[QUOTE=Cowboy1964;6569151]Says account doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]It works, she made the profile private but accepts the request. Remove the period at the end.
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[QUOTE=Cowboy1964;6569151]Says account doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]It works, she made the profile private but accepts the request. Remove the period at the end.
[QUOTE=Cowboy1964;6569151]Says account doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]I found it. Freaky little black girl.
[QUOTE=JdMannric;6542071]Hey all,
I've got a SB I've been seeing on and off for a minute and she's interested in having one or two additional SDs and I don't mind sharing. She also has an interest in a MFM at some point, so keep that in mind. She has a particular type of guy she goes for that I can discuss via PM.[/QUOTE]I'm interested. Your mailbox is full.
[QUOTE=VABird12;6567175]So I was trying to have some new fun with a new SB and this one come to mind. Send her my opening line and got get digits from the start. We exchanged some message and then we came to the PPM part. She was 500 for some fun. I was fuck that naw I'm good, she then comes back tell me 350 is her lowest for all cover sex, I was like not even a BBBJ. She was like no. Fuck it then. Ill just go back to my regulars that I pay for half her admission that provide uncover fun.
You all be paying 500. Honestly anything over 350 is high for that girl. That picture she has as a blonde no lie reminds me of a younger taryn.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/43bca55b-0b21-4f4f-80b7-7111da07ef30[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm not afraid to pay a premium to skip the line but $500 is too much.
Any info on this one? And if anyone wants to trade videos from girls on seeking pm me.
This one is either a fake, or she's also a random content creator I happen to follow on Twitter LOL.
Interested if any of you have met her because if she is real, her nudes are pretty hot.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1017718a-ea4f-4ea4-ad89-534f9b1f6319[/URL]
[QUOTE=Hungre1234;6572932]This one is either a fake, or she's also a random content creator I happen to follow on Twitter LOL.
Interested if any of you have met her because if she is real, her nudes are pretty hot.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1017718a-ea4f-4ea4-ad89-534f9b1f6319[/URL][/QUOTE]Whats her Twitter handle?
Does anyone know if those Vanilla prepaid cards work with SugarDaddyMeet?
Want to be sure before I run out and buy one. Thanks.
[QUOTE=TopGun9;6574289]Does anyone know if those Vanilla prepaid cards work with SugarDaddyMeet?
Want to be sure before I run out and buy one. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Did you look at the FAQ on the website? What does it say under "HOW DO I PAY FOR A MEMBERSHIP? "?
Of course the absolute authority on the site is the site it's self and sounds like they have plenty of places where one can "contact us".
Looks like they have a heavy emphasis on "verified" SDs and SBs meaning an upload of your Gubmint Identification. Not something I would do. Then again, top level there is "Certified" SD where you upload your Tax return to the site to prove >$200 K per annum income or bank / brokerage statements proving net worth of >$1 MM. And oh yeah, read how they promote how "secure" you private information is! LOL Tell that to the hackers that got into AM several years ago.
But hey if you do buy a Vanilla Visa card, what's the problem? If it doesn't work you use it to buy something else and only lose a few bucks ($6. 95?
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6575368]Did you look at the FAQ on the website? What does it say under "HOW DO I PAY FOR A MEMBERSHIP? "?
Of course the absolute authority on the site is the site it's self and sounds like they have plenty of places where one can "contact us".
Looks like they have a heavy emphasis on "verified" SDs and SBs meaning an upload of your Gubmint Identification. Not something I would do. Then again, top level there is "Certified" SD where you upload your Tax return to the site to prove >$200 K per annum income or bank / brokerage statements proving net worth of >$1 MM. And oh yeah, read how they promote how "secure" you private information is! LOL Tell that to the hackers that got into AM several years ago.
But hey if you do buy a Vanilla Visa card, what's the problem? If it doesn't work you use it to buy something else and only lose a few bucks ($6. 95?[/QUOTE]Ahh. Completely forgot about the FAQ.
Problem with Prepaid card is I always forget about them. Buy them, used them, throw them away. If they're just sitting around unused, I will forget I even had them.
