Strip Club Reports

I have been following this forum for some time and have been a member for sometime. I will post details about a series of Visits to various clubs. I made 10 visits to 3 clubs in the last 3 weeks. I plan to stop for some time and rethink. It is probably better to have a safe sugarbaby by paying the same $1000.

Last Wednesday I visited BT's at around 4 PM. Typical crowd a lot of 6 to 7's. Talked to a blonde with medium build, not rail thin or Big, name is Cassidy or some thing like that. I don't remember Exactly.

Asked 130 for BJ, negotiated a CBJ for 100. She does not do Extras. Pretty mechanical and does not like to talk, very business like, tried to finish it ASAP. Was done in 2 songs. Not highly impressed.

Last Saturday, I went to Coli's at around 3PM. Empty club, couple of hot girls and lots of drama. 3 girls sat with me. Bought one of them a drink. None of the good looking girls were willing to do any extras. Got some dances with a good looking blonde called Isabella. She got completely nude. Good bit of roaming and digits. But no extras.

These days I found that lots of good looking girls in COli and Penthouse are not doing extras or asking too much for a BJ let alone FS.

About 2 weeks ago, I went to penthouse and met with a good looking tall blonde. She was quite tall, and small cups. We discussed before we went back. Wanted $$$$ for a BJ. I did not even negotiate and went back for just dances, she had lots of rules to touching of Cups, no kissing, no anything and I said no aftter 1 song. She generally sits on the bar during daytime with another blonde called rafale or something like that.

Then I got a CBJ from a blonde thin girl for $.2. She did an ok job and talked friendly and was willing to meet outside.

After spending roughly grand and half in a span of 3 weeks. I plan to stop and I am looking to other options. Not into SW's which I think is too risky.

Lots of good info, but as you point out, clubs can quickly drain the wallet with little satisfaction. I have moved away from the clubs in general, favoring a provider instead as I know what I will be getting for my money.

[QUOTE=Chris Flasher; 1420618]I have been following this forum for some time and have been a member for sometime. I will post details about a series of Visits to various clubs. I made 10 visits to 3 clubs in the last 3 weeks. I plan to stop for some time and rethink. It is probably better to have a safe sugarbaby by paying the same $1000.

Last Wednesday I visited BT's at around 4 PM. Typical crowd a lot of 6 to 7's. Talked to a blonde with medium build, not rail thin or Big, name is Cassidy or some thing like that. I don't remember Exactly.

Asked 130 for BJ, negotiated a CBJ for 100. She does not do Extras. Pretty mechanical and does not like to talk, very business like, tried to finish it ASAP. Was done in 2 songs. Not highly impressed.

Last Saturday, I went to Coli's at around 3PM. Empty club, couple of hot girls and lots of drama. 3 girls sat with me. Bought one of them a drink. None of the good looking girls were willing to do any extras. Got some dances with a good looking blonde called Isabella. She got completely nude. Good bit of roaming and digits. But no extras.

These days I found that lots of good looking girls in COli and Penthouse are not doing extras or asking too much for a BJ let alone FS.

About 2 weeks ago, I went to penthouse and met with a good looking tall blonde. She was quite tall, and small cups. We discussed before we went back. Wanted $$$$ for a BJ. I did not even negotiate and went back for just dances, she had lots of rules to touching of Cups, no kissing, no anything and I said no aftter 1 song. She generally sits on the bar during daytime with another blonde called rafale or something like that.

Then I got a CBJ from a blonde thin girl for $.2. She did an ok job and talked friendly and was willing to meet outside.

After spending roughly grand and half in a span of 3 weeks. I plan to stop and I am looking to other options. Not into SW's which I think is too risky.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=John3030;1420786]Lots of good info, but as you point out, clubs can quickly drain the wallet with little satisfaction. I have moved away from the clubs in general, favoring a provider instead as I know what I will be getting for my money.[/QUOTE]Ditto and there are some hot providers out there.

Visited on a Tuesday evening, after spending the afternoon at BT's. *Paid a $5 cover. *Definitely a small club, as mentioned in other reviews. Upon walking in, a hot brunette with bolt-ons was working the stage. A guy was making it rain on her, and he had a group of friends. *I sat down and took a beer from the waitress. There appeared to be 4-5 girls working (all*6s and 7s, one Black, rest White) , a bartender, shot girl, DJ, and doorman. *

I was immediately approached by C, a young and hot thick brunette with blond highlights (I would rate her a 7). *She basically gave me the Henry's Handshake and I knew it was time for fun! I bought her and I a couple of shots, then discussed the menu. *She quoted $ for BBBJ, $$ for FS. *I was only in the mood for the first option, so I negotiated $60, ($10 dance night) with an $20 tip if she can finish in under 4 songs. C* agreed and we went to the "back".

