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[QUOTE=JabberWorky;3067911]What is the custom, consensus for paying a stripper for services, whether it be dances or extras. Everybody preaches about negotiating beforehand but I have never seen a discussion of when to pay.[/QUOTE]If a stripper wants you to pay up front it a red flag, always pay after.
[QUOTE=DA9988;3067482]I don't know who though that setup for a strip club was a good idea. Lets make the bar not the girls the focal point of the place.[/QUOTE]It was meant to be a very exclusive club but it didn't work out.
[QUOTE=JabberWorky;3067911]What is the custom, consensus for paying a stripper for services, whether it be dances or extras. Everybody preaches about negotiating beforehand but I have never seen a discussion of when to pay.[/QUOTE]The only thing I pay for before the deed is Milk and escorts.
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;3068313]Hear my now, and believe me later. The reason a girl wants payment in advance is because they have had customers in the past who didn't want to pay after the "deed". The reason guys don't want to pay after the deed is because the deed isn't what was agreed to. Lets say you negotiate a BBBJ with cim and a little futb. You, like a fool, pay in advance. Then the BBBJ becomes a covered HJ, the futb becomes "I don't do that, are you almost done"? Any time a girl wants money in advance, I counter with "I'm not in the mood", I pay for one dance (10 or 20), and I walk out. It doesn't matter that she says fine, pay after. I KNOW the service will not ve good. I know this hecause I have been to the VIP hundreds of times. Don't believe me? Fine, you'll believe me later.[/QUOTE]So you've paid up to $20 to get in the VIP and to teach her a lesson your going to do one song (upwards of $25)? A better solution is to pull out the cash to show her you have the cash, that usually works for the girls I've done who requested cash first. Remember, there are guys out there who fuck then say they are broke.
[QUOTE=StripperLover;3069285]So you've paid up to $20 to get in the VIP and to teach her a lesson your going to do one song (upwards $25.... Remember, there are guys out there who fuck then say they are broke.[/QUOTE]I've never paid more than $10 for a VIP pass, and I'm going to get another girl anyway. Its been my experience that girls who want the money up front give bad service. I pay for one song so she can't say I stiffed her. I walk out quick so the bouncer sees how quick I was. I've never had a good service girl complain about no-pays.
She is even there on sun. She came through again.
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;3069338]I've never paid more than $10 for a VIP pass, and I'm going to get another girl anyway. Its been my experience that girls who want the money up front give bad service. I pay for one song so she can't say I stiffed her. I walk out quick so the bouncer sees how quick I was. I've never had a good service girl complain about no-pays.[/QUOTE]Doesn't work that way in a club where you have to pay a VIP for every girl. My way is the best way to handle girls who insist on the money upfront in clubs where the VIP fee stings you every time. Show the girl the money, put it in your top pocket and say that its right there when everything is done. If you have a VIP bracelet like you buy at H8th then your way is the best way, especially if its $10 dance day where you'd take even less of a hit. But to quit negotiating when she requests cash up front in a club like the Col who now charges a $15 VIP fee will sting you for $40 for that one dance. I've negotiated for FS there for $100, no way I'm walking out of the VIP after one song and being down $40.
In the end you are both right and wrong. You are 100% correct in not wanting to give the girl the money beforehand. But your wrong about trying to fix the problem by just walking out (in certain situations) after one dance. But if I did go down your path of cutting and running, I would probably do it the second the girl asked for the money up front. That's usually within the first 20 seconds. If your a regular customer and the bar staff know you there is no way they'd say you owed the girl for a dance when you weren't in the booth for more than a minute. I've been to sex clubs and have had girls refuse sex upon entering room based on seeing my dick then saying they'd only do a BJ. I've gotten up and said 'no thanks' and walked out of the room with the girl yelling for her money since we had entered the room.
I am so desperate for a Katy Perry looking stripper any body knows any.
Late report guys.
After my disappointing visit with Jennifer on the day shift at Bogart's, earlier in the week, I decided to go out last Thursday to H8 N for the night shift. I needed a talented girl to take care of me and I knew it was very likely that Ashley was working, which she was.
For those of you who aren't familiar with Ashley, she's a very petite spinner, about 5' tall, probably 100 lbs, hair to her shoulders, small tits and her best feature IMO is her tiny, tight little ass. As always, she's a star performer and I left happy. It was the standard routine: BBBJ, CG, RCG and K9 finish. Sadly, the only downside to her is that traveling to Greece is not an option with her. She'd briefly talked about it in the past and it seemed like it could be an option at some point in the future but I guess she changed her mind. Oh well.
[QUOTE=Vip11;3070247]I am so desperate for a Katy Perry looking stripper any body knows any.[/QUOTE]I don't know of any Katy Perry lookalikes but if you'd like a Drew Barrymore lookalike, go see Renee on the night shift at Bogart's.
[QUOTE=TomSmith26;3070187]She is even there on sun. She came through again.[/QUOTE]Cashmere is a star performer. If you see her, you never leave unhappy.
[QUOTE=StripperLover;3070217]But your wrong about trying to fix the problem by just walking out (in certain situations) after one dance. But if I did go down your path of cutting and running, I would probably do it the second the girl asked for the money up front. That's usually within the first 20 seconds. If your a regular customer and the bar staff know you there is no way they'd say you owed the girl for a dance when you weren't in the booth for more than a minute.[/QUOTE]I do walk out in less than a minute, but I pay for one song anyway. I tell the girl, I'm a regular, I've never cheated a girl, they all know me. The girl will say "ok, you can pay after", and I say sorry, I'm not in the mood. Think about it, if a guy just refused to pay a girl who gives good service, everyone in the bar would hear about it and you'd have a hard time getting a dance in the future. I don't worry about the girl's problems. They can make as much money as a corporate lawyer, with about 10 minutes of training. They can drink and play with their phone while they're working, they can smoke at work, come in late, leave early, and not worry about passing a random drug test. I worry about my problems, like how am I going to get my dick sucked on a fixed income.
Admittedly, my mind has recently been changed about paying up front, unless I've seen the girl many times before and I'm sure there won't be an issue (Ashley at H8 N, Sky at H8's and Riley at Bogart's are all examples of no worries for me).
If there's someone new that I'm with or someone that I haven't been with in a while, I'd be inclined to hold back paying them until things are done. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't stiff them but somehow, I get the idea of just waiting to pay them may improve the service. I mean, at least mentally, once the girl has the money, there's less incentive to complete the performance as agreed.
My attitude about paying up front changed after I saw Jennifer at Bogart's last week (look for my review posted a few days ago). In a nutshell, it had been several years since I'd seen her, we agreed to no song count, we got in the back, I paid her and then, four songs later, she tells me "It's been four songs already". That's a bit of pressure and add that to the fact that we explicitly agreed to no song count, I was irritated. My thought process is that she really didn't have to worry about things, because she already had the cash. If there had been a doubt left in her mind that I may have not paid what we agreed too or that I might have gotten pissed and just paid her for the four songs and left, it's possible that things could have been different. It's also possible that since she didn't have the money yet, she'd have been far less likely to pull the counting songs stunt.
Lesson learned.
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;3070947]I don't know of any Katy Perry lookalikes but if you'd like a Drew Barrymore lookalike, go see Renee on the night shift at Bogart's.[/QUOTE]Hi does she offer extras.
[QUOTE=Vip11;3071421]Hi does she offer extras.[/QUOTE]Aggressively.