Nuru Shops and Independents

[QUOTE=McNutties;7485596]Have done plenty of legit massages and no so legit massages in my day. Your post is interesting to me.

Maybe she was spooked if you were acting nervous.

How was the spa itself? Legit spots generally have products for sale and other stuff where fun spas have next to nothing.

When you got undressed did you just lay on top of the bed exposed? All legit spots make it clear you get under the sheet. All fun places these is usually the tiniest of towels there that won't cover shit.

Did she make any contact with you with her body? You figure if more was on the table she would have grazed your goodies or pressed her leg, thigh, tits on you.[/QUOTE]Have definitely done my fair share of both legit and very non-legit massages too haha. I'd say I'm a veteran at both. I think this is a spot where they have beautiful girls and kind of allow you to think there might be more but there definitely isn't. As to the location it's located in a building with other medical offices and general offices. A lot like the lake forest nuru spots. Nothing else for sale. But to be fair my favorite FS spots have a display of medical creams, etc on "sale" to give the illusion of legitimacy.

I was as calm as could be. Her nervousness made me think that maybe there's more that happens there and I said I'd never been there maybe she thought I was LE. I dunno though, was hoping anyone else had insight. I likely won't try again unless I just want a legit massage and nothing else (which is rare for me). If anyone else goes, let us know.

One tip as well, they seem screen phone numbers (another reason why it seems maybe there's more going on) because they mentioned they didn't have my number in the system when I text them. I'd definitely say I'd been there many times before and just change my number frequently or something next time.

[QUOTE=TylerWayne;7486514]Have definitely done my fair share of both legit and very non-legit massages too haha. I'd say I'm a veteran at both. I think this is a spot where they have beautiful girls and kind of allow you to think there might be more but there definitely isn't. As to the location it's located in a building with other medical offices and general offices. A lot like the lake forest nuru spots. Nothing else for sale. But to be fair my favorite FS spots have a display of medical creams, etc on "sale" to give the illusion of legitimacy.[/QUOTE]I've seen their ad for multiple different girls but the phone number changes often as well. I personally believe they have their front desk person filter the texts and does all the booking. I've been to the same provider a couple of times now and both times no flip. So I doubt there is any more to be had.

[QUOTE=TylerWayne;7484473]I've seen this place on massage finder for awhile [URL]https://www.massagefinder.com/massage-therapists/51214/[/URL] name "Viv".

Figured I'd give it a try. Provider Hazel was available [URL]https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/hws/d/lake-forest-full-body-swedish-massage/7905278908.html[/URL] it's 100% the girl in the picture. Pretty hot. I got excited because of her looks and wasn't thinking when she asked "is this your first time here?" And my dumb ass said "yeah!" And immediately regretted it. We all know you never say it's your first time <facepalm . She seemed extremely nervous the rest of the time. Massage was done fully covered with the sheet. Tried all the tricks of spreading the legs (was damn near doing the splits by the end hahaha), raising the ass as she went up the thigh, "mmm that feels really good" as she was on the ass / inner thigh, trying to touch her legs lightly as she was near my hand. Zero luck. Didn't even get a flip. At most legit places you still flip and get some chest, head etc. She just ended at the calves and bounced out of the room..[/QUOTE]The post of Hazel on Craigslist is gone. Do you happen to have a link to another post that she has on another website? Very curious now what she looks like or the name of the spa she works at.

[QUOTE=TylerWayne;7486514]Have definitely done my fair share of both legit and very non-legit massages too haha. I'd say I'm a veteran at both. I think this is a spot where they have beautiful girls and kind of allow you to think there might be more but there definitely isn't. As to the location it's located in a building with other medical offices and general offices. A lot like the lake forest nuru spots. Nothing else for sale. But to be fair my favorite FS spots have a display of medical creams, etc on "sale" to give the illusion of legitimacy.

I was as calm as could be. Her nervousness made me think that maybe there's more that happens there and I said I'd never been there maybe she thought I was LE. I dunno though, was hoping anyone else had insight. I likely won't try again unless I just want a legit massage and nothing else (which is rare for me). If anyone else goes, let us know.

One tip as well, they seem screen phone numbers (another reason why it seems maybe there's more going on) because they mentioned they didn't have my number in the system when I text them. I'd definitely say I'd been there many times before and just change my number frequently or something next time.[/QUOTE]Location is off el toro right. If so it's knotless touch. Don't bother, bait and switch, heavily edited photos, no extras.

I know this is the OC sub but if I ask this on other location / subs they won't know these places. Anything like ROM or Haven near the San Fernando Valley or LA (in terms of how nice the place is, type of service, showers, etc.)? All the places I've ever seen where dirty shitty parlors.

No review for Tokyo but wondering if anyone has her IG or knows where she went, how I can book with her?

As for Kiana. Filipino ABG type. Mid 20's with a pretty face, great smile, rockin fit slim petite body with man made full Cs. She's born and raised here so no problem communicating and she's pleasant to carry a convo with.

Massage was basic and there was heavy upsell. She quoted me 50 to feed on the melons and another 50 to pet the kitty. She also said she doesn't do FS.

The looks are definitely there which is usually enough for me but everything was very mechanical.

I only found one post saying they didn't like Olivia but without much details. Anyone seen any of these and get give some more details?

[QUOTE=Gusto069;7492863]No review for Tokyo but wondering if anyone has her IG or knows where she went, how I can book with her?

As for Kiana. Filipino ABG type. Mid 20's with a pretty face, great smile, rockin fit slim petite body with man made full Cs. She's born and raised here so no problem communicating and she's pleasant to carry a convo with.