Paid $10 bouncer fee and went back to a dark curtained booth that looked to hold two seats with a separator between them. It provided enough privacy for me. *I intentionally did not scrutinize the carpet or walls. *And I have to hand it to C, as I finished about halfway through the third song. *Since my eyes were in the back of my head, I couldn't tell if any spilled out. *But she never spit, and my clothes remained dry. **I would put that in the top 5 BJs received all time. *

I would return, but would try some other places first.

Reviewed on: April 8, 2012.

Visited on: Tuesday Afternoon.

Dancers on Shift: 11-25.

Dancers

Value Atmosphere.

Overall.

This review covers two visits on consecutive days. *

While in town on business, I visited on a Tuesday for a late lunch. *Got valet parking, no cover charge. Was greeted by Janelle (waitress) and Juanita (shot girl) , who both remembered me from a previous visit. I sat at a booth and ordered the BOGO special on Bud Lite Lime. *

There was a bit of a dancer shortage until about 2pm. I would say about 4 girls before, and maybe 7-8 after. The talent level was quite low, though. *I think there was one Black. 1 multiracial Black, and the rest White. I would describe most in the 6-8 range, but 2 of the White girls had no business dancing. I seriously asked a dancer if those two girls were the House Moms. *When I first arrived, there appeared to be 5-6 other customers, but before too long, there would only be me and another small group. *

While I waited for my ATF, I did shots with J & J. We had a good time and I got introduced to the DJ, who played my two requests. After my ATF arrived, I had some fun and games with the girls, then went back for a half hour. Paid the $20 bouncer tax, and got to the main event. *Got the whole GFE, and finished completely satisfied. *

After freshening up and returning to my booth, did some more shots with J&J, plus my ATF. *However this party atmosphere attracted a few Klingons. I offered one a seat, her name was A. *A young, tan spinner with light brown hair. I would rate her a 7. *While drinking and hanging out at the booth, she kept getting closer and closer. Despite the fact that my ATF was sitting close and snuggling up, A* starts giving me a Canadian Handy J! *She also whispered into my ear about how much fun we could have in VIP. I had to decline because I had to go, but told her I would return the next day. *

I did return the following day at lunchtime *to meet up with a fellow TUSCL member. Janelle and my ATF were not working, but Juanita and Kristal Lynn (waitress) took care of me. *We all did shots, plus A* joined us. *

There were way more girls on Wednesday, at least 12, maybe 15. *Not all girls did stage shows, so it was hard to tell. The unattractive girls from the previous day were nowhere to be found, and the overall talent level was higher. I would say all 7 and 8s, with two 9s.

After partying for 30 minutes or so, A* and I went back for the main event. *Before heading back, I had negotiated $150 for a warm up dance, DFK, masturbation dance, DATY, CG, K9, BBBJ, and CIM lasting about 20-25 minutes. I said if I got everything, I would tip on top of that. She agreed to these terms. *

Once we started our dance she starts to show her amateur status. She says,"what's DFK?" I explain. *After that she says,"I've never done a masturbation dance, what do I do?" *Me: "Um, dance around and play with your pussy." *After half a song of this I ask her to turn around and do it. Immediately she says,"I hope you don't want to stick it in my butt, I tried it with a small guy, and it really hurt!" Well I just wanted to see her play with herself from behind. *

Okay after that I was ready to fuck, so I grab the condom and say,"let's do it." *I shit you not, she says,"so what's Cow Girl?" *OMFG! *I'm not into amateurs or newbies, and she talked such a good game before, I couldn't believe how much instruction I had to give her. *Anyway A* gets on top and fucks for like half a song, and is completely out of breath. *So she says,"let's switch to doggie so you can cum."*

We switch and I hit it for a song, and she keeps asking for it harder. So I hit it harder. Before the second song is up, she starts saying "you're hurting me", and rushing me to finish, saying we've been back here a long time. So she has us switch to a BJ, but informs me that he doesn't let guys come in her mouth. WTF? *Now I'm getting the bait and switch here. Her technique was way too gentle for a covered BJ, and I end up taking control myself for a chest finale. * I gave her money and asked,"do you remember what I said about a tip?". She did, but just wasn't used to going so long.

Now I understand that some guys don't go very long before finishing, but others will go much longer. I told her up front everything I wanted and how long it might be. * The fact of the matter is that she didn't deliver. *I love BT's, and will be returning, but no more VIP with A. She was a sweet girl, so I'm not throwing her name in this report. (PM me if you want it). But it was a waste of time considering the other available hotties.

