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[QUOTE=Jj6969;6808837]If anyone is interested tonight is Sandy mamas last day before the change over. They're closed tomorrow then Michelle takes over. Heard that most of the girls are quiting and a new / old crew is coming.[/QUOTE]Anyone go last night?
[QUOTE=Blacks;6789227]Downstairs bar ownership changing in mid March. When the failed Rail project come into the are (IF). The city is losing so much money Mayor after Mayor, Gov after Gov, Senators and City Council have failed our tax payers. No solutions for homeless, affordable housing, cost of living etc. Rail will raise fees to all tax payers and the connected real estate tycoons will get richer and richer. More locals will relocate to mainland being priced out of Paradise for $$ Bar guys like us have less choices look at all the bars that have closed and redeveloped.[/QUOTE]ZThe hostess bars will have to move or die as rail will drive up property taxes near all the stations. Already the rich / connected have been buying up that property. The good old days are gone. What's is next? Who knows but it doesn't look good for the average working guy.
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[QUOTE=Blacks;6799019]Heard its much larger, they took over the business next door, not sure it they demo'd the entire wall or made just wide enough for building code.[/QUOTE]Stopped by a few days ago. Place looked to be the same size. I did notice they took out the pool table and added a few more booths.
[QUOTE=WickedTuna;6809186]Anyone go last night?[/QUOTE]SRO Very crowded a covid super spreader event.
[QUOTE=Jj6969;6811548]SRO Very crowded a covid super spreader event.[/QUOTE]LOL. I walked in, scanned the bar and booths, turned around and walked out as I held my breath. Ended up hitting the other 3 places across the parking lot. Lilac & 5-0 were very slow. Honu was mildly busy with the usual staff in place. Jessica mama, Jessie & Yuki at the bar, Cindy and a few others on the floor. Passed on Vegas & Eclipse. Parking lots at Golden Tree, 1010 were empty so didn't bother. Bday party at 904 tonight and Green Tee reopening, both superspreader events LOL. Stay safe this weekend gentlemen.
[QUOTE=Jj6969;6811548]SRO Very crowded a covid super spreader event.[/QUOTE]LOL, good one!
Got there and the food was gone. Fuck. Some familiar faces and a couple new ones. Not as packed as I thought it would be on opening night. I did reach there around 10:30. Noticed Golden Tree closed and 1010 open but no cars outside while heading to Green Tee. Official grand opening is the 18th and 19th.
[QUOTE=Xphile808;6810262]Stopped by a few days ago. Place looked to be the same size. I did notice they took out the pool table and added a few more booths.[/QUOTE]Mmmm so I guess someone gave me the wrong info. They said they added another space next door. I drove by last night and it was packed, no parking. I guess Kalihi is the only water holes. Be careful guys heard last week a coward punched out a girl at Spot Lite knocked her to the ground and drove off. Heard he was drinking with a friend named MR. "D" that works at Lexus Hawaii. He was local about 5' 6 to 5'8" salt and pepper hair and has a facial hair. Mr. "D" and this coward drink regularly in Kalihi. Heard the girl required medial attention and Police report was made so its a Felony Assault - 2 which means up to 10 yrs in prison, fine. Hope his is caught and he can drink all he wants behind bars. What a coward to hit a woman he doesn't even know and his friend never checked in the injured person so he can be charged too. More than like a detective will pay him a visit at Lexus, that will not be good for him. The girl now there faces and there was video recordings so it maybe a matter of time. When bars get crowded and the alcohol is flowing like the old days there will be more and more fights. Be careful guys.
[QUOTE=MacSaladNoise;6812049]Got there and the food was gone. Fuck. Some familiar faces and a couple new ones. Not as packed as I thought it would be on opening night. I did reach there around 10:30. Noticed Golden Tree closed and 1010 open but no cars outside while heading to Green Tee. Official grand opening is the 18th and 19th.[/QUOTE]Dropped by tonight. Place was slow. Confirmed with Michelle mama that grand opening is scheduled on the 18-19th. Saw 2 ex-GT kbgs working floor at 5-O but it was slow as well. It may just be a rumor but I heard from 2 sources that 5-0 may be changing management in the short time. Stay safe this week.
