Massage Parlor Reports

I just met with Maria:

[url]http://tucson.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/pretty-latina-real-certified-massage-therapist-from-cortiva-i-know-how-to-please/22888804[/url]

Okay, before I say anything. You guys must think I am the biggest horndog. I've had a lot of reviews as of late. It's just been one of those months.

Anyway. To clarify some of the things written in other posts and to let you know what you get for your money:

1) Eighty Dollars is a topless massage. Very good quality.

She said that she usually gets 20 dollars tip for a good massage and if you feel she went above and beyond 40 dollars is a great tip. So guys, for $ you can get a topless massage that's also a pretty good massage with a HE. (I paid. 80 plus. 40 tip so $.20)

2) Touching is allowed.

3) Yes, HE is included.

4) Minimal extras. She will go fully nude and allow FIV (I think she said this) but the donation is higher. I was fine with topless so stayed there.

5) She likes to talk (if you're into that.) She has a very good personality. Many of these girls are burnt out or on drugs. She is neither.

6) Her breasts are okay. Not very big and a tiny bit droopy. She did rub them on my back a few times, but not the focus of her massage.

7) Alright. About her pictures. They are from a while ago, no doubt about it. She is in her mid twenties now and yes, she is heavier than the pictures show, BUT she is not as heavy as some people make you believe on here. Maybe it's just because I'm a heavy guy myself, but she isn't huge guys. Seriously.

8) You can talk to her about ANYTHING. I shared some of my crazy kinky fetishes with her and it didn't phase her at all.

Here's what happened during the massage:

She brought in her own table, put her own linens on it and then took off her shirt and bra. I was a little surprised by this, but glad at the same time! She told me to hop on the table so I took off my clothes and laid down. No draping.

She asked about pressure and all that stuff. And I told her about a couple of trouble spots. She took really good care of them. Massage quality was good and not uncomfortable at all. I actually really enjoyed talking with her. She told me she can be quiet as well and next time maybe that's what I'll be in the mood for, but this time I wanted to get to know her.

Important: She believes in giving you the FULL hour. Even if you release too early. She won't even have you flip until the hour's almost up. This is really important as you will note from a ton of reviews here, many girls rub you until you pop. And out the door you go. Even if it's only been 20 minutes and you paid for an hour. (This is why I won't visit Onyx again.)

So Mariah doesn't hound you for a tip either. If you want to tip, she'll take it, but don't feel obligated.

My only complaint would be that she spent a ton of time on my back (yes, I did have a problem there) but very little time on my legs. On the flip she zeroed in on one part. I missed having my chest rubbed and the front of my legs. This is my only complaint, but I'm sure if I shared that with her, the next time she'd be very happy to accommodate. I probably should have paid the 120 for 90 minutes, but was under a little time crunch. So this could have been my fault for chatting her up and asking her to focus on certain areas. Again, this was my only complaint and it was minor.

Finish was decent enough. I'm sure over time getting to know each other it will only improve. It wasn't mechanical, but it wasn't like Daisy's either.

Have your own towel handy for cleanup as she doesn't carry one.

Oh. Also Important: She will clean you up. Yes, you read that correctly. Not like Onyx who tosses the towel on you, she will clean you up when you finish. (Yes, it is with your own towel, but hey it's a nice touch.)

Mariah is all about service. She believes she is there to pamper you and treat you well. That's one of the reasons she feels she should be the one to do the clean up.

Okay, bottom line:

80 topless HE massage. Really good massage technique and not a robotic finish.

She brings her own table and linens.

Roaming hands allowed.

Great personality.

You can't go wrong here guys. As another poster wrote, she only sees 3 guys a day to keep herself enthusiastic and to keep herself from burning out and getting tired.

Don't hesitate to call. Out call only. But please, please please, treat her right. She is fun, great attitude, and I want her to stay around for awhile. I'll be seeing her 2-3 times a month. No more AMP's for me if I get lucky enough to get an appointment with her.

Enjoy all. With her, YMMV if you don't talk to her and treat her well, but she is so down to earth, I doubt it will vary much.

Also, read these reviews and please post your own. Support this community to keep each other (and the girls) safe. We need to be safe and we want the girls to be safe. Remember, do your due diligence and Google is your friend!

See you in the forums!

