Massage Parlor Reports

They say that the older you get the wiser you get. The older I get the dumber I get. In my never ending search for the golden Chinese vagina, I ended up at Vital Health Spa on Oakton in Des Plaines. I pulled in the strip mall parking lot and there was plenty of parking because most of the other businesses were out of business. I walked up to the door and it was locked, so I had to ring the bell. A middle aged Chinese man answered the door and let me in. I saw a few of the workers and they were wearing medical scrubs. I should have just ran for the door, but I am not that smart. I had a very good looking MT and she was really into the light feather touch. After a few minutes I removed the towel to show her that my 3" climaxer was ready for action. Then she starts in with the whole speech about how they don't do that and this is a professional place. If you are looking for fun, this place isn't for you. SaintChuck.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;4190665]They say that the older you get the wiser you get. The older I get the dumber I get. In my never ending search for the golden Chinese vagina, I ended up at Vital Health Spa on Oakton in Des Plaines. I pulled in the strip mall parking lot and there was plenty of parking because most of the other businesses were out of business. I walked up to the door and it was locked, so I had to ring the bell. A middle aged Chinese man answered the door and let me in. I saw a few of the workers and they were wearing medical scrubs. I should have just ran for the door, but I am not that smart. I had a very good looking MT and she was really into the light feather touch. After a few minutes I removed the towel to show her that my 3" climaxer was ready for action. Then she starts in with the whole speech about how they don't do that and this is a professional place. If you are looking for fun, this place isn't for you. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]Yup, Des Plaines is a dry hole when it comes to happy AMPs. Next time go about 15 minutes west of there and see Summer or June. On E Oakton across from the train car.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;4190665]They say that the older you get the wiser you get. The older I get the dumber I get. In my never ending search for the golden Chinese vagina, I ended up at Vital Health Spa on Oakton in Des Plaines. I pulled in the strip mall parking lot and there was plenty of parking because most of the other businesses were out of business. I walked up to the door and it was locked, so I had to ring the bell. A middle aged Chinese man answered the door and let me in. I saw a few of the workers and they were wearing medical scrubs. I should have just ran for the door, but I am not that smart. I had a very good looking MT and she was really into the light feather touch. After a few minutes I removed the towel to show her that my 3" climaxer was ready for action. Then she starts in with the whole speech about how they don't do that and this is a professional place. If you are looking for fun, this place isn't for you. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]LOL. Thanks for going the extra mile to prove what you already knew!

My fellow mongers, been back to exercise a couple of times now. Mona is very cute, really does look like these pictures that AMPs use to advertise. Young, slender, nice boobs. She does allow some roaming and I would recommend you check her out. She will rotate out on the 25th, so hurry up.

Had a CBJ for $, unfortunately the second time inflation had set in and the price was now 120.

As for my previous review: so I do wear quite strong prescription glasses and can't completely rule out that a rubber was used. All subsequent visits have been CBJ, but that first one felt and looked like BBBJ.

Exercise is probably the best AMP in terms of good looking providers and reasonable prices in the chicagoland area. Location is a bit exposed as there is some foot traffic in the area and oftentimes idling cars will be parked directly outside.

Not sure if I'm posting in the right forum, but I'm looking to make a little trip to Cary to see this one if anyone has had a positive review.

[URL]https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/barrington-il-usa/6651579.html[/URL]

From what I have seen, no fun zone only legit massage.

[QUOTE=Axel6;4202372]Not sure if I'm posting in the right forum, but I'm looking to make a little trip to Cary to see this one if anyone has had a positive review.

[URL]https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/barrington-il-usa/6651579.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Axel6;4202372]Not sure if I'm posting in the right forum, but I'm looking to make a little trip to Cary to see this one if anyone has had a positive review.

[URL]https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/barrington-il-usa/6651579.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Same as Dmike. I've heard nothing but "legit" massage from this one. I live pretty close to her location and wish it was the other way around.

[QUOTE=JackRam;4202566]Same as Dmike. I've heard nothing but "legit" massage from this one. I live pretty close to her location and wish it was the other way around.[/QUOTE]She's careful but a lot on the menu. Very $$. Was $2 for L1 w OTC and PSE talk.