[QUOTE=MakaKiller;6813785]Dropped by tonight. Place was slow. Confirmed with Michelle mama that grand opening is scheduled on the 18-19th. Saw 2 ex-GT kbgs working floor at 5-O but it was slow as well. It may just be a rumor but I heard from 2 sources that 5-0 may be changing management in the short time. Stay safe this week.[/QUOTE]Would you care to share who the new management will be?
[QUOTE=MakaKiller;6813785]Dropped by tonight. Place was slow. Confirmed with Michelle mama that grand opening is scheduled on the 18-19th. Saw 2 ex-GT kbgs working floor at 5-O but it was slow as well. It may just be a rumor but I heard from 2 sources that 5-0 may be changing management in the short time. Stay safe this week.[/QUOTE]Checked out green tea and it was very slow. Also the grand opening is postponed to sometime in April. Not enough women working. Funny how it went from one of the busiest bar to one of the slowest. Sandy mama will be missed. Hope she enjoys her retirement.
[QUOTE=MakaKiller;6813785]Dropped by tonight. Place was slow. Confirmed with Michelle mama that grand opening is scheduled on the 18-19th. Saw 2 ex-GT kbgs working floor at 5-O but it was slow as well. It may just be a rumor but I heard from 2 sources that 5-0 may be changing management in the short time. Stay safe this week.[/QUOTE]I thought that place was packed, standing room only? What happened.
[QUOTE=Blacks;6816504]I thought that place was packed, standing room only? What happened.[/QUOTE]SRO was only because of Andy's bday and Sandy mama's retirement party. It died when Michelle took over.
[QUOTE=Jj6969;6817515]SRO was only because of Andy's bday and Sandy mama's retirement party. It died when Michelle took over.[/QUOTE]He looked quite dapper all dressed in black that night. I was quite surprised to see him actually walk across the parking lot to visit K mama at 5-0. I figured he'd be all buss up by that time early morning. Hope you had a nice Bday Andy.
[QUOTE=Xphile808;6810262]Stopped by a few days ago. Place looked to be the same size. I did notice they took out the pool table and added a few more booths.[/QUOTE]Dropped in for a few. Pool table gone and an office in the back. Slight improvement in the men's room but still not much larger than a phone booth. Bar back looked familiar / recycled but not sure from where. Good number of decent looking recycled ex GT and Spotlite kbgs. Nky mama looked curvaceous as heck. Bar was full as well as a few of the booths. Karaoke was taking over. Not bad for non-weekend night. Stay Safe.
[QUOTE=Jj6969;6817515]SRO was only because of Andy's bday and Sandy mama's retirement party. It died when Michelle took over.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I don't know who Michelle's sponsor is but he is throwing money down the crapper. She has zero ability to recruit girls and is a worse mama. She will drive GT straight into the ground imo. At Wave she had maybe 3 girls who were consistent workers. And they weren't the gt caliber types so I doubt gt will be even half as successful as it was under the former trio of mamas.
[QUOTE=FleshPrince;6818938]Agreed. I don't know who Michelle's sponsor is but he is throwing money down the crapper. She has zero ability to recruit girls and is a worse mama. She will drive GT straight into the ground imo. At Wave she had maybe 3 girls who were consistent workers. And they weren't the gt caliber types so I doubt gt will be even half as successful as it was under the former trio of mamas.[/QUOTE]FP You described it perfectly. When gt was close to the changeover she should have been schmoozing the girls and buying them drinks so that they would stay and help her. She has no bar mama skills. What a shame.
Takes skill to be one KB owner / mama. Not one easy job juggling KBGs, customers, vendors, staff, sponsor (s), thugs, and the like; the KB will go down more quickly than getting stuck on the offshore reef (and more bussup). The sinking of the ship all begins when the mama starts to think only about making money for her / themselves. So far, in my short but somewhat intense KB career (spanning from 1970-present), Sandy was the best nicest overall and Ann/Patty the best overall greedy-fake-sleaze mamas. IMO, of course.
