Yeah it was perfect move bringing Joe in
He is the face of the mob the ones you never see, erase records etc. Pat Matassini was the guy out front before Joe and when Pat started opening nude bars up and down Hillsborough ave, well the guy is crazy a girl couldn't work for him unless he tested the merchandise so Joe started cleaning up the business.
Pat was well into his 60's he was still getting in serious fights. Last time I saw him at the bowling alley his hand was busted up I guess he missed the guy. I forget how rough these joints were. Today its no wonder the girls roll all over you nintendo pac man generation soft boys.
Now I think about it my plans may have been blown to hell posting them here
Just have to wait another year to execute it. I just reminded myself in a reply of some PMs inquiring what babes I see and honestly I said I had to keep a few UTR got effed up on a sweety Crystal back in August when I was the first one to hit it. Saw her first post on BP and ran out to see her two hours later. Come back and post it here and just tossed in the fact the pics were wrong but so what? The instant you walked in the door you forgot that crap but some idiot here goes to see her, stands at the door intimidating her saying she should refund him money for his wasted trip like what a genius coming up with such a plot.
Only thing I can guess is he fit into the 47% population of blood suckers looking for a hand out. Well you can imagine on my second trip to see her I just missed this episode and she was visibly shaken and since I got tossed in the middle for posting here and whomever it was could only know that fact from being a lurker or my suspicion a senior more like sneor for mexican low life it effed me up with her.
When our first meet was over the hour now it was cut short. So yeah thats why most caca posted here is fantasy and the real stuff gets trashed with whatever info picked off here these miscreants can use to quench their unending misogynists impulse to trash women by raping them on the price.
Majority of posts by seniors is a sadistic ploy to send you out to see garbage as they get their kicks cause they can afford jack. There have been fine ladies mentioned but once and quickly get buried beneath crappy posts trying to bait you to get scammed by BS.
Unless we're talking cheeseburgers.
[QUOTE=Zipman;1568129]Anybody have good double experiences?[/QUOTE]Tried it, but I'd much rather have one good dancer than two mediocre ones. Seems like the ones that try to talk you into doubles just want an excuse to do half the work and not get as intimate with you. I prefer intimate.
Why gamble, go for sure things
[QUOTE=UK Nfmc; 1570713]I'm travelling to Orlando in a couple of weeks with extended family. I've been reading the forum pretty carefully and have decided to have a trip to Tampa to the casino and to spend an hour or two at Mons Venus. My cousin and I can persuade our wives to let us out for an evening gambling and I read about Mons Venus many years ago and have always wanted to visit.
Looking for decent friction dances but not looking for extras.
Even though I've read extensively I still don't know what the cover will be for Mons (midweek, probably arriving at about 6. 00pm) and how much are dances. Happy to spend a few dollars just want to make sure I know how much to budget.
On previous trips I've been to Rachel's in Orlando but it was rubbish with girls wearing pasties and staying about 6 feet away. A waste of time and money.[/QUOTE]Interesting observation about how financial markets (gambling) the dynamic parallels of a woman (something until now I thought was just my view)
George Goodman's The Money Game – 'The market, ' he wrote, 'is like a beautiful woman – endlessly fascinating, endlessly complex, always changing, always mystifying. Then, if you have observed her a long time, you begin to see little tricks, little nervous movements of the hands when she is being false. ' Pretty soon, I was having sleepless nights. I was in, deep.
Anyway I'm cold blooded about the whole affair including both entities.
First off-IMHO-the casino is worst than a scam its so depressing and smoke filled there is nothing even esthetic to balance that out. The best bang for your money for both gambling and entertainment is Las Vegas which also parallels investing / gambling in the largest markets for the simple reason more money flows in and out thus being highly liquid can return you best odds at game tables and deals for hotels etc.
