"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Round3;5971654]Title says it all. I have a conference near Seattle this coming week. I have only one interest so far with my request for some discreet adult fun while out there. I was thinking with 5. 86 gas there, some East Coast cash might look nice in some babe's wallet.[/QUOTE]Well, hopefully you filled some babe's wallet. And filled her other things LOL. IMO if you're successful in your home turf on SA, you're likely to be successful in any reasonably decent metro area. If you have trouble in your home turf, you will have trouble traveling. Although most SB types (non escorts) usually want ongoing, there are usually some amenable to a one-time traveler. Just have to work harder and deal with more flakes (even more than regular if that's possible), etc.

I rarely travel at all (which really sucks) but have had some success on the rare occasions I do and use the same overall approach I use at home. For better or worse, (Worse lately LOL) But when traveling, unlike some wrote here, I'm up front about only being a fleeting SD, blowing thru town only for a short stay. As some point out, maybe that prevents many SB's from biting, but others don't care. Likely the more transactional types I will admit, but work hard enough and some good ones will bite. Sometimes also I think there are girls that just want a one time and not have to reject anyone. Or if they have a BF or married and just want to get rando-plowed for kicks. There are all types on SA.

But suggesting you'll be back periodically, that's a good point I'll try next time.

It's key to start ahead of time though, several weeks ahead of when you will be there. And be prepared to get many messages after you have already left and won't be back for awhile. I try to harvest these contacts and chat with these as groundwork for the next visit.

[QUOTE=HarryMcHardon;5980264]Catching up on the posts here and this one made me laugh because reminded me of a funny story that's just one of thse things when you get older. I have the same problem periodically with my hammies. What helps me is daily stretching, eating bananas and avoiding excess sodium in my diet. Also light workouts, ham curls, at the gym. These help a lot, but sometimes I still have issues with hamstring lock up, and it's almost always in the sack. Never gardening or playing with the dog. Ugh. Last time it happened I was receiving a kneeling BJ. And my hammy locked up right at the most inopportune time. Like one those porn blooper clips I had to stop everything and get up and stretch, which of course, um was a very unwelcome interruption.

Otherwise, I'm pretty contortive (if that's a word) and bedroom-agile for my age.

I think most guys here know that taking care of one's health helps extend this game dramatically, but not without some issues here and there.[/QUOTE]Try Advil before and after. Sometimes knowing your limits and what you can and can't do. Nice hot shower prior helps limber it up. Be safe.

[QUOTE=Round3;5971654]Title says it all. I have a conference near Seattle this coming week. I have only one interest so far with my request for some discreet adult fun while out there. I was thinking with 5. 86 gas there, some East Coast cash might look nice in some babe's wallet.[/QUOTE]Seattle, 4-5 bills will get you most SB's to jump in the sack.

When, I travel I just PM them and say I am in town for business, are you interested in a short term agreement.

Always find a lady wanting to play.

[QUOTE=Round3;5971654]Title says it all. I have a conference near Seattle this coming week. I have only one interest so far with my request for some discreet adult fun while out there. I was thinking with 5. 86 gas there, some East Coast cash might look nice in some babe's wallet.[/QUOTE]I know this post is a couple days old but I'm not sure how often you travel to the PNW. Cost of living there is out of control and we should want their money. Lot of tech companies call it home and salaries are high. They won't be impresssed by a Richmond income. Seattle is probably comparable to NOVA at this point.

Stay safe.

RR.

[QUOTE=BagIt;5963758]I was banned 2 weeks ago but I now have a new profile w / no pic but I have not yet paid for a premium membership. If I use a different credit card from the card I used before banned will I be ok, or get banned again because the card will have my same name and address as the old card. What advice do you guys have?[/QUOTE]Was banned myself recently. So far everyone has pretty good ideas of how to log back in. Things that worked for me:

1.) Completely uninstall the seeking app on my phone.

2.) Cleared my cache on my phone using the manual reset. Depending on the model of your phone will probably be different. Here is a youtube link that I followed with my Samsung phone ([URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbIepmawxmg[/URL]) 1 min into the vid was the manual reset.

