Korean Bar Reports

Hit Business, Jasmine, D'amour, Tomorrow, and Saigon Friday. Business busy but I just am not into the KBG's there for some reason. Jasmine is definitely "B" team so I moved on. D'amour was a full house. Tomorrow was like going to a class reunion. Nicky & Gina bartending with lots of lovelies around. Not a KB but finished the night at the VB Saigon. Kitty the Thai from Misty's shows up and made Jr happy.

As an aside, I don't know, but, a K-pop radio station just ain't my cup of tea unless they're giving KB news on the hour and maybe traffic reports on the backrooms?

Ss

Last night was slow most all town bars. Camelot, Moonflower, Business and Casino slow. Butterfly was not bad for them and seems to be busier these days. Ellie, Damour, Twilight, and EG also slow. Tommorrow was not bad busy with alot of LVBs there. BTW, my favorite play spot is the chair in the parkhng lot next to the back door. I love when they sit on your lap, LOL. LVBs was scared to sing Karaoke, lol. Bars STILL showing korean drammas on TVs. When will they learn? Oh wait, forgot LVBs love K drammas too, now radio? Lol

[QUOTE=Mogo Master; 1381217]New Korean music station on Fm 107. 5.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]Its all part of KORL, nothing special like listening to 102. 7 or something. Their jpop station on 97. 1 is pretty good though.

Aloha gents,

Just need to post about a ROB of a KBG. Recently sat with Samantha at Club Secret (next to Moonflower and Camelot) chick drinks HELLA FAST had them changing out her drink in 5 minutes or less. I shoulda known then but I was thinking with the little head and not the big one as she was grabbing Jr through my pants and telling me how much she likes me and how she wants to make me cum. So $$$.2 later she asks me if I wanted to go into "the room" at this point she is asking me as I am knuckle deep in her vagina (she put it there, not me.) so like a F*cking Sucker I say "Yes."

"the Room" costs me another $$$$$ at this point I'm spiraling out of control and I BETTER get some FS on this transaction or I'm going to be pissed. Once in the room she proceeds to suck on JR for about a minute, then gets a drink, then does something else, and then looks at her drink and says "oh no. I need more to drink." and mind you in "the room" the drinks are now $ a pop. And like a dumbass I say ". Sure." so $$$$ later I finally give up and woner when the hell are we going to F#ck. As I ask her this the whole situation turns sour and now all I'm about is SEX SEX SEX in her mind thats all I'm thinking about.

Now its more of an argument with your GF. And its such a turn on when you argue and try to bed a girl. At this point I am walking away after paying someone's mortgage but with a word of warning. If you ever go to secret and see a brown haired girl with blonde highlights and a tribal band tattoo on her right arm. If she's about 5' nothing and has nice full A's. RUN as fast as you can in the other direction! Your wallet will appreciate it.

Phreek

[QUOTE=Phreekstyle; 1381689]Aloha gents,

Just need to post about a ROB of a KBG. Recently sat with Samantha at Club Secret (next to Moonflower and Camelot) chick drinks HELLA FAST had them changing out her drink in 5 minutes or less. I shoulda known then but I was thinking with the little head and not the big one as she was grabbing Jr through my pants and telling me how much she likes me and how she wants to make me cum. So $$$.2 later she asks me if I wanted to go into "the room" at this point she is asking me as I am knuckle deep in her vagina (she put it there, not me.) so like a F*cking Sucker I say "Yes."

"the Room" costs me another $$$$$ at this point I'm spiraling out of control and I BETTER get some FS on this transaction or I'm going to be pissed. Once in the room she proceeds to suck on JR for about a minute, then gets a drink, then does something else, and then looks at her drink and says "oh no. I need more to drink." and mind you in "the room" the drinks are now $ a pop. And like a dumbass I say ". Sure." so $$$$ later I finally give up and woner when the hell are we going to F#ck. As I ask her this the whole situation turns sour and now all I'm about is SEX SEX SEX in her mind thats all I'm thinking about.

