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[QUOTE=TopGun9;6125071]I even asked them to text me their IDs before M&G. I am not taking any chances.[/QUOTE]I agree that this is a wise precaution, and depending on how savvy the POT is, can even give you their real identity. This can help you avoid problem girls, like one's with arrest records, and just is something you can keep in your back pocket in case something goes wrong and she threatens you.
IK this thread is read and posted on by people all over the country. You should know that depending on the jurisdiction, even just messaging with someone who is not of a legal age concerning sexual matters could be illegal. So, I never take any chances on this. If a girl looks 'young', no matter what the profile says, I ask in an early message for her assurance she is at least 18. Sometimes you get insightful answers back, such as that you can't get tattoos if you aren't 18 (I am not 100% sure about this one, but it actually carries some weight, in a world where teenagers can also get fake IDs). Also dependent on the jurisdiction I presume.
Even though I heard SB sucks, recently quite a few gals I have seen or know are legit have shown up over there. Plus there are some interesting pots on there so I signed up for the 100 credits for $60.
It's 10 credits to message, 10 to view hidden photos and 10 to view any photos she sends over chat there.
So I was only able to contact 10. As others have mentioned, choose wisely ones that seem legit. However for me, I only got 4 replies out of the first 9. Only 1 of those actually chatted beyond the "how are you". Others Robots? I saved my last credits for one I had been messaging on Seeking until my membership ran out. That one has panned out so the $60 wasn't a total loss.
On a side note, those verification videos are eye opening in most cases. No makeup and sour looks seem to be the norm. Not even saying "let me be your secret" in a sexy voice. Like SA, I got lots messages I never opened. Only a few out of state, unlike SA where they jump on you like vultures if you are out in public view.
Lots of hot young gals with lots of face pics if you like to browse. Tons "online" but over half never acknowledged my free favorite button. SB is missing that as money grabber as well. LOL.
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;6076628]Used that wording. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0369ef5c-9be5-4743-92aa-77bd7ddf7edc[/URL].
"A 2-4 k monthly allowance, only 2 sex per month, also include trips / gifts / shopping and dinners!
Apparently I'm a broke cheapskate because.
"I do have 3 or 4 offers at those prices".
And then she lays into me for saying "you only bang 2 x a month?" Guess only she can use sex work language.[/QUOTE]Yeah, super expensive, But, I had dinner with her, and she was unusual but very bright. I ended up parting with a 7$ encounter, which was essentially kissing and having her tongue on me with a jerk on the titties. The dick had to have a taste! Happy Mongering! It is a little bit high moneywise in the current market in RVA for this level of product.
[QUOTE=Round3;6123839]I see she is on Secret Benefits today as Delilah4 u2. Doesn't hide that she is overweight in the photos. Her verification video without makeup and the 2 dressing room pics are enough to keep many away in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Yes. She was always big. Too big now IMO. However, I hired her at an hourly rate ($100) to come over and give me a massage, bath, and shave my balls etc. I did put it in her mouth for a minute (as my dick insisted). She will text you (use burner) a lot to try to hook up again. I basically use her (and a couple of others) as a private groomers to prep for my real hottie and far more expensive SB dates (shave asshole etc), and get a massage if I am getting high on an evening and want to have some pampering. Happy mongering!
[QUOTE=MikeJones1962;6125531]Yeah, super expensive, But, I had dinner with her, and she was unusual but very bright. I ended up parting with a 7$ encounter, which was essentially kissing and having her tongue on me with a jerk on the titties. The dick had to have a taste! Happy Mongering! It is a little bit high moneywise in the current market in RVA for this level of product.[/QUOTE]My god, I feel sorry for you guys. I am in southern California, and that girl would not merit a second look here. I had this one a long time ago, at 600 (over night, absolutely everything I wanted). The most I have ever ever paid.
[QUOTE=EscortReview89;6101576]SA discount SEP2022 V25 25%.[/QUOTE]V33 also works.
[QUOTE=LikItFun;6125987]V33 also works.[/QUOTE]Didn't work for me.
