General Reports

[QUOTE=Slide Hammer; 1182531]I've always wondered why cities allow AMPs if they know what theyre doing? The conspiracy theorist in me is very curious.

Prostitution is supposedly illegal and they ALL know or are aware so why is this law not enforced really? With the exception of the occasional public policy bust example to show theyre doing something.

My take is that these things actually reduce sexual crimes in certain demographics. An outlet if you will.

Anyone else care to expound?[/QUOTE]Yes, reasonable people know AMP is an outlet, and also provide the safest and cleanest environment. However, there are people who are not reasonable, like religious fanatics and militant feminists, who would try to shut down AMPs for ideological reasons, hidden behind rationale like anti-trafficking.

[QUOTE=Ocolumbo;1184191]Yes, reasonable people know AMP is an outlet, and also provide the safest and cleanest environment. However, there are people who are not reasonable, like religious fanatics and militant feminists, who would try to shut down AMPs for ideological reasons, hidden behind rationale like anti-trafficking.[/QUOTE]You've been drinking with the guys and all night beautiful woman are passing your table. You're single and not going to get some tonight (most likely) except from your right hand. So right after you leave your friends you head off to an AMP and get a quick release, and alot more for $200 than you might have got pursuing a woman and a lot of effort saved. Or perhaps you're just tired of fucking your lady or watching porn with your right hand and want to try the real thing. Would a dude be more likely to rape if there weren't AMPs? Perhaps. Do guys who rape not know about AMPs? Who knows? I believe the cops know that these girls allow you to pay to "rape" them. Perhaps thats why they get soo made when dudes short change them cause they feel violated. I really don't know.

[QUOTE=Oldie81;1185287]You've been drinking with the guys and all night beautiful woman are passing your table. You're single and not going to get some tonight (most likely) except from your right hand. So right after you leave your friends you head off to an AMP and get a quick release, and alot more for $200 than you might have got pursuing a woman and a lot of effort saved. Or perhaps you're just tired of fucking your lady or watching porn with your right hand and want to try the real thing. Would a dude be more likely to rape if there weren't AMPs? Perhaps. Do guys who rape not know about AMPs? Who knows? I believe the cops know that these girls allow you to pay to "rape" them. Perhaps thats why they get soo made when dudes short change them cause they feel violated. I really don't know.[/QUOTE]WOW! AMPs as an outlet for what would otherwise be rape is a bit of a stretch. Remember, we are always told that rape is about power. Vanilla sex we have with the providers at the AMPs has nothing to do with rape and coercion. Especially when she is in cowgirl grinding on me or better yet squat humping me.

AMPs are outlets for sex. Necessary outlets for both sexually repressive and sexually permissive societies.

There ain't no outlet for rape other than rape.

[QUOTE=Oldie81;1185287]Would a dude be more likely to rape if there weren't AMPs? Perhaps. Do guys who rape not know about AMPs? Who knows? I believe the cops know that these girls allow you to pay to "rape" them. Perhaps thats why they get soo made when dudes short change them cause they feel violated. I really don't know.[/QUOTE]Bzzt. Wrong. Rape is not about sex. It's about violence, anger and control.

[QUOTE=Headlock]Bzzt. Wrong. Rape is not about sex. It's about violence, anger and control.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Kolonahe; 1186644]Rape is exerting one's will and dominance over another person without any regard to that person's willingness or well-being. Sex is generally accepted as a fun and healthy physical joining. Definitely different actions.

Enough from me, back in my hole now.

Take good care, and be safe, Braddaz!

Kolo[/QUOTE]You're both correct! Rape is one persons uncontrollable desire to dominate and totally control another person!

Why does that always happen when I include be*tch in some of my posts? See there it goes again.

[QUOTE=CheapCharlie;1187943]Why does that always happen when I include be*tch in some of my posts? See there it goes again.[/QUOTE]Forum rules prohibit the use of words that "denigrate women", so the "B", "W" and "C" words are banned.

[QUOTE=H Mobius;1187948]Forum rules prohibit the use of words that "denigrate women", so the "B", "W" and "C" words are banned.[/QUOTE]I know, but I always use a *; but always get the "e" after the "b".Just now the b had one e after it.

[QUOTE=CheapCharlie;1188017]I know, but I always use a *; but always get the "e" after the "b".Just now the b had one e after it.[/QUOTE]Oh. Maybe it's yet another quirk of the new software :).

[QUOTE=Kolonahe; 1186644]Rape is exerting one's will and dominance over another person without any regard to that person's willingness or well-being. Sex is generally accepted as a fun and healthy physical joining. Definitely different actions.

Enough from me, back in my hole now.

Take good care, and be safe, Braddaz!