So you're telling me you CAN'T upgrade to Premium membership on SDM and message the babies until you send them your identification? No way in hell I am sending them my government issued I'd. F*k that.
[QUOTE=TopGun9;6575527]Ahh. Completely forgot about the FAQ.
Problem with Prepaid card is I always forget about them. Buy them, used them, throw them away. If they're just sitting around unused, I will forget I even had them.
So you're telling me you CAN'T upgrade to Premium membership on SDM and message the babies until you send them your identification? No way in hell I am sending them my government issued I'd. F*k that.[/QUOTE]What I am trying to suggest in a polite way is something I learned when an A-hole boss, beat me up over something.
[B]The best place to get information that is accurate is the business or site its self (always go to the source).[/B] I know it is fashionable to ask on MBs and SM, but one is never 100% sure they are getting an accurate answer. That site is a business and as such, it is in their best interest to respond to emails or calls, especially as it pertains to collecting money. Monger phone # or monger email should get you the answer you desire.
So go a round with CS and see what you can learn. As far as you forgetting about prepaid cards and just tossing them, er, can't help you there! .
I agree, upgrading to the higher "verified" level does require ID and you are wise to not send that in.
Good luck!
Does anyone use Sugardaddyforme?
Sent around 50-60 messages and have yet to receive a single response.
The site seems like it was designed in the 1990's. Pics look low quality, can't see a baby's join date or last active date / time. Can't sort by newest, most recent active, distance, etc.
Is this site still legit, do you hunt on here?
[QUOTE=JdMannric;6542071]Hey all,
I've got a SB I've been seeing on and off for a minute and she's interested in having one or two additional SDs and I don't mind sharing. She also has an interest in a MFM at some point, so keep that in mind. She has a particular type of guy she goes for that I can discuss via PM. Here's her twitter: [URL]https://twitter.com/puppyinheat.[/URL] She's into a lot, attractive, spinner, and 20. Let me know any other questions. I appreciate I'm not a SM because I don't post on here much, but that is who I will respond to.[/QUOTE]Hey man -- you really shot yourself in the foot -- she is pissed at you for posting on any forum and then sending guys to her. From reading between the lines you had a great thing going with her -- she expressed an interest in some MFM with older guys, you told her you had a friend or two who might be interested. However, she did NOT expect you to pimp her out AND give out her twitter address!! LOL As I said she is pissed, so much so she is off the SB lifestyle for a while.
You need to take more care and do not get so enthusiastic!! ONLY share with 1-2 friends you really know!!
[QUOTE=SaTraveler;6578950]Hey man -- you really shot yourself in the foot -- she is pissed at you for posting on any forum and then sending guys to her. From reading between the lines you had a great thing going with her -- she expressed an interest in some MFM with older guys, you told her you had a friend or two who might be interested. However, she did NOT expect you to pimp her out AND give out her twitter address!! LOL As I said she is pissed, so much so she is off the SB lifestyle for a while.
You need to take more care and do not get so enthusiastic!! ONLY share with 1-2 friends you really know!![/QUOTE]Yeah, most of the girls, while doing prostitution as a Sugar Baby, don't want to think of themselves as prostitutes or professional sex workers. It's a mythology that defines the SB game, that we all learn to play. At the worst girls want to see themselves as UTR.
So to share a girl's offsite info without first asking her and getting her approval is generally not acceptable behavior. But hey, we all mess up from time to time. Just hope others can learn from this dude's mistake and not repeat it.
While this site may have a private club type of feeling, what I have heard from Jackson in the past is that the site is heavily trolled. Probably 75% of the traffic here never posts, never signs up. SO giving out non-public information means that ANYONE can see that info. Also what I have learned over the years is that even Sr status here is no guarantee of the character of the dude.
Look, years ago, I shared an UTR girl I had dated frequently with a Sr dude who posted. I had not vetted him. Turns out he was a disaster. Girls said that within 3-minutes of getting in the care with the dude, she knew things were going to be bad and dangerous. Fortunately she was able to jump out of his car at a stop light and get away. That "recco" by me nearly cost me a good date. That taught me that IF I am going to share, I better know the guy well enough to know he's going to treat the girl well.
