Supereloquent's Reports - Philadelphia

Great report Super. You handled the situation well and did the right thing. I met Jenn early on and bought the "tuition" story because she was fresh and bright and so unlike the usual Ave girl. I haven't seen her in a while and can clearly see it was all a ruse. She's probably the typical suburban girl who gets caught up in the Ave lifestyle but still thinks she's better and should get rewarded more than everyone else (I call it "ASS"; the Alexus Street Syndrome). Such hubris. I should have suspected something when StreetSteve reported that she had "lost" her cell phone. Same old story; different day and girl. She's a good looking, intelligent, sweet girl who might be on the brink of the great decline. What a shame to witness. The pimp factor seems to validate it all. The independents, e.g. Crazy Nichole, Liz, etc., are way cooler and know exactly where they stand which is much more pleasant to deal with. Again, thanks for the update.

Be Safe,

La Chic

Great report Super. I also recently met Jenn and came away with similiar mixed feelings as to see her again or not. She seems to have been taught all the same lines and stories that we have experienced with a certain group of girls that share the same house and pimp. Only difference with me was she told me up front her price and I decided to try her despite the higher fee because of her rep here. Everything that has been said about her is true and she provides a great date. As you stated, she is charging Internet prices on the Ave. If she moved to BP she could easily get that and no one would complain. As for the drug issues, I suppose it comes with the territory, it seems that they all do it eventually is they stay in that area. She told me that she kicked the habit, but again that is another standard story we hear all the time from these girls. Who knows?
Bottem line....Getting past the price, she is probably the best on the Ave.

[QUOTE=Fbtom]Excellent report SuperE! Your experience became evident as we read about the shenanigans. You were a gentleman to the end and handled it well.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Tom. I wasn't trying to be a bad guy and I am certainly not a cheapskate, but I know what is what on the Ave. Maybe I was too nice and she thought she had a sucker she could play. I don't know. One thing is for sure: she has her little act down (or thinks she does) from tough street girl, to innocent little student, to frightened pimp's property, to stone cold silent treatment and finally to sweetness and light, see ya' next time. She might even have been convincing by sticking to one personality, but all those shifts without a clutch stripped her gears.

[QUOTE=Permanent Wood]Wow, great report SuperE! You held firm at the end, that makes me so proud to read and learn from your experiences.

Hot looking chick though.[/QUOTE]

Thanks.

Yes, she is a hot looking chick and with a personality and sexual skills to match. She just needs to learn how to deal with a good customer, because I am sure there are a lot of guys who might just have stiffed her and left her stranded. As I said, I would repeat if she got her head on straight about fee realities on the Ave.

[QUOTE=Texaco Tim]Great report Super.[/QUOTE]

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Texaco Tim] I also recently met Jenn and came away with similiar mixed feelings as to see her again or not. She seems to have been taught all the same lines and stories that we have experienced with a certain group of girls that share the same house and pimp.[/QUOTE]

It was also clear to me that this was "pimp-taught" acting for a SW to make more money. She was actually a good actress if she could have stuck with one story and made it believable. As soon as she started throwing me the role change-ups she was dead in the water.

[QUOTE=Texaco Tim] Only difference with me was she told me up front her price and I decided to try her despite the higher fee because of her rep here. Everything that has been said about her is true and she provides a great date. [/QUOTE]

My usual approach is not to mention price until she does. That works for the vast majority of the time, especially when I am much more than fair on compensation. This one time that it was a little rocky won't encourage me to reinvent the wheel on my approach, but it does show that there can very occasionally be a downside.

[QUOTE=Texaco Tim] As you stated, she is charging Internet prices on the Ave. If she moved to BP she could easily get that and no one would complain.[/QUOTE]

She is one SW among several on the Ave that are BP quality and probably worth BP rates. That is one thing I like about the K. I love a bargain. However, when I go to the tent sale at Lord and Taylor, I don't expect to be paying full price.