Trying to set some meets up. Contacting or in contact with the following, haven't seen anything on them posted, so just reaching out. I know, I'm not a fan of these kind of posts either, just wanted to find out if anyone can at least get some help with getting past the time wasters and / or have any experiences to share at this point. Feel free to DM me if you want. Appreciate any assistance, thanks.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8fb789ac-8032-4d89-bf31-2d2432a9c987[/URL] - Seashell9509.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d01b58c4-e0a0-40a8-8645-51578abcd1c2-[/URL] Angelik.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/75363bff-2b8d-4ebd-be72-3db9bacc8e38[/URL] - RedRaveBabe.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c13669e7-0f58-47ac-819a-165fe5534347[/URL] - Cheergirl3450.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/183b4bec-4a5e-41f3-9c3a-80332d8a3e93[/URL] -EasygoingGal.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f90fb137-1a3f-4346-99f1-5fcaccb4bb82[/URL] - CollegeGal25.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/447fa0c5-aa9b-46d8-acb0-d510dfe625d7[/URL] - Pretty Smart 420.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bb08c607-58c4-46f2-96ae-e8ab2066a1b0-[/URL] LilLadyEliza.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/813886af-1493-49ad-ad00-3747c9b06022-[/URL] Bluberrybaby.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3e9ae5bb-5db8-41a3-8ceb-639b720796e5-[/URL] Pinecone456.
Enjoy redheads, so if you have any info to share, happy to hear about it. Senior member and discreet / gentleman. Happy to share info as I get it.
This one has been on for 3 years and I see not posts on her. I tried to see her last year but she was a hot mess so I pushed her aside for something younger / cuter. She hit me up which re-peaked my interest but haven't seen anyone post about her. Has anyone been to the FC with this one? [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/59f74119-d6ce-4252-887b-7046f36ccd7c[/URL].
Christy with the dice tattoos! Wow!
Six or seven years ago. Would love to reconnect with her.
[QUOTE=Tyrex2;6127762]Trying to set some meets up. Contacting or in contact with the following, haven't seen anything on them posted, so just reaching out. I know, I'm not a fan of these kind of posts either, just wanted to find out if anyone can at least get some help with getting past the time wasters and / or have any experiences to share at this point. Feel free to DM me if you want. Appreciate any assistance, thanks.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8fb789ac-8032-4d89-bf31-2d2432a9c987[/URL] - Seashell9509.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d01b58c4-e0a0-40a8-8645-51578abcd1c2-[/URL] Angelik.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/75363bff-2b8d-4ebd-be72-3db9bacc8e38[/URL] - RedRaveBabe.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c13669e7-0f58-47ac-819a-165fe5534347[/URL] - Cheergirl3450.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/183b4bec-4a5e-41f3-9c3a-80332d8a3e93[/URL] -EasygoingGal.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f90fb137-1a3f-4346-99f1-5fcaccb4bb82[/URL] - CollegeGal25.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/447fa0c5-aa9b-46d8-acb0-d510dfe625d7[/URL] - Pretty Smart 420.[/QUOTE]Once upon a time chatted with RedRave babe. Got a face pic. 7.5-8. She ghosted, then came back but never replied to me. Lives West of Rva, not in the city area proper.
Well, this is not helpful. Some idiot from Stanford is conflating OF, TikTok and Snap posters with being a sugar baby. Worse, there are men (simps) participating happily. Am I the only person who has not heard of "Thirst Traps" before?
[URL]https://www.piratewires.com/p/the-sugar-babies-of-stanford-university?[/URL]
BAM.
[QUOTE=WilliamsJJ703;6129553]This one has been on for 3 years and I see not posts on her. I tried to see her last year but she was a hot mess so I pushed her aside for something younger / cuter. She hit me up which re-peaked my interest but haven't seen anyone post about her. Has anyone been to the FC with this one? [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/59f74119-d6ce-4252-887b-7046f36ccd7c[/URL].[/QUOTE]She hit me up twice both times wanted money up front for phone bills and electric bill 😒.