So a perspective from some experience in the game. Hope it helps!
You are absolutely right, I agree with you as my UTR also had similar experience. Rather than getting better service in future she scolded me for referral.
So, how should we trust a fellow?
Or should we stop sharing details?
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6586173]Yeah, most of the girls, while doing prostitution as a Sugar Baby, don't want to think of themselves as prostitutes or professional sex workers. It's a mythology that defines the SB game, that we all learn to play. At the worst girls want to see themselves as UTR.
So to share a girl's offsite info without first asking her and getting her approval is generally not acceptable behavior. But hey, we all mess up from time to time. Just hope others can learn from this dude's mistake and not repeat it.
While this site may have a private club type of feeling, what I have heard from Jackson in the past is that the site is heavily trolled. Probably 75% of the traffic here never posts, never signs up. SO giving out non-public information means that ANYONE can see that info. Also what I have learned over the years is that even Sr status here is no guarantee of the character of the dude.
Look, years ago, I shared an UTR girl I had dated frequently with a Sr dude who posted. I had not vetted him. Turns out he was a disaster. Girls said that within 3-minutes of getting in the care with the dude, she knew things were going to be bad and dangerous. Fortunately she was able to jump out of his car at a stop light and get away. That "recco" by me nearly cost me a good date.[/QUOTE]
At crossroads. Need help folks!
Looking to restart paid membership to these sites.
Which one of these would you recommend?
Whatsyourprice got me 60 accepted dates but mostly fakes there to suck away my credits. I met only 8 girls on there out of which 6 were DTF. Overall not bad for $$.
Seeking was not that favorable either.
Neither was SecretBenefits. Again a lot of messages from flaky girls to just exhaust points / credits.
Out of the three, only had my pic up on WYP and secret / private on seeking and secretbenefits so not really apples to apples. Would love to hear if having public profile pics on Seeking or [URL]SB.com[/URL] is a game changer.
Thanks in advance.
Auto.
[QUOTE=Automatic2015;6587199]At crossroads. Need help folks!
Looking to restart paid membership to these sites.
Which one of these would you recommend?
Whatsyourprice got me 60 accepted dates but mostly fakes there to suck away my credits. I met only 8 girls on there out of which 6 were DTF. Overall not bad for $$.
Seeking was not that favorable either.
Neither was SecretBenefits. Again a lot of messages from flaky girls to just exhaust points / credits.
Out of the three, only had my pic up on WYP and secret / private on seeking and secretbenefits so not really apples to apples. Would love to hear if having public profile pics on Seeking or [URL]SB.com[/URL] is a game changer.
Thanks in advance.
Auto.[/QUOTE]IMHO I'd rank WYP at the bottom of the list, followed by SB.
Too many rinsers on WYP and too many warnings that "sex should not be expected on a first date" on the WYP site. Why do I want to burn up credits to rinsers or those who will not reply? Why do I want to form a "contract" with a girl, for her to come eat and drink on my tab and pay her a fee for that with no guarantee she'll head to the FC at any point? I NEVER pay for a Meet & Greet in the Sugar Bowl.
Same with SB, burn up credits. Not sure all PFs on SB are 100% legit and not site or scammer created.
At least with SA one can contact as many girls as they can find the time for. Sure it takes work.
[QUOTE=Vishud;6586670]You are absolutely right, I agree with you as my UTR also had similar experience. Rather than getting better service in future she scolded me for referral.
So, how should we trust a fellow?
Or should we stop sharing details?[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that! Glad you only got scolded and not dumped. Yeah, something in the male brain that thinks it can "score points" with a girl by "sharing" her info or digging deeply into her IRL info and showing her what you found. As you found out the former doesn't work and has the opposite effect. I can assure you that the later is a bad move too. We all make mistakes!