3.) Downloaded a VPN on my phone (cyberghost, surfshark, nordVPN etc.) will need to get a subscription. Which having a secure VPN is ideal anyways.

4.) Login attempt: After cache cleared you possibly use a new google account, but I decided to open with a proton account.

5.) As some of the other lad's mentioned on this topic. Everything on your profile has to look and sound different.

6.) Subscription: I used google pay, but used a different CC and had to change it in my phone account settings.

I've been on since yesterday so I am hoping that the bot parade doesn't learn a new algorithm or anything. Good luck!

[QUOTE=GiveItRaw10;5980749]Was banned myself recently. So far everyone has pretty good ideas of how to log back in. Things that worked for me:

1.) Completely uninstall the seeking app on my phone.

2.) Cleared my cache on my phone using the manual reset. Depending on the model of your phone will probably be different. Here is a youtube link that I followed with my Samsung phone ([URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbIepmawxmg[/URL]) 1 min into the vid was the manual reset.

3.) Downloaded a VPN on my phone (cyberghost, surfshark, nordVPN etc.) will need to get a subscription. Which having a secure VPN is ideal anyways.

4.) Login attempt: After cache cleared you possibly use a new google account, but I decided to open with a proton account.

5.) As some of the other lad's mentioned on this topic. Everything on your profile has to look and sound different.

6.) Subscription: I used google pay, but used a different CC and had to change it in my phone account settings.

I've been on since yesterday so I am hoping that the bot parade doesn't learn a new algorithm or anything. Good luck![/QUOTE]Wouldn't you be able to avoid step #3 and the associated cost if one just used the Tor Browser? Quadruple redundant VPN protection? Or on the phone isn't the equivalent the Orbot always running in the background?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e2f6bec6-5c86-415b-a620-be3d6e22ee0a[/URL] -- yeah, chicks that look like this in RVA are on seeking. And the nearest Soul Cycle is. Arlington.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/49798849-6b99-4982-8782-85244a29e123[/URL] - 9 bod, 8 face, marginal comms. Seems too busy with work to ever meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c556095-1b23-48a4-8b4b-2d52e393a3a1[/URL] - sassy, sarcastic but missing the big S -- Silent. Can't get a word otu of her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bf4b5c07-4b09-4707-b3c8-642d64df856a[/URL] - not her first rodeo, but can't get her to text. She keeps deactivating when she takes breaks so she doesn't get bombarded with messages.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2124534b-a6d9-4641-ba93-055fd4ba8e55[/URL] - initial engagement that seemed legit. Silent for days but active anyone get anywhere?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c78180ab-fb4a-4df4-b27e-0585f4e9e32e[/URL] -- she's back, but seems to have taken platonic references off her profile. But still can't get anywhere.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/45b76aac-c486-4b26-90b9-ad15ca2f6cbf[/URL] -- seems real, b ut limited replies and activity.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9702b2ec-9940-403f-9acd-6f6a0b0f567b[/URL] - totally flaked on meeting, lots of excuses, 1030 am "I'm in the shower getting ready" Noon "waiting on my sister to get back with my car".

[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5969887]#1 I saw a review over on the NOVA or Fredericksburg board.

#2 is definitely DTF. The profile pic is 3 years old but she still looks decent. Have had a meet and greet. She sent me home with her panties!! LOL She is currently living with a friend down there in the Manchester area. Works at a restaurant and walks to work. Trying to raise rent money to get her own place and she will host once that happens. She's been approved for the place but doesn't have the $ yet. Our schedules just haven't worked out yet but could have had it by now. Trying for this weekend.[/QUOTE]How did things go with #2 (the panty gifter LOL) I've been talking with her and interested how things might develop.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5979263]Get your head out of the gutter. I want to know how long someone who has a SO can keep going in the sugar bowl without discovery. And, then, to what age do you think / believe / have actually stayed in the bowl?[/QUOTE]For me, about 4 years in the bowl. But I'm pretty underground, and have strict rules with my activities, so much that I likely lose a lotta chances at SBs I otherwise could see if I were less careful, er paranoid.

