying substantially less, but any negotiations I have attempted have been fruitless. What am I doing wrong? Where should I be going? Am I asking the wrong questions?[/QUOTE]Sounds about right, average is 220-240.[/QUOTE]I agree with WThirsty that the TOTAL cost should be around $240 for an hour of FS at Orange (and Yoshiko, Han River, Spa36, and a few others). That breaks down to an $80 House Fee + a $160 tip for the girl. I seem to recall that Bamboo, on Kennedy, was a Tier 2 (or 3) AMP and wouldn't merit that same tip. Maybe $120 if the talent is as I recall old reports from long ago. I've not been to Lotus or Qspa, so I'm not sure of their talent level. Basically, anything similar to what I believe you found at Orange Spa would be the $160 for an hour. I also recall that Yoshiko was (recently) only doing 45-minute sessions, so I personally wouldn't tip more than $120 to $140 for that amount of time.
HOWEVER, if you're being told you must TIP $200+ (on top of the $80 House Fee), then THAT is way too much. I would speculate that the mistake you're making is related to the last statement in your post; "Are (you) asking the wrong questions. " If you're asking questions at ALL, that's the first mistake. The second mistake would be letting the girl set the tip price starting point. Doing that, you're always going to get the girl to start high, usually at $200 for the tip. You offer less, then there's back and forth, then you settle on some amount. "Negotiating" in this manner is never a good idea, as it's just better to do your research here so you KNOW the expected costs before you even go in.
The better approach, in my opinion and experience, would be to pay the House Fee at the start (either to the Mamasan or the girl when she first enters the room, depending on which AMP you're at), then ask for a shower if they don't automatically offer (most usually do). With "Assisted Table Showers" being OFF the menu within Tampa City limits, this will be a self-service shower, but don't skip that part as it helps assure the girl that you're as CLEAN as possible (and make sure to wash your undercarriage thoroughly and as deep into your ass-crack as your middle finger can reach). AS SOON AS YOU RETURN from the shower with the girl, she may dry you off a bit or she may ask you to lay "face down" on the table. At THIS point, you pause and say "One moment", then you get the exact tip amount out of your pocket ($160), turn and hand it to the girl (while standing in front of her with no towel or cover of any kind) and hand it to her while saying exactly this: "Here, let me pay you the tip now. For EVERYTHING. ".
This sends the message that you're experienced, maybe have even been there before, and you KNOW the standard tip. Use of the word "EVERYTHING" is essential as that word is AMP-lingo that means FS.
The girl may count the money in front of you to verify that you have the right amount. If she says you must pay more, then you say that this is the amount you've ALWAYS paid. If she continues to insist for more money, hold your hand out and ask to count it yourself (this is just a ploy to get her to willingly put it back in your hand. Usually they NEVER want to do that), then count it and tell her that's the right amount, so if it's not enough for her, assure her that you "understand she needs more" so she must be out of your price range and attempt to get dressed immediately so you can LEAVE. Doing this will probably result in losing the House Fee, but you can TRY to ask for that back too. If you make a big enough scene, there's a coin-flip chance you may get it.
When you attempt to leave, in about 80%-90% of the cases, she will tell you that she'll accept that amount (because they do NOT want that money walking out the door). If you actually get to this point (I'm guessing that most of the time the girl will take the offered tip without question), make sure you remain totally respectful and polite and NOT indignant that she's trying to gyp you out of money. If you piss off the girl AND she says she will accept your tip, you've probably just signed up for some really crappy, far less than satisfying, rushed and impersonal service. You'll end up wishing you HAD walked out. If the girl is acting pissed off inspite of your attempt to remain polite and respectful, you should probably walk out anyway and consider the House Fee the cost of a learning experience (unless you can get it back).
[QUOTE=DrWilly;4598359]I agree with WThirsty that the TOTAL cost should be around $240 for an hour of FS at Orange (and Yoshiko, Han River, Spa36, and a few others). That breaks down to an $80 House Fee + a $160 tip for the girl. I seem to recall that Bamboo, on Kennedy, was a Tier 2 (or 3) AMP and wouldn't merit that same tip. Maybe $120 if the talent is as I recall old reports from long ago. I've not been to Lotus or Qspa, so I'm not sure of their talent level. Basically, anything similar to what I believe you found at Orange Spa would be the $160 for an hour. I also recall that Yoshiko was (recently) only doing 45-minute sessions, so I personally wouldn't tip more than $120 to $140 for that amount of time.