Kolo[/QUOTE]99% of the time yes, however there are those cases when one uses rape as a means to have sex. Very rare, but it happens.

[QUOTE=Kolonahe; 1186644]Rape is exerting one's will and dominance over another person without any regard to that person's willingness or well-being. Sex is generally accepted as a fun and healthy physical joining. Definitely different actions.

Enough from me, back in my hole now.

Take good care, and be safe, Braddaz!

Kolo[/QUOTE]Also, having sex with a person who is drugged, drunk, or passed out is second degree sexual assult.

[QUOTE=Jj6969;1188654]Also, having sex with a person who is drugged, drunk, or passed out is second degree sexual assult.[/QUOTE]I guess I can claim I was sexually assaulted then, having sex while I was drunk! LOL

[QUOTE=Blade82;1188513]99% of the time yes, however there are those cases when one uses rape as a means to have sex. Very rare, but it happens.[/QUOTE]Don't want to beat this subject to death, but where does the 99% figure come from? Can you cite sources or is this a number you arbitrarily used to indicate a large but unknown value?

This is an intro clip from a K-Town reality show; don't think it got picked up. Imagine what you could do with a show called KBG Honolulu.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/user/KTownRealityShow#p/a/u/2/BH9l-nKa4bg[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RbW-XYqbol0[/url]

[QUOTE=Head Lock;1189288]Don't want to beat this subject to death, but where does the 99% figure come from? Can you cite sources or is this a number you arbitrarily used to indicate a large but unknown value?[/QUOTE]It is the alleged 1% that is supposed to be sex during rape that needs support.

[QUOTE=Head Lock;1189288]Don't want to beat this subject to death, but where does the 99% figure come from? Can you cite sources or is this a number you arbitrarily used to indicate a large but unknown value?[/QUOTE]I'm just curious and was hoping youd get a reply as I was wondering if he was referring to role playing perhaps? As to your questions HL, I think he answered you if you know what I mean.

[QUOTE=Thumperforq; 1189500]This is an intro clip from a K-Town reality show; don't think it got picked up. Imagine what you could do with a show called KBG Honolulu.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/user/KTownRealityShow#p/a/u/2/BH9l-nKa4bg[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RbW-XYqbol0[/url]

[/QUOTE]Would be some nice chics to look at. Imagine all the import models who'd want to be on the show. I'd just watch it to see what the girls would look like. LOL

[QUOTE=Head Lock;1189288]Don't want to beat this subject to death, but where does the 99% figure come from? Can you cite sources or is this a number you arbitrarily used to indicate a large but unknown value?[/QUOTE]Its not an exact figure but I heard it from a teacher when I was going school. The number was actually pushing about 2%. I remember he said a lot of cases dealt with teenagers.

[QUOTE=Oldee;1192298]I'm just curious and was hoping youd get a reply as I was wondering if he was referring to role playing perhaps? As to your questions HL, I think he answered you if you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]LOL never thought about role play or foreplay as a method, but that could be one. Hey remember Marv Albert?

If you get busted as a John soliciting a prostitute, do you have to register as a sex offender?

[QUOTE=Atc808;1193554]If you get busted as a John soliciting a prostitute, do you have to register as a sex offender?[/QUOTE]Not according to these:

[url]http://www.klaaskids.org/st-haw.htm[/url], which refers to Chapter 846E Sections 707-730 for definitions:

[url]http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/histatutes/5/37/707/V/707-730[/url]

The prostitute is agreeing to it as a business transaction and not by force or "strong compulsion". But, I've noticed indications of possible hidden cameras at MTs; perhaps they've had trouble with matters escalating upon giving play and HE.

In the MP Reports thread, there were posts written about a provider doing porn or looking like Priva. She reminded me of stripper here when I first started going to strip bars. Her name is De-Ahna and I think she was a Miss Philippines. I googled her name and downloaded a couple of movies she was in. She only appeared in four porn movies that I could find. I remembered a big poster in a strip club with her sitting on the lap of Tom Magum P. I Selleck. I'm guessing booty call.

[QUOTE=Memahu;1194053]In the MP Reports thread, there were posts written about a provider doing porn or looking like Priva. She reminded me of stripper here when I first started going to strip bars. Her name is De-Ahna and I think she was a Miss Philippines. I googled her name and downloaded a couple of movies she was in. She only appeared in four porn movies that I could find. I remembered a big poster in a strip club with her sitting on the lap of Tom Magum P. I Selleck. I'm guessing booty call.[/QUOTE]I'm usually pretty good at Google sleuthing, but not pulling up much on De-Ahna (or her other name Digna Ray). Do you have any interesting "links" you could post? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1194063]I'm usually pretty good at Google sleuthing, but not pulling up much on De-Ahna (or her other name Digna Ray). Do you have any interesting "links" you could post? Thanks![/QUOTE][url]Http://www.forumophilia.com/topic127485-135.html[/url]

[url]http://www.exbii.com/showthread.php?t=949830&page=17[/url]

I downloaded the movie Bordello 1985, House of the Rising Sun from one of these sites. I can't remember which one worked.

