Saw this girl a couple times, think at Players and maybe BT's, anyone know where she dances now and if there are extras available? Something about her does it for me.
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Saw this girl a couple times, think at Players and maybe BT's, anyone know where she dances now and if there are extras available? Something about her does it for me.
[QUOTE=Bacardi1314;2983208]I guess a curious part of me wonders, in East Side lingo, what differentiates a "dance" and VIP? What does a dance here get you? I hear about dances costing $5-$25, but VIP costing more, partly due to negotiations for extras. In Grand Rapids, a "dance" consists of $10 getting you a back room grind only dance lasting one song only. Is "dance" in Detroit another meaning? We don't have VIP back home. Hell, the girls can't even show their titties on stage due to local laws.[/QUOTE]Since you are looking for mileage at a good price forget about clubs with "VIPs". Of course some will call their normal dance area VIP, but a VIP really is a separate room that you pay for big time to the club.
Given what you are looking for just go to Bogarts or either Henrys. Providing the girls are not taking the day off you will find what you seek and do as others mentioned for price.
[QUOTE=Bacardi1314;2983387]Ended up driving up and down 8 Mile tonight to see if there was any SW action and ended up stopping at BTs. Here's my perspective:
Pros:
I was shocked at the "proper" service as I entered. Valet was super nice. The manager / owner led me to a table and gave me their menu, almost like I was being seated at a fine dining restaurant. Coming from Bland Rapids, it was a welcomed change of pace.
With the exception of 1 or 2 girls, my opinion is that all the girls there were a solid 8/10 in my book. Jennifer was by far the sexiest.
I was happily shocked that as each of the 3 girls that sat down with me instantly ran their hands up my shorts and started fondling me. One even took my hand and shoved my fingers inside her to prove she didn't smell.
Cons:
The upselling. This is something I'm not used to coming from the west side of MI. The first girl that sat with me, Mandy, a slender black chick, asked me to come in back with her for $200 FS, no song count. I damn near shit. People pay that over here?? I'm used to girls taking $10 in the "back room" per song and being very content with it. I did get her down to $100, but by then, I had my eyes on a few more girls, so I told Mandy I was going to sit back and enjoy the scenery for now. Not a no, just a not right now.
Jennifer came over, and I almost asked to take her in back, but I was getting the stank eye from Mandy so I just passed for now.
Olivia was a trip. Said it was her second day here. She was the one who covered her lap and slid my fingers inside her. Told me how horny she was. Some dude kept interrupting is asking when she was gunna call her coke dealer to hook him up. Kinda ruined the moment for me. So I passed on her too.
Overall, I enjoyed my time there. If Coliseum is the creme de la creme, I'd prolly explode from the scorching hotness?? I found the girls at BTs to be super sexy.[/QUOTE]Where is there a BT's on 8 Mile. Did one of clubs change names? I admit it has been awhile since I cruised 8 mile.
[QUOTE=Bacardi1314;2983387]Ended up driving up and down 8 Mile tonight to see if there was any SW action and ended up stopping at BTs. Here's my perspective:
Pros:
I was shocked at the "proper" service as I entered. Valet was super nice. The manager / owner led me to a table and gave me their menu, almost like I was being seated at a fine dining restaurant. Coming from Bland Rapids, it was a welcomed change of pace.
With the exception of 1 or 2 girls, my opinion is that all the girls there were a solid 8/10 in my book. Jennifer was by far the sexiest.
I was happily shocked that as each of the 3 girls that sat down with me instantly ran their hands up my shorts and started fondling me. One even took my hand and shoved my fingers inside her to prove she didn't smell.
Cons:
The upselling. This is something I'm not used to coming from the west side of MI. The first girl that sat with me, Mandy, a slender black chick, asked me to come in back with her for $200 FS, no song count. I damn near shit. People pay that over here?? I'm used to girls taking $10 in the "back room" per song and being very content with it. I did get her down to $100, but by then, I had my eyes on a few more girls, so I told Mandy I was going to sit back and enjoy the scenery for now. Not a no, just a not right now.
Jennifer came over, and I almost asked to take her in back, but I was getting the stank eye from Mandy so I just passed for now.
Olivia was a trip. Said it was her second day here. She was the one who covered her lap and slid my fingers inside her. Told me how horny she was. Some dude kept interrupting is asking when she was gunna call her coke dealer to hook him up. Kinda ruined the moment for me. So I passed on her too.
Overall, I enjoyed my time there. If Coliseum is the creme de la creme, I'd prolly explode from the scorching hotness?? I found the girls at BTs to be super sexy.[/QUOTE]That's a change the last time I was at BT's the girls looked pretty rough but that was day shift. It was also awhile ago.
[QUOTE=RideMe3726;2983977]Where is there a BT's on 8 Mile. Did one of clubs change names? I admit it has been awhile since I cruised 8 mile.[/QUOTE]BT's on 8 Mile is the former Tycoons.
[QUOTE=RideMe3726;2983977]Where is there a BT's on 8 Mile. Did one of clubs change names? I admit it has been awhile since I cruised 8 mile.[/QUOTE]Tycoon's at 8 & Groesbeck became BT's, if memory serves me correctly.
Everyone here knows the going rate for some fun in the back VIP rooms. What about the guys who make it rain money on a dancer or the guy who tips a girl $10 while she's on stage? Hard to understand how some guys tip the girls when they'll do so much more in the back for another bill. I've got no problem tipping a bartender who goes out of the way to give me great service, just can't see sliding a girl a ten spot or more for dancing on the stage.
