BBQ and fight thread

[QUOTE=Norsem;2904297]The bigger problem is as long as we (in this country) fight "trafficking" the way we do we'll never know who is really being trafficked and who is being "trafficked" under a definition made up by politicians or people who want money for their non profit. All I can say is I'm pretty sure the % of girls who are really being trafficked is between 10-90%. Honestly though, if the girl isn't of age its disgusting and I try to steer clear of all pimps, managers, on site bodyguards or drivers or even "boyfriends" who like to stay involved in the business. I don't like it.[/QUOTE]According to the National Institute of Justice the US Government defines human trafficking as:

*Sex trafficking in which a commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud, or coercion, or in which the person induced to perform such act has not attained 18 years of age.

*The recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, or obtaining of a person for labor or services, through the use of force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of subjection to involuntary servitude, peonage, debt bondage, or slavery.

[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2904675]According to the National Institute of Justice the US Government defines human trafficking as:

*Sex trafficking in which a commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud, or coercion, or in which the person induced to perform such act has not attained 18 years of age.

*The recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, or obtaining of a person for labor or services, through the use of force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of subjection to involuntary servitude, peonage, debt bondage, or slavery.[/QUOTE]Yes but therein is part of the problem with these definitions. Many state and local LEO and non-profits now define giving drugs to, or withholding drugs from an addict is "coercion" if the sole purpose of the providing or withholding is induce them to have sex for money and give the money to the pimp. Ok, most of us probably think that amounts to some level of asshole, if not quite as big as beating the girls or threatening their families. However many take it even further and a pimp convincing a girl he lover her or that she is a sex addict (which some of them are but not always when coming from a pimp) is "fraud. " Essentially those definitions are used to define almost every type of relationship in which a provider has a man in her life as "trafficking" I just try to steer clear of chicks with dudes because it is either ends up being a pimp or somebody out to rob you or somebody who is going to get jealous and cause trouble. I only make exceptions for girls I have known a while and who get new boyfriends and when the boyfriend doesn't know, at first at least. Still, I don't think its 90% or anything. I think there are some solid, hot chicks out there who provide good service and no pimps and no bad drugs. But you do have to hunt for them.

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Now I feel initiated. Earned my first point today. I had out discipline points all day so bring it.

In the span of 21 days we have 2 very different reviews. That's roughly the time separating these 2 polar reviews. One praises this lady and the other calls her a nasty drug skank. The latest one is the negative criticism. For now I take these two posters at face value. Do these women really decline this much?

I had my own problems with a previous reviewer. After having this happen multiple times sometimes by happenstance. I figured out he just likes nasty women. One example that remains in my mind is the lady that had meth sores all over her face. This was in the span of a week or less. The asshole later admitted he was covering for these ladies nasty habits. His view was it was none of his business. When you can describe in great detail about the incall. The color of the carpet, neatness of room, hygiene of provider, what clothes they are wearing. He couldn't bring himself to the real truth. The chick was a nasty user and he just wanted to get off on the cheap. Good bye to that piece of shit! Little Cancer!

Damn these lying ass mongers!

[QUOTE=Jsmw1980;2910453][URL]http://louisville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lily-babii/10654208[/URL]

I would not recommend. I had a meet set up and she canceled on me at the last minute. I found this one was available right then. Met her at her incall in Preston. So so place. When she opened the door I was disappointed. Pics are her but she's gone down since then. She was in a bra and panties. Right away I noticed signs of drug use. Her arms were full of scars, bruises etc. Her legs had scabs all over them and her voice was that funny sound that makes me think she was high then. She apologized for her appearance and said she needed to use the bathroom to get ready. When she was in there I bolted. Rather a sad situation. I'll have to wait till tomorrow to have my fun.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?7890-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=2883195[/URL]#post2883195.

Damn these drugs!

[QUOTE=MillitaryMan69;2910595]In the span of 21 days we have 2 very different reviews. That's roughly the time separating these 2 polar reviews. One praises this lady and the other calls her a nasty drug skank. The latest one is the negative criticism. For now I take these two posters at face value. Do these women really decline this much?

Damn these lying ass mongers!
[/QUOTE]You got it! I think some of these bad reviews are because the monger never mentions that he's a fat, hairy, dirty, cheep bastard and that's the real reason the girl gave crappy service.

[QUOTE=Golf9979;2911973]You got it! I think some of these bad reviews are because the monger never mentions that he's a fat, hairy, dirty, cheep bastard and that's the real reason the girl gave crappy service.[/QUOTE]I might have a different view from you. The customer is of course flawed. We pay for privacy and a desired fantasy.

If the lady can't or won't give a good performance for whatever reason she sees fit then the transaction she be cut off on her end.

Giving crappy service just tells you how bad they need or want the money.

Despite what Propaganda they tell any of us being among the highest paid occupations, even on the low end, carries certain expectations.

If you are paying even $40 more than many make in an hour. You are not being cheap.

Mongers with low expectations is another problem I was addressing. Especially if they are covering up some very profound and disturbing Problems such as obvious drug use.

[QUOTE=MillitaryMan69;2912986]I might have a different view from you. The customer is of course flawed. We pay for privacy and a desired fantasy.

If the lady can't or won't give a good performance for whatever reason she sees fit then the transaction she be cut off on her end.

Giving crappy service just tells you how bad they need or want the money.

Despite what Propaganda they tell any of us being among the highest paid occupations, even on the low end, carries certain expectations.

If you are paying even $40 more than many make in an hour. You are not being cheap.