[QUOTE=Texaco Tim]As for the drug issues, I suppose it comes with the territory, it seems that they all do it eventually is they stay in that area. [/QUOTE]

This is true, especially for pimps' girls. Even if a girl doesn't start out that way, drugs are a way to get control over the girl, so, almost every girl who is with a pimp, eventually seems to become a drug user. It is what it is. Drugs are the main reason there are plentiful SWs on the K.

[QUOTE=Texaco Tim]She told me that she kicked the habit, but again that is another standard story we hear all the time from these girls. Who knows?[/QUOTE]

We should make a little book of standard SW lies: Taking 5 to 10 years off their ages; "I used to use drugs but I am in rehab";"Those marks (or that bandage)? Those are insect bites"; "I don't use a pimp"; " "Sure, I swallow"; "I am the best";"I lost my phone (or someone stole it, or it ran out of minutes, or I am getting new one tomorrow, or the dog ate it?"); and my absolute favorite of all time SW lie:[b]"I don't do this much."[/b]

[QUOTE=Texaco Tim]Bottem line....Getting past the price, she is probably the best on the Ave.[/QUOTE]

She is very good. There is no question about that. THE best? We are fortunate in having at least 7 to 10 girls on the Ave IMHO that I would repeat any time I spotted them . And I am more inclined to seek variety, so that says a LOT about them. ;)

B Malibu from Orange County graciously recently provided us with these photos of "Ethie"

[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109609]Ethie in the Car[/url]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109610]Ethie's Booty in Her Black Short-Shorts[/url]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109611]Ethie Showing Us Her Sexy Outfit[/url]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1058654&postcount=4750]B Malibu's Report on Ethie[/url]

I am continually amazed at the hot way most of the SWs in Southern CA dress as compared to the usual "blend-in-jeans-and-sneakers" approach of the SWs in Philly. I think I understand the Philly issues; they don't want to stand out too much and be evident to LE. However, that's not very relevant when you actually think about it. Any rookie patrolman on his first day on the K would be able to pick out every SW, and every hot SW corner, after one shift. So, I really think the smarter SWs would use the better marketing approach of Southern CA, and dress in sexy outfits, short skirts, heels, whatever. It's not like LE doesn't already know who they are based on where they are and their street behaviors. Maybe it's a cultural thing, or that CA is so glitzy and influenced by "Hollywood," or just the fact that CA LE have bigger fish to fry, or maybe most of the strolls aren't directly drug-related like on the K. Whatever the reasons for the differences, it remains a head-scratcher to me, because there are some girls on the Ave who dress sexy and in a dress or short skirt, and they seem to get picked up a lot faster than others, all other things being equal. It would seem to me basic SW 101 to have some curb appeal.

Its easy. If you like the picture. Look at it. If not do not click on it.
Same with the radio. Do not like what you hear. CHANGE THE STATION

for most of us. PLEASE KEEP POSTING PICTURES> THEY ARE GREAT and you cannot beat the old saying. A picture is worth a 1000 words. In your cases maybe 1 million words with as hot as a few of these girls are.

My 2 cents worth but with the current economy its about one 10th of one cent.

[QUOTE=Amp Guide]Its easy. If you like the picture. Look at it. If not do not click on it.
Same with the radio. Do not like what you hear. CHANGE THE STATION[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I never understood people who complain to a radio station about their programming. That's why God gave you fingers and a tuning dial (or, in this case, a keyboard and a mouse)!

[QUOTE=Amp Guide]for most of us. PLEASE KEEP POSTING PICTURES> THEY ARE GREAT and you cannot beat the old saying. A picture is worth a 1000 words. In your cases maybe 1 million words with as hot as a few of these girls are.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. I intend to do just that. Some are hotter than others, and, let's face facts, we are dealing mostly with drug addicted SWs on the Ave, but we certainly are blessed with our share of gems in that regard here in Philly.

