Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=Gator145;4406519]As for having a girl leave her bag to go grab, think about this. Most of them pick up their bag from someones trash. They may have a couple dollar store items and some dirty clothes sticking out to make it look functional. So when she bounces the trusting guy is litterally left holding the bag.

It never ceases to amaze me at how many people simply don't learn from the mistakes of others. Time and time again we read the reports of this guy or that guy thinks he is so special and they have such a wonderful relationship going with a girl that she won't burn him. Are these guys for real? When a guy thinks these outlandish thoughts that's called manipulation. That's right she's manipulating you right where she wants you. Get it right. You are a nobody trick to her. You aren't her "regular", her "friend", her "savior", her confidant. You are nothing. The sooner you understand that the less cash you will lose to her.

As Lewdsun so aptly put it to me in a private message, you are nothing more to her than another blue bag. The value of a blue bag, in case you don't know, is $5. 00. So understanding that your value to her begins at $5. 00. Anything more is gravy. So from the moment she gets into your ride, she starts sticking it in to see how much she can get you for. Anyone that doesn't know that does not belong in this arena. Seems simple. Yet there are those that continually screw themselves by giving them upfront cash. She didn't run off with your money. You gave it to her. DUHHHHH!

So that makes these guys guilty of keeping this going on and on. My take is this. If she ran off with your money you got exactly what you deserved. Know why? Because you was so pussy drunk you let her shove it so far up your ass thinking you are that special one she wouldn't dick. Guess what? You was wrong, wrong, wrong. How many reports do you need to read before you figure it out? So this guy gives her twenty bucks. What did he think she would be right back? Why? Cause he's such a wonderful guy? Get fucking real. She had what she wanted.

Until every guy on this board refuses to give upfront cash this problem will continue. It really rakes me over the coals to think the members of this site can't stick together on this issue if they was all dipped in crazy glue.

This may come as a shock to some of you. Every girl on the strip wants as much as they can get from us for doing as little as possible. I'm glad some of you aren't my financial advisor handling my money. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]Gator, my point in reporting my experience is to provide intel and to vent at the bad experience. I've had regulars before where if we've seen each other enough times, it makes for a better date to help them out ahead of time with a Jackson or Hamilton. It works with some, and not with others. And in some cases, the girl will be good for a bit, then decide to one day run and dash, in which case then they burn their own bridges, and I move on to the next one. Now, others may do it differently, and you have a different perspective. Fine. We've all been doing this for a few years, and we each develop our own style and approaches. We share here our experiences, good and bad, and each then takes from them what they will. And when we do run into a bad experience, this forum gives us an opportunity to vent and to inform. Now, clearly others seem to have had good experiences with Emily, and I did for the first couple of dates as well, but she can also be shady. Not sure how the finger wagging and lecturing from you really helps here, aside from just discouraging others from posting their bad experiences to avoid the drama and irritation here on the board from the peanut gallery. Now can we go back to actually focusing on the mongering experience and save the commentary?

Keep Huntin,

AC.

[QUOTE=Gator145;4406519]As for having a girl leave her bag to go grab, think about this. Most of them pick up their bag from someones trash. They may have a couple dollar store items and some dirty clothes sticking out to make it look functional. So when she bounces the trusting guy is litterally left holding the bag.

It never ceases to amaze me at how many people simply don't learn from the mistakes of others. Time and time again we read the reports of this guy or that guy thinks he is so special and they have such a wonderful relationship going with a girl that she won't burn him. Are these guys for real? When a guy thinks these outlandish thoughts that's called manipulation. That's right she's manipulating you right where she wants you. Get it right. You are a nobody trick to her. You aren't her "regular", her "friend", her "savior", her confidant. You are nothing. The sooner you understand that the less cash you will lose to her.

As Lewdsun so aptly put it to me in a private message, you are nothing more to her than another blue bag. The value of a blue bag, in case you don't know, is $5. 00. So understanding that your value to her begins at $5. 00. Anything more is gravy. So from the moment she gets into your ride, she starts sticking it in to see how much she can get you for. Anyone that doesn't know that does not belong in this arena. Seems simple. Yet there are those that continually screw themselves by giving them upfront cash. She didn't run off with your money. You gave it to her. DUHHHHH!