I hit the restroom to cleanup, paid my tab, and left. *

Driving back to Ohio from a business trip and a couple of Dearborn clubs, I decided I had to stop into the King's Court. I arrived just before cover started, so I didn't pay anything to get in. I sat at the bar and talked to Tricia, the 14 year veteran bartender that looks like Erin Gray from Buck Rogers in the 80s. We had a great conversation, and she remembered my previous drink order from almost six months ago.

I counted only 5 girls working. A, a 40ish platinum blond, the one Black girl that works there, a chunky brunette with some Latin heritage, and a really hot, tan brunette. I would put A* around a 6, and the other girls around 5, but the tan brunette was an easy 8, maybe a 9, but I only saw her in passing. Her body was banging! She had bolt-ons and nice hair.

I was going to make a move on the hottie, but as soon as I turned around A* cock blocked me. Literally. With her hand. She remembered me from previous visits. We had a great conversation for about thirty minutes. After that we went back for a few VIP dances. 25 minutes worth. I got the usual services at the usual rate. HJ, CG, K9, BBBJ, CIM. I'm not sure how much $10 dance Wednesday affected things.

The VIP area has been modified since my last visit. Now there are four booths, but they are shallower than before. Also the girls spent their own money on some throw rugs, so they don't have to put their knees on the concrete floor.

After the fun I sat at the bar and bought drinks for the waitresses and doorman. Everybody was very nice and I got some free passes. I would return, I always have a nice time.

Stopped into Coli around 1 pm. Mostly 6s and 7s. 2 really cute tall Black girls. Saw 2 exceptionally curvy girls who caught my attention. 1 was Italian, the other appeared to be a dyed blonde Brazilian. Turned down the Brazilian in favor of the Italian who was cut like a diamond, had curves like a snake. She wanted 25 / song. I told her I only paid a flat fee. She said OK, what do you want. 30 minutes? I said, yeah. Things were looking good until I tried to tie her down on exactly what mileage I would receive before going back. Suddenly, she had to go to the restroom. It seems that the hottest couple of girls at Coli don't do extras. I'm going to try my luck at BT's from now on. Wound up having to go to Sunny Skies to get the job done.

I will be coming back to Detroit next week (woo hoo!) and am looking forward to some daytime fun. I have been to Bogarts, H8's, and Flight Club. I wasn't fond of H8's, except the sexiest bartender ever, and Flight Club was okay, but Bogarts was always a good time. I like my joints to be a little seedier casual. Just a personal preference.

I have RTFF so many times I think I know it by heart and really want to try out BT's. But with all great anticipation I am not wanting to be let down. I have a bad habit of sticking around a place too long, spending a little too much on drinks, dances, tips, etc. When I could just focus my allowance on one place and have a fantastic time. My question to you experts is this. Should I try BT's or stick to Bogies? I will be staying very near the both of them, which also helps.

I am putting my dilemma into your all's hands. Also, if there is another place any of you recommend in this vicinity that you all think I will enjoy, please feel free to let me know.

Help a visitor make the right choice. As always, I will share my exploits after my trip. Thanks in advance.

If it helps, I am really only looking for an "oral" exam, not a complete physical.

Here on forum or PM is fine.

[QUOTE=Moputter; 1424124]I will be coming back to Detroit next week (woo hoo!) and am looking forward to some daytime fun. I have been to Bogarts, H8's, and Flight Club. I wasn't fond of H8's, except the sexiest bartender ever, and Flight Club was okay, but Bogarts was always a good time. I like my joints to be a little seedier casual. Just a personal preference.

I have RTFF so many times I think I know it by heart and really want to try out BT's. But with all great anticipation I am not wanting to be let down. I have a bad habit of sticking around a place too long, spending a little too much on drinks, dances, tips, etc. When I could just focus my allowance on one place and have a fantastic time. My question to you experts is this. Should I try BT's or stick to Bogies? I will be staying very near the both of them, which also helps.

I am putting my dilemma into your all's hands. Also, if there is another place any of you recommend in this vicinity that you all think I will enjoy, please feel free to let me know.

Help a visitor make the right choice. As always, I will share my exploits after my trip. Thanks in advance.

If it helps, I am really only looking for an "oral" exam, not a complete physical.

Here on forum or PM is fine.[/QUOTE]My advice, go to bogarts. From what I hear of bt's the booth tax is outright thevery. Bogarts is only $10 and you can go in and out multiple times. The quality of girls are the same so go for what you know! I don't know if you can make it up to penthouse club on 8 mile but at least try it once!