[QUOTE=BamBam;6129940]Well, this is not helpful. Some idiot from Stanford is conflating OF, TikTok and Snap posters with being a sugar baby. Worse, there are men (simps) participating happily. Am I the only person who has not heard of "Thirst Traps" before?
[URL]https://www.piratewires.com/p/the-sugar-babies-of-stanford-university?[/URL]
BAM.[/QUOTE]It's a pretty common phrase.
[QUOTE=TennisStud90;5829343]Married guys. Do you use your real pictures on SA? I have been on before and used real pictures but always so worried someone I know would be on there and see me. Or that someone would screenshot my account and use it as leverage if they wanted to blackmail me. It seems so risky. Is there a place where I can find similar pictures of myself? Or where I can alter my pictures?[/QUOTE]Stumbled across this old post and wanted to share my experience. I am married. When I first got on SA a few years ago, I did not have a public photo but did have a private photo of myself. I would only reveal the private photo to POTs I felt comfortable with. I was naive and inexperienced to all the scammers on the site. I also texted a few POTs face pics and mentioned my IRL profession in conversation. I was using a burner phone and thought that was enough opsec.
Big mistake. A blackmailer started calling me on my real cell and at work. I tried blocking the number but he had some technology that could bypass the block with No Caller I'd that would come up. I tried ignoring him but he was relentless and started calling my wife too. He wanted 10 k or else he was going to "come to my neighborhood and tell everyone what I was up to. " Knew my real name and address. I said fuck you I will never give you any money and filed a police report. I was ready to accept the damage to my RL rather than pay a blackmailer. He eventually went away but it was a very stressful few weeks.
Took about a year off SA bc I didn't want to expose myself to that again. Got back on a few months ago. Now I use the pics of a guy who looks like me except maybe a bit better looking. I get the photos from FB but not of any of my friends. Even with that my profile pic cuts off half the face. My private pics are of the same guy and show the full face but I changed the color of the photos using the Painter app. I never, never, never text my actual photo to anyone. If a POT asks me to text a face pic I send her one of the same dude I use for my private pics. I also never tell any POT my real profession. I look enough like the dude in the photos that when I meet the baby it's never an issue.
[QUOTE=BroadwayJay;6132559]Stumbled across this old post and wanted to share my experience. .[/QUOTE]I am married and I do the exact same thing. Never put your REAL face out there.
[QUOTE=TopGun9;6132997]I am married and I do the exact same thing. Never put your REAL face out there.[/QUOTE]I did the same -- similar but not me pic.
Started texting, she noticed the difference in the pics I did send and when I wouldn't meet her outrageous $ expectation, she reported me.
SA suspended me, asking that I send a copy of a Govt I'd to verify the pic in my profile was me, or I could kiss access good bye.
Was able to create a new profile with different, but real pic.
I'm not on social media. At all. I don't reveal my real career, schooling or any of the nuggets I've used to verify a POT IRL so they won't turn the tables on me.
This one has some family drama going on so be forewarned that she might blow up your phone asking for help. In need of money so is open to most anything.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6458a303-53ab-4433-a0a9-9f5f00f0147f[/URL]
[QUOTE=Round3;6133909]This one has some family drama going on so be forewarned that she might blow up your phone asking for help. In need of money so is open to most anything.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6458a303-53ab-4433-a0a9-9f5f00f0147f[/URL][/QUOTE]That there is some fat infested waters, beware.
Quote Originally Posted by CandyMan555.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2...f-12a395845580[/URL]
Met this Lebanese one from Seeking said she was from Los Angelos going to BU you had sex and she massaged me and said to take off my ring due to too much oil WHEN SHE LEFT I couldn't FIND MY COLLEGE RING.
After she left she send me pictures of us having sex, and said if I don't send her money she is going to send the pictures to the contacts on my phone She said she was 17.
She sent me videos of us having sex and said she was going to send them to my contacts.
What a DISASTER.
What is the best US city for sugaring?