[QUOTE=Amp Guide]My 2 cents worth but with the current economy its about one 10th of one cent.[/QUOTE] Congress keeps spending money it doesn't have; the Treasury keeps printing money and issuing debt to cover the tab; the world is trying to sell its US Dollars; and, the value of the Dollar is declining and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. In enough time the Dollar will be like Confederate money after the Civil War. We can't dig an economic hole to China, even if that's who has bought most of our T-bills and to whom we owe the most money. :D

[QUOTE=La Chic]Great report Super. You handled the situation well and did the right thing.[/QUOTE]

Thanks.

[QUOTE=La Chic] I met Jenn early on and bought the "tuition" story because she was fresh and bright and so unlike the usual Ave girl. I haven't seen her in a while and can clearly see it was all a ruse. She's probably the typical suburban girl who gets caught up in the Ave lifestyle but still thinks she's better and should get rewarded more than everyone else (I call it "ASS"; the Alexus Street Syndrome). Such hubris. I should have suspected something when StreetSteve reported that she had "lost" her cell phone. Same old story; different day and girl. She's a good looking, intelligent, sweet girl who might be on the brink of the great decline. What a shame to witness. The pimp factor seems to validate it all.[/QUOTE]

Pimps seem to screw things up for us with very few exceptions. They are middle men who contribute nothing of value, add costs and place upward pressure on pricing.

I think you are right about the "ASS" syndrome. Some girls read their press clippings in here and believe they can coast, rest on their laurels, and provide lesser services for higher prices. While I haven't experienced this personally, there have been some recent reports that the "ASS" syndrome seems to be affecting Aundrea and Erin. Alexus, Aundrea and Erin work for the same pimp. Maybe that it is just a coincidence. Or, maybe it is reflective of something else going on there. It will remain to be seen. However, these girls would be well served to remember that a good reputation can be soiled in a hurry by a bad attitude, bad service and price hustling.

[QUOTE=La Chic]The independents, e.g. Crazy Nichole, Liz, etc., are way cooler and know exactly where they stand which is much more pleasant to deal with. [/QUOTE]

There are many alternatives on the Ave with girls who are good-looking, pleasant and realistic with their pricing. Girls not willing to understand this will lose regular monger customers who are well informed.

[QUOTE=La Chic]Again, thanks for the update.[/QUOTE]

You are most welcome. It was my pleasure

[QUOTE=La Chic]Be Safe,

La Chic[/QUOTE]

You also, my friend.

I took the liberty of responding to your questions since your post mentioned my name.

Firstly, welcome to the Forum, Robert10. You have already contributed some valuable intel and pics. Thank you for that.

One tiny suggestion: you can probably flip your pics so that they aren't lying on their side (and straining our necks to see them, LOL), with the pic software that comes with your computer. That is a very commonly available feature. If not, you can download the following free pic editing software: [url=http://www.freewarefiles.com/Image-Forge-V_program_309.html]Image Forge[/url] and [url=http://www.gimp.org/downloads/]Gimp.[/url]

[QUOTE= Robert10]I've been at the mongering fun for the past month. I've met a lot of nice girls and some not so wonderful ones. I have a few questions if someone wouldn't mind answering. I've gotten the "you have to finish soon" routine after about 5 minutes. When I read some of SE's reports, it seems like he expects 10-15 minute minimum of BBBJ. How long is too long of a time?[/QUOTE]

Everyone has different standards, approaches and expectations. I like to have several cups with a girl. If I am horny, and she is good, the first cup might only take a few minutes. The second cup might take longer, but, that again, is dependent upon how good she is. I always believe that it takes as long as it takes. If the girl is impatient, or wants to hurry you, then my suggestion is either to not repeat with her, give her instructions on how you like it, or hope she learns to suck cock better (good luck with that last one.)

[QUOTE= Robert10]Also, I have been asked by the girls to buy them a meal. These meals have ranged from a few items off the dollar menu to $15 dinners. What is the "norm" in what is expected for a meal? I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]

That depends on what you did, and how good she was. I wouldn't be inclined to buy a SW a 15 dollar meal if all she gave me was a quickie BJ no matter how good it was, but maybe if she gave me a great FS or several excellent cups of BBBJ. It's always a judgment call IMHO. There are no hard and fast rules.