The other thing is, we can have the world's best opsec, but after that what's more likely to impact our ability to evade detection on the home front is fairly uncontrollable by us, and that is what type of SO you have, and her lifestyle. If your SO works, is very independently active, has many friends, many outside interests, travels w / friends, then you are much safer than someone with a SO who's retired and / or with few friends or outside activities and seeks most of her life's enjoyment through you. In the latter case, you're kinda in a straightjacket. She has plenty of time to keep track of you, so you're operating in a much tighter operating window and this is something that you can't do much about.

I'll keep at this til - 1, I get caught, 2, run out of untraceable money, or 3, My ability declines to the level where I have to stick a needle in my dick. And #3 is much easier to say if you aren't there yet, so it remains to be seen on that one.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5981545][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e2f6bec6-5c86-415b-a620-be3d6e22ee0a[/URL] -- yeah, chicks that look like this in RVA are on seeking. And the nearest Soul Cycle is. Arlington.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/49798849-6b99-4982-8782-85244a29e123[/URL] - 9 bod, 8 face, marginal comms. Seems too busy with work to ever meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c556095-1b23-48a4-8b4b-2d52e393a3a1[/URL] - sassy, sarcastic but missing the big S -- Silent. Can't get a word otu of her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bf4b5c07-4b09-4707-b3c8-642d64df856a[/URL] - not her first rodeo, but can't get her to text. She keeps deactivating when she takes breaks so she doesn't get bombarded with messages.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2124534b-a6d9-4641-ba93-055fd4ba8e55[/URL] - initial engagement that seemed legit. Silent for days but active anyone get anywhere?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c78180ab-fb4a-4df4-b27e-0585f4e9e32e[/URL] -- she's back, but seems to have taken platonic references off her profile. But still can't get anywhere.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/45b76aac-c486-4b26-90b9-ad15ca2f6cbf[/URL] -- seems real, b ut limited replies and activity.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9702b2ec-9940-403f-9acd-6f6a0b0f567b[/URL] - totally flaked on meeting, lots of excuses, 1030 am "I'm in the shower getting ready" Noon "waiting on my sister to get back with my car".[/QUOTE]That last one, the one you said flaked on you, looks very familiar. I've never met her but I think I've communicated with her, and I believe she's just a straight up escort. I believe she's been around for quite sometime.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5981319]Wouldn't you be able to avoid step #3 and the associated cost if one just used the Tor Browser? Quadruple redundant VPN protection? Or on the phone isn't the equivalent the Orbot always running in the background?[/QUOTE]Yeah for sure. I just understand that using TOR alone, it doesn't offer a full encryption on your online data. Like if you are using TOR alone on the way from the last node to another destination server, you are vulnerable to being attacked.

[QUOTE=HarryMcHardon;5981906]For me, about 4 years in the bowl. But I'm pretty underground, and have strict rules with my activities, so much that I likely lose a lotta chances at SBs I otherwise could see if I were less careful, er paranoid.

The other thing is, we can have the world's best opsec, but after that what's more likely to impact our ability to evade detection on the home front is fairly uncontrollable by us, and that is what type of SO you have, and her lifestyle. If your SO works, is very independently active, has many friends, many outside interests, travels w / friends, then you are much safer than someone with a SO who's retired and / or with few friends or outside activities and seeks most of her life's enjoyment through you. In the latter case, you're kinda in a straightjacket. She has plenty of time to keep track of you, so you're operating in a much tighter operating window and this is something that you can't do much about.

I'll keep at this til - 1, I get caught, 2, run out of untraceable money, or 3, My ability declines to the level where I have to stick a needle in my dick. And #3 is much easier to say if you aren't there yet, so it remains to be seen on that one.[/QUOTE]I hear you brother, loud and clear. I am in much the same boat, this all sounds familiar. I generate play money mostly by gambling, but you have to be good enough at it. I also often think if I had no SO to worry about, I would have a higher batting average, b / c I could act when opportunity presents itself. However, of course there are many many reasons guys w / SOs are on seeking.