Phoenix, AZ used to be great. But now is full of scammers and girls asking for minimum of $500 for a meet and greet.
Please post suggestions.
[QUOTE=CandyMan555;6134457]Quote Originally Posted by CandyMan555.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2...f-12a395845580[/URL]
Met this Lebanese one from Seeking said she was from Los Angelos going to BU you had sex and she massaged me and said to take off my ring due to too much oil WHEN SHE LEFT I couldn't FIND MY COLLEGE RING.
After she left she send me pictures of us having sex, and said if I don't send her money she is going to send the pictures to the contacts on my phone She said she was 17.
She sent me videos of us having sex and said she was going to send them to my contacts.
What a DISASTER.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that. Had a very similar experience a few years when I was travelling. Not sure if this one will go through it in your situation but for me I held firm and the girl eventually stopped contacting me. I told her if she went through with her threats I would report it to local law enforcement and the FBI. Sent her a link to an article where a lady was prosecuted for trying to blackmail someone in a similar situation. All in all though it was probably the most stressful two weeks of my life. I guess the lesson I learned was either stop taking these risks or make sure not to leave your phone or anything else that could identify you lying around. Put everything in the hotel safe and lock it up.
Got an email with 33% offer code. Might be specific to accounts / emails, but doesn't hurt to give it a try if you've been considering paying for SA Premium.
VWO33 RBELT1.
[QUOTE=Ares999;6134694]Sorry to hear that. Had a very similar experience a few years when I was travelling. Not sure if this one will go through it in your situation but for me I held firm and the girl eventually stopped contacting me. I told her if she went through with her threats I would report it to local law enforcement and the FBI. Sent her a link to an article where a lady was prosecuted for trying to blackmail someone in a similar situation. All in all though it was probably the most stressful two weeks of my life. I guess the lesson I learned was either stop taking these risks or make sure not to leave your phone or anything else that could identify you lying around. Put everything in the hotel safe and lock it up.[/QUOTE]The standard response to such threats should be. That is, assuming that you are 100% sure that she is of legal age (you checked this out, right? She has tattoos, so you have to be 18 to get those, right?) or you saw her drivers license?
Anyway. The standard response when someone threatening to expose you to family, friends, spouse should be that, while what I did might not have been the nicest thing I've ever done, and could be embarrassing, it isn't illegal. However, blackmail is a Federal felony, and I happen to have all of the documentary evidence a prosecutor could ever want in your texts to convict you of that. So, if you would like to pursue this action, I won't just lay back and take it, I will be heading to the Department of Justice.
[QUOTE=Happtrav;6134603]What is the best US city for sugaring?
Phoenix, AZ used to be great. But now is full of scammers and girls asking for minimum of $500 for a meet and greet.
Please post suggestions.[/QUOTE]I had a great time on a business trip to Chicago a month or so ago, I posted about it in their Arrangement thread. Saw 3 girls in 5 nites there. Memorable experiences.
[QUOTE=CandyMan555;6134457]Quote Originally Posted by CandyMan555.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2...f-12a395845580[/URL]
Met this Lebanese one from Seeking said she was from Los Angelos going to BU you had sex and she massaged me and said to take off my ring due to too much oil WHEN SHE LEFT I couldn't FIND MY COLLEGE RING.
After she left she send me pictures of us having sex, and said if I don't send her money she is going to send the pictures to the contacts on my phone She said she was 17.
She sent me videos of us having sex and said she was going to send them to my contacts.[/QUOTE]Also keep in mind that many jurisdictions have laws against 'revenge porn'. While we might think of this as usually a guy exposing his ex, I am sure the way the laws are written, the perp can be the woman, not the guy (and same-sex relationships of course). Check into that, and use the laws against revenge porn in your push back against her.
If you get threatend with blackmail, call that shit. It's a felony, she said she is 17 and going to send it, and filmed it with out you knowing? That's the production and distribution of underage material, another two felonies. I'd roll those dice at court.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6135221]...