Massage was basic and there was heavy upsell. She quoted me 50 to feed on the melons and another 50 to pet the kitty. She also said she doesn't do FS.

The looks are definitely there which is usually enough for me but everything was very mechanical.[/QUOTE]Description sounds absolutely great but 50 extra to feed on the melons is just crazy when there's providers who let you do that without any extra upcharge at all, those are the ones that end up being worth it in my opinion.

I enjoyed my time with Kiana and thought she was very beautiful / sexy (face and body); she didn't upsell me on anything but I didn't really request any extras either so that could be the reason. In general, what I found that works best for me when it comes to providers (in regards to upselling), is first time or even first two times I meet with them I don't ask for anything extras and just focus on enjoying what is offered by default and building rapport. If / when I meet someone I really like, I try to book a second or even third appt with her ASAP so she remembers me and we establish a good vibe; I noticed that if I do that, form that point onward, some simple gestures or things I like and request usually won't involve upselling (though obviously, FS etc are always extra). If you ask how much is this and that on the first time you meet them when they don't know you, sometimes they'll markup every little thing. If you are a regular at a particular place, the long game is worth it and I was able to establish a really nice vibe where I get most of what I'm looking for from 4-5 regulars I rotate between.

[QUOTE=Gusto069;7492863]No review for Tokyo but wondering if anyone has her IG or knows where she went, how I can book with her?

As for Kiana. Filipino ABG type. Mid 20's with a pretty face, great smile, rockin fit slim petite body with man made full Cs. She's born and raised here so no problem communicating and she's pleasant to carry a convo with.

Massage was basic and there was heavy upsell. She quoted me 50 to feed on the melons and another 50 to pet the kitty. She also said she doesn't do FS.

The looks are definitely there which is usually enough for me but everything was very mechanical.[/QUOTE]

ROM.

Milan: late 20's to 30's asian. Petite, slim thick, curvy with well made implants. Face is pretty when she decided to put on the heavy makeup. Talks a lot. Service is average. One of those who doesn't take off panties. Offers extras. Repeatable.

Sayuri: early 30's asian, japanese from brazil (seems to tell everyone that). Petite, very curvy. Face is pretty enough. Best service. The only one who does real body to body. Repeatable.

Charlie: late 20's asian. Also petite, slim but not really fit. Not much effort put into appearance that day. Kind of forgettable.

Ella: kind of forgettable like Charlie.

Apple: late 20's to 30's asian. Very short, slim, big implants. Kind of a RBF. I'd say that she's like Charlie's older sister who put on some makeup and got implants.

Jasmine: late 20's to 30's latina. Petite, slim thick and athletic (abs, upper body V shape). Face is pretty enough. Hard implants and probably fake ass. Ass is amazing though. I think it would look great in doggy but she didn't offer FS. Talks a lot.

April: early 30's asian. Slim, pretty, with nice tits (can't remember if she has implants). Repeatable.

Aria: saw in hallway. 20's latina, blonde hair. Very short, curvy, and pretty.

[URL]https://knotlesstouch.com/listing/nessa/[/URL]

Has anyone seen Nessa? I remember she had a listing on MF a while back but it seems like it's gone. Not sure if anyone has talked about her before but I'm curious if she offers any kinds of extras.

[QUOTE=MyFinalHeav3;7507082]ROM.

Milan: late 20's to 30's asian. Petite, slim thick, curvy with well made implants. Face is pretty when she decided to put on the heavy makeup. Talks a lot. Service is average. One of those who doesn't take off panties. Offers extras. Repeatable.

Sayuri: early 30's asian, japanese from brazil (seems to tell everyone that). Petite, very curvy. Face is pretty enough. Best service. The only one who does real body to body. Repeatable.

Charlie: late 20's asian. Also petite, slim but not really fit. Not much effort put into appearance that day. Kind of forgettable.

Ella: kind of forgettable like Charlie.

Apple: late 20's to 30's asian. Very short, slim, big implants. Kind of a RBF. I'd say that she's like Charlie's older sister who put on some makeup and got implants.

Jasmine: late 20's to 30's latina. Petite, slim thick and athletic (abs, upper body V shape). Face is pretty enough. Hard implants and probably fake ass. Ass is amazing though. I think it would look great in doggy but she didn't offer FS. Talks a lot.

April: early 30's asian. Slim, pretty, with nice tits (can't remember if she has implants). Repeatable.

Aria: saw in hallway. 20's latina, blonde hair. Very short, curvy, and pretty.[/QUOTE]Really good intel appreciate it, you've been making your way through the list seems like it's very hit or miss over at ROM with new girls but personally once you find a few favorites, it's hard to stop going. Who was your favorite out of the bunch? Thinking about trying Sayuri or Aria next, my rotation is currently 3 or 4 girls and I'd say they're all hot and provide the type of service I enjoy. For the prices that are being charged I don't think there's any excuse for lackluster service or not giving us that playful or exciting energy during sessions.

[QUOTE=SoCalMas;7507809][URL]https://knotlesstouch.com/listing/nessa/[/URL]

Has anyone seen Nessa? I remember she had a listing on MF a while back but it seems like it's gone. Not sure if anyone has talked about her before but I'm curious if she offers any kinds of extras.[/QUOTE]No, I haven't seen Nessa. However, I came across Soraya. Wow, Wow, Wow. Exactly who I'd like to see.