Each dude has to workout how he can trust others. IMHO one gaining "Sr. " status here, as a sole criteria, is a poor choice. What I have found is that the way a dude acts on the boards and in PMs says a lot. But many dudes show up and want the keys to the kingdom handed to them for asking. OR they want to trade and what they have to offer is some girl who posts 100 times on STG or elsewhere. So what I have done is offer up B or C grade girls that I know well and who will supply an honest review back to me. BUT I make 100% certain the girl knows that I only know the dude from "online" chat rooms etc and have never met. While I am vouching for him, I'm also suggesting there is an unknown quantity as well. Frequently I'll have the dude share his number with me and I can pss it along to the girl and she can decide to contact him or have her number given to the dude. That cuts down on the dude sharing the girl's number with 5 buddies before he's made contact.
Sharing details? As you found out IF you want to keep seeing an UTR girl or SB then one needs to keep their cards to their vest. For girls on the SB sites that are scammers, pic sellers, GPS or other negative "stuff" is important to share those details. But if you think this site is private or that girls will never see a post here? Think again. Many resources for girls doing this work and of course there is always the "White Knight" that thinks he is currying favor with the girl by showing her that some guy posted about her. Never seen that work.
Hey, I've tried to read up here on the latest advice for opening a new account, but could someone confirm I have everything right so I don't lose $200?
For context, my account was banned early last year (thankfully right after I found someone longterm, until she moved away recently).
1) Vanilla Visa card, wait 24 hours after purchase.
2) Go to a public wifi at Starbucks or wherever.
3) Use incognito mode to register (someone recommended Brave browser).
4) Use new email address, new name, new photo, new bio.
5) Going forward, only log into SA from incognito mode.
That everything?
Also, any advice for how take a photo that's real and works better than the nothing, but still not recognizable? (I naively didn't GAF last time and found out later I was recognized by someone at work who talked about it behind my back like it was some kind of scandal).
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;6555569]Not her first rodeo, she gets that she's here for sex and is willing to meet at the FC. OK lay, definitely been fairly high volume. Zoha's body is a little flabby, but her boobs are enormous. She insisted on cover. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/601e980b-a009-4f41-a952-a88d11ad5d0e[/URL].[/QUOTE]Meeting with her this weekend. How much did you offer?
[QUOTE=ElectricHug;6588978]Hey, I've tried to read up here on the latest advice for opening a new account, but could someone confirm I have everything right so I don't lose $200?
For context, my account was banned early last year (thankfully right after I found someone longterm, until she moved away recently).
1) Vanilla Visa card, wait 24 hours after purchase.
2) Go to a public wifi at Starbucks or wherever.
3) Use incognito mode to register (someone recommended Brave browser).
4) Use new email address, new name, new photo, new bio.
5) Going forward, only log into SA from incognito mode.
That everything?
Also, any advice for how take a photo that's real and works better than the nothing, but still not recognizable? (I naively didn't GAF last time and found out later I was recognized by someone at work who talked about it behind my back like it was some kind of scandal).[/QUOTE]You can no longer find OneVanilla prepaid debit cards, the ones that work. I posted all about this.
[QUOTE=BallerTbakflsl;6589023]Meeting with her this weekend. How much did you offer?[/QUOTE]Use to get it in the 2 range and last time 3.
First- someone pretending to be her a year or so ago made an account with her pics, an ex or pimp or something. Based on the pics this time and the way the profile reads I would guess this one is really her, though proceed with caution.
Second, an innocent SB she is not. She's been around the block, used to UTR and occasionally would SW. I would have sampled in the past but I know her IRL so it wasn't an option. She also had a habit she's tried several times to kick, last I knew she had but again, caution advised. Also, nothing over low end escort prices would be advised and she'd probably go right to a FC. If you do get her text don't be surprised if you're texting a bf/pimp.
If any of ya'll hounds from SW or escort could vouch if you seen her you could back up what I'm saying. Also if you have her nudes feel free to send them my way because curiosity has always been there for me LOL.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4f36a529-b09a-4c49-b42f-c26a6788f23f[/URL]#.
I have been noticing something odd recently on SA. There will be a profile thumbnail in search. When you click on it, the profile opens, and there is just one profile photo, but it isn't the same one as was on the search. And there are no other photos on the profile. That is usually a reason for concern, fake profiles often have only the single profile photo.
Anyone else notice this? Have any ideas what is going on?