[QUOTE= Robert10]Donna has been well reported by lots of people. I had the luck of seeing her in the daytime and quickly picked her up. She is a very sweet and easy going person. I would recommend her.[/QUOTE]

I haven't seen Donna around but your pics of her look attractive and I would be inclined to give her a shot. I have flipped Donna's pics upright for you here. One of the difficulties you may have faced is that you took them on a cell phone, and the format saved didn't allow for flipping the file easily. I converted the file formats for the pics you took to JPEG which allowed them to be more easily manipulated and flipped with standard pic editing software.

[QUOTE=Robert10]I loved the report and the pic.

I will definitely have to look for her next time I'm out.

Looking forward to seeing more pics of her![/QUOTE]

Thanks.

There is much to anticipate and will be forthcoming: Jenn prancing topless and in her frilly thong undies, dressing-up with my kinky photo props (cat ears, lacy black gloves and socks, lacy black boy-cut panties, handcuffs, dog-bone gag, ball gag, sucking a pacifier, shocked look at my big clamps and holding and kissing the cum piggie), nude (including spread wide and doggie), kissing, licking and sucking my cock, and some nice money shots, including one INCREDIBLY HOT big thick sticky cum waterfall string from her lips to my dick!

Jenn in her dress, topless, topless in her panties and showing her thong.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]Jenn in her dress, topless, topless in her panties and showing her thong.[/QUOTE]

She is MODEL material :-) How tall is she?

Cheers

TM

[QUOTE=TexasMonger]She is MODEL material :-) How tall is she?

Cheers

TM[/QUOTE]I didn't ask her, but my guesstimate would be about 5 feet 7-8 or so. Maybe others who have also dated her could corroborate a height estimate.

She certainly is photogenic enough to be a model: she is pretty, thin, tall and she didn't require much coaching on posing and had a warm and natural facial expression.

I thought she was quite attractively thin, and I loved her cute perky tits and nipples and that tiny round ass. Plus, her pussy was so fuckin' TIGHT. There was no way I could have gotten in that without plenty of lube. And, she loved to have it banged hard.

Jenn topless and in the mirror: in her thong; in black panties, lacy black gloves and socks and cat ears.

Damn this girl is on cloud 9. I bet she kept falling asleep while giving you head. Those eyes tell the story of her life as a junkie. I have personaly seen them many times on other sw's.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109297[/url]

Misfit

Great report SuperE. It seems the Street has changed Jenn. That is what I think anyway. Not many straight girls can go in and out of this scene unchanged. I remember her telling me that guys offer hard drugs to her all the time. I noticed that in Hunters picture she is smoking a cigarette. That's not the Jenn I once knew.

As far as the money hustle is conserned, forewarned is forearmed, and we need to thank you for that. Also we get to see her naked for free. That's no small thing. When some of your critics start getting so fucking nit picky, I wish they would remember just how much you contribute to this forum.

Because some of us look for a Gem there will always work for her. However given her new lifestyle one day soon the "bloom of youth" will leave her, and she will no longer be a Gem. Then she will be giving 20. 00 BBBJ car dates, and stating she will be in rehab next week- just like the rest of them

Just how did I get to be so life affirming anyway :)


[b]Street[/b]

I usually don't like the very skinny types, but when they're as pretty as this one I'd make an exception. She is a beauty. Too bad in about 6 months she will look emaciated and her eyes will probably be sunken in her head and she probably won't have as nice a smile. I hope not, though. But you know how junkies deteriorate rapidly.



[QUOTE=Supereloquent]Jenn topless and in the mirror: in her thong; in black panties, lacy black gloves and socks and cat ears.[/QUOTE]

I'll be visiting Philly this week and have one big question, where is the ave?

Feel free to PM, thanks!