[URL]https://knotlesstouch.com/listing/soroya/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MyFinalHeav3;7507082]ROM.

Milan: late 20's to 30's asian. Petite, slim thick, curvy with well made implants. Face is pretty when she decided to put on the heavy makeup. Talks a lot. Service is average. One of those who doesn't take off panties. Offers extras. Repeatable.

Sayuri: early 30's asian, japanese from brazil (seems to tell everyone that). Petite, very curvy. Face is pretty enough. Best service. The only one who does real body to body. Repeatable.

Charlie: late 20's asian. Also petite, slim but not really fit. Not much effort put into appearance that day. Kind of forgettable.

Ella: kind of forgettable like Charlie.

Apple: late 20's to 30's asian. Very short, slim, big implants. Kind of a RBF. I'd say that she's like Charlie's older sister who put on some makeup and got implants.

Jasmine: late 20's to 30's latina. Petite, slim thick and athletic (abs, upper body V shape). Face is pretty enough. Hard implants and probably fake ass. Ass is amazing though. I think it would look great in doggy but she didn't offer FS. Talks a lot.

April: early 30's asian. Slim, pretty, with nice tits (can't remember if she has implants). Repeatable.

Aria: saw in hallway. 20's latina, blonde hair. Very short, curvy, and pretty.[/QUOTE]Some quick comments. I've repeated with Charlie, Ella, and Milan (ATF). Charlie is a mid 20's viet cutie. I think she's pretty sensual but for sure no FS. Ella in mid 20's viet. Great body, face OK but I liked her and worth checking out. I thought April and Apple were OK but no repeat for me. I saw Aria in the hallway as well. She looked cute but based in quick look didn't feel an immediate need to book. But I'd like it check her out at some point.

[QUOTE=OCanon;7509395]Some quick comments. I've repeated with Charlie, Ella, and Milan (ATF). Charlie is a mid 20's viet cutie. I think she's pretty sensual but for sure no FS. Ella in mid 20's viet. Great body, face OK but I liked her and worth checking out. I thought April and Apple were OK but no repeat for me. I saw Aria in the hallway as well. She looked cute but based in quick look didn't feel an immediate need to book. But I'd like it check her out at some point.[/QUOTE]Charlie offered FS for me the first time I saw her and the second, the only times I ever saw her so more of a YMMV situation. She is cute, but I have opted in for extras before and usually just disappointed or feel guilty so not worth it for me personally.

[QUOTE=OhheYandy;7510926]Charlie offered FS for me the first time I saw her and the second, the only times I ever saw her so more of a YMMV situation. She is cute, but I have opted in for extras before and usually just disappointed or feel guilty so not worth it for me personally.[/QUOTE]Was it a reasonable price? And what was disappointing about it? I think she's pretty hot and was on my repeat but never gotten FS. Sadly probably not her vibe so I've been skipping on her.

[QUOTE=MyFinalHeav3;7507082]ROM.

Milan: late 20's to 30's asian. Petite, slim thick, curvy with well made implants. Face is pretty when she decided to put on the heavy makeup. Talks a lot. Service is average. One of those who doesn't take off panties. Offers extras. Repeatable.

Sayuri: early 30's asian, japanese from brazil (seems to tell everyone that). Petite, very curvy. Face is pretty enough. Best service. The only one who does real body to body. Repeatable.

Charlie: late 20's asian. Also petite, slim but not really fit. Not much effort put into appearance that day. Kind of forgettable.

Ella: kind of forgettable like Charlie.

Apple: late 20's to 30's asian. Very short, slim, big implants. Kind of a RBF. I'd say that she's like Charlie's older sister who put on some makeup and got implants.

Jasmine: late 20's to 30's latina. Petite, slim thick and athletic (abs, upper body V shape). Face is pretty enough. Hard implants and probably fake ass. Ass is amazing though. I think it would look great in doggy but she didn't offer FS. Talks a lot..[/QUOTE]Agree with Milan. Also my atf.

Sayuri I haven't tried yet but will soon.

Charlie might've caught her on an off day, I like her about in par with Milan. Depends on what I'm feeling that day. Milan's for when I need a dirty baddie and Charlie's for when I want a submissive gnd.

Ella was actually kind of forgettable. I think she asked me for too much and that soured the whole experience. One and done for me.

April I found to be pretty attractive face but service was cold several times in a row. Naturals from what I remember but maybe someone correct that.

Apple haven't tried.

Went to OC Wellness a few weeks ago (aka OC Angels, aka, Angels, aka Golden Touch, aka Golden Angels; aka who knows next- they keep changing their names and IG on a weekly basis LOL. Thought I'd check it out again (been there a couple of times a while ago, before they closed and re-opened).

The good: The place is just beautiful. Very clean; looks like a high-end spa, with showers and all- such a wasted potential (more on that below). Their Telegram and IG posts show real pics, unlike all other places, so what you see is kinda what you get in terms of looks, minus the face (which they cover). Super easy booking, no screening whatsoever (which, as I'm typing here as a pro, I realize might actually be a con, LOL).

The bed: Based on the pics, I picked Vanessa, which I thought had a great body. I asked if she's available at a specific time for 45 m, they said yes. I walked in, paid the door fee, gave 100, they had no change and told me she'll give me the change when I'm in the room. I'm ready in the room; 5 m. 10 m. 15 m. Was just about to get up and leave - 20 m late walks in Vanessa. Body is not bad, maybe an 8, but face is max a 5 ([URL]https://www.instagram.com/vanes.sangels/[/URL]).