[url]http://www.mywebporno.com/descargar-online/peliculas-porno-completas/26614/jack-n-jill-2-1984-fileserve-filesonic.html[/url]
I got this one at this site.

I just saw Mimi and again great service as always. She said that there were lots of calls to Pine Tree and the customers are asking mama if Mimi still works there. Mimi has no plans of retiring, but I told her that there were 7 Mimi's at the AMPs since last year in Hawaii and guys are getting confused. I just want to tell everybody that the best Mimi is still at Pine Tree and will never leave there.

[QUOTE=Memahu; 1194067]

[url]Http://www.forumophilia.com/topic127485-135.html[/url]

[url]http://www.exbii.com/showthread.php?t=949830&page=17[/url]

I downloaded the movie Bordello 1985, House of the Rising Sun from one of these sites. I can't remember which one worked.

[url]http://www.mywebporno.com/descargar-online/peliculas-porno-completas/26614/jack-n-jill-2-1984-fileserve-filesonic.html[/url]

I got this one at this site. [/QUOTE]Big Mahalos! I used the first one since I have an Oron membership!

Tried Trojan Extended pleasure condoms with S / O and found that it does take some of the sensation away and I lasted way longer than I usually do. Can't wait to take my own and use it at an AMP soon. That way I can get a good 20-30 minutes of pounding going on and enjoy the views of the girls.

It's okay to tell the girls about this forum. Many of them already know. Besides this ain't Fight Club and it's not like we are using our given names or faces. In addition to that, it's probably beneficial that they know about this forum since some hobbyists tend to lie about their experiences.

[QUOTE=Harry5142;1199148]It's okay to tell the girls about this forum. Many of them already know. Besides this ain't Fight Club and it's not like we are using our given names or faces. In addition to that, it's probably beneficial that they know about this forum since some hobbyists tend to lie about their experiences.[/QUOTE]You bring up a good point to discuss.

Back in the day of the old Meeting Place and G.A.I.H. v1.0 boards, nary a girl knew of the internet forums. The ones that did had negative reactions to their clients who mentioned hearing about them on it. Paranoia would set in, and sometimes they would refuse service so as not be reviewed, or hassled by cops-as some felt they would be.

Then, Erin O'Bryn joined the G.A.I.H. board and interacted with her clients on there. However, she became paranoid (or more accurate to say she became a psycho b!tch) as well and basically (if you read back posts) brought the forum down.

So, Fight Club rules have always served this board well. It was absolutely necessary in the early- to mid-days of the forum.

However, being that the review sites are now very common place, and some girls even ask to be posted about, maybe it is time to just make a judgement call when with the girl.

Personally, I wouldn't see much benefit to it, unless I've established a rapport, and then ask for service I "heard about."

Hmmm. What's everyone else think about abandoning Fight Club rules?

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa; 1199157]You bring up a good point to discuss.

Back in the day of the old Meeting Place and G. A. I. H. V1. 0 boards, nary a girl knew of the internet forums. The ones that did had negative reactions to their clients who mentioned hearing about them on it. Paranoia would set in, and sometimes they would refuse service so as not be reviewed, or hassled by cops-as some felt they would be.

Then, Erin O'Bryn joined the G. A. I. H. Board and interacted with her clients on there. However, she became paranoid (or more accurate to say she became a psycho be! Tch) as well and basically (if you read back posts) brought the forum down.

So, Fight Club rules have always served this board well. It was absolutely necessary in the early- to mid-days of the forum.

However, being that the review sites are now very common place, and some girls even ask to be posted about, maybe it is time to just make a judgement call when with the girl.

Personally, I wouldn't see much benefit to it, unless I've established a rapport, and then ask for service I "heard about."

Hmmm. What's everyone else think about abandoning Fight Club rules? [/QUOTE]I'm rather new to the forum but I think we need to factor in if it will lead to the women somehow learning monger's identity. If it doesn't affect monger's anonyminty, I'm ok with dropping fight club rules.

[QUOTE=Oldee;1199160]I'm rather new to the forum but I think we need to factor in if it will lead to the women somehow learning monger's identity. If it doesn't affect monger's anonyminty, I'm ok with dropping fight club rules.[/QUOTE]There are three ways to deal with the issue of maintaining monger / provider anonymity:

1) Don't be overly specific about the experience. That's one of the easiest giveaways.