[QUOTE=Misfit]Damn this girl is on cloud 9. I bet she kept falling asleep while giving you head. Those eyes tell the story of her life as a junkie. I have personaly seen them many times on other sw's.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109297[/url]

Misfit[/QUOTE]

Ashley DOES look a bit wasted, but I have seen a lot worse.Take a look at my old and new reviews and pics of "Sleepyhead Carol:"

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The first time I dated Carol she didn't open her eyes once the entire date. She would wake up periodically and give me great head, and then nod off again. She said it was because she was taking Xannies, but, who knows. It seemed more like junkie behavior to me. As an update, these days Carol is much more awake, but doesn't suck cock nearly as well as before. Go figure.

Ashley self-admittedly is a coke junkie. She keeps her eyes open but they do tend to have that far away stare. Believe it or not, she gets completely normal looking when discussing a subject of interest. She was fascinated, for example, when discussing the book I am writing, which will include my experiences on the K, and whether or not she would be in it. She also is very lucid doing a BBBJ, which she does a little above average. She is like many younger girls on the Ave: she could use some cock sucking lessons from a MILF. MILFs are almost universally excellent in this area. Practice most definitely must make perfect in this case.

[QUOTE=Whenwhen]I usually don't like the very skinny types, but when they're as pretty as this one I'd make an exception. She is a beauty.[/QUOTE]

Yes, Jenn is very pretty. That can make up for a lot. I don't mind skinny. I don't even mind small tits, or a relatively flat chest, as long as the girl isn't concentration-camp-wafer-thin, where you can see the ribs protruding, and the stomach is almost concave. Jenn had more the shape of a model, tall and thin, but attractively so. Her tits were small, but perky, and she had great pointy nipples. She had a tiny bottom, but it was deliciously and roundly shaped, and her pussy was shaved, pretty and tight as a drum. I have seen prettier faces on thin SWs: Olivia in Camden and Rachel from the K are two prime examples:

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However, Jenn had a very good body for fucking IMHO. Olivia was too thin and her body was ravaged by signs of drug abuse, but she gives an absolutely outstanding BBBJ, and still was a good spinner fuck, especially doggie. Rachel had a better body than Olivia, and was also a better spinner fuck. Jenn had the best body of the three for my taste, but the other two had prettier faces. Olivia, Jenn and Rachel had very different fucking styles, but all were very pretty, and terrific lays with nice and very tight cu*nts. However, even though they were all good in their own individual ways, I would have to say that my opinion of the ranking of fucking talents, from best on down, would be Jenn, Rachel and then Olivia.

[QUOTE=Whenwhen]Too bad in about 6 months she will look emaciated and her eyes will probably be sunken in her head and she probably won't have as nice a smile. I hope not, though. But you know how junkies deteriorate rapidly.[/QUOTE] We have seen girls deteriorate from drug use, both in body and attitude. However, some manage to survive, maintain their looks, and be good providers. The K is a revolving door regardless. I had mentioned previously that, of the 49 SW encounters I experienced and reported on for 2009, I had only seen 4 of them around in the past 3 months.

[QUOTE=Tha X Facta][b]De gustibus non est disputandum[/b][/QUOTE]

All I have to say in reply is: [b]Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem. [/b] :D

[QUOTE=M Neiman]I'll be visiting Philly this week and have one big question, where is the ave?

Feel free to PM, thanks![/QUOTE]

There is no need to PM. It isn't some big secret. "The Ave" or "the K" refers to Kensington Avenue, which runs from Erie/Torresdale Avenue in the north end to Front Street on the south end. Some time ago I created a SW Stroll Map Thread and Fbtom was kind enough to lend his map-making software skills to making the maps readable and consistent. Here is a link to the maps for:

[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=892488&postcount=6]"The Ave" in Philly[/url]

[QUOTE=Street Steve]Great report SuperE.[/QUOTE]

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Street Steve]It seems the Street has changed Jenn. That is what I think anyway. Not many straight girls can go in and out of this scene unchanged. I remember her telling me that guys offer hard drugs to her all the time. I noticed that in Hunters picture she is smoking a cigarette. That's not the Jenn I once knew.[/QUOTE]

I guess it would be difficult for anyone not to be changed by turning tricks on the K. Some girls, like Jenn, apparently make a very rapid transition from relative sweetness to a hard-core disposition. This seems to be even more likely when a pimp is involved.