No apology for being late, no smile, no small talk; straight up: "What do you want? I ask, what do you mean what do I want? She says: "you want just Nuru or FS?" I said, how much is it? She say 400 for just the Nuru. I didn't even bother to ask about the FS, LOL. I smiled and said "no way; I have paid 150-180 in the past, there and in other spas (on top of the door fee). She said, "we'll if you don't want, I can check if anyone else is available. " I said ok. 5 m. 10 m. 15 m. Was ready to leave again just when Genesis walks in ([URL]https://www.instagram.com/genesisrey72/[/URL]). On their Telegram / IG her body looks somewhat doable; not one that I'd pick but the sunk-cost fallacy took over my dick and brain. I waited 40 m already, I might as well just see if it's worth it.

Same routine. No smile, not how are you; straight to business; 300 for Nuru. I was like, "Ah. No". She asks, how much? We agree on 200. No idea why I agreed. OC Wellness is a cash first kinda place (unline ROM or 17 SA, where you pay after) so after you paid, it's a lottery really. She doesn't even bother to take off her shirt, just raise it above her tits, when I see these totally botched tits that might look like D's with a push-up bra and cloths, but a war-zone without. She proceeds to rub her tits on my back while standing next to me side-ways in a very awkward way. To call that 'Nuru' would be like calling a local neighborhood kids park. Disneyland. Anyhow. I tried. I really did. Even closed my eyes so I can imagine one of my ATF porn actress and decided since she's not going to do anything, I'll just do it myself. But my buddy just refused to play along. I asked her to say a few things that I know will turn me on (nothing too kinky, I swear), she goes "no". 10 m into it, she's asking in tone of voice that suggest she's annoyed: "are you going to finish?" that killed it completely. I said "We're only 10 m into a 45 m session, are you in a rush?" She just won't stop hurrying. Finally I somehow managed to pull it off, no idea how. Reminded her about the door fee change, she gave me that look of "what are you talking about". She was so ugly, I just didn't even want to argue, just left.

Oh boy; As I said. Such a wasted potential since the place itself is so nice. Side-note. Their girls tend to be on the thick side. I have nothing against bbl or manmade DD with some nice curves, but I can't do overweight or bad boob-job.

If you had a different experience with any of the other girls there and can recommend specific ones that look at leasr 7-and-up, and do not charge an arm and a leg for actual OC-style Nuru (not even expecting the real Japanese Nuru anywhere in OC / LA, LOL), please do share. Otherwise, this place is not for me. Plus I hate negotiating. I'll just stick with places like ROM, Heaven or SA 17, where prices are somewhat fixed (not all, but the range is somewhat similar and makes sense) and you know what you're getting in terms of prices and some consistency (again, not with all girls) but they seem to be better managed in that regard.

[QUOTE=DoubleDave04;7514393]Went to OC Wellness a few weeks ago (aka OC Angels, aka, Angels, aka Golden Touch, aka Golden Angels; aka who knows next- they keep changing their names and IG on a weekly basis LOL. Thought I'd check it out again (been there a couple of times a while ago, before they closed and re-opened).

The good: The place is just beautiful. Very clean; looks like a high-end spa, with showers and all- such a wasted potential (more on that below). Their Telegram and IG posts show real pics, unlike all other places, so what you see is kinda what you get in terms of looks, minus the face (which they cover). Super easy booking, no screening whatsoever (which, as I'm typing here as a pro, I realize might actually be a con, LOL).

The bed: Based on the pics, I picked Vanessa, which I thought had a great body. I asked if she's available at a specific time for 45 m, they said yes. I walked in, paid the door fee, gave 100, they had no change and told me she'll give me the change when I'm in the room. I'm ready in the room; 5 m. 10 m. 15 m. Was just about to get up and leave - 20 m late walks in Vanessa. Body is not bad, maybe an 8, but face is max a 5 ([URL]https://www.instagram.com/vanes.sangels/[/URL]).

No apology for being late, no smile, no small talk; straight up: "What do you want? I ask, what do you mean what do I want? She says: "you want just Nuru or FS?" I said, how much is it? She say 400 for just the Nuru. I didn't even bother to ask about the FS, LOL. I smiled and said "no way; I have paid 150-180 in the past, there and in other spas (on top of the door fee). She said, "we'll if you don't want, I can check if anyone else is available. " I said ok. 5 m. 10 m. 15 m. Was ready to leave again just when Genesis walks in ([URL]https://www.instagram.com/genesisrey72/[/URL]). On their Telegram / IG her body looks somewhat doable; not one that I'd pick but the sunk-cost fallacy took over my dick and brain. I waited 40 m already, I might as well just see if it's worth it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reviewing a place other than ROM haha. Sounds like a nightmare though, you must have the patience of a saint. Vanessa shows her face in her IG pics. So there is no way her face is a 5 unless she is using the most advanced filters from Chyna lmao.

[QUOTE=Sigwoof2;7512965]Agree with Milan. Also my atf.

Sayuri I haven't tried yet but will soon.

Charlie might've caught her on an off day, I like her about in par with Milan. Depends on what I'm feeling that day. Milan's for when I need a dirty baddie and Charlie's for when I want a submissive gnd.

Ella was actually kind of forgettable. I think she asked me for too much and that soured the whole experience. One and done for me.

April I found to be pretty attractive face but service was cold several times in a row. Naturals from what I remember but maybe someone correct that.

Apple haven't tried.[/QUOTE]Agree, I like Charlie for her gentleness and English fluency. April was playful to me and definitely has fakies. Sayuri is a pro, worked the industry in Japan and has a menu. Definitely recommend.