[QUOTE=JJones228;4211185]She's careful but a lot on the menu. Very $$. Was $2 for L1 w OTC and PSE talk.[/QUOTE]How does one ferret out phony posts without at least asking the question? Sounds / reads like a PBB post or a bait-layer, doesn't it?

[QUOTE=Axel6;4202372]Not sure if I'm posting in the right forum, but I'm looking to make a little trip to Cary to see this one if anyone has had a positive review.

[URL]https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/barrington-il-usa/6651579.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I tried her twice. First time only legit. Second time was $1 for massage and $2 for naked grinding against her different parts with no cover on. She was weird though and would say stuff that was odd, but can't exactly recall. A few weeks later I sent a text to an add in that area with a pic that looked different with short blond hair and a different number, but it was her again and she got upset that I was looking for a different provider. I blocked both numbers and never returned. Too expensive, too weird.

[QUOTE=EdCarbone;4211586]I tried her twice. First time only legit. Second time was $1 for massage and $2 for naked grinding against her different parts with no cover on. She was weird though and would say stuff that was odd, but can't exactly recall. A few weeks later I sent a text to an add in that area with a pic that looked different with short blond hair and a different number, but it was her again and she got upset that I was looking for a different provider. I blocked both numbers and never returned. Too expensive, too weird.[/QUOTE]You would think she would be a bit more giving of extras. She used to do porn under Britney Sands.

[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=598379232[/URL]

[QUOTE=AnotherJagoff;4211462]How does one ferret out phony posts without at least asking the question? Sounds / reads like a PBB post or a bait-layer, doesn't it?[/QUOTE]For what purpose?

I used to frequent Spa Yun a few years ago. Haven't been back but thinking of revisiting. Last time I was there damage was 60 for entry, 40-50 for HE. Never received more than that. Is that still accurate?

[QUOTE=RobertSterling;4213462]You would think she would be a bit more giving of extras. She used to do porn under Britney Sands.

[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=598379232[/URL][/QUOTE]Maybe she'll let you watch the video of her spanking the kitty while she gives you a massage.

[QUOTE=RickyCasablanc;4217952]I used to frequent Spa Yun a few years ago. Haven't been back but thinking of revisiting. Last time I was there damage was 60 for entry, 40-50 for HE. Never received more than that. Is that still accurate?[/QUOTE]80 for H, 100-120 FS, but YMMV. Overall it's a shit hole and that includes the talent, mms, smell, sanitary condition, timing etc. I'm surprised that people are still visiting the place.

[QUOTE=Walker333;4218747]80 for H, 100-120 FS, but YMMV. Overall it's a shit hole and that includes the talent, mms, smell, sanitary condition, timing etc. I'm surprised that people are still visiting the place.[/QUOTE]Dang. 80? With the entry fee, I may as well just get an escort.

[QUOTE=RickyCasablanc;4218940]Dang. 80? With the entry fee, I may as well just get an escort.[/QUOTE]I agree, actually when they have someone extremely unattractive and old, you might get away with 80+100, but the usual total damage now is $$ regardless of the look and freshness.

Last week some GFE's I wanted to see weren't available so I ended up going. Figured it was time to hit the jackpot again with another jesse, nani or June. But no. Based on last 2 or 3 visits which are getting more infrequent I think all the 20 year old primo's go to the regulars and I get stuck with the c squad.

[QUOTE=DomCorazon;4221378]Last week some GFE's I wanted to see weren't available so I ended up going. Figured it was time to hit the jackpot again with another jesse, nani or June. But no. Based on last 2 or 3 visits which are getting more infrequent I think all the 20 year old primo's go to the regulars and I get stuck with the c squad.[/QUOTE]If MMS recognizes you, you will always get some preferential treatment. I'd suggest to chat with her on your way in and out so she remembers you well. Good Luck.

[QUOTE=DomCorazon;4221378]Last week some GFE's I wanted to see weren't available so I ended up going. Figured it was time to hit the jackpot again with another jesse, nani or June. But no. Based on last 2 or 3 visits which are getting more infrequent I think all the 20 year old primo's go to the regulars and I get stuck with the c squad.[/QUOTE]Same experience here. Super rushed, too. Weekends are usually less busy but I don't think ill drop by there again during the week. Didn't even want to do the full hour.