[QUOTE=MitsFunai;6819796]Takes skill to be one KB owner / mama. Not one easy job juggling KBGs, customers, vendors, staff, sponsor (s), thugs, and the like; the KB will go down more quickly than getting stuck on the offshore reef (and more bussup). The sinking of the ship all begins when the mama starts to think only about making money for her / themselves. So far, in my short but somewhat intense KB career (spanning from 1970-present), Sandy was the best nicest overall and Ann/Patty the best overall greedy-fake-sleaze mamas. IMO, of course.[/QUOTE]Can anyone tell me when a mama leases a bar, how much do they need to make to be a successful business lease for one year? 100 k profit?
[QUOTE=WickedTuna;6821700]Can anyone tell me when a mama leases a bar, how much do they need to make to be a successful business lease for one year? 100 k profit?[/QUOTE]Depending on the size of KB and lease agreement (if any), need up to $100 K per month to break even or turn one somewhat small profit. Hard for turn one $100 K profit per year; usually owning one KB is one front for criminal events (money laundering, etc.) and one wahine vanity run. Maybe the KB was once used as one outlet for alleged overseas criminal activities.
It's this Thursday. Any recommendations?
[QUOTE=MacSaladNoise;6824680]It's this Thursday. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Hehe. It depends. What or where did you give her for Valentine's?
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[QUOTE=MacSaladNoise;6824680]It's this Thursday. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Forget about material stuffs. Oh yeah, they will take um but what they really treasure most.
Is cold cash and lots of it. With Korean bar babes, this is what they most want and need.
A few days ago, I saw a very large bouquet of roses some fool gave to the mama for her birthday.
Was told it cost $500. The bartender agreed that it was a waste of money. Cold cash is king.
[QUOTE=MakaKiller;6818271]Dropped in for a few. Pool table gone and an office in the back. Slight improvement in the men's room but still not much larger than a phone booth. Bar back looked familiar / recycled but not sure from where. Good number of decent looking recycled ex GT and Spotlite kbgs. Nky mama looked curvaceous as heck. Bar was full as well as a few of the booths. Karaoke was taking over. Not bad for non-weekend night. Stay Safe.[/QUOTE]Agree totally on NK assessment. Went last night and bar was quite busy compared to all the others in Kalihiland. GT dead, Vegas very slow, Lucky Hono had like 3 floor girls and unusually dead. NK was busiest by far.
[QUOTE=Apd30;6826444]Forget about material stuffs. Oh yeah, they will take um but what they really treasure most.
Is cold cash and lots of it. With Korean bar babes, this is what they most want and need.
A few days ago, I saw a very large bouquet of roses some fool gave to the mama for her birthday.
Was told it cost $500. The bartender agreed that it was a waste of money. Cold cash is king.[/QUOTE]Who was the mama that had her birthday the other day. I heard Sarah mama's birthday was last week Thursday.
[QUOTE=WickedTuna;6829354]Who was the mama that had her birthday the other day. I heard Sarah mama's birthday was last week Thursday.[/QUOTE]Yup Sarah had her BD celebration last week. For her age she is a great looking K MILF and is as sweet and gracious as ever. I can see why she is so successful as a KB mama. Stay safe this weekend handsome.
Does anyone remember Hana at one of the KBs in Pearl City? Older lady must be 70+ now and she had massive titties! Is she still around?
Kinda quiet now days in town. NB was empty last time I went but I think it's because EVERYONE was in the private rooms. Saw mama walking out with stacks of cash all wrapped up. Someone dropped some big $$.
Checked out Camelot recently too. Saw this one really skinny girl with long blonde hair worn down, not to be confused with the slightly bigger blonde with her hair up. Any info on this girl? Anyways, the older female waitress still just cracks me up. Doesn't seem to have a total grasp on English and cannot count change so constant complaints about that unless she's hustling for bigger tips.
[QUOTE=Ilvasians;6829509]Does anyone remember Hana at one of the KBs in Pearl City? Older lady must be 70+ now and she had massive titties! Is she still around?[/QUOTE]Hana Marie? Last time I was in pc I saw her at acacia.