[QUOTE=DoubleDave04;7514393]Went to OC Wellness a few weeks ago (aka OC Angels, aka, Angels, aka Golden Touch, aka Golden Angels; aka who knows next- they keep changing their names and IG on a weekly basis LOL. Thought I'd check it out again (been there a couple of times a while ago, before they closed and re-opened).
[/QUOTE]I've been there twice and will not return. Basically same experience, waaay overpriced, crappy attitude, minimal effort for service from pretty much all of them. Mercedez was fun but she left and is working independent with Sammy now. Actually both of them are fun but pricey.

[QUOTE=TnaStylez;7514453]Thanks for reviewing a place other than ROM haha. Sounds like a nightmare though, you must have the patience of a saint. Vanessa shows her face in her IG pics. So there is no way her face is a 5 unless she is using the most advanced filters from Chyna lmao.[/QUOTE]Until she opens her mouth, LOL. Her teeth are the problem (in some cases, braces can look sexy, not in her case). But maybe I was negatively biased with the 5 because of the overall negative experience.

First, I'll say that (in my opinion), there's no other place like ROM in terms of service, cleanliness, hygiene, price, consistency, etc. What Krystal created there is by far superior to any other place I've seen. I almost always have a great experience at ROM. I'm not saying all the girls there are perfect, some better than others; everyone has their pros / cons depending on what you're into, but overall, she does an amazing job either in picking them or guiding them (or both). I also find (and that's true to mongering anywhere in OC / LA really), that very few providers out there give consistently great service to pretty much everyone (very rare); many providers (elsewhere I mean, not at ROM) give mediocre to low quality service most of the time (again, not at ROM, where the service level is exceptionally high overall IMO); but with many providers, YMMV depending on chemistry, vibe, your mood that day, her mood that day, etc:

Stacy (unfortunately on hiatus, hopefully will be back at some point) – My ATF. White (supposedly Asian / American but she's more American / White than Asian IMO) / Late 20's / dynamite body / MM-DD that don't feel like they are MM (I. E. Feel so natural but look and feel amazing) / The perfect amount of curves IMO / Amazing Massage / Nuru / Great eye contact / Does offer some extras but not for everyone – Will repeat any day of the week if only I could, LOL.

Ella. Late 20's / Early 30's / Vietnamese (some accent) / Super sexy / Busty MM D's / tall slim fit / Great eye contact / Very casual and open minded / Love to be touched / Massage was just ok but the Nuru & flip were great so who cares LOL / Does offer extras – Will repeat.

Mia. Late 20's / maybe early 30's / Thin fit / Super sexy Vietnamese / Amazing Cs / Great massage / Great flip with lots of teasing / Great eye contact / Very playful and sensual / Does offer some extras but not for everyone / One of the hottest there IMO (if you like the fit / big boos Asian look) / Her English is not amazing and she's got heavy accent that's hard to understand sometimes (and she loves to talk but she's so bubbly, playful, and fun, who cares LOL / One of my favorites / Will repeat.

Skyler – Mid 20's / Vietnamese / Thin / skinny / petite frame (perky B's) / Super sexy body, face and lips / She's looks different than other Asians at ROM / No MM boobs, no surgeries / More of a natural clean beauty / What I like about Skyler (and Charlie in the same way) is that the vibe feels more real / genuine / gentle. With some providers, even if they give a good show / act, you know it's an act (except Stacy. Her act is soooo good, you's fall for it every time, LOL). With Skyler things feel a bit more genuine and less of a performance, I also really like her gentle touch and back / neck kisses (she and Elana are the only ones I've seen at ROM that do these back / neck kisses) / Limited extras but not FS / One of my favorites / Will repeat.

Charlie. Mid 20's / Vietnamese / Beautiful face / Tiny sexy body with tiny sexy ass; Natural B's that are not as perfect as some of the MM ones at ROM (if you're a big-tits guy) / Like Skyler, she's not the typical ABG; more of a natural beauty- super cute and sexy personality / It's less the looks and more the down to earth, casual and genuine personality that makes her sexy to me (although I do find both her and Skyler beautiful) / No extras / One of my favorites / Will repeat.

Krystal (the owner) - Late 30's / early 40's Vietnamese / Short / small frame very cute body / Great DD's with perky nipples which was a huge turn on for me If you want the best (actual) massage, Krystal (and also Kris) are the best (both CMTs). Both Krystal and Kris are a bit older than other providers at ROM but look fantastic for their age IMO and both are sexy / The massage and the Nuru / flip were great as well / I am personally more attracted to younger providers but if you like (or don't mind) the slightly older age, you'll have fun.

Kris (mentioned above) - Late 30's / early 40's / Vietnamese / Pretty good body / Big fake tits / Lots of tats / Great massage overall (CMT) / very similar review to Krystal / They are the only ones there that offer early-bird discount, by the way, if you want to come in earlier in the morning.

Jasmine (rebranded Hazel) - Late 20's / Latina (Peruvian / American) / Petite slim athletic-fit, very sexy body / MM-D's that are not perfectly done (hard) but her body makes up for it / very cute personality / talkative (in a good way) and intelligent, which I find attrective / Super sensual too / Not sure about extras. Will repeat.

Kiana. Late 20's / Early 30's / American / Filipina (American really, but from Filipin origin) / Petite tanned hottie / MM-C's / D's / Beautiful face; sexy body – not bad massage but amazing flip / Easy to talk to / Not sure about extras / Also one of my favorites. Will repeat.