[QUOTE=Walker333;4221508]If MMS recognizes you, you will always get some preferential treatment. I'd suggest to chat with her on your way in and out so she remembers you well. Good Luck.[/QUOTE]That's the thing, she does.

Hi,

I searched but didn't find anything on Jen "EliteMassage2012" in Schaumburg. Saw her on [URL]HolisticAnywhere.com[/URL] and [URL]MassageAnywhere.com[/URL]. The ad and photo looks promising.

Anyone tried?

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;4165609]Has anybody been to Vital Health Spa recently? 1517 E Oakton in Des Plaines. I only found 1 really old report and the report stated that it was a no fun zone. I will be out that way for work next week and was hoping that the place at least offered L1 service. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]I've been to Vital Health Spa. Don't expect much if you go. It ain't there.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;4165609]Has anybody been to Vital Health Spa recently? 1517 E Oakton in Des Plaines. I only found 1 really old report and the report stated that it was a no fun zone. I will be out that way for work next week and was hoping that the place at least offered L1 service. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]Unless they have changed a lot in the last six months, I wouldn't suggest going. The time I went, the girl was hot, but the massage was bad, there was upselling ($40 for an additional 30 minutes) and there is a lot of tease and then try to get you to self-serve. Unless that's your thing, don't go.

I've been reading this forum for about a year, and I have seen that Exercise Spa is considered to be a "sure thing" for full service.

I came into Chicago on the weekend of March 22 - 24 to attend the C2 E2 convention. I'm a big comic book collector. I made plans to stop at Exercise Spa before I left the area.

So, on that Saturday, I stopped by in the late afternoon. I came in the door and rang the bell, and MMS asked me what I was looking for. I asked for someone young and petite, and MMS hooked me up with a girl whose name started with C (I didn't understand her). She certainly looked young and she was definitely petite with a cute face; she had a nice set of Bs. We went back to her work room, and I paid $80 for an hour-long massage. After the girl came back, she asked if I wanted a table shower. I had never experienced this, so I said yes. She took me back to the shower room, and she gave me a very thorough cleaning. After the shower was done, I spent a few minutes in the sauna to dry off.

Back to the room, I laid down on the table and got a short massage. Soon, the girl took off her clothes, and gave me a true body-to-body massage; she rubbed her body all over my entire backside. After this went on for a while, I asked if I could give her a massage. So, I started massaging her, but I was denied FIV and FIA. I was able to rub both of these on the outside, but no insertion. After a few minutes of this, she had me lay back on the table. She put a cover on using her mouth, which I found fascinating. She then started with a CBJ. I soon asked her to put it all in (with my size, I wouldn't call it DT), and she did so. As I was laying back enjoying myself (and not really paying attention to anything but my pleasure), all of a sudden she was squatting on the table in a CG position. In all honesty, I was just interested in a BJ, but this was certainly a pleasant experience. We then tried standing doggy, and finished with standing Missionary. I guess I was too aggressive, as she had to keep her arms reaching to the wall to keep me from pushing her into it. It didn't take too long before I came in the cover. Afterwards, she cheerfully cleaned me up, and then went back to massage until my hour was up. I tipped $140 for the FS.

Believe me, there is nothing like this where I live. At best, I'm lucky to get L1, and that's not always guaranteed. I can see my people recommend Exercise Spa. If I come back to Chicago in 2020 for C2 E2, I will definitely schedule for another visit!

Math1956.

[QUOTE=Math1956;4228177]I've been reading this forum for about a year, and I have seen that Exercise Spa is considered to be a "sure thing" for full service.

I came into Chicago on the weekend of March 22 - 24 to attend the C2 E2 convention. I'm a big comic book collector. I made plans to stop at Exercise Spa before I left the area.

So, on that Saturday, I stopped by in the late afternoon. I came in the door and rang the bell, and MMS asked me what I was looking for. I asked for someone young and petite, and MMS hooked me up with a girl whose name started with C (I didn't understand her). She certainly looked young and she was definitely petite with a cute face; she had a nice set of Bs. We went back to her work room, and I paid $80 for an hour-long massage. After the girl came back, she asked if I wanted a table shower. I had never experienced this, so I said yes. She took me back to the shower room, and she gave me a very thorough cleaning. After the shower was done, I spent a few minutes in the sauna to dry off.