So that makes these guys guilty of keeping this going on and on. My take is this. If she ran off with your money you got exactly what you deserved. Know why? Because you was so pussy drunk you let her shove it so far up your ass thinking you are that special one she wouldn't dick. Guess what? You was wrong, wrong, wrong. How many reports do you need to read before you figure it out? So this guy gives her twenty bucks. What did he think she would be right back? Why? Cause he's such a wonderful guy? Get fucking real. She had what she wanted.

Until every guy on this board refuses to give upfront cash this problem will continue. It really rakes me over the coals to think the members of this site can't stick together on this issue if they was all dipped in crazy glue.

This may come as a shock to some of you. Every girl on the strip wants as much as they can get from us for doing as little as possible. I'm glad some of you aren't my financial advisor handling my money. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's because I fish in a smaller pond ie, wilmington, but what I mentioned usually works for me. I've been ripped off once and had it work out many many times. I forgot to mention I only let them do that if I'm planning on taking them to a motel but never a quicky car date. For the motel dates they usually come back for the Grant on top of the Hamilton.

Sorry didn't meant to ruffle your feathers on this. I really respect you and what you bring to this forum. I've learned a lot from things you have said and I guess this is a lesson on philly learned. Didn't mean to advocate making it easier for the girls to rip guys off just thought I was giving some helpful advice.

[QUOTE=Strange;4406864]Maybe it's because I fish in a smaller pond ie, wilmington, but what I mentioned usually works for me. I've been ripped off once and had it work out many many times. I forgot to mention I only let them do that if I'm planning on taking them to a motel but never a quicky car date. For the motel dates they usually come back for the Grant on top of the Hamilton.

Sorry didn't meant to ruffle your feathers on this. I really respect you and what you bring to this forum. I've learned a lot from things you have said and I guess this is a lesson on philly learned. Didn't mean to advocate making it easier for the girls to rip guys off just thought I was giving some helpful advice.[/QUOTE]We each do what works for us and at least I appreciated your the feedback. Apparently some on the Philly board think they presumably speak for all of us and have a tendency to get on a high horse. Kind of strange (no pun intended) for anyone to judge anyone else on a monger board. I generally just ignore it unless it's purposefully directed at me personally as it was in this case. Then I say my piece and move on. I've ventured down to Wilmington here and there and depend on the advise and intel from regulars on that board like yourself that was very helpful.

Happy Hunting,

AC.

[QUOTE=DonTrask;4377554]Quite a night for firsts, spotted a spinner redhead calling herself Dee just off K Avenue. I suggested the Carlyle and she wanted the money in advance to pick up some candy in advance of the session. I tell her "No way", I'm happy to drop her back on the Avenue but she suggests a flop $10 room in the neighborhood and when she's finished, she can do her own business on her own time.

A first for me but also probably a last because the set up is so filthy that I refuse to lay bed and made her take a pillow so she wouldn't scuff her knees and proceeded to face fuck her hard and fast just to get it done and over with. She was a good sport and took everything I dished out including a bonus size serving of baby batter. A good attitude, a skilled mouth, just not sure about parking my car on a side street and suffering the indignities of entering a private home that is the filthiest I have ever seen.[/QUOTE]D is one of those girls who you just wonder how did she wind up on the ave. I met her the beginning of last winter by K&A and she told me she had a few years of sobriety and was married at one time. Her mic skills are above average and she's a really cool chick. Completely done up and clean I bet she's a bombshell. D is one of the few women on the ave who try to look presentable and ladylike even though she's living rough and she is a Kensington girl to the core. While others wear dirty unwashed sweatpants and tshirts D will somehow find a long flowing dress or an elegant top fit for a dinner date.

Unfortunately she has one of the worse habits I have ever seen and I really don't see any hope. Making matters worse, about a week ago something really really bad happened to her. She has a black eye and looks like she fell off from a motorcycle but that's not what happened. I don't want to put it on here but if you see / know her she will tell you.