Anyway. The standard response when someone threatening to expose you to family, friends, spouse should be that, while what I did might not have been the nicest thing I've ever done, and could be embarrassing, it isn't illegal. However, blackmail is a Federal felony, and I happen to have all of the documentary evidence a prosecutor could ever want in your texts to convict you of that. So, if you would like to pursue this action, I won't just lay back and take it, I will be heading to the Department of Justice.[/QUOTE]Argeed with.
After that, block them and you will never hear from them again. They will move to the next target.
[QUOTE=CandyMan555;6134457]Quote Originally Posted by CandyMan555.
After she left she send me pictures of us having sex, and said if I don't send her money she is going to send the pictures to the contacts on my phone She said she was 17.
She sent me videos of us having sex and said she was going to send them to my contacts.
[/QUOTE]Respectfully, could you provide a little more clarity on this? I'm always very interested in how the scams and robberies these "girls" do play out -- knowing how these things work is the first step to us all being able to prevent it from happening to us on these dates.
I get how the girl could steal your college ring while you weren't looking, that one's easy. But she took video of you having sex? I mean, to do that she would have had to carefully prop her phone up and aim the lens at the bed, and roll the camera. Or she went into this with some kind of "spy-cam" hardware actually pre-installed in her purse of something. You said "after she left" so that implies she was in your space / hotel room, so she couldn't have pre-set her camera to record -- she would have had to have done this on the fly after she came to your room. If the hidden-cam/spy-cam route, that is some serious pre-planning plus an actual initial investment in hardware. If true, seems like she is likely not working alone in this scam -- Not out of the realm of possibility, but I have a hard time imagining an 18 year-old-looking girl pulling this kind of investment / pre-planning / operation off completely by herself. I mean, 18 year old girls generally have much simpler and reliable ways of extracting money from men using their 18 year old wiles....
And also -- how the hell did she get the contacts on your phone? Is this girl some Lebanese NSA-grade hacker? Did she show proof of having those contacts? I'm guessing that is a bluff, but damn, if true I'd really like to know how the hell that happened.
I think I did the steps needed, but still banned whenever I attempted to pay for premium membership.
1 - Get VPN.
2 - Cleared cache / cookies.
3 - Get new pics and email.
4 - Get a new prepaid Vanilla One card (register with different zip code).
5 - Sign up for new SA membership. DONE. So far so good.
6 - Browse SA profiles for a few days, put in some likes, etc.
7 - Go upgrade to premium membership under different name, address, zip code, prepaid card, etc. - BOOM Suspended!
WTH is going on. How the hell do you get around this?
I've tried the other sites such as SB, WYP, Tagged, etc. And they are all worse than SA IMO.
[QUOTE=TopGun9;6136888]I think I did the steps needed, but still banned whenever I attempted to pay for premium membership.
1 - Get VPN.
2 - Cleared cache / cookies.
3 - Get new pics and email.
4 - Get a new prepaid Vanilla One card (register with different zip code).
5 - Sign up for new SA membership. DONE. So far so good.
6 - Browse SA profiles for a few days, put in some likes, etc.
7 - Go upgrade to premium membership under different name, address, zip code, prepaid card, etc. - BOOM Suspended!
WTH is going on. How the hell do you get around this?
I've tried the other sites such as SB, WYP, Tagged, etc. And they are all worse than SA IMO.[/QUOTE]Likely it is based on your MAC address. You need to use a new device to sign up, or to change your MAC address on your current device with a spoofer.
I have heard there is browser fingerprinting being done, based on window size, etc. Etc, so that might also be a trick. Switching that is needed.
I just opened a new SA profile, to spy on profiles of girls I have blocked or who may have blocked me. I noted this in the agreements you must go through.
I thought the site was allowing me to message, seemed like they were going through, I had heard that the first 10 or so were free. So, I started putting in my email address, as I knew it wouldn't last. I got email messages that the moderator had found my messages out of line, this did not surprise me.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6137293]Likely it is based on your MAC address. You need to use a new device to sign up, or to change your MAC address on your current device with a spoofer.