I vote for BT's. The talent is too hit or miss at Bogarts. I was there last night and virtually every dancer had a fat gut. Two minutes after I walked in a hood type dude got chased out of the VIP area by a black dancer, who then had a loud argument with the manager. I have had great times at Bogarts but last night I finished my first beer and hit the road.

[QUOTE=Moputter; 1424124]I will be coming back to Detroit next week (woo hoo!) and am looking forward to some daytime fun. I have been to Bogarts, H8's, and Flight Club. I wasn't fond of H8's, except the sexiest bartender ever, and Flight Club was okay, but Bogarts was always a good time. I like my joints to be a little seedier casual. Just a personal preference.

I have RTFF so many times I think I know it by heart and really want to try out BT's. But with all great anticipation I am not wanting to be let down. I have a bad habit of sticking around a place too long, spending a little too much on drinks, dances, tips, etc. When I could just focus my allowance on one place and have a fantastic time. My question to you experts is this. Should I try BT's or stick to Bogies? I will be staying very near the both of them, which also helps.

I am putting my dilemma into your all's hands. Also, if there is another place any of you recommend in this vicinity that you all think I will enjoy, please feel free to let me know.

Help a visitor make the right choice. As always, I will share my exploits after my trip. Thanks in advance.

If it helps, I am really only looking for an "oral" exam, not a complete physical.

Here on forum or PM is fine.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Moputter; 1424124]I will be coming back to Detroit next week (woo hoo!) and am looking forward to some daytime fun. I have been to Bogarts, H8's, and Flight Club. I wasn't fond of H8's, except the sexiest bartender ever, and Flight Club was okay, but Bogarts was always a good time. I like my joints to be a little seedier casual. Just a personal preference.

I have RTFF so many times I think I know it by heart and really want to try out BT's. But with all great anticipation I am not wanting to be let down. I have a bad habit of sticking around a place too long, spending a little too much on drinks, dances, tips, etc. When I could just focus my allowance on one place and have a fantastic time. My question to you experts is this. Should I try BT's or stick to Bogies? I will be staying very near the both of them, which also helps.

I am putting my dilemma into your all's hands. Also, if there is another place any of you recommend in this vicinity that you all think I will enjoy, please feel free to let me know.

Help a visitor make the right choice. As always, I will share my exploits after my trip. Thanks in advance.

If it helps, I am really only looking for an "oral" exam, not a complete physical.

Here on forum or PM is fine.[/QUOTE]I disagree with Street a bit. I think the girls at BTs are generally better looking by an average of about a point. The biggest downsides to BTs are: a) all the taxes (valet, coat, VIP) and be) the music is too damn loud. The biggest downsides to Bogies are a) the waitresses hustle for drinks constantly and be) less privacy in the VIP area. Personally, I find the chances of uninterupted high mileage is better at BTs, and several of the taxes (other than VIP) can be avoided. If it's Tuesday I'd go to Bogies.

I posted reviews below for both bars. BT's is easily twice the size of Bogart's, and twice as nice, too. So with those two facts, you're going to inccur more taxes as mentioned below. Certainly the VIP is way more private and nicer at BT's. Music loudness is a matter of where you sit, as I have wanted the music louder at BT's when I sat near the Dressing Room.

I think you can get an oral exam pretty much at any club on Michigan avenue without much effort.

[QUOTE=Moputter; 1424124]I will be coming back to Detroit next week (woo hoo!) and am looking forward to some daytime fun. I have been to Bogarts, H8's, and Flight Club. I wasn't fond of H8's, except the sexiest bartender ever, and Flight Club was okay, but Bogarts was always a good time. I like my joints to be a little seedier casual. Just a personal preference.

I have RTFF so many times I think I know it by heart and really want to try out BT's. But with all great anticipation I am not wanting to be let down. I have a bad habit of sticking around a place too long, spending a little too much on drinks, dances, tips, etc. When I could just focus my allowance on one place and have a fantastic time. My question to you experts is this. Should I try BT's or stick to Bogies? I will be staying very near the both of them, which also helps.

I am putting my dilemma into your all's hands. Also, if there is another place any of you recommend in this vicinity that you all think I will enjoy, please feel free to let me know.

Help a visitor make the right choice. As always, I will share my exploits after my trip. Thanks in advance.

If it helps, I am really only looking for an "oral" exam, not a complete physical.

Here on forum or PM is fine.[/QUOTE]

I happen to enjoy both clubs. Depends on what you are looking for. Bogarts is seedy and dirty. The talent can be hit or miss with more of a miss type of atmosphere. The waitresses will constantly hassle you to buy more drinks. All in all it can be a good budget place to have some fun.