[QUOTE=TakesALicking;5981609]How did things go with #2 (the panty gifter LOL) I've been talking with her and interested how things might develop.[/QUOTE]We still have not met up for FC. It's on me though as I've been working way too much and not making time for fun. She is blowing my phone up with texts though trying to get together. Update since my last post, she now has her own place so can host. And her hours got cut at the restaurant she's working at down there so she needs to make a few bucks. So keep chatting with her and I'm sure you can set something up. If I get there first I'll report back LOL.

[QUOTE=GiveItRaw10;5982160]Yeah for sure. I just understand that using TOR alone, it doesn't offer a full encryption on your online data. Like if you are using TOR alone on the way from the last node to another destination server, you are vulnerable to being attacked.[/QUOTE]Sure, Some Gov't tech genius can sit on that last exit node and monitor what comes out, but being bounced around 3 other nodes means there is no way to I'd who is on the exit node. So I doubt SA is going to be able to I'd you as offender XYZ from that exit node, which is different each time or can be changed mid-game. So what we are talking about is getting back on SA? Not staying safe from some gubmint alphabet agency.

Why do you need encrypted data to access SA?

The steps you outlined would skuttle the IP address and MAC addresses that have been reportedly used to I'd repeat offenders.

OK, well all know about 'hooker time' when it comes to dealing with the drug addicted street walkers and escorts. They get stuck in a 'nod' or have to hurry to 'get well' before meeting a dude and there are a million ways that can go wrong and lead to time delays. Or they aren't in control of their living situation or transportation so many places for a snafu to occur. After all most of these girl, IF they could manage their time, could probably have productive jobs and lives. So, if we are smart, we open a can of patience when dealing with these types of 'dates!

But then youse gots yer Sugar Babies that want 2 X or 3 X what we have to offer up on the street. I mean at that level of compensation, shouldn't SBs be a better experience? Should we have to put up with 'hooker time' when engaging a SB? After all if a girl can't manage to be on time for a Meet & Greet what does that say about her ability to show up for a date on time? I mean those with tight schedules could lose the ability to complete a date if the SB is 35-45 minutes late!

So what is up with these SBs that don't take time seriously?

Oh and then if the dude happens to leave because his time is valuable, she's gunna curse him out, call him all kinds of names and claim he wasted her time. Then she'll spend miles of unproductive text time arguing over who wasted whose time.

I mean shit, I didn't get to where I am able to play in the sugar bowl because I fritter away time or showed up late to jobs or job interviews. I guess when you are flatbacking for a living such subtitles escape the girls?

Then again perhaps there are enough numbnuts out there that are so excited a pretty girl MAY want to fuck them that they will put up with this form of disrespect?

What gives?

[color=gray][I]stepping down off of the soapbox[/I][/color]

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5982921]OK, well all know about 'hooker time' when it comes to dealing with the drug addicted street walkers and escorts. They get stuck in a 'nod' or have to hurry to 'get well' before meeting a dude and there are a million ways that can go wrong and lead to time delays. Or they aren't in control of their living situation or transportation so many places for a snafu to occur. After all most of these girl, IF they could manage their time, could probably have productive jobs and lives. So, if we are smart, we open a can of patience when dealing with these types of 'dates!

But then youse gots yer Sugar Babies that want 2 X or 3 X what we have to offer up on the street. I mean at that level of compensation, shouldn't SBs be a better experience? Should we have to put up with 'hooker time' when engaging a SB? After all if a girl can't manage to be on time for a Meet & Greet what does that say about her ability to show up for a date on time? I mean those with tight schedules could lose the ability to complete a date if the SB is 35-45 minutes late!

So what is up with these SBs that don't take time seriously?

Oh and then if the dude happens to leave because his time is valuable, she's gunna curse him out, call him all kinds of names and claim he wasted her time. Then she'll spend miles of unproductive text time arguing over who wasted whose time.

I mean shit, I didn't get to where I am able to play in the sugar bowl because I fritter away time or showed up late to jobs or job interviews. I guess when you are flatbacking for a living such subtitles escape the girls?

Then again perhaps there are enough numbnuts out there that are so excited a pretty girl MAY want to fuck them that they will put up with this form of disrespect?

What gives?