Back to the room, I laid down on the table and got a short massage. Soon, the girl took off her clothes, and gave me a true body-to-body massage; she rubbed her body all over my entire backside. After this went on for a while, I asked if I could give her a massage. So, I started massaging her, but I was denied FIV and FIA. I was able to rub both of these on the outside, but no insertion. After a few minutes of this, she had me lay back on the table. She put a cover on using her mouth, which I found fascinating. She then started with a CBJ. I soon asked her to put it all in (with my size, I wouldn't call it DT), and she did so. As I was laying back enjoying myself (and not really paying attention to anything but my pleasure), all of a sudden she was squatting on the table in a CG position. In all honesty, I was just interested in a BJ, but this was certainly a pleasant experience. We then tried standing doggy, and finished with standing Missionary. I guess I was too aggressive, as she had to keep her arms reaching to the wall to keep me from pushing her into it. It didn't take too long before I came in the cover. Afterwards, she cheerfully cleaned me up, and then went back to massage until my hour was up. I tipped $140 for the FS.

Believe me, there is nothing like this where I live. At best, I'm lucky to get L1, and that's not always guaranteed. I can see my people recommend Exercise Spa. If I come back to Chicago in 2020 for C2 E2, I will definitely schedule for another visit!

Math1956.[/QUOTE]Great report you definitely picked a right attraction to attend. The people's experience is not always that great, nonetheless, the place is definitely solid. Similar to your town, we have countless number of places where L1 is the official limit. However, based upon my own experience, if you're regular, nice, and persistent, you midgt get full menu at the place and from a mt that otherwise has limited menu. Just keep trying and good luck.

[QUOTE=Math1956;4228177]I've been reading this forum for about a year, and I have seen that Exercise Spa is considered to be a "sure thing" for full service.

I came into Chicago on the weekend of March 22 - 24 to attend the C2 E2 convention. I'm a big comic book collector. I made plans to stop at Exercise Spa before I left the area.

So, on that Saturday, I stopped by in the late afternoon. I came in the door and rang the bell, and MMS asked me what I was looking for. I asked for someone young and petite, and MMS hooked me up with a girl whose name started with C (I didn't understand her). She certainly looked young and she was definitely petite with a cute face; she had a nice set of Bs. We went back to her work room, and I paid $80 for an hour-long massage. After the girl came back, she asked if I wanted a table shower. I had never experienced this, so I said yes. She took me back to the shower room, and she gave me a very thorough cleaning. After the shower was done, I spent a few minutes in the sauna to dry off.

Back to the room, I laid down on the table and got a short massage. Soon, the girl took off her clothes, and gave me a true body-to-body massage; she rubbed her body all over my entire backside. After this went on for a while, I asked if I could give her a massage. So, I started massaging her, but I was denied FIV and FIA. I was able to rub both of these on the outside, but no insertion. After a few minutes of this, she had me lay back on the table. She put a cover on using her mouth, which I found fascinating. She then started with a CBJ. I soon asked her to put it all in (with my size, I wouldn't call it DT), and she did so. As I was laying back enjoying myself (and not really paying attention to anything but my pleasure), all of a sudden she was squatting on the table in a CG position. In all honesty, I was just interested in a BJ, but this was certainly a pleasant experience. We then tried standing doggy, and finished with standing Missionary. I guess I was too aggressive, as she had to keep her arms reaching to the wall to keep me from pushing her into it. It didn't take too long before I came in the cover. Afterwards, she cheerfully cleaned me up, and then went back to massage until my hour was up. I tipped $140 for the FS.

Believe me, there is nothing like this where I live. At best, I'm lucky to get L1, and that's not always guaranteed. I can see my people recommend Exercise Spa. If I come back to Chicago in 2020 for C2 E2, I will definitely schedule for another visit!

Math1956.[/QUOTE]Did you discussed the tip beforehand or you just felt that this was appropriate? Thanks.