BT's on the other hand is much cleaner. They try to be a more upscale club and it does show. The place is well lit for a club and you don't feel like you are in a Mexican border town bar. The girls at BT's tend to be younger with tight bodies. Anything goes, and while you do pay a VIP tax every time you go to the back, the bouncer cleans up and leaves you to do as you please. Very pleasant atmosphere. If I had to make a comparison, I would say that BT's is the dirty little sister to the Penthouse club.

Stopped into this place for lunch yesterday. The place actually had a few good looking girls. Ended up going to the back with Russian named dancer. Good time. Half handy and half BJ with no up charge. Only down side to the place is that when you walk out of the door, you are facing a church. Woo hoo bible thumpers and boobies!

[QUOTE=SteveBlack;1424452]I think you can get an oral exam pretty much at any club on Michigan avenue without much effort.[/QUOTE]I'm inclined to agree, I was about to mention there was no extras at centerfolds but I remember a time where I was in there and I got a HJ for $ back in 01 or 02. The only reason I remember it because I was there when the wings were destroying colorado and the there was a round of drinks everytime they scored. Between that and a very nice girl had gave me some viragra that I wanted to try out on a SW. Of course after one hour I couldn't put the damn thing down so the dancer I was with just reached in and helped me out.

Of course what she didn't know I had just done a SW about 45 minutes earlier and judged the little blue pill a fake! I hope she washed her hands afterwards.

[QUOTE=SteveBlack; 1421099]Reviewed on: April 8, 2012.

Visited on: Tuesday Afternoon.

Dancers on Shift: 11-25.

Dancers

Value Atmosphere.

Overall.

This review covers two visits on consecutive days. *

While in town on business, I visited on a Tuesday for a late lunch. *Got valet parking, no cover charge. Was greeted by Janelle (waitress) and Juanita (shot girl) , who both remembered me from a previous visit. I sat at a booth and ordered the BOGO special on Bud Lite Lime. *

There was a bit of a dancer shortage until about 2pm. I would say about 4 girls before, and maybe 7-8 after. The talent level was quite low, though. *I think there was one Black. 1 multiracial Black, and the rest White. I would describe most in the 6-8 range, but 2 of the White girls had no business dancing. I seriously asked a dancer if those two girls were the House Moms. *When I first arrived, there appeared to be 5-6 other customers, but before too long, there would only be me and another small group. *

While I waited for my ATF, I did shots with J & J. We had a good time and I got introduced to the DJ, who played my two requests. After my ATF arrived, I had some fun and games with the girls, then went back for a half hour. Paid the $20 bouncer tax, and got to the main event. *Got the whole GFE, and finished completely satisfied. *

After freshening up and returning to my booth, did some more shots with J&J, plus my ATF. *However this party atmosphere attracted a few Klingons. I offered one a seat, her name was A. *A young, tan spinner with light brown hair. I would rate her a 7. *While drinking and hanging out at the booth, she kept getting closer and closer. Despite the fact that my ATF was sitting close and snuggling up, A* starts giving me a Canadian Handy J! *She also whispered into my ear about how much fun we could have in VIP. I had to decline because I had to go, but told her I would return the next day. *

I did return the following day at lunchtime *to meet up with a fellow TUSCL member. Janelle and my ATF were not working, but Juanita and Kristal Lynn (waitress) took care of me. *We all did shots, plus A* joined us. *

There were way more girls on Wednesday, at least 12, maybe 15. *Not all girls did stage shows, so it was hard to tell. The unattractive girls from the previous day were nowhere to be found, and the overall talent level was higher. I would say all 7 and 8s, with two 9s.

After partying for 30 minutes or so, A* and I went back for the main event. *Before heading back, I had negotiated $150 for a warm up dance, DFK, masturbation dance, DATY, CG, K9, BBBJ, and CIM lasting about 20-25 minutes. I said if I got everything, I would tip on top of that. She agreed to these terms. *

Once we started our dance she starts to show her amateur status. She says,"what's DFK?" I explain. *After that she says,"I've never done a masturbation dance, what do I do?" *Me: "Um, dance around and play with your pussy." *After half a song of this I ask her to turn around and do it. Immediately she says,"I hope you don't want to stick it in my butt, I tried it with a small guy, and it really hurt!" Well I just wanted to see her play with herself from behind. *

Okay after that I was ready to fuck, so I grab the condom and say,"let's do it." *I shit you not, she says,"so what's Cow Girl?" *OMFG! *I'm not into amateurs or newbies, and she talked such a good game before, I couldn't believe how much instruction I had to give her. *Anyway A* gets on top and fucks for like half a song, and is completely out of breath. *So she says,"let's switch to doggie so you can cum."*

We switch and I hit it for a song, and she keeps asking for it harder. So I hit it harder. Before the second song is up, she starts saying "you're hurting me", and rushing me to finish, saying we've been back here a long time. So she has us switch to a BJ, but informs me that he doesn't let guys come in her mouth. WTF? *Now I'm getting the bait and switch here. Her technique was way too gentle for a covered BJ, and I end up taking control myself for a chest finale. * I gave her money and asked,"do you remember what I said about a tip?". She did, but just wasn't used to going so long.