[/QUOTE]What gives is, this is what you get when you treat these girls like special little petunias that aren't really hookers. While I completely get the concept of allowing them to have that delusion, when you couple that with folks that keep talking about having "game" to pick up a chick that will fuck for money? You're going to have some entitlement issues.

[QUOTE=BagIt;5963758]I was banned 2 weeks ago but I now have a new profile w / no pic but I have not yet paid for a premium membership. If I use a different credit card from the card I used before banned will I be ok, or get banned again because the card will have my same name and address as the old card. What advice do you guys have?[/QUOTE]Did it the old fashioned way, I complained to management. Really can't believe they dropped the ban on me after I told them that was fucked up to ban me due to my payment history since 2015. They checked it out and I guess after viewing it they agreed, lmfao. They even gave me back the week I had left on my premium membership when I was banned. They slapped my hand and said I had to agree to their terms of use and if 1 more infraction I will be out for good.

[QUOTE=BagIt;5983199]Did it the old fashioned way, I complained to management. Really can't believe they dropped the ban on me after I told them that was fucked up to ban me due to my payment history since 2015. They checked it out and I guess after viewing it they agreed, lmfao. They even gave me back the week I had left on my premium membership when I was banned. They slapped my hand and said I had to agree to their terms of use and if 1 more infraction I will be out for good.[/QUOTE]Please explain your understanding of what you did that got you banned. I know generally they are far more sensitive on the site these days concerning TOS violations, and are trying to rebrand as more of a dating site than a sex / hookup site.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5982905]Sure, Some Gov't tech genius can sit on that last exit node and monitor what comes out, but being bounced around 3 other nodes means there is no way to I'd who is on the exit node. So I doubt SA is going to be able to I'd you as offender XYZ from that exit node, which is different each time or can be changed mid-game. So what we are talking about is getting back on SA? Not staying safe from some gubmint alphabet agency.

Why do you need encrypted data to access SA?

The steps you outlined would skuttle the IP address and MAC addresses that have been reportedly used to I'd repeat offenders.[/QUOTE]Those are steps I used to get back on SA. Punters can use it or not. I use a VPN when browsing the net so purchasing a subscription doesn't worry me none. TOR is too slow.

Nothing wrong with being protected while on the net?

[QUOTE=S2568;5969215]Have been communicating with these.

So far nothing solid but hope to get some input from some of you.

1. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3ccda269-89e0-4969-b1ab-f0b1139c5e7c[/URL].

Seems to be dtf wants to meet first not sure have to travel up to 40 miles.

[/QUOTE]Sunshine is real. Doesn't drive, but she'll meet you at a certain location for car fun (usually in Stafford). Sometimes she goes to Fredericksburg or even Ashland, but not often.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5983370]Please explain your understanding of what you did that got you banned. I know generally they are far more sensitive on the site these days concerning TOS violations, and are trying to rebrand as more of a dating site than a sex / hookup site.[/QUOTE]That I offered money for sex to a girl on the site, perhaps I did in some too flagrant way, idk. Maybe some girl got pissed at me and turned some story to her liking to get me banned. Hard to tell but SA said they had evidence on me and even so I challenged them. Basically I told them I had 7 yrs of good conduct and no reports of violation, plus all the money I had paid in membership, in essence letting them know I had been a good customer and it is in their best interest to keep me. I was surprised when they did lift the ban and let me on able to use the last week of my current 30 days.

LovingTemptress [URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/3c07952b-1e5f-4743-97cf-c20e952b31cf[/URL].

Moved to texts pretty quickly. Texting from a 859 Jersey area code. Says she lives near the airport here in Richmond. After sending a few non-sexy pics and chatting asks for the loan to get her by until we meet. Of course she'll send lots of vids and pics after I do that. Nope. Blocked her number.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d28c8252-6beb-422e-9110-62525fc23f11[/URL] -- pretty cute and articulate, should have time to play and motivated being recently unemployed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f6e2e806-2ce9-481c-a173-6602452c0b5f[/URL] -- looks sweet, but hasn't replied to the handful of messages she has read and checked out my profile. Not interested? That's fine, but just block me please.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6376b10c-1466-4dc6-86f9-a12d251be93d[/URL] -- not in RVA. She's in cville but got stalked. Very restrictive schedule and lives with BF and NOT openly so.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ba6f85b3-ee3e-4a43-871f-68b434330da9[/URL] -- I'm betting TGTBT.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f434c05-3bb8-48ae-926d-978a82fee8e4[/URL] - ditto.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1d73747a-39f6-4941-9d39-5d77be917528[/URL]