[QUOTE=StripperLover;2984404]Everyone here knows the going rate for some fun in the back VIP rooms. What about the guys who make it rain money on a dancer or the guy who tips a girl $10 while she's on stage? Hard to understand how some guys tip the girls when they'll do so much more in the back for another bill. I've got no problem tipping a bartender who goes out of the way to give me great service, just can't see sliding a girl a ten spot or more for dancing on the stage.[/QUOTE]Sometimes when I have no intention of going to the VIP I will tip 10 or 20 just to let them know I appreciate them. Only for someone I know really well. It ain't always about getting the extras dude.
[QUOTE=Bacardi1314;2983391]Silver Rain.
Ace of Spades.
Trumpps.
3 clubs I noticed that I haven't heard anything about on here. Are they worth it? Again, I'm looking for mileage for fairly cheap.[/QUOTE]I drove by Silver Rain while working Thursday 7-7-16 about 3 30 pm and it looked like they weren't open yet. No cars in the parking lot. A rv parked in the back of the parking lot and that was it.
[QUOTE=Bacardi1314;2983391]Silver Rain.
Ace of Spades.
Trumpps.
3 clubs I noticed that I haven't heard anything about on here. Are they worth it? Again, I'm looking for mileage for fairly cheap.[/QUOTE]I can vouch that ace of spades depending on what your looking for is a no go. I like my strippers to have a big booty LOL so I went to ace of spades looking to have fun on a Saturday night. I get there and the door person tells me 40 to get in. I laugh and turn around he stops me and says OK 20 only cause we close in another hour. I go in there and it's crowded and strippers aren't even paying guys attention unless they had a booth. I came during the day time to have better luck when its less crowded and was told the VIP is just one open room and no extras are had there add that to the expensive prices at their bar and it was more reason why I have crossed both sting and ace of spades off my list.
I have not been there in years and years. Used to be filled with all hogs.
But tonight, there was a table of hot looking women, 2 of which were hitting the stage. All in all, the women were looking pretty good. Got visited by the sweetest looking little thing named moet. Take out was available, but there was no VIP room or way to get major extras there.
I don't get it, I wonder if I stepped into another dimension.
[QUOTE=StripperLover;2984404]Everyone here knows the going rate for some fun in the back VIP rooms. What about the guys who make it rain money on a dancer or the guy who tips a girl $10 while she's on stage? Hard to understand how some guys tip the girls when they'll do so much more in the back for another bill. I've got no problem tipping a bartender who goes out of the way to give me great service, just can't see sliding a girl a ten spot or more for dancing on the stage.[/QUOTE]You have a very nice point, and I always doubt the same thing.
Why, exactly, are these guys tipping for dances when they will do so much more in the VIP for another bill. I cudnt figure it out completely. Looks like there are people not interested in VIP and just spoil the market rate.
[QUOTE=Bacardi1314;2983391]Silver Rain.
Ace of Spades.
Trumpps.
3 clubs I noticed that I haven't heard anything about on here. Are they worth it? Again, I'm looking for mileage for fairly cheap.[/QUOTE]Trumpps is probably the place I visited most back when I started to go to clubs once I moved here. It's been a while though. My most recent experiences were after they had finished with a large renovation. I like the club layout, large and long main stage with seats all around, smaller booths surrounding the stage a little further than the seats up front and then there are larger booths a little elevated on a second level with side stages on the second level with a pole. VIP was upstairs and pretty secluded from everything else and had it's own small bar up there. On busy nights dancers would rotate from one end of the main stage to the other and then to the side stage before their rotation was done. From my experiences the girls were pretty hot 7's-10's mostly white but with a number black girls and a few asians. There was Valet and a cover (maybe no cover during days or weekdays but not sure) can't remember exact cost but Valet was $10 or under and maybe cover was $15-20 for weekends from what I remember. I remember a VIP tax of about $20 but it was worth it for extra privacy and made the girls more willing to negotiate knowing the VIP guy was tipped and it wouldn't come out of the money they were getting.
Had a number of good experiences there, lots of girls were very up front and offered extras right off the bat, but this was before the recent crack downs on 8 mile clubs and beyond so not sure what it is like now. Some asked for crazy amounts like $$$ for FS but I usually got what I wanted for $- $. 5 and I got involved with one girl in a dating / OTC relationship for a while. After I met her in the club got some dances and a CBJ to get to know each other, got her real name and number. She called me when I left the club and wanted to meet up when her shift was done, we met up at a diner and then ended up back in my place for some more fun. As always things start off well as long as the money keeps flowing which I was fine with me and it developed to more of a relationship that included more than just hooking up but soon with diminishing returns and her disinterest in actually treating me well she effectively killed the golden goose so to speak of our relationship. But I always had fun with other girls from Trumpps and I especially liked an asian girl that was a dancer / shot girl there that offered OTC fun went by Devina but her name was Melissa. Hope this helps and I might find myself going back now with all these memories. Hope it is still as I remember it. Anyone have more recent experiences?
[QUOTE=ILoveUtr;2986166]You have a very nice point, and I always doubt the same thing.
Why, exactly, are these guys tipping for dances when they will do so much more in the VIP for another bill. I cudnt figure it out completely. Looks like there are people not interested in VIP and just spoil the market rate.[/QUOTE]I don't tip girls on stage very often but when I do, I give them a $5 bill. To me, $5 seems to make a little bit of a statement. My thinking is that a dollar is a bit cheap and will attract no attention and a $10 says that I have enough to spend a lot of money, so you can expect higher rates in the back. A $5 says that I'm interested and there's money to be made but I'm not going overboard.
Having said all of that, more often than not, I will tip one of my semi regular girls if she's on stage when I walk in. Basically, it lets her know that I'm there and to come talk to me when she gets a chance, because we're likely going in the VIP.