Now I understand that some guys don't go very long before finishing, but others will go much longer. I told her up front everything I wanted and how long it might be. * The fact of the matter is that she didn't deliver. *I love BT's, and will be returning, but no more VIP with A. She was a sweet girl, so I'm not throwing her name in this report. (PM me if you want it). But it was a waste of time considering the other available hotties.

I hit the restroom to cleanup, paid my tab, and left. *[/QUOTE]Any info or intel on Juanita the shot girl? I'd love to tap that!

[QUOTE=Oneknot;1424704]Stopped into this place for lunch yesterday. The place actually had a few good looking girls. Ended up going to the back with Russian named dancer. Good time. Half handy and half BJ with no up charge. Only down side to the place is that when you walk out of the door, you are facing a church. Woo hoo bible thumpers and boobies![/QUOTE]The bar was there first. Bar has been there since the early 70's if not earlier. They might even have been one of the.

Original occupants of that strip mall. The bible thumper church has been there about 7 or 8 years or so.

[QUOTE=Plumber2;1425129]I got a bbj from a slightly worn, Pam Anderson looking blonde at the centerfolds. They have an upstairs VIP. This was last summer I believe. I wouldn't consider it the norm though. Most girl there have been there a long time and belong to the "no extras" union.[/QUOTE]It was downstairs, it was way before they put up the walls there, now if you were at booby trap in its heyday then you can truly call yourself a senior member!

[QUOTE=Moputter; 1424124]I will be coming back to Detroit next week (woo hoo!) and am looking forward to some daytime fun. I have been to Bogarts, H8's, and Flight Club. I wasn't fond of H8's, except the sexiest bartender ever, and Flight Club was okay, but Bogarts was always a good time. I like my joints to be a little seedier casual. Just a personal preference.

I have RTFF so many times I think I know it by heart and really want to try out BT's. But with all great anticipation I am not wanting to be let down. I have a bad habit of sticking around a place too long, spending a little too much on drinks, dances, tips, etc. When I could just focus my allowance on one place and have a fantastic time. My question to you experts is this. Should I try BT's or stick to Bogies? I will be staying very near the both of them, which also helps.

I am putting my dilemma into your all's hands. Also, if there is another place any of you recommend in this vicinity that you all think I will enjoy, please feel free to let me know.

Help a visitor make the right choice. As always, I will share my exploits after my trip. Thanks in advance.

If it helps, I am really only looking for an "oral" exam, not a complete physical.

Here on forum or PM is fine.[/QUOTE]BT's by far. If you go during the day (before 6 I believe) you will avoid the booth tax. Park in the neighborhood and avoid the Valet tax, leave your coat in the car and avoid the coat check tax. More funds for fun. One other note, if you are temped to try a double, the VIP tax doubles. As others have pointed out, better talent and much better VIP at BTs. But the talent is trying hard to hold price on FS at $$ and BJ at $.5. You can negotiate it down and I urge you to do so.

Stay safe.

[QUOTE=Chubbybear; 1425894]BT's by far. If you go during the day (before 6 I believe) you will avoid the booth tax. Park in the neighborhood and avoid the Valet tax, leave your coat in the car and avoid the coat check tax. More funds for fun. One other note, if you are temped to try a double, the VIP tax doubles. As others have pointed out, better talent and much better VIP at BTs. But the talent is trying hard to hold price on FS at $$ and BJ at $.5. You can negotiate it down and I urge you to do so.

Stay safe.[/QUOTE]I always go to BT's before 6PM. But the problem the girls at BT's during daytime are really not that great, mostly in 6-7's. BT's during day time always has a crowd of guys who are good friends of the owners and the good looking girls spend time with them. I have also not met any body at BT's who do BBBJ with CIM and swallow.

The best time I have had recently has been in Coli's at around 7 pm. I had only around 30 minutes to spend. The club was not that crowded and girls were also not that drunk. Walked into the club, stood by the second bar where you can smoke. Then a good looking blonde, mid 20's in a short black dress walks over and I have small talk with her and then we go back. Had a very good BBBJ with CIM and Swallow for 100 and I walk out of the club. Total spent 120.