[QUOTE=DJChitown;4246374]Damn I am feeling like you. 65 is too much for most of the disappointing massages and then asking 40 for a HJ. SMH 80 is too much and then have to tip 140 for FS and won't even get a full hour. It will be rushed. I did a 69 with a girl in AMP and it was enjoyable but she used her hand more than her mouth. Her vagina was so tight I don't even think she would do a FS. But pussy that tight would make me bust in 10 strokes.[/QUOTE]Agreed. 65 is already a lot for what is generally a half assed massage let alone 80+ 120/140.

Saw an advert in Bedpage for an AMP in Mt. Prospect. The address of 1701 Gold seemed very familiar. So I did a little research and it was indeed the old address of Sky Spa, defunct for about 2 years now, that I used to enjoy whenever I could afford it. Advert calls itself J Spa, and promised a table shower, among other things. So I checked it out. Little neon sign in the window was just about the smallest, most inconspicuous sign you could put up.

Was greeted by Jenny, a 40+ Korean with a bit of a gut. Yes, the entrance fee was. 8, which I was expecting. After that was all paid and I was undressed she informed me that the sauna and shower were not ready yet, maybe in a couple of days. OK, fair enough. But what did I just pay. 8 entrance fee for?

Massage was nice, but it was not done with oil. Instead I was massaged through towels, either dry or hot and wet (no jokes). Jenny talked and talked, wanted to know how I found them, etc. I made it very clear I am a monger from way back, first wandering into the Mt. Prospect AMP scene back in the mid 90's. I gave the signs, and got nothing. In fact the door to the room was left open the entire time.

I'm more than a little ticked off about the. 8. She could have dropped that to. 6 if I wasn't going to get the full spa treatment. Maybe she was being cautious. But being cautious and charging me an extra. 2 for something that isn't there yet? Not a way to build a customer base. I won't be back unless I hear something good from you guys.

[QUOTE=SamSpade;4258408]Saw an advert in Bedpage for an AMP in Mt. Prospect. The address of 1701 Gold seemed very familiar. So I did a little research and it was indeed the old address of Sky Spa, defunct for about 2 years now, that I used to enjoy whenever I could afford it. Advert calls itself J Spa, and promised a table shower, among other things. So I checked it out. Little neon sign in the window was just about the smallest, most inconspicuous sign you could put up.

Was greeted by Jenny, a 40+ Korean with a bit of a gut. Yes, the entrance fee was. 8, which I was expecting. After that was all paid and I was undressed she informed me that the sauna and shower were not ready yet, maybe in a couple of days. OK, fair enough. But what did I just pay. 8 entrance fee for?

Massage was nice, but it was not done with oil. Instead I was massaged through towels, either dry or hot and wet (no jokes). Jenny talked and talked, wanted to know how I found them, etc. I made it very clear I am a monger from way back, first wandering into the Mt. Prospect AMP scene back in the mid 90's. I gave the signs, and got nothing. In fact the door to the room was left open the entire time.

I'm more than a little ticked off about the. 8. She could have dropped that to. 6 if I wasn't going to get the full spa treatment. Maybe she was being cautious. But being cautious and charging me an extra. 2 for something that isn't there yet? Not a way to build a customer base. I won't be back unless I hear something good from you guys.[/QUOTE][URL]https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/1701-west-golf-road-mount-prospect-il-usa/7983971.html[/URL] I also saw this ad. I am glad that I read your report before I pulled the trigger. SaintChuck.

[QUOTE=SamSpade;4258408]Saw an advert in Bedpage for an AMP in Mt. Prospect. The address of 1701 Gold seemed very familiar. So I did a little research and it was indeed the old address of Sky Spa, defunct for about 2 years now, that I used to enjoy whenever I could afford it. Advert calls itself J Spa, and promised a table shower, among other things. So I checked it out. Little neon sign in the window was just about the smallest, most inconspicuous sign you could put up.

Was greeted by Jenny, a 40+ Korean with a bit of a gut. Yes, the entrance fee was. 8, which I was expecting. After that was all paid and I was undressed she informed me that the sauna and shower were not ready yet, maybe in a couple of days. OK, fair enough. But what did I just pay. 8 entrance fee for?