Now its more of an argument with your GF. And its such a turn on when you argue and try to bed a girl. At this point I am walking away after paying someone's mortgage but with a word of warning. If you ever go to secret and see a brown haired girl with blonde highlights and a tribal band tattoo on her right arm. If she's about 5' nothing and has nice full A's. RUN as fast as you can in the other direction! Your wallet will appreciate it.

Phreek[/QUOTE]Sounds like you got ripped off. I would send a written complaint to the LC to warn them not to mess with us.

[QUOTE=Mogo Master; 1381217]New Korean music station on Fm 107. 5.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]I've been listening to it for awhile now. Sometimes the songs are boring. I don't know when but is switches to a Japanese station once.

Did anyone know the KBG who died last Monday on Kaheka St near Don Q's? Heard she worked at CK, she worked in town before that. She had a son and lived in a condo on Kaheka st. Think it was the 13th or 14th floor. She was short with black hair in her early 40's. I forgot her name. She was heavy into gambling debt.

[QUOTE=Blacks;1382016]Sounds like you got ripped off. I would send a written complaint to the LC to warn them not to mess with us.[/QUOTE]First of all, to the guy that got ripped at the Vietnamese Bar Club Secret, my sympathies. Been there, done that (although not quite to those amounts unless you consider the cumulative). I've noticed that VB bars have a leaning to more blatant ripoffs than KB bars, however, this is just my experience and probably shouldn't be taken as the official "rule of thumb". Only thing I can say is let it go and move on. Plus, a huge Mahalo for reporting it to this forum. That was big time helpful to many of us and while it doesn't soften the hit you took, the report is valuable and useful intel.

Having said that, the above quote is about as useless and as dangerous advice I've seen in a while. It's on a similar level as advising to complain about gambling machine in the various bars, in that, if acted upon, it will only bring the evil eye of the LC, LE, FBI, down upon some of our favorite establishments. Plus, I could just see a written complaint to the LC "Hi my name is Mr. Monger and I tried to hire this VB for some FS or a least a nice BBBJ the other night but after I gave her money she refused to comply with my desires." Ok, what does this accomplish? Solicitation (yah I'm sure there's some official legal term for it but it's the same law that applies if you try to hire a prostitute). If you send that type of letter you are signing your own admission of guilt not to mention the LC may even bust the Club just cause they can.

Don't do it. Just don't ever deal with the ROB VBG again. It's all about economics. The less she makes the sooner she'll be gone.

The above quoted advice, my friend, if acted upon would only succeed in opening Pandora's Box (and she ain't too pretty).

Ss

[QUOTE=Shipshape; 1382377]First of all, to the guy that got ripped at the Vietnamese Bar Club Secret, my sympathies. Been there, done that (although not quite to those amounts unless you consider the cumulative). I've noticed that VB bars have a leaning to more blatant ripoffs than KB bars, however, this is just my experience and probably shouldn't be taken as the official "rule of thumb". Only thing I can say is let it go and move on. Plus, a huge Mahalo for reporting it to this forum. That was big time helpful to many of us and while it doesn't soften the hit you took, the report is valuable and useful intel.

Having said that, the above quote is about as useless and as dangerous advice I've seen in a while. It's on a similar level as advising to complain about gambling machine in the various bars, in that, if acted upon, it will only bring the evil eye of the LC, LE, FBI, down upon some of our favorite establishments. Plus, I could just see a written complaint to the LC "Hi my name is Mr. Monger and I tried to hire this VB for some FS or a least a nice BBBJ the other night but after I gave her money she refused to comply with my desires." Ok, what does this accomplish? Solicitation (yah I'm sure there's some official legal term for it but it's the same law that applies if you try to hire a prostitute). If you send that type of letter you are signing your own admission of guilt not to mention the LC may even bust the Club just cause they can.