I appreciate all the feedback and please hit me up if you ever need reciprocal data in the Mo area (I would greatly advice so stay away, except for E. St Louis).

I shouldn't incur the VIP tax at BT's as I plan on being there during the day. I will possibly have a couple of days to play, so if I can stretch my funds out I will probably hit up both places. What I like about Bogarts is the dirty / seedy side of it. Not sure if VIP is still wide open, but having two girls slob on me in the wide open area was pretty thrilling. Also, even though the talent is less than what other clubs might have, I have been pretty lucky in my ventures there, as well as kept my VIP trips well under $ each time.

Again, thanks for all intel and I will report next week my trips to both places.

Stay safe.

Moputt

I have had plenty of extras at centerfolds. Personally I like the place. It is a very relaxed atmosphere and the girls / staff are nice to chat with. Most of the girls will not do extras however there are plenty of girls that are game for some fun upstairs. The only downside to upstairs is that the curtains don't completely blOck the view, and the DJ sometimes peeks in to watch the show.

[QUOTE=Chris Flasher; 1425976]I always go to BT's before 6PM. But the problem the girls at BT's during daytime are really not that great, mostly in 6-7's. BT's during day time always has a crowd of guys who are good friends of the owners and the good looking girls spend time with them. I have also not met any body at BT's who do BBBJ with CIM and swallow.

The best time I have had recently has been in Coli's at around 7 pm. I had only around 30 minutes to spend. The club was not that crowded and girls were also not that drunk. Walked into the club, stood by the second bar where you can smoke. Then a good looking blonde, mid 20's in a short black dress walks over and I have small talk with her and then we go back. Had a very good BBBJ with CIM and Swallow for 100 and I walk out of the club. Total spent 120.[/QUOTE]Levitra at BT's will give you what you're looking for. Either that, of I just got lucky. Day shift, tall, natural rack, brunette.

Can anyone confirm the bouncer tax issue? It's been a couple months, but last time I saw they guy collecting 20 per visit, even during days.

[QUOTE=Moputter; 1426076]I appreciate all the feedback and please hit me up if you ever need reciprocal data in the Mo area (I would greatly advice so stay away, except for E. St Louis).

I shouldn't incur the VIP tax at BT's as I plan on being there during the day. I will possibly have a couple of days to play, so if I can stretch my funds out I will probably hit up both places. What I like about Bogarts is the dirty / seedy side of it. Not sure if VIP is still wide open, but having two girls slob on me in the wide open area was pretty thrilling. Also, even though the talent is less than what other clubs might have, I have been pretty lucky in my ventures there, as well as kept my VIP trips well under $ each time.

Again, thanks for all intel and I will report next week my trips to both places.

Stay safe.

Moputt[/QUOTE]I just asked the gents of the forum to clarify the bouncer tax issue at BT's. Last time I was there (before Christmas) they were still collecting per visit.

Bogart's VIP is no longer all open. Individual booths have replaced the voyeur's paradise.

[QUOTE=JoesParty; 1426727]Levitra at BT's will give you what you're looking for. Either that, of I just got lucky. Day shift, tall, natural rack, brunette.

Can anyone confirm the bouncer tax issue? It's been a couple months, but last time I saw they guy collecting 20 per visit, even during days.[/QUOTE]I can confirm that the bouncer tax is still being applied. It costs $20 everytime you take a girl back into VIP. You take two girls, you pay $40. Suppossedly if you go back as a couple, you only get charged for the number of dancers, but I cannot confirm. This fee is for him to look the other way when you're getting xxxtras, and for him to clean the place up after and dump the trash "can".

The dancers still tip him $25 when they go off shift. So imagine how much tip money that guy leaves with each shift!

What fusk 7. 00 for a beer 7. 00 to park and no girls over a 5 Dam good way to go out of business or is this a right off for what ever.

Heading back to MI May 4 and 5. Does anyone know if BT's has a party planned for May 5? Made the mistake if being there March 16 when the place was dead because of a mandatory party on March 17. Don't want to make the same mistake.

Any info would be appreciated.

Tuesday afternoon.

- few clients. Decent number of dancers. Usual mix of so / so to very hot girls / ladies (no skanks seen)

- got to love the new "private dance" booths. Yahoo!

- very reasonable costs ($5 to get in, $10 for access to booths, multiple visits covered, and each girl has her own "rates") except $6. 75 for a Coors Lite is BS

- had a great time in a booth that "Debbie" ("mature" brunette (straight to mid-back) with nice (and real) DDs and decent legs, great skin, and easy to chat with. Almost GFE like)

- though the best tits in the place belonged to "Alyssia" (I may have this wrong). Tall slender late-20's brunette with perfect C's

Hello, looking for some help here. I like dancers that are over 35 years old and are not all covered in Tatto's. You know the kind of clean soccer mom look.