Lurker

[QUOTE=OldButNotDead;1847671]Kudos, bigtime. Your report is exactly what this site is supposed to be all about.[/QUOTE]Thanks OBND. I've always tried to write reviews which are helpful. I was on here about a year ago under a different name. I deleted my old account but my old reviews are still accessible (Member #4177 if you really want to know.) Got scared when there was mention of this board in a newspaper. So I created this 'Lurker' account and have just been reading all of your posts for the past year. But couldn't keep from posting myself!

So I'm back after some downtime. I feel that this is a community forum and we need to support one another. Good reports help us know who to support and who to avoid.

Thanks again OBND for the encouragement!

Lurker

[QUOTE=NewToThisWorld; 1849478]I have been seeing that Spanish has been offering ten or twenty bucks off with select girls almost everyday now. Is this enough for you guys to give it a go again? I ask because I have been to a couple of her current girls and while one that is still there was nice (never on the discount) as a whole I don't find the experience with the others to even live up to sky's usual. Velvet was probably the worst girl at Sky's and she is now at Spanish. You factor in the extra sixty and I am just not seeing the value proposition there.

Most of the girls are cute but this all seems way overpriced for the service. IMO VIP with them should be about

100 for the hour regularly maybe 120. What do the rest of you think do you have a favorite there that I'm just missing?[/QUOTE]I have never even tried them for exactly that reason. Could go elsewhere and get FS for only a few bucks more and my experience with regular playmates seemed more consistent, and much more intimate and enjoyable. Heard too many questionable reviews for apathetic services, girls making guys feel low, and just seemed too high a price for that gamble of not making a connection or getting a girl in burnout. Did not sound like each girl ever gave anywhere near the same service, or quality of service, for the price at all.

Why pay 80% of what I paid elsewhere for 50% of the service and intimacy. The extra money for cute but disinterested service, or girls who made you feel they were too good for you was certainly not worth even trying to me. Yeah, a couple guys made connections, and that happens. Good for them. Also seemed a better service early on, and deteriorated over time. Economy is getting worse and people are keeping money and only laying it out for services they are sure of. Call it quality control lacking for the value.

Essentially to me, the extra money was for the house, for multiple locations and overhead for the business model. I did not need a middle man when independent service providers were available. Just have to do your research to find your taste and interest. Heck. There are a several primo hot young ladies with FS for $20 bucks more. Poor consumer research to me.

[QUOTE=TucsonLurker; 1849554]I just met with Maria:

[url]http://tucson.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/pretty-latina-real-certified-massage-therapist-from-cortiva-i-know-how-to-please/22888804[/url]

Okay, before I say anything. You guys must think I am the biggest horndog. I've had a lot of reviews as of late. It's just been one of those months.

Anyway. To clarify some of the things written in other posts and to let you know what you get for your money:

1) Eighty Dollars is a topless massage. Very good quality.

She said that she usually gets 20 dollars tip for a good massage and if you feel she went above and beyond 40 dollars is a great tip. So guys, for $ you can get a topless massage that's also a pretty good massage with a HE. (I paid. 80 plus. 40 tip so $.20)

2) Touching is allowed.

3) Yes, HE is included.

4) Minimal extras. She will go fully nude and allow FIV (I think she said this) but the donation is higher. I was fine with topless so stayed there.

5) She likes to talk (if you're into that.) She has a very good personality. Many of these girls are burnt out or on drugs. She is neither.

6) Her breasts are okay. Not very big and a tiny bit droopy. She did rub them on my back a few times, but not the focus of her massage.

7) Alright. About her pictures. They are from a while ago, no doubt about it. She is in her mid twenties now and yes, she is heavier than the pictures show, BUT she is not as heavy as some people make you believe on here. Maybe it's just because I'm a heavy guy myself, but she isn't huge guys. Seriously.

8) You can talk to her about ANYTHING. I shared some of my crazy kinky fetishes with her and it didn't phase her at all.

Here's what happened during the massage:

She brought in her own table, put her own linens on it and then took off her shirt and bra. I was a little surprised by this, but glad at the same time! She told me to hop on the table so I took off my clothes and laid down. No draping.

She asked about pressure and all that stuff. And I told her about a couple of trouble spots. She took really good care of them. Massage quality was good and not uncomfortable at all. I actually really enjoyed talking with her. She told me she can be quiet as well and next time maybe that's what I'll be in the mood for, but this time I wanted to get to know her.