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6589363][b]You can no longer find OneVanilla prepaid debit cards, the ones that work.[/b] I posted all about this.[/QUOTE]Er, um, ah...... Not to be contentious or disagreeable toward my esteemed colleague, but.....
A few months ago (June), in response to a monger who couldn't "find" the cards, I did a survey and went to 4 different sites for large chain drug stores. What I found was that BOTH the "OneVanilla" (not to be confused with a Vanilla card) could still be found as well as the newer version "Secure Spend" card.
Here is my post with pictures of BOTH cards on offer in the radius of a mile or so.
Post #514.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30762-DE-Sugar&p=6500275&viewfull=1[/URL]#post6500275.
Of course YMMV, depending on location, store, phase of the moon and COVID lockdowns!
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6590509]Er, um, ah...... Not to be contentious or disagreeable toward my esteemed colleague, but.....
A few months ago (June), in response to a monger who couldn't "find" the cards, I did a survey and went to 4 different sites for large chain drug stores. What I found was that BOTH the "OneVanilla" (not to be confused with a Vanilla card) could still be found as well as the newer version "Secure Spend" card.
Here is my post with pictures of BOTH cards on offer in the radius of a mile or so.
Post #514.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30762-DE-Sugar&p=6500275&viewfull=1[/URL]#post6500275.
Of course YMMV, depending on location, store, phase of the moon and COVID lockdowns![/QUOTE]Hey, bowl brother, no problem. If you can find the authentic OneVanilla prepaid debit card in your town, you are a lucky dog. IK they still work, that is what I used to get my membership this month. It was one I had in the deepfreeze from earlier, just anticipating that I was going to have hard time finding them in the future. Now that I know that Blackhawk cards also work, we have two guns in our holsters.
Another scammer, plays good game with hot pics and then comes the deposit for travel Insurance. I asked what that was and answer "gas". When questioned, I get the " are you a nice man or a mean man" LOL.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c105bfd2-713d-40c1-9b00-86ff74f9104b[/URL]
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6589363]You can no longer find OneVanilla prepaid debit cards, the ones that work. I posted all about this.[/QUOTE]Ended up not even trying the one I bought, went to Lowe's and found a Blackhawk-issued $100 card instead (there were tons), waited till the next afternoon, parked outside a McDonald's with wifi, and it worked. No ban so far after a couple days. Thanks.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/45a17b32-4af5-4d97-a071-b3ccc66d49ca[/URL]
Be careful with this one. Got contacted by this one. Started off odd because at first they only had the 2 face pics. During conversation I asked for more pics and they sent pic of different girl. Phone was in front of face and barely could see. Told they their pic didn't match profile. Sent another clearer pic but seemed to be a different pic from other one. Still discussed a fairly cheap price so I figured she was a low end escort made arrangements to earlier today to meet tonight because she had a kid. I had to run out of town today so that was fine. Stated she lived in Colonial Heights. When I got to CH I went to a gas station and contacted her to let her know I was in CH. She told me she was waiting for her mom to pick up her kid (who supposed to have been gone 2 hours ago) or I could come if I had a firearm because she had trouble before. I asked how long before her people get there and that I wasn't getting involved with her business. Said people was on the way and then came back to the question about if I carried a firearm again. I stated I did but her problems weren't my problems. I then stated that I wasn't waiting around long. She then came back again to the firearm question. Trying to get me to say what caliber my weapon was. I told her that you sound like you trying to set me up. Claimed that she was just trying to make conversation. I told to find other shit to talk about. I ended up just leaving the store and going home.
I know I'll regret this but I decided to purchase a membership since they are having a 25% off sale today. I chatted with this girl goes by Salty. I saw that she liked me so I sent her a text. Howeverly after just one email she asks me if I wanted to meet up with her. Red flag one. Then I get her to text right away and she gives me her address. Red flag 2 and your out. She is iether a Pro (best case scenario), a scammer or the cops. Play it safe people.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/951dac61-b14d-4f5f-b29c-beca66408c07[/URL]
[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;6594543]I know I'll regret this but I decided to purchase a membership since they are having a 25% off sale today. I chatted with this girl goes by Salty. I saw that she liked me so I sent her a text. Howeverly after just one email she asks me if I wanted to meet up with her. Red flag one. Then I get her to text right away and she gives me her address. Red flag 2 and your out. She is iether a Pro (best case scenario), a scammer or the cops. Play it safe people.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/951dac61-b14d-4f5f-b29c-beca66408c07[/URL][/QUOTE]She is probably semi pro. Been around for awhile.