HOWEVER, if you're being told you must TIP $200+ (on top of the $80 House Fee), then THAT is way too much. I would speculate that the mistake you're making is related to the last statement in your post; "Are (you) asking the wrong questions. " If you're asking questions at ALL, that's the first mistake. The second mistake would be letting the girl set the tip price starting point. Doing that, you're always going to get the girl to start high, usually at $200 for the tip. You offer less, then there's back and forth, then you settle on some amount. "Negotiating" in this manner is never a good idea, as it's just better to do your research here so you KNOW the expected costs before you even go in.
The better approach, in my opinion and experience, would be to pay the House Fee at the start (either to the Mamasan or the girl when she first enters the room, depending on which AMP you're at), then ask for a shower if they don't automatically offer (most usually do). With "Assisted Table Showers" being OFF the menu within Tampa City limits, this will be a self-service shower, but don't skip that part as it helps assure the girl that you're as CLEAN as possible (and make sure to wash your undercarriage thoroughly and as deep into your ass-crack as your middle finger can reach). AS SOON AS YOU RETURN from the shower with the girl, she may dry you off a bit or she may ask you to lay "face down" on the table. At THIS point, you pause and say "One moment", then you get the exact tip amount out of your pocket ($160), turn and hand it to the girl (while standing in front of her with no towel or cover of any kind) and hand it to her while saying exactly this: "Here, let me pay you the tip now. For EVERYTHING. "[/QUOTE]Excellent advice. I agree with this post 100%.
[QUOTE=TampaLutz;4596618]This is my first post. I have been to Orange, Lotus, Qspa, Bamboo and several others. My experience has been that I can expect to pay $200+ at any of these places for FS with CBJ finish. I read others paying substantially less, but any negotiations I have attempted have been fruitless. What am I doing wrong? Where should I be going? Am I asking the wrong questions?[/QUOTE]Bunch of millionaires in here paying double for mediocre thin 45 year old Asian women.
You could be enjoying the 20-30 year old goddesses at the Ritz or similar.
Did the old AMP now called Arcade something open yet? I seen 2 cars but, they could have been workers or owners. The open sign was not on (kinda answering my own question, but anyone know what it's going to be like in there?
[QUOTE=TPAMonger;4598682]Bunch of millionaires in here paying double for mediocre thin 45 year old Asian women.
You could be enjoying the 20-30 year old goddesses at the Ritz or similar.[/QUOTE]Goddesses and The Ritz should not be said in the same sentence.
Decided to check out this place again. Last time there was a pretty older provider in a teddy. This time there was simple shorts and a shirt, nothing special just standard. Anyone know if they offer more? Nice girl and great massage. Tipped 30 and she seemed happy.
RubRatings is not the right place as most of them are fake.
[URL]https://tampa.rubratings.com/158412[/URL] - Digits says (850) 250-5665.
Phone: (850) xxxx665.
Location: Tampa.
Same number is being posted on NewYork as well with diff face.
[URL]https://newyork.rubratings.com/153839?layout=list[/URL]
Phone: (850) xxxx666.
Location: Soho / midtown.
Has anyone had better experiences with RubRating providers?
Thanks.
Just saw this smoking girl, she only does rubs with a HE, she makes it clear in her ad. She's at a place near Westshore. Said to call her Ana but ad says Polina, who really cares. Pics aren't her but she's solid mid-to-late 20's, very good looking, great tits, super hot smoking ass, very pretty face. Her ass is pretty close to the fake girl's pics and boobs are close. Allows full roaming while the rubs you, even near certain areas but just don't stick your fingers inside anywhere. She'll rub to completion. I really stretched it out to enjoy her body before finishing so even though her ad says shower with her I didn't get to.
She said she'll likely only be here til Friday, maybe Saturday, so go see her! Her way of telling you her room is really weird, it spooked me a bit, but it's 100% legit. Don't expect a BJ or more, and yeah, $140 is a bit pricey but she's super sweet and hot as hell with a bangin body, and her stroke on my johnson is phenomenal, so personally for me, it's worth the money. Might not be worth it for others, your call but I can tell you that I've been doing this a long time and rarely have I ever met a girl this perfect.