This girl Asking deposit for m&g. Which I was stupid enough to gave out money upfront. Don't waste your time.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dd343f44-6a29-4e00-93c0-ba67313926ec[/URL]

This lady is fun and sexy. Asking ppm type relationship. She offered BBFS, bbj, and geeek but opted for cfs. Her skins are soft and smells good.

[QUOTE=BobLobLa;5988525][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d28c8252-6beb-422e-9110-62525fc23f11[/URL] -- pretty cute and articulate, should have time to play and motivated being recently unemployed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f6e2e806-2ce9-481c-a173-6602452c0b5f[/URL] -- looks sweet, but hasn't replied to the handful of messages she has read and checked out my profile. Not interested? That's fine, but just block me please.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6376b10c-1466-4dc6-86f9-a12d251be93d[/URL] -- not in RVA. She's in cville but got stalked. Very restrictive schedule and lives with BF and NOT openly so.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ba6f85b3-ee3e-4a43-871f-68b434330da9[/URL] -- I'm betting TGTBT.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f434c05-3bb8-48ae-926d-978a82fee8e4[/URL] - ditto.[/QUOTE]I got same result as you on 2nd one. I guess she is not interested at all.

[QUOTE=Ronson1;5989200][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1d73747a-39f6-4941-9d39-5d77be917528[/URL]

This girl Asking deposit for m&g. Which I was stupid enough to gave out money upfront. Don't waste your time.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dd343f44-6a29-4e00-93c0-ba67313926ec[/URL]

This lady is fun and sexy. Asking ppm type relationship. She offered BBFS, bbj, and geeek but opted for cfs. Her skins are soft and smells good.[/QUOTE]Your second link is showing someone from Texas. Is she here now?

[QUOTE=Ronson1;5989200][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1d73747a-39f6-4941-9d39-5d77be917528[/URL]

This girl Asking deposit for m&g. Which I was stupid enough to gave out money upfront. Don't waste your time.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dd343f44-6a29-4e00-93c0-ba67313926ec[/URL]

This lady is fun and sexy. Asking ppm type relationship. She offered BBFS, bbj, and geeek but opted for cfs. Her skins are soft and smells good.[/QUOTE]Your first link. She's been around but never been able to confirm if she's real or just a guy using those pics. Each time we talked she need it money to pay her phone bill or something else that was an emergency. Never sent her anything. But circles around often asking for money.

[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5989333]Your second link is showing someone from Texas. Is she here now?[/QUOTE]Yes she is here in Richmond but she travel to Texas often. I guess that's where she from? Just saw her at her place yesterday evening. Not sure why she changed location on her profile. She works at the gym as a trainer.

[QUOTE=BobLobLa;5988525][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d28c8252-6beb-422e-9110-62525fc23f11[/URL] -- pretty cute and articulate, should have time to play and motivated being recently unemployed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f6e2e806-2ce9-481c-a173-6602452c0b5f[/URL] -- looks sweet, but hasn't replied to the handful of messages she has read and checked out my profile. Not interested? That's fine, but just block me please.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6376b10c-1466-4dc6-86f9-a12d251be93d[/URL] -- not in RVA. She's in cville but got stalked. Very restrictive schedule and lives with BF and NOT openly so.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ba6f85b3-ee3e-4a43-871f-68b434330da9[/URL] -- I'm betting TGTBT.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f434c05-3bb8-48ae-926d-978a82fee8e4[/URL] - ditto.[/QUOTE]Your last link: Sophie is real--saw her back in 2019 / early 2020. Then, corona. She's been on SA a couple of times since then with the same "back for a short time" note in her profile.

[QUOTE=LikItFun;5992577]Your last link: Sophie is real--saw her back in 2019 / early 2020. Then, corona. She's been on SA a couple of times since then with the same "back for a short time" note in her profile.[/QUOTE]Good fun? GPS? Butter face?