Mongers with low expectations is another problem I was addressing. Especially if they are covering up some very profound and disturbing Problems such as obvious drug use.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm not buying it that chemistry is created by physical appearance. Who are they expecting is walking through the door? Brad Pitt, Justin Timberlake? I'm not fat or bald or rude or dirty or cheap and sometimes some girls just act like robots and sometimes they don't. I'm not real arrogant but if they can't pretend to be socialable its on them and they'll get reviewed accordingly.

Ok, so this isn't really a fight or even much of a rant, more like a pet peeve. BAD User Names. I mean, really. They don't have to be awesome or incredibly creative, but at least try and stretch your brain a little bit. The one that bugs me the most is Handsome1234. Seriously? I'm a decent looking guy, but even if I was George freakin Clooney, I wouldn't use that handle. Super douchey.

My favorite user name has got to be SteenkyNutz502. My hat's off to you, sir. You must be a pretty confident guy to use that name. Can you imagine a verification call? "Who have you seen before and what's you're name on USASG?" "I've been around a bit and my name is SteenkyNutz50. " <click .

Just so it fits in this forum, I went to City BBQ on HURSTBOURNE and it was pretty good. And Momma's BBQ is right across Hurstbourne, next to Cirilla's. I haven't gone there or heard if it's any good. But I did hear it's owned by the same guy that owns Cirilla's. Weird mix; BBQ & sex toys.

[QUOTE=LostSole;2913972]Ok, so this isn't really a fight or even much of a rant, more like a pet peeve. BAD User Names. I mean, really. They don't have to be awesome or incredibly creative, but at least try and stretch your brain a little bit. The one that bugs me the most is Handsome1234. Seriously? I'm a decent looking guy, but even if I was George freakin Clooney, I wouldn't use that handle. Super douchey.

My favorite user name has got to be SteenkyNutz502. My hat's off to you, sir. You must be a pretty confident guy to use that name. Can you imagine a verification call? "Who have you seen before and what's you're name on USASG?" "I've been around a bit and my name is SteenkyNutz50. " <click .

Just so it fits in this forum, I went to City BBQ on HURSTBOURNE and it was pretty good. And Momma's BBQ is right across Hurstbourne, next to Cirilla's. I haven't gone there or heard if it's any good. But I did hear it's owned by the same guy that owns Cirilla's. Weird mix; BBQ & sex toys.[/QUOTE]Mommas is really good! Try the smoked wings!

Anyone have any recommendations for ribs on the Indiana side?

I guess that since derby is here the ladies feel comfortable trying to raise rates on regulars or repeat customers. Four or 5 different ladies have tried this on me recently. I said fuck you, not in those words, to just about all of them. One of them was one of my ATFs. One even told me how she missed me. Then literally her next sentence was how her rates are higher.

[B]Ladies I'm only gonna say this once: DERBY COMES AND DERBY GOES. I'll be here after but you may have permantly lost my business.[/B]

[QUOTE=Golf9979;2911973]You got it! I think some of these bad reviews are because the monger never mentions that he's a fat, hairy, dirty, cheep bastard and that's the real reason the girl gave crappy service.[/QUOTE]What the fuck is wrong with hairy? .

[QUOTE=Golf9979;2911973]You got it! I think some of these bad reviews are because the monger never mentions that he's a fat, hairy, dirty, cheep bastard and that's the real reason the girl gave crappy service.[/QUOTE]I was the one that left he negative review on this girl. I'm not old-35. I'm not fat-5'9 about 180. Hairy. Clean shaven. I'm in this hobby because it's fun. It's exhilarating. I get to fuck different women often. Have I been burned? Yes. Have I been ripped off? Yes. Have I been risky? Yes. But I've had fun.

I almost quit when I fell for a girl. She knew my pockets were deep and I didn't mind paying for it. I got over that one quick.

I've learned most of these girls are not in this for the fun of it or because they are crazy sex driven fools like I am. They have habits to support or rent to pay.

My reviews are based on my experiences. I've shared worth while posts and PMs. I call it like I see it. That's all.

[QUOTE=Jsmw1980;2915112]I was the one that left he negative review on this girl. I'm not old-35. I'm not fat-5'9 about 180. Hairy. Clean shaven. I'm in this hobby because it's fun. It's exhilarating. I get to fuck different women often. Have I been burned? Yes. Have I been ripped off? Yes. Have I been risky? Yes. But I've had fun.

I almost quit when I fell for a girl. She knew my pockets were deep and I didn't mind paying for it. I got over that one quick.

I've learned most of these girls are not in this for the fun of it or because they are crazy sex driven fools like I am. They have habits to support or rent to pay.

My reviews are based on my experiences. I've shared worth while posts and PMs. I call it like I see it. That's all.[/QUOTE]


Everyone learns the lesson at some point about the girls in this game. I would even argue that deep down NONE of them are in it for fun or for their love of men. Ironically, the men that pay them for sex (us) are the best guys they could know or meet. But they would never be with guys like us in real life because they are all trainwrecks with issues and subsequently, look at the guys they choose in real life. They choose losers and punks. Good example, your girl you fell for, your ATF. Yeah she picked a real winner, oh just loved him to death such a cool guy. Until he beat her ass unconscious and raped her. Yeah those bad boys are so dreamy. Dumb ass girls. Hell I am no shrink, but I bet 80-90% of these girls had absent or bad fathers and they actually hate men (us). I don't judge it, but society judges that women don't go around fucking alot of men. So for any woman doing this, trust me she doesn't love it or feel good about it. And yes drugs are a factor for 9.5/10. Now for guys, hell if I got paid to fuck women I'd wear a t-shirt proclaiming it. I'd brag to everyone I know. Hell I might even take out a billboard announcing it, I'd be proud lol.