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[QUOTE=Batman317;3582415]Talked or been with this sb [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b9926e27-8deb-4a76-be9f-78eba31cb064[/URL].[/QUOTE]I had an interest in her 2 months ago, and she led me to believe she could travel to Indy, but it never happened. Then sometime in the past 4 to 6 week she updated her profile to say we have to travel to her. I haven't made the decision to go to Greencastle. YET.
[QUOTE=Indplsgent4fu;3582422]I had an interest in her 2 months ago, and she led me to believe she could travel to Indy, but it never happened. Then sometime in the past 4 to 6 week she updated her profile to say we have to travel to her. I haven't made the decision to go to Greencastle. YET.[/QUOTE]I talked to her and as tempting as she is (sexy in a blue hair kinda way.) I passed. Two reasons: She has limited time between two jobs and requires me to drive to greencastle to meet; for what would be no more than an hour of time; and a part of the time was to get to know one another at Starbucks?? I'm sorry but after 2 weeks of texting, 3-4 hours of my time for a cup of coffee? I'm too lazy for that (or my time is too valuable). She never came out directly and stated that intimacy was on the table; her description of what she wanted defined (and specifically used) the word "platonic. " Maybe I'm not up on the urban dictionary version of the word, but it was non commital enough to move along. I left the door open to reconsider, so if anyone has experience, PM me. I have some recent adventures to share too. She does remind me of a 1990's hot punk chick I'd love to date.
[QUOTE=Indplsgent4fu;3579704]Over the past couple of months I've had private messages asking me for contact info for sugar babies I've posted about. I do not feel that it is appropriate for me to share PRIVATE contact info without a person's consent, whether it be provider, sugar baby, hobbyist, etc. It would be totally different if the contact info was at one time posted / available publicly. Also, if I've never talked to you over the phone, or met you face to face for lunch, drinks, etc, then it's not likely I will stick my neck out to get a hold of a girl to make a recommendation or introduction. I hope that you can all appreciate that, and understand that I would expect the same consideration in return. Happy hunting fellas.[/QUOTE]All stood up and said AMEN!
[QUOTE=Indplsgent4fu;3582408]Started chatting with her 2 weeks ago, and met her a few days later. She said she was only looking for one SD, but I was inclined to believe her, and I have to admit I was in the mood to settle down with just one good sugarbaby (really), and thought it could be her. We negotiated from 4 to 2.5 each visit, and felt we could meet once or twice a week. I took her to fine upscale restaurant, and we had a great dinner. She is NOT slender like her profile says, she is curvy, average, a little thick for some, and busty. I was very turned on by her intelligence and social skills, and felt I could take her out in any upscale social setting. I ended the evening enjoying her curves and oral talents and skills. As we talked the next day, I caught her in a couple of discrepancies in some of her tales (typical for girls) but just had me concerned more then usual, and started feeling that she might have more drama. I have not reached back out to her, she is SA site surfing daily and I suspect looking for bigger, better deals.[/QUOTE]They are all looking for him. Hahah good luck! They; ll likely find jimmy hoffa first.
Seemed legit but I couldn't get her lower than 500 for first meeting. I passed. Let me know if you cut a better deal and I may try again. I honestly didn't try too hard because she isn't that hot and obviously has unrealistic expectations.
[QUOTE=ZakkWylde;3584949]Seemed legit but I couldn't get her lower than 500 for first meeting. I passed. Let me know if you cut a better deal and I may try again. I honestly didn't try too hard because she isn't that hot and obviously has unrealistic expectations.[/QUOTE]A not so new but resurfacing strategy is to pay the 4-800 asked the first time, then negotiate down for future visits. Frankly it makes even the less desireable unrealistic with their allowances. I wish we could all just agree to not offer more than a fair market value and stick to it; but there will always be a white knight in the room, thinking with the wrong head. I did it ONCE with Plain Jane. Wasn’t worth it.