Ok, so once again the debate. Will prepaid card work on SA? So I just purchased the SecureSpend card. This was the old One Vanilla. It looks exactly like the old one vanilla. I logged on to the Secure website and saw that the money was added on the card. I went to SA to use the prepaid and once I etnered the card number in the field and immediately a message appeard that said something to effect "although we do accept prepaid cards your acceptance may be low". Now, before anyone jumps down my throat I know that I just purchased it. I've heard that some times people have to wait a day before using it. So I am going to wait. Any advice from anyone who recently used a prepaid to sign up for SA I would love to chat with you. Thanks.

Looking to get back into the SB game. Been awhile since I have messed with SA other then doom scrolling profiles.

Check list.

Money.
Burner.
Credit Card.
Blue Pill.
------
The Game.

Hunting freebies.
No GPS.
No PTM.
Can't talk about PPM or Money.

Missed anything off the top?

Sorry for the lack luster post.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;5993437]Ok, so once again the debate. Will prepaid card work on SA? So I just purchased the SecureSpend card. This was the old One Vanilla. It looks exactly like the old one vanilla. I logged on to the Secure website and saw that the money was added on the card. I went to SA to use the prepaid and once I etnered the card number in the field and immediately a message appeard that said something to effect "although we do accept prepaid cards your acceptance may be low". Now, before anyone jumps down my throat I know that I just purchased it. I've heard that some times people have to wait a day before using it. So I am going to wait. Any advice from anyone who recently used a prepaid to sign up for SA I would love to chat with you. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes, I just used a SecureSpend card (2-weeks) and got access to SA. In fact, I saw the same warning you did about low acceptance of prepaid cards. And yes, I have seen that warning everytime I have paid with a OneVanilla or SecureSpend card. Perhaps that is a a way to bluff guys into using their IRL CC?

But despite the warning, I ventured forth and the card was taken / accepted IMMEDIATELY. This was done about an hour after purchasing the card. For some reason I could not get into the card website to verify that the money was there. So you got an extra step that I didn't get accomplished. Nevertheless I went forward with the card on SA and it went through, no delay. Oh and when I loaded the card, I loaded the EXACT amount due to SA, not some amount over the SA fare.

Only thing I think that possibly could have been different was that I opened a browser window, got to the "pay now" part and then got up, went out and bought the card, came back and continued with the 'pay now' process in the same browser window and session. But that is likely immaterial.

Give it a try and see what happens! The back up / default is a message to Customer Service with a header "problems paying" as any business is attuned to collecting the money!

Hope it works out!

[QUOTE=AutoRepairru;5993505]Looking to get back into the SB game. Been awhile since I have messed with SA other then doom scrolling profiles.

Check list.

Money.
Burner.
Credit Card.
Blue Pill.
------
The Game.

Hunting freebies.
No GPS.
No PTM.
Can't talk about PPM or Money.

Missed anything off the top?

Sorry for the lack luster post.[/QUOTE]Have OpSec Plan.

Texting app on top of burner.

Prepaid card instead of IRL CC.

Take convo offsite ASAP.

Don't use code words like sugar, etc.

NO MONEY UPFRONT EVER!

Freebies? GL with that!

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5993647]Yes, I just used a SecureSpend card (2-weeks) and got access to SA. In fact, I saw the same warning you did about low acceptance of prepaid cards. And yes, I have seen that warning everytime I have paid with a OneVanilla or SecureSpend card. Perhaps that is a a way to bluff guys into using their IRL CC?

But despite the warning, I ventured forth and the card was taken / accepted IMMEDIATELY. This was done about an hour after purchasing the card. For some reason I could not get into the card website to verify that the money was there. So you got an extra step that I didn't get accomplished. Nevertheless I went forward with the card on SA and it went through, no delay. Oh and when I loaded the card, I loaded the EXACT amount due to SA, not some amount over the SA fare.

Only thing I think that possibly could have been different was that I opened a browser window, got to the "pay now" part and then got up, went out and bought the card, came back and continued with the 'pay now' process in the same browser window and session. But that is likely immaterial.