Don't do it. Just don't ever deal with the ROB VBG again. It's all about economics. The less she makes the sooner she'll be gone.

The above quoted advice, my friend, if acted upon would only succeed in opening Pandora's Box (and she ain't too pretty).

Ss[/QUOTE]How else will you stop it, its all about customer service. What they did is a crime. I've done it and the inspectors paid them a visit! Like I said send a warning. This dude spent over 5 bills. I'd feel like an ass if it happen to me, do you work there?

[QUOTE=Blacks;1382023]Did anyone know the KBG who died last Monday on Kaheka St near Don Q's? Heard she worked at CK, she worked in town before that. She had a son and lived in a condo on Kaheka st. Think it was the 13th or 14th floor. She was short with black hair in her early 40's. I forgot her name. She was heavy into gambling debt.[/QUOTE]The KBG that you are referring to was Mina, a long time daytime / nighttime bartenderess who worked at various bars in the Kapiolani & Sheridan area. I knew her for about 8 years, very nice girl when sober but like most KBG a totally different person when had too much Neko. She had a gambling problem but did not know that it was to that extreme.

Very Sad Ending to a KBG.

[QUOTE=Akusan; 1382760]The KBG that you are referring to was Mina, a long time daytime / nighttime bartenderess who worked at various bars in the Kapiolani & Sheridan area. I knew her for about 8 years, very nice girl when sober but like most KBG a totally different person when had too much Neko. She had a gambling problem but did not know that it was to that extreme.

Very Sad Ending to a KBG.[/QUOTE]Anyone have the link on star advertiser?

[QUOTE=Blacks;1382633]How else will you stop it, its all about customer service. What they did is a crime. I've done it and the inspectors paid them a visit! Like I said send a warning. This dude spent over 5 bills. I'd feel like an ass if it happen to me, do you work there?[/QUOTE]The best way to stop it imo is the warn other mongers, period. The Tactics thread is actually a way of teaching / help mongers learn of the dangers like this, especially for newbies and LVBs. We CANNOT CHANGE KBGs, PERIOD! We can only change OURSELVES and let the KBGs react to OUR changes. I LIKE KBs, and enjoy it but I understand the risks and dangers. Its not rocket science or difficult / risky / scary imo if you can simply say NO! EVERYONE KNOWS what goes on in hostess bars including LE and LC. Some of them are customers TOO! Live and learn is the best teacher along with taking advice from others who have made the mistakes most of us have. BTW, I'm curious as to what you told LC in your complaint. I just don't want unwanted and unneeded attention focused on our hobby by people wanting to change us sukebe guys, hehe.

[QUOTE=Akusan; 1382760]The KBG that you are referring to was Mina, a long time daytime / nighttime bartenderess who worked at various bars in the Kapiolani & Sheridan area. I knew her for about 8 years, very nice girl when sober but like most KBG a totally different person when had too much Neko. She had a gambling problem but did not know that it was to that extreme.

Very Sad Ending to a KBG.[/QUOTE]RIP, I know there have been others and will be others and not just BG's.

[QUOTE=Blacks;1382016]Sounds like you got ripped off. I would send a written complaint to the LC to warn them not to mess with us.[/QUOTE]I can definitely understand the revenge factor. I'm not a huge KB / VB monger so fortunately have never had this experience. But I have felt cheated at a few massage places that advertise for massage and just offer FS. Those times I've been tempted to complain with the threat of law for misleading customers to thinking that they were actually trained masseuses. Still, I'm not sure what that would have changed. LC probably already knows about those places and have some deals or connections with the bars and I doubt much would come out of it. But I guess it never hurts to try.

Whew! The girls must really be hurting. They've gotten to the bottom of their text list today and even sent me some (started at around 4pm). Course it could have been them just using a master mailing list. Stayed home with nothing else to report.

With regards to the bar ripoffs and other comments, I figure I will reserve those to a more appropriate thread of tactics and discussions.

Ss