Important: She believes in giving you the FULL hour. Even if you release too early. She won't even have you flip until the hour's almost up. This is really important as you will note from a ton of reviews here, many girls rub you until you pop. And out the door you go. Even if it's only been 20 minutes and you paid for an hour. (This is why I won't visit Onyx again.)

So Mariah doesn't hound you for a tip either. If you want to tip, she'll take it, but don't feel obligated.

My only complaint would be that she spent a ton of time on my back (yes, I did have a problem there) but very little time on my legs. On the flip she zeroed in on one part. I missed having my chest rubbed and the front of my legs. This is my only complaint, but I'm sure if I shared that with her, the next time she'd be very happy to accommodate. I probably should have paid the 120 for 90 minutes, but was under a little time crunch. So this could have been my fault for chatting her up and asking her to focus on certain areas. Again, this was my only complaint and it was minor.

Finish was decent enough. I'm sure over time getting to know each other it will only improve. It wasn't mechanical, but it wasn't like Daisy's either.

Have your own towel handy for cleanup as she doesn't carry one.

Oh. Also Important: She will clean you up. Yes, you read that correctly. Not like Onyx who tosses the towel on you, she will clean you up when you finish. (Yes, it is with your own towel, but hey it's a nice touch.)

Mariah is all about service. She believes she is there to pamper you and treat you well. That's one of the reasons she feels she should be the one to do the clean up.

Okay, bottom line:

80 topless HE massage. Really good massage technique and not a robotic finish.

She brings her own table and linens.

Roaming hands allowed.

Great personality.

You can't go wrong here guys. As another poster wrote, she only sees 3 guys a day to keep herself enthusiastic and to keep herself from burning out and getting tired.

Don't hesitate to call. Out call only. But please, please please, treat her right. She is fun, great attitude, and I want her to stay around for awhile. I'll be seeing her 2-3 times a month. No more AMP's for me if I get lucky enough to get an appointment with her.

Enjoy all. With her, YMMV if you don't talk to her and treat her well, but she is so down to earth, I doubt it will vary much.

Also, read these reviews and please post your own. Support this community to keep each other (and the girls) safe. We need to be safe and we want the girls to be safe. Remember, do your due diligence and Google is your friend!

See you in the forums!

Lurker[/QUOTE]Good Job! Repeat of my prior post to the T. She stays consistent over time in her services and is a sweaty. I learned to keep a wet warm wash cloth in a bowl for clean up as you noted she does not bring a towel. I have done the 1. 5 hour. Your notes about too little on legs, and chest etc are correct as well and all you need to do is mention you want more time there. She has allowed and enjoy me lick and sucking her nice brown hard nipples as well during HE, but i asked her nicely and she enjoyed it. She really had to work to finish me and went over the time and never complained as she felt she needed to complete her job. Great release when we got there. But seriously, this is a backside massage, and expect her to get straight to the HE on the flip.

LOL. Damn. I just felt spoiled by a friendly girl. Easy to connect with. Just a sweet chatty young girl making a living and enjoying it. Treat her very well. One of the most relaxed intimate massages I have ever had. Not necessarily erotic. But damn nice, friendly, and comfortable and convenient in my home. I go out and meet her to help her bring her table in and out, but she has never asked for help. Oh. Aside from a tip. It is nice to give her a bottle of water as masseurs always dehydrate giving massage, it is work. I always have water for her to drink and a bottle to go.

[QUOTE=HardMan737; 1850303]I have never even tried them for exactly that reason. Could go elsewhere and get FS for only a few bucks more and my experience with regular playmates seemed more consistent, and much more intimate and enjoyable. Heard too many questionable reviews for apathetic services, girls making guys feel low, and just seemed too high a price for that gamble of not making a connection or getting a girl in burnout. Did not sound like each girl ever gave anywhere near the same service, or quality of service, for the price at all.

Why pay 80% of what I paid elsewhere for 50% of the service and intimacy. The extra money for cute but disinterested service, or girls who made you feel they were too good for you was certainly not worth even trying to me. Yeah, a couple guys made connections, and that happens. Good for them. Also seemed a better service early on, and deteriorated over time. Economy is getting worse and people are keeping money and only laying it out for services they are sure of. Call it quality control lacking for the value.