Andrea – 30's / Colombian / Tall / A bit thicker (not fat but thick) / Busty natural Ds (not soggy but not a 10, maybe 7-8) / Really fun and sensual / Massage was just OK but the flip was amazing / A bit reserved / business like in the first 5-10 m but once she opens up, the fun begins / Not sure about extras. Will repeat.

April - 30's / Super-hot Vietnamese / Perfect petite body, skinny, slim with MM-D's / Great massage (CMT), great flip / Not sure about extras / I've only seen her once, but if none of my other ATF available, I'll prob repeat.

Serena. Mid 20's / Native American (maybe Mexican / American? Not sure) / Not one of the stunners at ROM / More of a natural girl-next-door look, a bit overweight, but if you like the natural thick big tits / big ass look, she's one of the more sensual providers there / Willing to please kinda vibe / Great personality / Amazing eye contact / Not sure about extras (though the aim-to-please personality could suggest some, who knows) / I'm not into thick chicks, but if none of my ATF are available, I'll repeat because the session was a lot of fun.

Lily (rebranded Vanessa) - Late 20's Latina / Very sexy body IMO / Petite small hourglass waist (a bit on the thick side but in a good way) / Big amazing MM-DDs / BBL bubble butt / was a bit restrictive with me about not touching her body, boobs, etc. , and there wasn't much of a Nuru / body2 body but it could be just me; I will prob not repeat but she is hot and other people might have a different experience. Could also just be a bad day, I've only seen her once / Not sure about extras.

Janet. Early 30's / Latina (Maybe Mexican?) / A bit on the thick side / Huge butt (if that's your thing) and great MM-DDs / Great eye contact / She was not very enthusiastic, and the vibe was somewhat off, but she said she woke up feeling sick so it might just be a bad day. Only seen once / If none of my ATF is available, I might try again.

Katari. Mid 20's / Latina / White mix / Short / Hourglass fit with enhanced D's / Nice big butt / Looks great / Massage was nothing to report home about / No Nuru either (she said her boobs just got done about a month ago so not much touch or body2 body contact) / Lots of dirty talk though and sensual vibe / Hinted for extras but I never ask about that / She's new at ROM (not new as a provider) so if she gets better at the massage+flip / Nuru part and allow more touch, I might repeat. If not, I prob won't.

Elana. Mid 30's / White (supposedly Asian / Latina but I didn't see the Asian side) / A bit on the chubby side (not fat but maybe just a bit overweight) / Natural DD / Looks is a girl-next door 7 / OK massage but very nice Nuru with very happy flip / Lots of dirty talk and some gentle kisses on my back & neck, which I really liked / Beautiful long dark curly hair / She's also new to ROM so she'll prob get better at the massage part / body-wise she's not my type, but overall it was a great session, so I might repeat.

Apple. Early 30's / Chinese (I think) / Natural B's (not amazing when I saw her a while ago, but I just read someone reporting here that she's got nice big boobs, so maybe she got implants after I saw her) / Massage was not amazing / very little eye contact / Does offer extras / I didn't click with her so won't repeat but I did see some positive comments here so it could just be me.

Jean. Early 30's / Great body / Petite / Big, beautiful boobs (not huge) / Massage was not bad / I think I gave her bad vibe or something cause the entire session I felt like she's suspecting I'm LE or something; maybe it's something I said or how I was that day, I'm not sure. I read good reviews about her somewhere, but with me, it was cold, business-like attitude / not much smiling / no eye contact / no Nuru or body2 body at all / She set up a timer when we started, that beeped toward the end (which I've never had any other provider there do), then was very slow on the first part, leaving very little time for the flip; I understand wanting to make sure you don't go beyond the time booked, but there's a clock in every room at ROM and all other providers I've seen there are pretty good at read the room and leave enough time for the flip (I never book 30 m, so there should always be enough time); plus telling me "I'm setting a timer" at the beginning kinda killed the mood for me / Again, this could very much be me and the vibe I gave off that day / I prob won't repeat.

Milan. Early 30's / Petite / Vietnamese / Thai mix / Very nice MM-C's / Very nice body and cute personality / Does offer extras / Good massage but she didn't want any oil on her body so no Nuru or body2 body / Her English is not very good so it was hard for me to communicate (heavy accent) / For me, communication is a big turn on, so I won't repeat, but she is very sexy IMO so if you care less about the language barrier / accent, you'll prob enjoy.

Alice (aka Wolfie) - Mid 30's / American / White / By far, the best Nuru I got at any US establishment (reminded me of the real Nuru you get in Japan or Bangkok (minus the real Nuru gel, LOL) / She's overweight / I read some reviews here about how she is wild but gained a lot of weight after an accident / I enjoyed the Nuru part very much, but her big size was a turn off for me so I won't repeat. If you're into big girls, you will have the time of your life though.

Julie. Late 20's / Early 30's / Hispanic / Big butt / Nice big boobs / Just a bit overweight (not too much though) / Short / Was a bit on the controlling side; not extreme, but I prefer the slightly submissive type, so I won't repeat / She looks great and some people actually like women who take charge a bit so you might enjoy.

Two providers that were at ROM at some point but no longer there sadly:

Avon (aka Storm) and Kat – Both are kinda similar in many ways – Both are mid-late 20's / Asian / American / Super-hot IMO / Pretty face / Great MM-D's or DD's / Great service / Very friendly and down to earth / Enjoyed their sessions very much, I first saw Avon / Storm at ROM, and Kat I first saw at OC Wellness I think, and then at ROM if I remember correctly / too bad they are not at ROM anymore (they are both at 17St. Santa Ana Healing now, and maybe at other spas as well, not sure).