Thank you any help you can give.

Dawg

Stop in for a beer then ran into H. Something had a lot of good conversation then she went on stage dam she was hot after that I ask her forba deal and she settled (I have np idea were these girls get that $25. 00 A Dance0 any way went in back and got that no touching shit. (hell only wanted to fall in love for 15 minutes) any way second dance I could touch the pussy then the third dance it was spend the rest of your money dummy and just look at mynhot ass. I walk after three shestiil tried for the 25. 00 BS.

[QUOTE=DetDawg; 1428279]Hello, looking for some help here. I like dancers that are over 35 years old and are not all covered in Tatto's. You know the kind of clean soccer mom look.

Thank you any help you can give.

Dawg[/QUOTE]Day shift at most of the clubs in the metro area.

[QUOTE=DetDawg; 1428279]Hello, looking for some help here. I like dancers that are over 35 years old and are not all covered in Tatto's. You know the kind of clean soccer mom look.

Thank you any help you can give.

Dawg[/QUOTE]I guarantee you will find mostly soccer mom-style MILFS at Henry The VIII South. From what I've read, also Subi's Place.

Good luck!

H8S definitely has its share of milfs, I just don't know if I would call them soccer moms or consider then to be tattoo free.

[QUOTE=SteveBlack; 1429100]I guarantee you will find mostly soccer mom-style MILFS at Henry The VIII South. From what I've read, also Subi's Place.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

Partial report since I had to leave earlier than I anticipated. Went to Ace of Spades on Thursday around 10 pm. $20 cover for a special event with a fairly well known black porn star. She hadn't shown up by the time I had to leave at 11:45. Checked with a regular who confirmed that "anything goes" if you find the right girl. If your preference drifts towards black women, then this appears to be the place to be. The DJ called for "showtime" and there were so many sisters that they couldn't all fit on the stage. (I think every club should have showtime every hour on the hour.) There was one drop-dead caramel-colored 9 with an absolutely perfect body: 5'6" 120 lbs with just enough a$$ and titties. About four to five 8s and the rest were solid 6s and 7s. Black women in every size, shape, skin tone and personality type. Club was a bit raucous for my taste but the energy was good and the service was solid. I chatted up the 9 but didn't get any hint of extras so I let her keep on truckin'. Sadly, had to leave before I could get the scoop on any others. Will be back soon.

The day shift girls are the girls you want to see, the afternoon shift is hit or miss. Full service runs about $100. $150. Same rules apply here as any other strip club. Make the deal before you back to the FREE VIP. I was there Thursday from 4 to 7 pm but didn't see who I was looking for but there are plenty of options. The bathroom guy had "See Alice" for $15 a pop. You can smoke in the club too. The food is awesome.

Question: What's the demgraphic at this club. Both girls and customers? Would a white guy feel safe there? No disrespect, just curious before I make the trip.

[QUOTE=Weezon;1430721]The day shift girls are the girls you want to see, the afternoon shift is hit or miss. Full service runs about $100. $150. Same rules apply here as any other strip club. Make the deal before you back to the FREE VIP. I was there Thursday from 4 to 7 pm but didn't see who I was looking for but there are plenty of options. The bathroom guy had "See Alice" for $15 a pop. You can smoke in the club too. The food is awesome.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Weezon;1430721]The day shift girls are the girls you want to see, the afternoon shift is hit or miss. Full service runs about $100. $150. Same rules apply here as any other strip club. Make the deal before you back to the FREE VIP. I was there Thursday from 4 to 7 pm but didn't see who I was looking for but there are plenty of options. The bathroom guy had "See Alice" for $15 a pop. You can smoke in the club too. The food is awesome.[/QUOTE]Where's this place located? Black Club? Are whiteboys welcome? Any white girls? Thinkin' about takin' a tour, who do you recommend? Thanks, JackBB

Thanks Weezon for the additional 411.

As for the questions, the place is on 8 Mile west of Southfield. Again, I've only been there the one short time, but there was a fair number of white people there; a couple of them were older guys who seemed to be quite comfortable. There was a suburban caucasian couple there that seemed like they were out for an adventure. They received special attention from the dancers and it was cool to see her loosen up in the time that I was there. I didn't see any reasons for anyone to be concerned about safety on the grounds. I would suggest using the valet rather than parking in the neighborhood after dark if safety is a concern for you.