Essentially to me, the extra money was for the house, for multiple locations and overhead for the business model. I did not need a middle man when independent service providers were available. Just have to do your research to find your taste and interest. Heck. There are a several primo hot young ladies with FS for $20 bucks more. Poor consumer research to me.[/QUOTE]No doubt that the quality of service deteriorated over time as Spanish drifted away from the training of the new gals.

Okay, Mariah is now posting doing doubles.

In her "Mariah Only" post she looks like this: [url]http://tucson.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/pretty-latina-real-certified-massage-therapist-from-cortiva-i-know-how-to-please/22888804[/url]

Here is what she looks like for real: [url]http://tucson.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/double-the-pleasure-double-the-fun/24349633[/url]

Again, she's not bad, just truth in advertising.

Again, she is a gem! Worth calling. You won't be disappointed (unless you want FS, then you're out of luck!)

[QUOTE=HardMan737; 1850321]Good Job! Repeat of my prior post to the T. She stays consistent over time in her services and is a sweaty. I learned to keep a wet warm wash cloth in a bowl for clean up as you noted she does not bring a towel. I have done the 1. 5 hour. Your notes about too little on legs, and chest etc are correct as well and all you need to do is mention you want more time there. She has allowed and enjoy me lick and sucking her nice brown hard nipples as well during HE, but I asked her nicely and she enjoyed it. She really had to work to finish me and went over the time and never complained as she felt she needed to complete her job. Great release when we got there. But seriously, this is a backside massage, and expect her to get straight to the HE on the flip.

LOL. Damn. I just felt spoiled by a friendly girl. Easy to connect with. Just a sweet chatty young girl making a living and enjoying it. Treat her very well. One of the most relaxed intimate massages I have ever had. Not necessarily erotic. But damn nice, friendly, and comfortable and convenient in my home. I go out and meet her to help her bring her table in and out, but she has never asked for help. Oh. Aside from a tip. It is nice to give her a bottle of water as masseurs always dehydrate giving massage, it is work. I always have water for her to drink and a bottle to go.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://tucson.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/special-28hr-new-feeling/24261320[/url]

I daresay that place is legit. So as to hear it later that someplace is not legit blah blah blah. I asked TWICE for HE and did not receive.

[QUOTE=NewToThisWorld; 1849478]I have been seeing that Spanish has been offering ten or twenty bucks off with select girls almost everyday now. Is this enough for you guys to give it a go again? I ask because I have been to a couple of her current girls and while one that is still there was nice (never on the discount) as a whole I don't find the experience with the others to even live up to sky's usual. Velvet was probably the worst girl at Sky's and she is now at Spanish. You factor in the extra sixty and I am just not seeing the value proposition there.

Most of the girls are cute but this all seems way overpriced for the service. IMO VIP with them should be about 100 for the hour regularly maybe 120. What do the rest of you think do you have a favorite there that I'm just missing?[/QUOTE]So I have to retract the she doesn't discount the only girl I'm seen that before here that's worth going back to Jasmine 10 bucks off today. Not enough for me but she was pretty good overall at least compared to the normal over there now. I'd still go elsewhere for less money or see Daisy for the same.

Just saw former Spanish talent destiny is offering two for one anyone know who the second is?

[QUOTE=NewToThisWorld;1851389]Just saw former Spanish talent destiny is offering two for one anyone know who the second is?[/QUOTE]A newbie, she will send you a photo. Not an unattractive girl. Went yesterday and tried out the tandem not a bad time.

[QUOTE=Desert Dog;1851483]A newbie, she will send you a photo. Not an unattractive girl. Went yesterday and tried out the tandem not a bad time.[/QUOTE]What was the damage? Rumor has it that Destiny BBBJ is $.6 to $$. Outrageous. Now, two girls BBBJ for that, maybe.

[QUOTE=MrGoodTime;1851651]What was the damage? Rumor has it that Destiny BBBJ is $.6 to $$. Outrageous. Now, two girls BBBJ for that, maybe.[/QUOTE]Actually I wouldn't mind $60 for an hour massage with BBBJ ending better value than most of the rub and tugs that run that price for a HJ. I actually like the rub part of it just wish it were more reasonably price or offered oral for it.