Providers I'd love to read more reviews about (lots of new faces there recently), so if you've had any experience with them, please share more details (a few of these do have one review here but it's really helpful to read more reviews to get a more consistent picture before booking):

Vee / Aria / Maria / Taylor / Cata / Val / Jayda / Sayuri / Bia / Nova / Leighton / Mari / Demi / Alexis / Olivia / Mel / Alena (not Elana) / Yuyu / Laura.

Awesome write-up DoubleDave04. Thanks for taking the time. I've pretty much seen all the girls you mentioned. I'm in 95% agreement and every review is directionally correct. I'll try to rack my brain and provide short reviews on some of the other girls.

I think Bia used to be Mia-Gia in Laguna Hills. It's been a couple years so I'm honestly inclined to try her again. But I'll post my old write-up which was not flattering:

Mia-Gia enigma. Advertises heavily. Has potential. Early 20's white / Brazilian petite with good body. Massage above average. However, she's the sexiest unsexy girl I've experienced. Tried her twice thinking she had off day the first time. Nope. She's just awkward. I always respect if girls are conservative but very limited in offering (I. E. Almost felt like she was offended to have breasts touched) and candidly couldn't get hard and just gave up.

[QUOTE=DoubleDave04;7515082]First, I'll say that (in my opinion), there's no other place like ROM in terms of service, cleanliness, hygiene, price, consistency, etc. What Krystal created there is by far superior to any other place I've seen. I almost always have a great experience at ROM. I'm not saying all the girls there are perfect, some better than others; everyone has their pros / cons depending on what you're into, but overall, she does an amazing job either in picking them or guiding them (or both). I also find (and that's true to mongering anywhere in OC / LA really), that very few providers out there give consistently great service to pretty much everyone (very rare); many providers (elsewhere I mean, not at ROM) give mediocre to low quality service most of the time (again, not at ROM, where the service level is exceptionally high overall IMO); but with many providers, YMMV depending on chemistry, vibe, your mood that day, her mood that day, etc:
[/QUOTE]Great post to start the year!

Been reading this thread and not sure if we are talking about one place or multiple. After some searching, I assumed it's off bristol in CM but not totally sure. I'm also confused of it's nuru with some extras or a full on FS place (don't really want that). Also not sure about OTD $. Any help is much appreciated. Can DM me, if it's better. Any help is much appreciated.

[QUOTE=JDog1234;7517114]Been reading this thread and not sure if we are talking about one place or multiple. After some searching, I assumed it's off bristol in CM but not totally sure. I'm also confused of it's nuru with some extras or a full on FS place (don't really want that). Also not sure about OTD $. Any help is much appreciated. Can DM me, if it's better. Any help is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Generally nuru. A few girls as mentioned earlier in the thread have a menu. Prices are OTD, you're not haggling unless you're asking for extras.

Any recent intel on Irina? [URL]https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/hws/d/irvine-professional-massage-therapist/7912657089.html[/URL].

I've seen a mixed bag here in using the search. One person says HE with upcharge, one said she let him finish himself, one said nothing at all. Wondering if anyone has seen her recently and what the experience was.

Very good points by the last few posts. In my opinion I also say there is a reason why ROM is mentioned a lot here due to top cleanliness, service, and price is probably the best I've been to. I've checked out VT & that place is very dark smelly, old & dirty to say the least for me that I wanted to get out asap LOL as my luck of the draw drew someone not to my liking & the price was overinflated even for 30 min. Saga in La Habra seems to the the new joint in the competition but once again talent, pricing & older unit has it room for improvement. Haven is probably the next best choice in terms of after ROM in terms of pricing / cleaner spot however after a few temp shutdowns and fewer talent to my eyes stopped going. Seems like Min / Wendy still fan favorites there. SA 17/ Laguna is also a bit more older units, semi clean as well however their crazy up charging along with bit more duds & horrible experience in the bad service girls theres no going back. Storm is the popular gal there along w a few that vibe with but the cons outweigh the pros. LF & 112 or whatnot I forget cause is also pretty similar buildings people have mentioned Kai is pretty popular, but once again price is too high for me. Sensation in Brea is also super outdated with the unit being the darkest rundown smell, feeling like stevie wonder trying to see things.

Now ROM.

April to me is probably has the best overall in terms of fakies that looks & feel like a natural, good legit massage and sensual flip, however personality it seems a bit colder and less into conversation if you looking for that.

Yuyu I think is all natural is thicker asian, pretty friendly and chatty but nothing to write home about.

Charlie also fan favorite, gnd petitie pretty submissive type however lately she's not as slim as in the past.

Sayuri probably the most legit nuru pro of them all sensual, good bust, attractive very chatty as well. As she was in japan prob makes sense she knows what she's doing the most.

Mya also chatty and attractive with a pretty decent massage but sensuality is lacking.

Kiana seems to be a popular choice as well as she is busty, friendly just above par on sensuality that leaves a bit more to be desired.

YMMV of course if she likes you, can bargin more and type of extras pending.

There's a nuru spa in Tustin that used to be Vanity spa but now off Irvine Blvd. I asked about a girl Alondra which had a nice picture on their IG account. "latina, petite, open minded, 25 yr old". LOL. More of 40's, fat and just not attractive. Tried to just get away with massage and close my eyes for HE but just couldn't make it happen. Oh well, I got duped. Just a PSA to pass on.