Try talking to Brunette Bombshell or Jazzy. BB's price goes up quarterly. Last year she wanted $500. Her minimum is now $800 per meet and can not host. Jazzy was $300, which I did not see the value of exploring, now $600. BB's photos have been the same for three years now.
Ladies have a right to set their own self worth, but I would think that if more of us said NO, their expectations would lower from LaLa land to reality. This isn't California for heavens sake.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes007;3585875]A not so new but resurfacing strategy is to pay the 4-800 asked the first time, then negotiate down for future visits. Frankly it makes even the less desireable unrealistic with their allowances. I wish we could all just agree to not offer more than a fair market value and stick to it; but there will always be a white knight in the room, thinking with the wrong head. I did it ONCE with Plain Jane. Wasnt worth it.
Try talking to Brunette Bombshell or Jazzy. BB's price goes up quarterly. Last year she wanted $500. Her minimum is now $800 per meet and can not host. Jazzy was $300, which I did not see the value of exploring, now $600. BB's photos have been the same for three years now.
Ladies have a right to set their own self worth, but I would think that if more of us said NO, their expectations would lower from LaLa land to reality. This isn't California for heavens sake.[/QUOTE]Alot of girls have been burned by Arrangements. Guys promising longer term for reduced rates. Good in theory till he ghost after the first time never to be heard from again. So they learn to up their price, get what they want and not really care if a guy shows back up. For alot of these girls its side money so they can hold out till they get what they want The idea of guys controlling the price is pretty funny. First the guys would have to boycott pussy and that will never happen. Guys will push you in front of the bus for it, stab you in the back etc. Plus someone always has more money to spend and doesn't care to share the wealth.
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Ladies have a right to set their own self worth, but I would think that if more of us said NO, their expectations would lower from LaLa land to reality. This isn't California for heavens sake.[/QUOTE]Is there any evidence that anybody gives in to the ridiculous rates?
[QUOTE=Bwetfan;3585935]Is there any evidence that anybody gives in to the ridiculous rates?[/QUOTE]Yes. There are at least 3 dudes working sa in Indy that regularly go 1000. I learned this from a sb with whom I already have an arrangement and she was not trying to use the info to negotiate, so I believed her.
I either get girls who accept the allowance I recommend, girls who are higher but come down to what I want, or girls who insist they get those crazy allowances regularly. This just happened yesterday. She said she wanted consistency. When I asked what that meant, she said she wanted weekly 'one grand or two grand'. When I told her she is dreaming if she thinks she can get that and gave her an analysis of what that meant, she started a tirade calling me cheap, a loser, and proceeding to give me a 'rundown' of her 'income' last year saying she has 2 sugar daddies that give her that and she makes 150,000 as an 'independent contractor'. I need to find out who this person is and report her to the IRS for failure to report and pay taxes if she is getting that much.
Maybe there are idiots, I mean generous guys who are willing to put out that much money. But I think the true hobbyist knows better. Maybe those guys splurge on their birthday for one night of fun a year and think 'what the heck, it's my birthday'. But the true hobbyist is spending money regularly and how many guys can afford to pay what is the equivalent of a $60,000 a year job to someone who gets 1000 a week?!
The best thing to do is tell her to run along to their fictitious sugar daddy and ask him for his weekly allowance while you give your money to a more deserving sugar baby. And then report her on this forum so we can all make fun of her.
[QUOTE=ZakkWylde;3585946]Yes. There are at least 3 dudes working sa in Indy that regularly go 1000. I learned this from a sb with whom I already have an arrangement and she was not trying to use the info to negotiate, so I believed her.[/QUOTE]
The problem with boycott is that we forget this forum may, and probably is, only a small segment of the population. I was hobbying for years and had no clue until a friend told me that I would do well to join this forum. So I did earlier this year and have met some really cool men and women. But the problem is that there are tons of other guys who are out there hobbying and not getting the benefit of this forum to know about scammers and clock watchers and GPS. When they meet a sugar baby and she quotes 1000 for a date, what is his reference point to know that's high? If he can afford it, then I guess he will do it. And if he likes it enough and has more money, he will do it again. But if he didn't have as enjoyable time as he hoped, then maybe he stops hobbling after the first try. So the best thing we can do is keep giving what we think is fair and the market will correct itself. Why are you guys worried about one girl who goes high and complains? For each one girl like that there are 5 who will accept a more reasonable number. So go give your money to one of those other 5.