Give it a try and see what happens! The back up / default is a message to Customer Service with a header "problems paying" as any business is attuned to collecting the money!

Hope it works out![/QUOTE]Thank you my friend. Yes I just put in a ticket with SA and will see if they can help. I'll continue to try later tonight and then again tomorrow to see if I just need to give it more time. I did put in a little extra on the card, like I normally do LOL. So I think that is another difference. Can I ask what did you put in for an address. 1st time I put in a fake address out of state. Second time I put in a real address in my city but just not my real address. Still didn't work. Oh well. I'll keep trying.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;5993690]Thank you my friend. Yes I just put in a ticket with SA and will see if they can help. I'll continue to try later tonight and then again tomorrow to see if I just need to give it more time. I did put in a little extra on the card, like I normally do LOL. So I think that is another difference. Can I ask what did you put in for an address. 1st time I put in a fake address out of state. Second time I put in a real address in my city but just not my real address. Still didn't work. Oh well. I'll keep trying.[/QUOTE]Where did you have to put in an address? I forget if that is required in the process & where? My SA account has been around for years as a lurker and only paid for membership in the last few years, so perhaps I got in before an address was required?

For my monger identity I selected a local apartment complex with 400 units. Should be enough turnover in there in a year that tracking exact residents is difficult. Also just use the street address and no Apt No. Not sure how these verification processes work, but I know I got kicked off FB with a monger identity when I used the address of a business. Local bar!

If you are not able to sign up after failure, you might have to take some of the steps dudes take when they get kicked off. Namely wipe out all traces of previous identities and start over: clean cookies, cache, etc AND try a VPN (Tor browser is free) so you have a different IP Address. (don't use same pics as before, word profile differently, etc.) Perhaps they also have your MAC address and if so then you have to take stronger steps. But hopefully it doesn't come to that!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2ab60ee8-fc34-4c91-8e3c-9650629cabcc[/URL]

Does anyone have luck with this cutie? I'm about to do m&g sometime next week.

I understand it has always been tough to get a fake profile on FB to use to suss out POTs / SBs pages. Because I have a SO I don't want to use my real profile to look up a MILF I am currently messaging w /, IK how FB works, if you visit someone's profile, there is a chance they get suggested to you as a friend, or vice-versa, and I definitely don't want that. IK my POTs real name because she is a newbie and is using her real phone #, which I found on PeopleLooker.

Anyway, I am giving it a go to set up a sugar profile on FB. IK all of my personal information / address I would use. I started the process, and almost immediately got an email message from FB that they were checking to see if I was real and that I had to send them a photo of me. I picked up something on the web, switched it around, and sent it to them, and now I am waiting for a response. Anyone else have a similar experience in the recent past. IK if you got a profile sometime ago and haven't done anything iffy, FB will leave you alone, but alas I don't have the luxury of time travel to set that up.

[URL]Seeking.com[/URL] keeps blocking me due to a prior terms violation, no matter what I tried. Do you all know of any other similar sites? Have you ever tried [URL]secretbenefits.com[/URL]? There are a lot of fake profiles on these sites these days, so I wanted to ask for your experience. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Ntcuonghm1;5999629][URL]Seeking.com[/URL] keeps blocking me due to a prior terms violation, no matter what I tried. Do you all know of any other similar sites? Have you ever tried [URL]secretbenefits.com[/URL]? There are a lot of fake profiles on these sites these days, so I wanted to ask for your experience. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Secret benefits DOES work, as I have one SB from there (first one I ever messaged). Been 4+yrs now!.

The big difference is they use a credit system and try and get you to spend your credits. So, between fake profiles and whatnot, you need to be careful not to waste your credits. If you have a good eye from reading and detecting fake ads from other places, and use common sense you shouldn't have much trouble. Ie, the gorgeous girl from Brazil is not looking to be your sugar baby, only to get you to spend money. Plenty of good choices on there though. (at least in my area). Otherwise, I don't know if I'd recommend it to a "beginner surfer".

I know a few mongers that have had success on what's your price, as well. Worth a look.

Good luck, happy hunting, and stay safe!