Can you provide more info? What is it called now instead of Vanity? What is their IG?

[QUOTE=OCanon;7518988]There's a nuru spa in Tustin that used to be Vanity spa but now off Irvine Blvd. I asked about a girl Alondra which had a nice picture on their IG account. "latina, petite, open minded, 25 yr old". LOL. More of 40's, fat and just not attractive. Tried to just get away with massage and close my eyes for HE but just couldn't make it happen. Oh well, I got duped. Just a PSA to pass on.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DoubleDave04;7519084]Can you provide more info? What is it called now instead of Vanity? What is their IG?[/QUOTE]I don't want to provide free advertising to a bad owner. Just if you find yourself at a spa on Irvine Blvd in Tustin, Alondra is not a women you need to see if you care about looks.

[QUOTE=CheepMoney;7518761]Very good points by the last few posts. In my opinion I also say there is a reason why ROM is mentioned a lot here due to top cleanliness, service, and price is probably the best I've been to. I've checked out VT & that place is very dark smelly, old & dirty to say the least for me that I wanted to get out asap LOL as my luck of the draw drew someone not to my liking & the price was overinflated even for 30 min. Saga in La Habra seems to the the new joint in the competition but once again talent, pricing & older unit has it room for improvement. Haven is probably the next best choice in terms of after ROM in terms of pricing / cleaner spot however after a few temp shutdowns and fewer talent to my eyes stopped going. Seems like Min / Wendy still fan favorites there. SA 17/ Laguna is also a bit more older units, semi clean as well however their crazy up charging along with bit more duds & horrible experience in the bad service girls theres no going back. Storm is the popular gal there along w a few that vibe with but the cons outweigh the pros. LF & 112 or whatnot I forget cause is also pretty similar buildings people have mentioned Kai is pretty popular, but once again price is too high for me. Sensation in Brea is also super outdated with the unit being the darkest rundown smell, feeling like stevie wonder trying to see things.

Now ROM.

April to me is probably has the best overall in terms of fakies that looks & feel like a natural, good legit massage and sensual flip, however personality it seems a bit colder and less into conversation if you looking for that.
[/QUOTE]Appreciate your review as well! Boys, we got ROM covered lmao. You know that classic joke about Vietnamese nail techs gossiping about their clients in Vietnamese right in front of them? Every time I walk by the staff room at ROM, I hear so much Vietnamese chatter I start to wonder if they're secretly talking about us as well lmao.

[QUOTE=JDog1234;7517114]Been reading this thread and not sure if we are talking about one place or multiple. After some searching, I assumed it's off bristol in CM but not totally sure. I'm also confused of it's nuru with some extras or a full on FS place (don't really want that). Also not sure about OTD $. Any help is much appreciated. Can DM me, if it's better. Any help is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Went back a couple pages on this thread and I can see why it's so popular, but I am also having problems figuring out where this ROM place is located. Can I get some help with the location. Feel free to DM me as well. TIA.

Bristol / Santa Ana. Google rom massage nuru, you should be able to find it at the top.

[QUOTE=FredInTheBed;7532267]Went back a couple pages on this thread and I can see why it's so popular, but I am also having problems figuring out where this ROM place is located. Can I get some help with the location. Feel free to DM me as well. TIA.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DoubleDave04;7532613]Bristol / Santa Ana. Google rom massage nuru, you should be able to find it at the top.[/QUOTE]I set my GPS to ALDI lmao.

Anyone got any good recs for independent nuru? I do not want to see a provider in a spa / studio or anything like that. I've seen my fair share of regular massage providers so willing to share info.

[QUOTE=DoubleDave04;7532613]Bristol / Santa Ana. Google rom massage nuru, you should be able to find it at the top.[/QUOTE]Figured it out after going back a few more threads, but thanks for the info.

MPs are good but often not sensual enough. As a no FS kind of guy I think nuru fits what I am looking for.

However, tips are all over the place. From $. 6 to up to $$ If I look at ROMs website there pricing is $.6 + .5 for body scrubs.

What should I be expecting if all I want is a massage with an HE no extras. I know it's all YMMV but I also don't want to overspend.

Feel free to DM if that's better. Thanks!

[QUOTE=FredInTheBed;7536429]Figured it out after going back a few more threads, but thanks for the info.

MPs are good but often not sensual enough. As a no FS kind of guy I think nuru fits what I am looking for.

However, tips are all over the place. From $. 6 to up to $$ If I look at ROMs website there pricing is $.6 + .5 for body scrubs.

What should I be expecting if all I want is a massage with an HE no extras. I know it's all YMMV but I also don't want to overspend.

Feel free to DM if that's better. Thanks![/QUOTE]Nuru is fun but if you are worried about over spending, ROM is not for you. Starting rate for all girls there for 30 m is 180. Thats just a basic massage with with about 5-10 minutes of mutual touch and HJ.

[QUOTE=AnotherBogie;7536486]Nuru is fun but if you are worried about over spending, ROM is not for you. Starting rate for all girls there for 30 m is 180. Thats just a basic massage with with about 5-10 minutes of mutual touch and HJ.[/QUOTE]There was a typo on my end. I saw someone tip $$ That is what I meant by overspending.

I am willing to try it once to take it off my list. The basic massage is still nuru correct?

I'm looking for some good amount of mutual touch. MPs that are only HE can only get me so far.

May need to try some of the FS places but request HE with mutual touch only.

In any case, thanks for the advice.