Massage was nice, but it was not done with oil. Instead I was massaged through towels, either dry or hot and wet (no jokes). Jenny talked and talked, wanted to know how I found them, etc. I made it very clear I am a monger from way back, first wandering into the Mt. Prospect AMP scene back in the mid 90's. I gave the signs, and got nothing. In fact the door to the room was left open the entire time.

I'm more than a little ticked off about the. 8. She could have dropped that to. 6 if I wasn't going to get the full spa treatment. Maybe she was being cautious. But being cautious and charging me an extra. 2 for something that isn't there yet? Not a way to build a customer base. I won't be back unless I hear something good from you guys.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up bro!

Tried Yun the other day after not being there for awhile and found not much had changed.

Still the same smelly place as it was and they hit you up for 80 once you are in the room. The girl was pretty enough, early 30's spinner type who gave me some strange name spelled "Aeiae". The 5 minute massage was almost non existent after which she informed me that I have 10 minutes left and did I want FS for 160? I said no and she came down to 140 then to 110 with her final offer at 100 but due to her wanting to shorten the time and the haggling I decided against it. Left after about 30 minutes. I should have gone to the foot massage place across the mall where I would probably have been treated better.

I did notice the sheet and towels had the same odor as the shop which means they are not very clean. Will never return.

AJ.

I stopped by there a couple months ago, same deal. Half ass massage, half ass service. No charmers there.

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;4263375]Tried Yun the other day after not being there for awhile and found not much had changed.

Still the same smelly place as it was and they hit you up for 80 once you are in the room. The girl was pretty enough, early 30's spinner type who gave me some strange name spelled "Aeiae". The 5 minute massage was almost non existent after which she informed me that I have 10 minutes left and did I want FS for 160? I said no and she came down to 140 then to 110 with her final offer at 100 but due to her wanting to shorten the time and the haggling I decided against it. Left after about 30 minutes. I should have gone to the foot massage place across the mall where I would probably have been treated better.

I did notice the sheet and towels had the same odor as the shop which means they are not very clean. Will never return.

AJ.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;4264687]I stopped by there a couple months ago, same deal. Half ass massage, half ass service. No charmers there.[/QUOTE]Yun has been garbage for many years. Stop going guys.

NEW LIFE.

Went to new life in Mt prospect on Friday, got a 40-45 year old named mona? 70 door fee and includes nice table shower. TS was thorough and enjoyable. Massage was not terrible but entire session lasted only about 40 minutes including L1 for 50.

[QUOTE=MikeJones333;4281747]NEW LIFE.

Went to new life in Mt prospect on Friday, got a 40-45 year old named mona? 70 door fee and includes nice table shower. TS was thorough and enjoyable. Massage was not terrible but entire session lasted only about 40 minutes including L1 for 50.[/QUOTE]That old battle ax is still there? She has to be 50+.

She did me a favor and sent me to Yun a few years ago.

[QUOTE=MikeJones333;4281747]NEW LIFE.

Went to new life in Mt prospect on Friday, got a 40-45 year old named mona? 70 door fee and includes nice table shower. TS was thorough and enjoyable. Massage was not terrible but entire session lasted only about 40 minutes including L1 for 50.[/QUOTE]Mike, it may be time for an eye exam. LOL. I went to New Life 1 time about 2 years ago and Mona has to be at least 60. The only reason I got the massage from her is because I am a lazy bastard and didn't feel like driving anywhere else. When Mona came in the room I was laying on my back, to let her know that a massage would not be needed. She started giving me the light feather touch. I figured that as long as I was here I was going to make the best of it. She was wearing the pink New Life polo and I put my hand under her shirt and she wasn't wearing a bra. As soon as I started playing with her nipples she let out this evil laugh, like a villain from a Kung Fu movie. Here is the fun part. Mona smells like an ashtray that has been full for a month and she has a wonderful smokers cough. During the HJ she would let out an occasional giant cough and I could feel droplets of her lung butter landing on my chest and stomach. It was really romantic. Obviously not my best AMP visit. If you want to hear stories about when Mona was a beautiful young Spa girl, then you will have to go to the local VFW and talk to some veterans of the Korean war. These guys probably met her in Korea when she was good looking. SaintChuck.