[QUOTE=WickedTuna;6829927]Hana Marie? Last time I was in pc I saw her at acacia.[/QUOTE]Yes I too have seen her intermittently at Acacia so I cannot confirm her work schedule. Amazingly large. I was also introduced to the mama there who said she used to work the floor at Destiny now known as Sunflower. She is very gracious and has a pretty smile. Stay Safe gentlemen.
[QUOTE=Shipshape;6828482]Agree totally on NK assessment. Went last night and bar was quite busy compared to all the others in Kalihiland. GT dead, Vegas very slow, Lucky Hono had like 3 floor girls and unusually dead. NK was busiest by far.[/QUOTE]Bars transfer between Mama; s happening. 904, Star Lite etc. Most of the girls staying put.
[QUOTE=Blacks;6830565]Bars transfer between Mama; s happening. 904, Star Lite etc. Most of the girls staying put.[/QUOTE]Viet bartender at Starlite moving mauka soon. Several GT kbgs on vacay in the motherland will need to decide their fate upon return. Leases at GT and Platinum changed and Honu pending. Money still follows the ladies.
Next week Wednesday & Thursday the 3rd & 4th.
Also on a side note, Keiko Mama will return to Lucky Honu next week as well.
[QUOTE=Ilvasians;6829509]Does anyone remember Hana at one of the KBs in Pearl City? Older lady must be 70+ now and she had massive titties! Is she still around?[/QUOTE]I believe that was her working 2 nights ago at Acacia.
[QUOTE=MakaKiller;6843168]I believe that was her working 2 nights ago at Acacia.[/QUOTE]Aloha Guys: I have only going to the bars in the daytime with my friends since I didn't want to drive at night due to several reasons. I am now thinking of resuming my evening outings so If anyone has some good places to frequent, let me know, TIA.
[QUOTE=MushiBoy;6846446]Aloha Guys: I have only going to the bars in the daytime with my friends since I didn't want to drive at night due to several reasons. I am now thinking of resuming my evening outings so If anyone has some good places to frequent, let me know, TIA.[/QUOTE]Where do you go during your daytime tour?
[QUOTE=MushiBoy;6846446]Aloha Guys: I have only going to the bars in the daytime with my friends since I didn't want to drive at night due to several reasons. I am now thinking of resuming my evening outings so If anyone has some good places to frequent, let me know, TIA.[/QUOTE]Lots of "mama moves" of late so the bars will be changing personalities. Starlite should return to its old self as returning mama gets her girls together. Lucky Hono is probably going to go downhill as new / old mama will drive girls away. NKs on King Street is doing pretty good. Green Tea has fallen off with new owners. Its all about the management. Treat the girls right and they will come.
[QUOTE=WickedTuna;6846729]Where do you go during your daytime tour?[/QUOTE]We usually go all over from Pearl City (Sunflower, Acadia, etc) Aiea (Bonita, Old Hama's Place next to Pin Thai), Kalihi (NK which is the old Platinum, Club Vegas, Emerald City, 904, Oasis, 1010. Lucky Hono. Etc.). Mostly only older ladies during the day if you like those folks. I heard the night time ladies come out after 8:00 pm for most places. I guess the pretty and younger ones come out at that time.
[QUOTE=Shipshape;6846955]Lots of "mama moves" of late so the bars will be changing personalities. Starlite should return to its old self as returning mama gets her girls together. Lucky Hono is probably going to go downhill as new / old mama will drive girls away. NKs on King Street is doing pretty good. Green Tea has fallen off with new owners. Its all about the management. Treat the girls right and they will come.[/QUOTE]I think for Starlite that Mama is not likeable, lots of girls don't want to work for her. Some are there since they are waiting for previous Mama; s to open a place then they will bail from Starlite.
At Starlite, do you mean Tina mama that came from 904.
[QUOTE=Blacks;6848450]I think for Starlite that Mama is not likeable, lots of girls don't want to work for her. Some are there since they are waiting for previous Mama; s to open a place then they will bail from Starlite.[/QUOTE]