[QUOTE=Strange;4406864]Maybe it's because I fish in a smaller pond ie, wilmington, but what I mentioned usually works for me. I've been ripped off once and had it work out many many times. I forgot to mention I only let them do that if I'm planning on taking them to a motel but never a quicky car date. For the motel dates they usually come back for the Grant on top of the Hamilton.

Sorry didn't meant to ruffle your feathers on this. I really respect you and what you bring to this forum. I've learned a lot from things you have said and I guess this is a lesson on philly learned. Didn't mean to advocate making it easier for the girls to rip guys off just thought I was giving some helpful advice.[/QUOTE]Nahhhhh. Feathers aren't ruffled. Just hate seeing guys lose their money then sit back and wonder why after they gave it to the most trusted junkie in Kensington. I am passionate on this because its the guys that are doing it to themselves. They don't need to do that if they use their head and some plain old common sense. The girl is simply the catalyst to make it all work. Think about this. If any of us hand a dope addict $20.00 and expect them to return I have but one question. Why would they? We can all see just how foolish that concept is.

Reminds me of the old joke about the kid that goes to the house of pleasure. Tells a woman he would like to get fucked. She says to tie a twenty-dollar bill to the string hanging out of that window over there. He does and he waits and waits. The woman never comes out. So he bangs on the door. Window on the second floor opens and a woman yells down to him What do you want boy? He answers I want to get fucked. She answers What again?

I haven't been in the Wilmington area for over 30 years. So I don't know what is offered there anymore nor if the risk level is any greater than Philly. Philly is a way different animal than let's say, Delaware, NY, NJ from the way I remember to name just a few. Not sure why. Probably because the beast is a lot bigger here.

My comments are a generalization at best and not directed toward any one person. So if it seemed that way then I hope this clarifies the misconception. My point is people hit the Philly strip thinking things won't happen to them. They get robbed and even worse for trusting the wrong person. Then to put that trust in Kensingtons finest Junkie shoots the risk level to the top of the scale. The best advice I can offer anybody running on the Philly streets is to always remain in control. Lose your cash one loses control. That simple. Never part with cash here until one gets what's expected for the sum they wish to part with.

Cash and dash is a major issue to deal with here. When a guy gives a Junkie upfront cash he makes it difficult for everyone else out there. That makes them a huge part of the problem. I'm trying to wake them up to that fact. Set the rules and you set your safety level. Bend them and be prepared to lose every time. For a person to remain safe on our streets they must remain in control at all times. So when in Philly the customer always has to be ready to walk away if they do not get what they want. They do it at Best Buy or Walmart. It's a matter of safety.

A week ago here a girl shot a trick. I don't know the particulars. I don't believe they know each other. Maybe in passing but no more than that. She may have seen him drive by her a few times. Other than that they most likely are strangers. Originally that guy didn't set out to get shot. He set out to get his needs met. Somewhere in the process he screwed up with that girl. May have been something minor. Yet she picked up on it and jumped on the chance.

I have no doubt the issue was money-related. So now that the girls are carrying guns it might be time to wake up and gain back the control that's been lost. Never go on our streets with any more than one is prepared to lose. The most foolish thing anybody can do here is going out looking for pussy and be willing to get it at any cost.

When on Philly streets looking for some strange set the parameters. Set the rules. Break either and be prepared to go home holding willy. That's just the way it is here. Don't give her anything she asks for. She's testing to see what she can get for nothing.

Getting her to leave her purse is a gamble. Like I pointed out most times they won't have enough of value in them to cover the cost of a stick of gum. May have worked a few times. A time will come when it won't. The only way I would agree is if she leaves a working phone which most don't have. Then only give her max $10.00. That will take the edge off if she's "sick". Any more she needs she can get when the show is over.

I don't want to see anyone lose their money out there. Guys or girls. The only way that will happen is if people have boundaries and don't cross them. Cash upfront only hastens the inevitable. Cash upfront? Only if what she's willing to leave as collateral has a higher value than what she's asking for. That's rare one can offer that.