[URL]https://tampa.rubratings.com/158412[/URL]
[QUOTE=HornyMan11;4604508]Just saw this smoking girl, she only does rubs with a HE, she makes it clear in her ad. She's at a place near Westshore. Said to call her Ana but ad says Polina, who really cares. Pics aren't her but she's solid mid-to-late 20's, very good looking, great tits, super hot smoking ass, very pretty face. Her ass is pretty close to the fake girl's pics and boobs are close. Allows full roaming while the rubs you, even near certain areas but just don't stick your fingers inside anywhere. She'll rub to completion. I really stretched it out to enjoy her body before finishing so even though her ad says shower with her I didn't get to.
She said she'll likely only be here til Friday, maybe Saturday, so go see her! Her way of telling you her room is really weird, it spooked me a bit, but it's 100% legit. Don't expect a BJ or more, and yeah, $140 is a bit pricey but she's super sweet and hot as hell with a bangin body, and her stroke on my johnson is phenomenal, so personally for me, it's worth the money. Might not be worth it for others, your call but I can tell you that I've been doing this a long time and rarely have I ever met a girl this perfect.
[URL]https://tampa.rubratings.com/158412[/URL][/QUOTE]Ad says b2 b or similar to Nuru. Did she get completely naked right away or not at all? And if she did strip down, did she actually perform a body to body (with hands) glide? You mentioned $140, but didn't mention 30 or 60 minutes.
Visited Han River last week. Told Mamasan it was my first time, and then cussed at myself after I did.
I drew June as my attendant. I have been avoiding AMPs for a while, and wasn't aware of the no table shower rule. Cleaned myself up, and June helped me dry off.
IT was a decent massage, she worked some places that needed it. Before the flip she gave me some wonderful ass play. I was very ready when I turned over. She rode me for a bit, then asked for me to be on top. Doggy for a little bit, staring at that nice small bottom. Mmmmm. Completion. June cleaned me up, and then massaged my front. Great time, I would like to repeat.
I went for 45 minutes. I tried handing June 200. She came back in to let me know that it should be 230 for 45 minutes. Thats 30 more than I am used to paying in Sarasota, but worth it for the quality sample I saw at HR. I did not negotiate. She was nice about it.
[QUOTE=TailSct;4604634]Ad says b2 b or similar to Nuru. Did she get completely naked right away or not at all? And if she did strip down, did she actually perform a body to body (with hands) glide? You mentioned $140, but didn't mention 30 or 60 minutes.[/QUOTE]Yes naked, she said it was for 40 minutes (no clue how accurate that was). I pad for regular massage, body gliding doesn't interest me especially for $200. Any further questions just ask her.
[QUOTE=Bradentoon;4604731]Visited Han River last week. Told Mamasan it was my first time, and then cussed at myself after I did.[/quote]Actually, had you tried to fib that you'd been there before you would have been asked for your "Membership ID Number", then you would have had to think swiftly on your feet to come up with a second fib as to why you didn't HAVE one! If that second fib was less than believable, THEN you would have been viewed with more suspicion or contempt. Better to be honest with that question and just tell any Mamasan that it's your first visit at THIS place, then add the fib that the reason is because you usually go to the place down the street or some other location they would view as their competitor. Doing THAT usually gets you good service as they try to win your business from that competitor!
[QUOTE=Bradentoon;4604731]... I went for 45 minutes. I tried handing June 200. She came back in to let me know that it should be 230 for 45 minutes.[/QUOTE]That's good to know. However, the standard rate for a full hour is only $10 more, so that's not much of a discount for the reduced time. I might assume they're trying to get clients to just go ahead and pay the full hour rate by having such a small reduction in price for only 75% of the session time.
The hot-spots in Orlando all USED to do 200 for 45 minutes and the service level is off-the-charts better (BBBJ, DFK, aggressive play, DATO, B2 B-Slides in Shower, etc.), but a few of them have tweaked that rate up to 210 or 220 (full hour rate also being 240). There is one remaining place up there that's still doing the 200 for 45 rate (Massage Connection) and they actually almost insist that clients take 45 instead of the hour. That's been my #1 spot in that market lately.