However, there are SWs on the Ave who manage to keep a pleasant attitude, maintain their looks, remain realistic about compensation and deliver excellent service. Many are "independents," but a good number of them also have pimps. Which pimp a girl has is another factor. Some place more pressure on their girls than others. This may result in some short-term earnings benefits, but eventually smart and knowledgeable regular mongers avoid the girls who press pricing too far above what the market should bear, regardless how attractive they are or how good they are.

[QUOTE=Street Steve]As far as the money hustle is conserned, forewarned is forearmed, and we need to thank you for that.[/QUOTE]

I always think a girl's attitude about compensation is as important as anything else about her in terms of sharing information that is useful.

[QUOTE=Street Steve]Also we get to see her naked for free. That's no small thing. When some of your critics start getting so fucking nit picky, I wish they would remember just how much you contribute to this forum.[/QUOTE]

It is not within the nature of most to value very much. It is far easier for many to detract and complain than appreciate.

[QUOTE=Street Steve]Because some of us look for a Gem there will always work for her. However given her new lifestyle one day soon the "bloom of youth" will leave her, and she will no longer be a Gem. Then she will be giving 20. 00 BBBJ car dates, and stating she will be in rehab next week- just like the rest of them[/QUOTE]

Most probably.

[QUOTE=Street Steve]Just how did I get to be so life affirming anyway :)[/QUOTE]

Yes, Street, you are absolutely so CHEERY. :D

Jenn close-ups and topless and with: black boy-cut panties, lacy black gloves and socks, cat ears, sporting a flogger, with handcuffs and with a dog-bone gag.

Hey Super,

Glad you finally got to experience Jenn. She is a wonderful date no doubt. I wish I could have warned you about her sales approach however I didn't experience anything on this level. Then again I was only with her for a while so the pimp pressure didn't come into play. She's not and was never {at least not recently} a student. She told me the same story on our first date. She admitted to me on our last one she works for a pimp and like all girls has a quota. She also admitted to me she shoots heroin but only does two bags a day.She's already sliding and may be worth avoiding in the future. The first time I dated her it went smooth as silk. I called her and met her at an agreed upon spot. She was right on time. Two weeks later after many calls and at least an hour of waiting I picked her up and did our thing. The service was still terrific. The long wait and admission she's with a pimp tells me she's sliding fast. She seems like a sweet girl so hopefully she wises up quickly. While I waited for her I actually gave up on her and picked up yes another Jenn near the Dunking Doughnuts near Erie. She's a red head . very pretty, smoking body, about 30, 5'7, with a crooked nose. We did a car date. She is too be avoided big time. Her BBBJ was one of the worst I ever had. She started out turbo speed and didn't slow down even when I told her this style of sucking won't work. After about 2-3 minutes the are you going to cum started. I bagged it at that juncture, dropped her off and called Jenn again. Fortunately she was finally ready. I'm sure she was waiting for her pharmacist to arrive with her meds.

[QUOTE=Trashed201]Hey Super,

Glad you finally got to experience Jenn. She is a wonderful date no doubt. I wish I could have warned you about her sales approach however I didn't experience anything on this level. Then again I was only with her for a while so the pimp pressure didn't come into play.[/QUOTE]

She was a wonderful date except for the aggressive attempt to up-sell me on the fee at the end. I took her for a long indoor date. Apparently the time pressure with her pimp is not only the duration at the hotel, but the time traveling to and from. I took her to a relatively nice place which is a little further from the K than a quick trip to the Carlyle or a 10 spot house might be. A time constraint is just another reason not to appreciate girls with pimps.