I talk with other experienced mongers that have had ongoing relationships with girls. Some, they have seen for months and even longer. They will tell you they trusted a girl thinking she wouldn't mess with her fix ticket. Yet at some point they do. One reason is this. As a habit continues it becomes worse. They become more and more desperate. So it stands to reason it eventually will happen.

Ever know an addict / user to have a laundry list of friends? Nope. That's cause they have screwed everyone that ever cared for them. Hell if their own family doesn't trust them why should we?

It's crazy because it bursts a bubble guys have become comfortable in. I guess people will continually be under the impression "she wouldn't do that to me". Any particular reason why not? She will.

When in the streets of Philly it's important to keep in our mind we are the difference between a girl being "sick and well". She will do whatever it takes to not be sick. Including taking whatever money handed her and bounce. Then she will laugh at you the next time you drive by her. Save yourself the humiliation. You deserve better.

As stated by Acro they burn their own bridges. I agree. No lecture or finger-wagging intended here. As stated my post is a generalization and directed at no individual person. If the shoe fits well can't help that. Maybe after reading a post, it might prevent financial loss to one or more for greater than a few dollars here and there. The intent is to hopefully prevent others from going through a bad experience needlessly.

I appreciate and value a difference of opinion on here. I respect those that may offer the other side of the coin through their own experience. That helps us all. We need to always be alert when going into the lions den. We shouldn't pick and choose which will attack. By understanding they are all capable of destruction we can remain at a safer level. To think one of the lions won't destroy us is simply a foolish gamble.

Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

Every now and again I've found a "friend" that I trust to behave rationally in terms of long term perspective, but, invariably, they will eventually make me regret it. It doesn't even have to be malicious, or theft; these women are addicts. They might pass out and simply forget, or get distracted. They also often know that long term planning is unrealistic when it's so hard to hang onto the same phone.

Bottom line. If you trust out here, you will loose at times.

[QUOTE=Gator145;4408261]Nahhhhh. Feathers aren't ruffled. Just hate seeing guys lose their money then sit back and wonder why after they gave it to the most trusted junkie in Kensington. I am passionate on this because its the guys that are doing it to themselves. They don't need to do that if they use their head and some plain old common sense. The girl is simply the catalyst to make it all work. Think about this. If any of us hand a dope addict $20.00 and expect them to return I have but one question. Why would they? We can all see just how foolish that concept is.

Reminds me of the old joke about the kid that goes to the house of pleasure. Tells a woman he would like to get fucked. She says to tie a twenty-dollar bill to the string hanging out of that window over there. He does and he waits and waits. The woman never comes out. So he bangs on the door. Window on the second floor opens and a woman yells down to him What do you want boy? He answers I want to get fucked. She answers What again?

I haven't been in the Wilmington area for over 30 years. So I don't know what is offered there anymore nor if the risk level is any greater than Philly. Philly is a way different animal than let's say, Delaware, NY, NJ from the way I remember to name just a few. Not sure why. Probably because the beast is a lot bigger here..[/QUOTE]

Every once in awhile but not often, the Mongering gods smile down on you and reward you with a rare gift; a first time SW that is just out for their first time. Keep in mind, that's the story she told me and for the most part, I take everything that a SW says with a grain of salt but this time, I believed her.

Pick her up on K Ave down from the 7-11 and she got in real nervous and skittish. I didn't press the matter but just talked her off the ledge because I didn't know if she was wired on drugs or just that nervous. She's young, no sign of candy use and told me that her husband would kill her if he knew what she was doing which makes me nervous that I am about to unload a week's worth of baby batter down the gullet of a married woman. She told me that she hated BJ's which is ironic because that is the staple on the K Avenue night life. She was alright but the nicest part was a tight clean pussy that she let me play with while she did the deed.

She gave me the number but I don't think I would ever call her, burner phone or not. For whatever reason, she needed to make some quick cash and I was willing to pay for the service but I'm not sure I want to be an ongoing issue in someone else's married life. I would rather pay the K Ave provider that I don't know what their marital status which I mostly assume is single because really, if you were married, would you want your wife walking K Ave? Ya, me neither.