Redheaded siren I see she has had a profile on SA and SB for a while just wondering if anyone has samples her.
FineLover.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f63af0df-f691-483f-b835-3bb419a5414c[/URL]
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=Cowboy1964;6594811]Redheaded siren I see she has had a profile on SA and SB for a while just wondering if anyone has samples her.[/QUOTE]I saw her before. Definitely dtf. Host at her apartment and you should be able to get her for the low. Only issue was she was only available early mornings.
[QUOTE=SkidMarks;6594069][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/45a17b32-4af5-4d97-a071-b3ccc66d49ca[/URL]
Be careful with this one. Got contacted by this one. Started off odd because at first they only had the 2 face pics. During conversation I asked for more pics and they sent pic of different girl. Phone was in front of face and barely could see. Told they their pic didn't match profile. Sent another clearer pic but seemed to be a different pic from other one. Still discussed a fairly cheap price so I figured she was a low end escort made arrangements to earlier today to meet tonight because she had a kid. I had to run out of town today so that was fine. Stated she lived in Colonial Heights. When I got to CH I went to a gas station and contacted her to let her know I was in CH. She told me she was waiting for her mom to pick up her kid (who supposed to have been gone 2 hours ago) or I could come if I had a firearm because she had trouble before. I asked how long before her people get there and that I wasn't getting involved with her business. Said people was on the way and then came back to the question about if I carried a firearm again. I stated I did but her problems weren't my problems. I then stated that I wasn't waiting around long. She then came back again to the firearm question. Trying to get me to say what caliber my weapon was. I told her that you sound like you trying to set me up. Claimed that she was just trying to make conversation. I told to find other shit to talk about. I ended up just leaving the store and going home.[/QUOTE]Personally I would have quit the first time she asked if I had a weapon. That's not legit in the Sugar Bowl.
Well it is only day 2 and already regretting getting a membership to SA. So this girl has been talked about on this thread and of the two who talked about her I know one guy said he had visted her a few times. So I reached out to her and this girl wants money for just a meet and greet. Yeah that is a hard pass for me. I think her head has gotten a little swollen or may be she is just tired of the flakes.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8ea46412-5ef6-416b-b22e-246a26e5e0a2.[/URL] I do wish her the best but no way am I going to pay just for a meet a greet. Those are signs of a scammer.
So I did some research on here and I was only able to find review about her on here. I think I can set up a meet and greet but I am getting strong escort vibes. One of her pics looks famliar as in I think I may have seen it on an escort site but it could just be me.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/42a88ccf-bdd9-48c2-b3d6-02517ec3a046[/URL]
[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;6594543]I know I'll regret this but I decided to purchase a membership since they are having a 25% off sale today. I chatted with this girl goes by Salty. I saw that she liked me so I sent her a text. Howeverly after just one email she asks me if I wanted to meet up with her. Red flag one. Then I get her to text right away and she gives me her address. Red flag 2 and your out. She is iether a Pro (best case scenario), a scammer or the cops. Play it safe people.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/951dac61-b14d-4f5f-b29c-beca66408c07[/URL][/QUOTE]Been around for a while as Lexi, well known on the boards and reviewed. Should be able to find reviews here and on NOVA board. DM for more info, but she's fun. Think she may read here as well.
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6595466]Personally I would have quit the first time she asked if I had a weapon. That's not legit in the Sugar Bowl.[/QUOTE]Actually I was done at that point but I just wanted to see where the conversation would go. Update: Do you know she hit me up around midnight saying she just got back and she ready to meet? I told her that I was no longer interested. Then she hit me up again last night and I just repeated myself.
[QUOTE=EasyeOne;6589970]Use to get it in the 2 range and last time 3.[/QUOTE]Did she actually pull through or was she coming across as a scam account?