[QUOTE=Trashed201] She's not and was never {at least not recently} a student. She told me the same story on our first date. She admitted to me on our last one she works for a pimp and like all girls has a quota. She also admitted to me she shoots heroin but only does two bags a day.[/QUOTE]

I was suspicious of the "student" story from the beginning. Who has to get back for classes at 3 in the afternoon as a full-time student? The bandage on her ass gave me further suspicion of her drug use. Her story was completely blown when I dropped her off "for class" near a prime drug-copping neighborhood. Maybe she tells every first date that student line in order to seem better than the other girls on the Ave and be worth more money. She shows no physical (other than the bandage) or behavioral signs of it yet, but the use of heroin isn't something you can keep "under control" very well.

[QUOTE=Trashed201]She's already sliding and may be worth avoiding in the future. The first time I dated her it went smooth as silk. I called her and met her at an agreed upon spot. She was right on time. Two weeks later after many calls and at least an hour of waiting I picked her up and did our thing. The service was still terrific. The long wait and admission she's with a pimp tells me she's sliding fast.[/QUOTE]

I won't wait for a girl longer than 15 minutes. I figure that my time is just as valuable as hers, and, if she is going to show up whenever she feels like it, then why bother to set an appointment time?

[QUOTE=Trashed201]She seems like a sweet girl so hopefully she wises up quickly.[/QUOTE] It's hard to "wise-up" while being with a pimp and shooting heroin, but we can only hope. She seems intelligent, can have a pleasant attitude when she wants to, and sucks and fucks like a champ, so IMHO she would be a lot better off as an independent.

[QUOTE=Trashed201] While I waited for her I actually gave up on her and picked up yes another Jenn near the Dunking Doughnuts near Erie. She's a red head . very pretty, smoking body, about 30, 5'7, with a crooked nose. We did a car date. She is too be avoided big time. Her BBBJ was one of the worst I ever had. She started out turbo speed and didn't slow down even when I told her this style of sucking won't work. After about 2-3 minutes the are you going to cum started. I bagged it at that juncture, dropped her off and called Jenn again.[/QUOTE]

I hate the SWs who think that if they suck you faster you will cum faster, and then try to hurry you verbally on top of that. "Redheaded Jenn" sounds like someone to be avoided. It's too bad you didn't get a pic for ID.

[QUOTE=Trashed201] Fortunately she was finally ready. I'm sure she was waiting for her pharmacist to arrive with her meds.[/QUOTE]

The girls on dope always seem to need a fix right before a date. At least she didn't want you to fund it beforehand.

Here are some more recent street examples of how differently many CA SWs dress as compared to Philly, courtesy of B Malibu:

[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109774]OMG...Look at Those Traffic Stopping Legs![/url]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109773]Gotta Love the Sexy "School Girl" Outfit[/url]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109772]Heels, Jean Short-Shorts, Puffy Shoulders...Works for ME![/url]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1059636&postcount=4758]The Entire Post and All the Pics[/url]

I HAVE to believe that any of the above outfits would improve pick-up times here in Philly. As a monger, I selfishly want SWs to be out as long as possible so I have a chance to look them over before deciding. As a business professional, my brain is screaming: our girls need to take SW Marketing 101! :D

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]Jenn close-ups and topless and with: black boy-cut panties, lacy black gloves and socks, cat ears, sporting a flogger, with handcuffs and with a dog-bone gag.[/QUOTE]


You keep them coming and coming. Great pictures.

[QUOTE=Malodr]You keep them coming and coming. Great pictures.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. Did you and your "wing-man" have that weekend fuck-fest with Aundrea yet?

There are a lot more pics to "cum," including more pics of Jenn with my kinky photo props, close-ups, topless, nude, spread wide, kissing/licking/sucking my cock, money shots and THE most amazing pic of a thick gooey waterfall of my cum from her lips to my dick!

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]Thanks. Did you and your "wing-man" have that weekend fuck-fest with Aundrea yet?