I have heard there is browser fingerprinting being done, based on window size, etc. Etc, so that might also be a trick. Switching that is needed.[/QUOTE]To Add; even though you have set up a VPN that replaces your IP address to a different location so to speak but it does not change your physical MAC address. That being said to keep it simple and very basic I don't think SA is accessing your MAC address because only web sites that can access MAC addresses, are sites that have you download a software component to interface with them, which allow the site to bypass rules; like gaming platforms ect ect. So basically, you have to give permission. The same goes if you DL an app to your phone.
As Far said, You might want to try by-passing Browser Fingerprinting which is simple or might want to try UA (User Agent) spoofing (google it). Warning; this is pretty advanced IT stuff just to get on online to find pussy.
Stay safe and have a great weekend!
[QUOTE=ShaniPie;6090268]She sent me pics, and she's stretching the definition of curvy almost as much as she stretches the elastic in some XL spanx. She will host in her apartment in Hampton. I didn't partake, I don't mind curvy, but I'm not into obese.[/QUOTE]I was with her recently and she is value for money we agreed on $$$ then somehow convinced to do $$. I got three blowjobs and one round of sex and she hung out for like 3 hours. Yeah she's a little thicker than some but hey for a fun nice times she's awesome Greek is on the table if you add more she will say no but she will give it up.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6135221]The standard response to such threats should be. That is, assuming that you are 100% sure that she is of legal age (you checked this out, right? She has tattoos, so you have to be 18 to get those, right?) or you saw her drivers license?
Anyway. The standard response when someone threatening to expose you to family, friends, spouse should be that, while what I did might not have been the nicest thing I've ever done, and could be embarrassing, it isn't illegal. However, blackmail is a Federal felony, and I happen to have all of the documentary evidence a prosecutor could ever want in your texts to convict you of that. So, if you would like to pursue this action, I won't just lay back and take it, I will be heading to the Department of Justice.[/QUOTE]Couple of points here. You do not have to be 18 to get a tattoo with parental consent. Additional if someone chooses to film another person in a state of undress, whether it's still images or a video, without that person's consent it most certainly is a crime.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6135221]The standard response to such threats should be. That is, assuming that you are 100% sure that she is of legal age (you checked this out, right? She has tattoos, so you have to be 18 to get those, right?) or you saw her drivers license?
Anyway. The standard response when someone threatening to expose you to family, friends, spouse should be that, while what I did might not have been the nicest thing I've ever done, and could be embarrassing, it isn't illegal. However, blackmail is a Federal felony, and I happen to have all of the documentary evidence a prosecutor could ever want in your texts to convict you of that. So, if you would like to pursue this action, I won't just lay back and take it, I will be heading to the Department of Justice.[/QUOTE]There is no way to be 100% sure now a days. You can buy fake drivers liecnes off wish from China that no where besides Bars and alcohol places really check. So even asking for I'd isn't enough to be sure it helps but it's not sure. Simplest defense is usually go to bar an order her a drink let the bar confirm her age. If they don't ask your oh well.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6137293]Likely it is based on your MAC address. You need to use a new device to sign up, or to change your MAC address on your current device with a spoofer.
I have heard there is browser fingerprinting being done, based on window size, etc. Etc, so that might also be a trick. Switching that is needed.[/QUOTE]This may require some technical skills, but set up a virtual machine. This can be done in both Windows and Mac. If you get banned, burn the VM, set up a new one. Nothing will come across, exepct your public IP, which if you use a VPN, can be changed easily.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/07f026fd-023f-4d89-9c32-62cba323ba1d[/URL]
Anyone know if she's legit? She's made some promises that seem just too good to be true.
[QUOTE=GeechieDan;6139452][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/07f026fd-023f-4d89-9c32-62cba323ba1d[/URL]
Anyone know if she's legit? She's made some promises that seem just too good to be true.[/QUOTE]Her photos look like they're taken in Medellin or elsewhere in Colombia. Given her profile references none of that background I would proceed very cautiously.