[QUOTE=MrGoodTime;1851651]What was the damage? Rumor has it that Destiny BBBJ is $.6 to $$. Outrageous. Now, two girls BBBJ for that, maybe.[/QUOTE]Same standard training fees that you see out of these providers.

So it has been a weird day. I am too harsh it would seem in posts where I didn't get a great service or I thought prices were out of line with what I received for it. I guess I'm just going to hang it up for a while. I literally had three ladies message me today telling me all kinds of complaints about my reports which I really try to make fair. Just not worth the drama. Ill still lurk but ill be less posting for now. Anyone that wants info or to chat just message me ill still be around just not as active.

[QUOTE=NewToThisWorld;1852747]I guess I'm just going to hang it up for a while. I literally had three ladies message me today telling me all kinds of complaints about my reports which I really try to make fair. Just not worth the drama.[/QUOTE]Nah, keep posting dude. Forget about the complainers. Even if your reviews were harsh, and I don't think they have been, other members can search a gal's name and read all of the reviews on her to get the full picture. If the ladies messaging you had any ovaries, they would post publicly so we can call them on their bull. And guess what? If they had better service, you would have written better reviews for them, so they have only themselves to blame.

[QUOTE=NewToThisWorld;1852747]So it has been a weird day. I am too harsh it would seem in posts where I didn't get a great service or I thought prices were out of line with what I received for it. I guess I'm just going to hang it up for a while. I literally had three ladies message me today telling me all kinds of complaints about my reports which I really try to make fair. Just not worth the drama. Ill still lurk but ill be less posting for now. Anyone that wants info or to chat just message me ill still be around just not as active.[/QUOTE]I agree. Keep posting! This is the Angies's List of CSW. It keeps these hoes honest, and keeps the hobbyists safe, and prices down. Who likes being exploited for Golden Pussy? Fair's fair, a girl's got to eat. But so do I.

Dude, we're not here for the providers, we're here for the other hobbyists. Pleasing them or worrying about what they think should be the furthest thing from your mind when posting a review. As long as your reviews are honest and fair (and as far as I can tell they have been) then you don't have anything to worry about or regret.

Any woman who is offended about what you say wouldn't be offended unless she were in a situation to be. In other words, sounds like one of those "truth hurts" deals.

Just keep doing what you're doing. And, about these drama messages. There is a delete button. Use it and don't give those posts another thought.

[QUOTE=NewToThisWorld;1852747]So it has been a weird day. I am too harsh it would seem in posts where I didn't get a great service or I thought prices were out of line with what I received for it. I guess I'm just going to hang it up for a while. I literally had three ladies message me today telling me all kinds of complaints about my reports which I really try to make fair. Just not worth the drama. Ill still lurk but ill be less posting for now. Anyone that wants info or to chat just message me ill still be around just not as active.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mister Purple;1852896]Nah, keep posting dude. Forget about the complainers. Even if your reviews were harsh, and I don't think they have been, other members can search a gal's name and read all of the reviews on her to get the full picture. If the ladies messaging you had any ovaries, they would post publicly so we can call them on their bull. And guess what? If they had better service, you would have written better reviews for them, so they have only themselves to blame.[/QUOTE]I agree. Your views come from what you've experienced. Keep the posts coming.

This is a PM I just received from "bySpanish."

FYI.

Rich Prankster, LongJohn10 & MrGoodTime are all the same stupid dude that is black listed from seeing us. I have text proof that Rich Prankster & LongJohn10 are the same person arguing with himself in a post. Now that none of want to see him he started using his MrGoodTime account to bash us and get us out of the business. Why would someone need multiple active accounts to act like they are different people? He is nothing but drama just letting you know. If you read through his post you will see they are similar

Not sure if all of you got this or if just a few of us. Oh well.

Well, well .40 bucks off today for an hour and all girls.

[url]http://tucson.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/40-off-today-by-spanish-come-relax-with-tucsons-beautiful-girls-everyday-9am-10pm/17514976[/url]

That would be fairer for a HE with an hour rub. But still high compared to some AMPs. Add a BBBJ. 2, CFS another. 4 = $.8 total. OK, higher than I would pay, and see'mon, Alexia Dior, clearly a couple of levels up in looks and service is this price. This doesn't pass the laugh test By $$panish.

So By $$panish, keep going down. Down in prices I mean.

[QUOTE=MrGoodTime; 1853594]Well, well. 40 bucks off today for an hour and all girls.