[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3585902]Alot of girls have been burned by Arrangements. Guys promising longer term for reduced rates. Good in theory till he ghost after the first time never to be heard from again. So they learn to up their price, get what they want and not really care if a guy shows back up. For alot of these girls its side money so they can hold out till they get what they want The idea of guys controlling the price is pretty funny. First the guys would have to boycott pussy and that will never happen. Guys will push you in front of the bus for it, stab you in the back etc. Plus someone always has more money to spend and doesn't care to share the wealth.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoodTimes007;3585875]A not so new but resurfacing strategy is to pay the 4-800 asked the first time, then negotiate down for future visits. Frankly it makes even the less desireable unrealistic with their allowances. I wish we could all just agree to not offer more than a fair market value and stick to it; but there will always be a white knight in the room, thinking with the wrong head. I did it ONCE with Plain Jane. Wasnt worth it.
Try talking to Brunette Bombshell or Jazzy. BB's price goes up quarterly. Last year she wanted $500. Her minimum is now $800 per meet and can not host. Jazzy was $300, which I did not see the value of exploring, now $600. BB's photos have been the same for three years now.
Ladies have a right to set their own self worth, but I would think that if more of us said NO, their expectations would lower from LaLa land to reality. This isn't California for heavens sake.[/QUOTE]Jazzy will take $250. She always hurting for money.
[QUOTE=ZakkWylde;3585946]Yes. There are at least 3 dudes working sa in Indy that regularly go 1000. I learned this from a sb with whom I already have an arrangement and she was not trying to use the info to negotiate, so I believed her.[/QUOTE]I met with a SA in btown last night who said she has made 5000 over the last 3 months, from dudes who haven't even asked to be touched.
"hey come have lunch with me, ill have 500 for you. ".
She even said can you believe I can get away with it.
Um, no. WTF guys.
[QUOTE=Bwetfan;3585935]Is there any evidence that anybody gives in to the ridiculous rates?[/QUOTE]A young lady I met off FetLife and have a casual relationship with no cash involved tells of guys spending up to $8. To $1 k taking her shoopping, nails, spas, dinners with $100 plus bottles of wine and go back to 5 star hotel suite just to talk and have no sexual contact. And still give her $2. 5 for her time. She has had this happen several times, with she has told me 3 different men. She also has a Amazon wish list that they routinely buy her gifts. Secretly she wished they just give her cash so she can pay off school loans but she enjoys the gifts and wining and dining guys her age can't do. She just turned 21. The mens ages are 45-63 she told me. She thinks it is these guys ego plus a lot of expendable money and the need to be seen with much younger beautiful women that drives them. She can't explain the no sex part (she's a nympho) and she would but that is not these guys endgame and they either don't pursue it or haven't asked for that part of arrangement yet. I don't get it but I also don't have fuck you money either. Okay here is where I find if guys can read DO NOT PM ME FOR HER INFO. She says too many guys from here want to meet her for. 6 car blowjobs. DO NOT PM ME FOR HER INFO.
[QUOTE=ZakkWylde;3585946]Yes. There are at least 3 dudes working sa in Indy that regularly go 1000. I learned this from a sb with whom I already have an arrangement and she was not trying to use the info to negotiate, so I believed her.[/QUOTE]I know of one guy from eastern europe that gives a girl I know $500.00 when he is in town. And of course she takes it. I don't blame her I would too. I'm certain she is being honest, since her deal with me is WAY different.