Don't take my word for it but trot on down to the indians but set a stop limit then I highly advise going back to Mons- $20 entree fee which they will stamp your hand (I highly recomend being you are new so as to stretch your dollar depending what you want out of the place whether you can handle the babes or at least if you sense they are handling you just scoot outside then return with new strategy-just say'and)
The girls range fromn 30 to 20 a dance- as far as I'm concerned I never ask- Always have a plan. If ever there was a need to its here but don't get me wrong I'm not painting a negative picture I'm just saying don't go in blind you will feel stupid later then no matter how beautiful she or it was that feeling negates the aforementioned.
So just go in with a fixed amount I think its best instead of nickle and diming your way through the night. Work with a fixed amount say 100 or 200 or whatever but my impression is obviously you go in asking for cost of one dance she's just got a tally of what's in your wallet and by that time before she ever starts she's thinking of going onto the next one.
So I'm basically honest I set a price stop limit what I'm to spend and start horse trading from there and you will tell if she is being honest too if not drop her the room is full and why take anything just make upa name like christie or claire say you are waiting on and wait.
I go straight in to the back of the stage where the bar girl will eventually comem to you for oen drink minimum which is only a few bucks soft drink which she hands you ones in chnage and I usuall tip her well. Maybe its a hunch but I sense she is integral to the workings there so I try to get on her good side. Then I go to the dance floor and hand out 4 or 5 ones (you can tip less) to each dancer who comes over to you and this is no rush deal but then I usually go on slow nights I can't say what sat Friday look like but you may be better off with more action.
Then like lady luck I just wait for the prima donna to show up I'm not accepting anything less-when she waltzes over to my end of the bar I hand her the ones (sliding the back of my hand up her thighs until she motions to shove the dough between her breasts) then ask her to see me after she is through dancing.
If so we then walk over to our spot and I just say I have x dollars and act stupid like whats the deal and let her spell it out then come back countering as if she didn't say anything but ask "ok you say x per dance then how long is a dance" here is where she need come clean and you will she she is at a point to decide since she knows whats in your wallet is she going to lose you by being stupid and lie?" know she has to be forced to be honest and explained how long the songs are.
What I mean is she knows you are getting ripped on a per song basis so just figure in your mind some estimate and then how much you want to spend with her 15 min or half seems enough and you can taylor it to make sense
Legends of YS still there?
[QUOTE=Bdoadult;1589482]Jersey is laid back and a fun girl. Definitely should have dances with her in or out of the VIP. Can get quality treatment in both locations.[/QUOTE]It's good to see that Jersey is still working there. She was among the YS dancers that has hung in there over the years. It's a long time since I've visited the joint, but I was wondering if my favorites are still working there. They include Deanna (PR chick with nice C rack) , Tia (slender with bolt-ons and lots of tats) , Vicky (dizzy slender blond from Penn) , Shorty (blonde with "Shorty" tat on lower back) and Casey (short Mexican with "Mexican Princess" tat from Orlando). These legends can sure provide great dances, so I was wondering if they're still working there.
Mons Venus vs. Odessey 2001
[QUOTE=UK Nfmc; 1570713]I'm travelling to Orlando in a couple of weeks with extended family. I've been reading the forum pretty carefully and have decided to have a trip to Tampa to the casino and to spend an hour or two at Mons Venus. My cousin and I can persuade our wives to let us out for an evening gambling and I read about Mons Venus many years ago and have always wanted to visit.
Looking for decent friction dances but not looking for extras.
Even though I've read extensively I still don't know what the cover will be for Mons (midweek, probably arriving at about 6. 00pm) and how much are dances. Happy to spend a few dollars just want to make sure I know how much to budget.
On previous trips I've been to Rachel's in Orlando but it was rubbish with girls wearing pasties and staying about 6 feet away. A waste of time and money.[/QUOTE]Sorry for the late reply to this your trip is probably over by now. Last month I was in the area and was planning on checking out Venus. It was around 2pm. They had a 20 dollar cover just to get in. Across the steet there was Odessey (not sure if I spelled odessey right). Full name was Odessey 2001 I believe. The sight out front said nude and NO COVER before 5 or 6pm. Guess where I went. They stamp your hand with invisable ink so you can get in later that night with no cover. I can't compare the dancers between the two places, but all I know the girls at Odessey were hot and naked and friendly.