2) Don't tell them your handle. If necessary lie about it or tell them that you lurk but you don't post reviews.

3) Wait a week or two to post a review. By that time they will have seen enough men to not be able to distinguish who posted what. In addition to that don't be overly specific about the date and time you were serviced by them.

The only real concern these girls may have is too much information being given in a review such as the extras she may have given to you that she doesn't or may not want to provide to other monger's (YMMV stuff) and dishonest reviews posted out of spite because even though she gave good service she wouldn't let you do something that you wanted. One service provider I saw recently told me that one of us gave her a dishonest review because she wouldn't let him cum on her. If our reviews are civil and honest then these women will have no reason to rat us out. Discretion is very important to their livelihoods.

[QUOTE=Harry5142;1199148]It's okay to tell the girls about this forum. Many of them already know. Besides this ain't Fight Club and it's not like we are using our given names or faces. In addition to that, it's probably beneficial that they know about this forum since some hobbyists tend to lie about their experiences.[/QUOTE]Telling girls about the forums doesn't benefit anyone and just ruins the industry. If you have been reading the MT thread recently, it seems the whole massage industry is ruined. Lately too there have been a lot of providers posing as mongerers, talking crap or giving themselves false reviews. All in all, there is no reason for the girls to know about the boards, SO DON'T TELL. Of course with all the rats now the boards maybe beyond repair.

I think it is safe to assume they ALL know about it. But still, for me personally, I see no reason for me to bring it up.

[QUOTE=Kolonahe; 1199380]Kapalua's advice was to deny any knowledge of the forum, and as usual, he was correct. Although it might help some in the industry, it hurts others, especially the Indie MTs and the brothers that refer to them. Whenever a referral 'brother' has dimed me out to one about the forum, it's been nothing but bad news and problems, which is why I no longer do public reviews of Indie MTs. Providers do have their own networks where they share info, both good and bad, about us. Let's keep the playing field even, and hopefully help eachother out.

Just my 2 cents,

Kolo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa; 1199157]You bring up a good point to discuss.

Back in the day of the old Meeting Place and G. A. I. H. V1. 0 boards[/QUOTE]

That was the good old days. MOD =P

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1199443]I think it is safe to assume they ALL know about it. But still, for me personally, I see no reason for me to bring it up.[/QUOTE]I don't bring it up myself. But, the providers pretty much know. It's just that they don't come out and ask straight up. In fact, I think some of them even know I'm not just a reader but, a member on this forum.

The only time someone mentioned the internet was when me and my friend was asking for the infamous Kyong at London Hub years ago. I never had a need to mention the forum. Some guys need to be more sly.

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa; 1199157]You bring up a good point to discuss.

Back in the day of the old Meeting Place and G. A. I. H. V1. 0 boards, nary a girl knew of the internet forums. The ones that did had negative reactions to their clients who mentioned hearing about them on it. Paranoia would set in, and sometimes they would refuse service so as not be reviewed, or hassled by cops-as some felt they would be.

Then, Erin O'Bryn joined the G. A. I. H. Board and interacted with her clients on there. However, she became paranoid (or more accurate to say she became a psycho be! Tch) as well and basically (if you read back posts) brought the forum down.

So, Fight Club rules have always served this board well. It was absolutely necessary in the early- to mid-days of the forum.

However, being that the review sites are now very common place, and some girls even ask to be posted about, maybe it is time to just make a judgement call when with the girl.

Personally, I wouldn't see much benefit to it, unless I've established a rapport, and then ask for service I "heard about."

Hmmm. What's everyone else think about abandoning Fight Club rules? [/QUOTE]Follow the main areas of review boards and it won't be the fight club. There are our forums too, and review areas for us ladies our complaints: stinky balls, too hairy can't find the the thing, bad kisser, bad hygeine, terrible sex, and limp dick, my favoritve no personalitiy.

[u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was originally written in [u]ALL CAPITAL LETTERING[/u] and thus it was edited to normal case lettering. In the future, please do not write reports in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue]

[blue]======================================

Hi LeaLegs,

I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...

[red][u]Would you please refrain from WRITING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS![/u][/red]

It's difficult to read and it's time consuming to fix.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i]

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1199443]I think it is safe to assume they ALL know about it. But still, for me personally, I see no reason for me to bring it up.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say all know about it as a lot of them can't read english too well. But you said it best,"there is no reason to bring it up." Problem is a lot of people think if they give info they will get some ass. As I mentioned previously this board maybe too tainted, but if people just shut up about this board maybe it'll return to prominence. Maybe