[url]http://tucson.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/40-off-today-by-spanish-come-relax-with-tucsons-beautiful-girls-everyday-9am-10pm/17514976[/url]

That would be fairer for a HE with an hour rub. But still high compared to some AMPs. Add a BBBJ. 2, CFS another. 4 = $.8 total. OK, higher than I would pay, and see'mon, Alexia Dior, clearly a couple of levels up in looks and service is this price. This doesn't pass the laugh test By $$panish.

So By $$panish, keep going down. Down in prices I mean.[/QUOTE]Enough said. I will cease and desist. Just want good bang for the buck and that includes all providers. 'nuff said.

[QUOTE=TucsonLurker; 1853550]This is a PM I just received from "bySpanish."

FYI.

Rich Prankster, LongJohn10 & MrGoodTime are all the same stupid dude that is black listed from seeing us. I have text proof that Rich Prankster & LongJohn10 are the same person arguing with himself in a post. Now that none of want to see him he started using his MrGoodTime account to bash us and get us out of the business. Why would someone need multiple active accounts to act like they are different people? He is nothing but drama just letting you know. If you read through his post you will see they are similar

Not sure if all of you got this or if just a few of us. Oh well.[/QUOTE]

I'm not MrGoodTime, but his posts make me chuckle. MrGoodTime could be one of several people that she crossed (it's a long list). I wasn't blacklisted, I actually boycotted By $panish! I'm happy to share my side of the story with any senior member who asks what happened. In short, as of 3 months ago I am no longer $panish's client, spy, photographer, reviewer, or reputation management puppet BY CHOICE. I used to get 1/2 off any session in exchange for the help. Her business has tanked, not because of me but because the service quality has diminished, plain and simple.

I'm completely done with ma$$age$. I can get more for my money elsewhere.

I'm not an economics professor, but I have to believe that if Spanish spent more time gauging the market, getting the supply and demand curves to meet; giving the market what it wants at the prices it wants to pay, then it shouldn't really matter what a few people here say, right?

I don't see why she is getting so worked up. As I stated elsewhere, I believe we are a VERY small minority of the market. How else can one explain all these BP girls that advertise over and over and over again as nauseum and have almost no reviews (or in some cases, NO reviews)?

So, Spanish, if you're reading this, let it go and move on with your life. Even if every poster here boycotted you it probably wouldn't affect your bottom line in the slightest. Oh, and if it means anything to you, I haven't been to see you. Based on my readings, AMP's seem to offer an identical service at similar prices with greater convenience (ie: no multiple-call system) , and more extras are sometimes available at the AMP's.

[QUOTE=Rich Prankster; 1854043]I'm not MrGoodTime, but his posts make me chuckle. MrGoodTime could be one of several people that she crossed (it's a long list). I wasn't blacklisted, I actually boycotted By $panish! I'm happy to share my side of the story with any senior member who asks what happened. In short, as of 3 months ago I am no longer $panish's client, spy, photographer, reviewer, or reputation management puppet BY CHOICE. I used to get 1/2 off any session in exchange for the help. Her business has tanked, not because of me but because the service quality has diminished, plain and simple.

I'm completely done with ma$$age$. I can get more for my money elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

Or is it One life to live. Or general hospital NO MORE DRAMA. Its getting boring. How about telling us which AMPs are still in buis and which are the best now. Thanks.

Brush your teeth and wipe your ass girls.

I am disturbed by this current thread.

I have never been a customer of Spanish, or Sky.

I hold to favorite 3-4 BP ladies who offer much more for reasonable price, a couple older MP that are out of business whom I felt comfortable with, one newer independent masseur, and I have a couple SW's I have enjoyed as I explored differing worlds and learned the risks and pleasures of that more unusual world.

I did post that I thought both Spanish and Sky services were very pricey from the reports I read of price and consistency of service. YMMV. I have a FS provider from BP, who is gorgeous, friendly and offers FS GFE for $20 more than Spanish and Sky are supposed to be priced. Why would I bother? She even upgraded her body and works on improving her services.

So suddenly, my private mail is invaded by the namesake lady. A person I have no knowledge of and and no beef with, and she is pushing her issues into my private evening. And impugning a poster I have known to have credibility for a while.