There are a lot more pics to "cum," including more pics of Jenn with my kinky photo props, close-ups, topless, nude, spread wide, kissing/licking/sucking my cock, money shots and THE most amazing pic of a thick gooey waterfall of my cum from her lips to my dick![/QUOTE]


He never found her. Have you done her lately?

[QUOTE=Malodr]He never found her. Have you done her lately?[/QUOTE]

I haven't "done" her since my last reported session and pictorial here. However, she is just a ring-a-ding away. It's not that I don't find her worth multiple and often visitation. I am just a variety-craving DOG of a monger, and there is absolutely so much talent on the Ave and in Camden that I have not yet experienced, even if I have to TOFTT every now and again.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]I haven't "done" her since my last reported session and pictorial here. However, she is just a ring-a-ding away. It's not that I don't find her worth multiple and often visitation. I am just a variety-craving DOG of a monger, and there is absolutely so much talent on the Ave and in Camden that I have not yet experienced, even if I have to TOFTT every now and again.[/QUOTE]


There are times when I go out in my area and see 3 or 4 new ones that I must try as well.


So many girls, so little time.

[QUOTE=Malodr]There are times when I go out in my area and see 3 or 4 new ones that I must try as well.

So many girls, so little time.[/QUOTE]

I already have a fuck buddy and she is a pain in the ass, LOL.

When I pay for it, I want something new and completely different, not the same old same old. There is just something about the interactive chemistry between people that is unique from one to the other. Plus, I love the entire ambiance of a brand new "conquest." I would stick with the tail I can get for free, but it takes too much damn time and work to develop a lot of variety. My other alternative is to just whack off in the shower with a cast of thousands mentally available for anything I might desire. As Ray Romano so aptly and memorably put it in his stand-up comedy routine: "Soap is such a sl*ut." :D

Supere,

I'm changing the ASS (Alexus Street Syndrome) to PUSS (Prostitute Up Sell Syndrome). I'm sure you could definitely think up a couple more that might be more appropriate. LOL

Be Safe,

La Chic

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]Here are some more recent street examples of how differently many CA SWs dress as compared to Philly, courtesy of B Malibu:

[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109774]OMG...Look at Those Traffic Stopping Legs![/url]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109773]Gotta Love the Sexy "School Girl" Outfit[/url]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=109772]Heels, Jean Short-Shorts, Puffy Shoulders...Works for ME![/url]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1059636&postcount=4758]The Entire Post and All the Pics[/url]

I HAVE to believe that any of the above outfits would improve pick-up times here in Philly. As a monger, I selfishly want SWs to be out as long as possible so I have a chance to look them over before deciding. As a business professional, my brain is screaming: our girls need to take SW Marketing 101! :D[/QUOTE]Lmao. I some times drive up and down the ave 10 times before I decide. Then I have to find her again.

Jenn topless; wearing "FUCK ME" choker necklace; with ball gag in her mouth; afraid of my big clamp; sucking on her pacifier; nude; kissing the "cum piggie;" kissing and licking my cock.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]Jenn topless; wearing "FUCK ME" choker necklace; with ball gag in her mouth; afraid of my big clamp; sucking on her pacifier; nude; kissing the "cum piggie;" kissing and licking my cock.[/QUOTE]Man, I love this chick.

Life is good, dude.

[QUOTE=Bosworth]Man, I love this chick.

Life is good, dude.[/QUOTE]

She is pretty, built like a fashion model and poses like one, and sucks and fucks you to DEATH! What's not to love?

Now, if she could only shed her pimp, stop shooting dope and learn the realities of pricing on the K, she would be fucking PERFECT!

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]Jenn topless; wearing "FUCK ME" choker necklace; with ball gag in her mouth; afraid of my big clamp; sucking on her pacifier; nude; kissing the "cum piggie;" kissing and licking my cock.[/QUOTE]Simply gorgeous! Treat her like a queen, gents.

Be Safe,

AC