On top of that, there is a post here from that supposedly credible poster, admitting he puffed up his reports for 1/2 off credits and service. Now I upset over his deceit as well, and he openly shares his deceit to fellow mongers as if he is wholly innocent and retains credibility after puffing up services for pay and not sharing that.

Lastly, I am trying to figure out why the board management has not:

1) stopped the assaulting posts from both parties and blocked and cut them.

2) allowed what looks like a mass derogatory private message into multiple personal boxes on a topic we are not even involved with.

Spanish, grow up and be a business person and explain that to your girls. Men will return when they are treated well and feel they got their money's worth. You are in public competition. Understand that you must compete in the market place and not attack future customers as you just did me. Never been a customer of your service or Skys. And I certainly never will be now. Why would I want your drama? Can get that for free from a wife whom I divorced.

Rich Prankser. I am upset as I was not aware, and do not recall (may be wrong here and just did not notice) you ever disclaiming or advising you got discounts for advertising Spanish service in here. I had appreciated your posts and comments in the past at times. BUT, To me that is a violation of all of the users in here alone, as you became effectively a shill and paid advertiser and no longer objective no matter what you claim now. Additionally, somehow you are involved in this messy pissing battle you bring into our homes as we read. Clearly your issues stimulated inappropriate behavior from an unstable woman business owner who is desperate. But, you to need to take your battle off this board and I would ask the moderators to remove any mreo of his posts on this topic or block them to keep this crap out ot the faces and inbox's of the un-involved.

Please take your pissing battle elsewhere and out of our personal in boxes. Moderators, please do your jobs. Mongers be aware of a deteriorating situation and be cautious. YMMV.

Thanks for everyone else listening, and helping support each others efforts.

HardMan,

You are obviously an intelligent and articulate man. So I say with all due respect that I didn't see where Rich Prankster acknowledged deception or embellishments in any of his past reports on the Spanish posse.

Rich Prankster,

1. Love your moniker.

2. Good job, getting half-priced services. Half-way to my favorite price, free.

3. I'm still regularly enjoying fabulous, intimate $1 / hr massage experiences with several reliable, sweet and gorgeous local masseuses. Really nice times. I'm just sayin'.

Wow, both providers and lurkers can be very passionate. Guys, I have been on this site for a couple of years mostly to get the plethera of information. Thank you for all the good, bad, and indifferent. I love the fact that some of us take mongering serious. I am not a rich man so, my hobbying is done after months of saving and scrimping. I will say this! Some or most of these ladies make way more than the average Joe in the oldest profession in the world. We can all agree that a half ass massage and a rub and tug is not worth the price some are charging. AMPs are great but have been dwindled in quality mostly due to LE pressure. Daisy, Sky and some others make their money. I have even seen Daisy come out of the casino dolled up with a female friend, so if she can make enough for casino outings they are living pretty good (I did blush and feel I was amongst a celebrity LOL). We may be at the point in time where we are tired of over pricing and half assed work done from some of our lazy / non caring providers. I have seen a post some time back in which someone said,"I just wish I can get what I paid for". I think we can all agree with that. Well, the discounts we are seeing are just a start of the revolution. I personally, will not pay for an escort, too much damn money for some kitty and this is tucson, a small little city not vegas. Providers need to start understanding that. I will be boycotting as well! Stop putting the pussy on a pedestal and bring the reasonable rates back for non FS providers and providers start taking care of your customers. YMMV

I checked Spanish site looks like she has 2 less girls. Think its Ruby and Michelle, they were no pics or even their names listed on their schedule. Any info?

So will be in Tucson in a couple of weeks. Had a great TN experience about 13 months ago but read something about Uncle LEO spending a lot of time around there. Can anybody confirm or deny and give any other updates? I saw Carol my last visit.

[QUOTE=On Thin Ice; 1854813]HardMan,

You are obviously an intelligent and articulate man. So I say with all due respect that I didn't see where Rich Prankster acknowledged deception or embellishments in any of his past reports on the Spanish posse.[/QUOTE]Umm, he said it verbatim. It's the following line.

[QUOTE=Rich Prankster]In short, as of 3 months ago I am no longer $panish's client, spy, photographer, reviewer, or reputation management puppet BY CHOICE. I used to get 1/2 off any session in exchange for the help.[/QUOTE]He said it out loud. I agree with HardMan; and I also do not appreciate the deception. He has admitted to violating the rules of this board, and in doing so has created a world of drama.

Stopped by an AMP a couple days ago. Located SE corner of orange grove and oracle.

[url]http://tucson.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/n-e-w-s-t-a-f-f-under-new-management-visit-today/23842486[/url]

This place was very difficult to find, as it is tucked away in a corner. Was greeted by an older woman, must have been late 40, or early 50's: on a scale of 1-10, she was a 2. She appeared to be the only one working that day. She asked for the $40 (half-hour) through the window before letting me into the hallway with the rooms. Once I entered a room, she told me,"wait 5 minutes". With her saying this, I knew I just interrupted someone else's session and that my service would be marginal at best. I told her I would come back, and she responded with,"okay, wait 2 minutes." I agreed.

After 3 minutes, she comes in and the massage starts (no oil). After a couple light strokes, she immediately begins teasing the boys. In less than 3 minutes, she says "turn over." She asks if a HE is okay. I respond by asking for a CBJ. At first she shakes her head, indicating "no". Then she says "how much." I respond with. 80. She says $. After I say no and get up to leave, she agrees to. 80, but says "next time $".

After asking for the money up front by handing me my pants, I get the saran wrap treatment. CBJ was marginal at best, and only lasted 2 minutes. She then finishes me off with HE. Afterwards, she gets a hot towel and cleans me up.

I get dressed and hurry out.

I heard others have had good experiences, but I wouldn't repeat.

[QUOTE=Mbator6993; 1855929]Umm, he said it verbatim. It's the following line.

He said it out loud. I agree with HardMan; and I also do not appreciate the deception. He has admitted to violating the rules of this board, and in doing so has created a world of drama.[/QUOTE]Don't be too harsh on Rich Prankster. All or most have told a provider that, after good or great service, they would post a good report.

USASG is the Angie's list of CSW. I'm glad for it. It drives out bad service, rewards the good, and I've avoided A LOT of bad or potentially dangerous situations. These days that's virtually all of them.

MGT

[QUOTE=MrGoodTime; 1856058]Don't be too harsh on Rich Prankster. All or most have told a provider that, after good or great service, they would post a good report.

USASG is the Angie's list of CSW. I'm glad for it. It drives out bad service, rewards the good, and I've avoided A LOT of bad or potentially dangerous situations. These days that's virtually all of them.

MGT[/QUOTE]Hey. I an understand Rich Prankster getting tight with girls. Human nature if he can get over. BUT, he acknowledged he was tight and a "spy", and reporting. Suddenly he turns on them, which suggests to me his prior reports were complete hogwash, and Public Relations postings to aid her business. At that point I lose trust in objectivity of service he receives and raves about, when I read others with marginal service and satisfaction repeatedly from the same provider. Whatever, for me credibility was completely lost, which is why I have valued this board in the past.

What I was really pissed about though, was the invasion of privacy from the provider, and the drama pushed into my mail box, when I have NEVER been a customer. I have never even posted about them until this little drama as I had no experience to write about. Now THAT invasion was some real BS! Owed me an apology for draggin me into her drama and crap, and everyone else. Says a lot about the customer perspective when she has made no apology on here or to those whose privacy she invaded.

Again, the provider lost any and all credibility. Why would I go near ANY of her girls, if she leads them like that. Understand why discounts are being given with that approach to business. Keep the crap in your own backyard, and out of mine.

Still upset the moderators allowed it at all, and certainly never appeared to react or respond to it to this day. Would have liked to have heard something, or a warning from them posted on here that that behavior is not tolerated, or that they have addressed the BS, or something. Unless they too are wrapped up in her little drama world as well.

Hey I just moved here from Houston and I was wondering of any of you visited the new AMP on Ina? I wanted to go but I wanted to check here first, if so let me know. This the CL ad [url]http://tucson.craigslist.org/thp/4029223370.html[/url]

[QUOTE=MLaird23; 1859475]Hey I just moved here from Houston and I was wondering of any of you visited the new AMP on Ina? I wanted to go but I wanted to check here first, if so let me know. This the CL ad.

[url]http://tucson.craigslist.org/thp/4029223370.html[/url][/QUOTE]From what I have read on this forum, this place is legit. Haven't tried it yet. I prefer to visit places that have been discussed positively on this forum.

Breno