[QUOTE=JTown74;4408682]Every now and again I've found a friend that I trust to behave rationally in terms of long term perspective, but, invariably, they will eventually make me regret it. It doesn't even have to be malicious, or theft; these women are addicts. They might pass out and simply forget, or get distracted. They also often know that long term planning is unrealistic when it's so hard to hang onto the same phone.

Bottom line. If you trust out here, you will loose at times.[/QUOTE]Yes, you ride it out and have the fun while it's there, then when they cross that line you move on. And we share what we know on here when they are in the upswing as well as the down so others are informed. Should be just that simple.

Happy Huntin,

AC.

[QUOTE=Gator145;4408261]Nahhhhh. Feathers aren't ruffled. Just hate seeing guys lose their money then sit back and wonder why after they gave it to the most trusted junkie in Kensington. I am passionate on this because its the guys that are doing it to themselves. They don't need to do that if they use their head and some plain old common sense. The girl is simply the catalyst to make it all work. Think about this. If any of us hand a dope addict $20.00 and expect them to return I have but one question. Why would they? We can all see just how foolish that concept is.

Reminds me of the old joke about the kid that goes to the house of pleasure. Tells a woman he would like to get fucked. She says to tie a twenty-dollar bill to the string hanging out of that window over there. He does and he waits and waits. The woman never comes out. So he bangs on the door. Window on the second floor opens and a woman yells down to him What do you want boy? He answers I want to get fucked. She answers What again?

I haven't been in the Wilmington area for over 30 years. So I don't know what is offered there anymore nor if the risk level is any greater than Philly. Philly is a way different animal than let's say, Delaware, NY, NJ from the way I remember to name just a few. Not sure why. Probably because the beast is a lot bigger here.

My comments are a generalization at best and not directed toward any one person. So if it seemed that way then I hope this clarifies the misconception. My point is people hit the Philly strip thinking things won't happen to them. They get robbed and even worse for trusting the wrong person. Then to put that trust in Kensingtons finest Junkie shoots the risk level to the top of the scale. The best advice I can offer anybody running on the Philly streets is to always remain in control. Lose your cash one loses control. That simple. Never part with cash here until one gets what's expected for the sum they wish to part with.

Cash and dash is a major issue to deal with here. When a guy gives a Junkie upfront cash he makes it difficult for everyone else out there. That makes them a huge part of the problem. I'm trying to wake them up to that fact. Set the rules and you set your safety level. Bend them and be prepared to lose every time. For a person to remain safe on our streets they must remain in control at all times. So when in Philly the customer always has to be ready to walk away if they do not get what they want. They do it at Best Buy or Walmart. It's a matter of safety.

A week ago here a girl shot a trick. I don't know the particulars. I don't believe they know each other. Maybe in passing but no more than that. She may have seen him drive by her a few times. Other than that they most likely are strangers. Originally that guy didn't set out to get shot. He set out to get his needs met. Somewhere in the process he screwed up with that girl. May have been something minor. Yet she picked up on it and jumped on the chance.

I have no doubt the issue was money-related. So now that the girls are carrying guns it might be time to wake up and gain back the control that's been lost. Never go on our streets with any more than one is prepared to lose. The most foolish thing anybody can do here is going out looking for pussy and be willing to get it at any cost.

When on Philly streets looking for some strange set the parameters. Set the rules. Break either and be prepared to go home holding willy. That's just the way it is here. Don't give her anything she asks for. She's testing to see what she can get for nothing.

Getting her to leave her purse is a gamble. Like I pointed out most times they won't have enough of value in them to cover the cost of a stick of gum. May have worked a few times. A time will come when it won't. The only way I would agree is if she leaves a working phone which most don't have. Then only give her max $10.00. That will take the edge off if she's "sick". Any more she needs she can get when the show is over.

I don't want to see anyone lose their money out there. Guys or girls. The only way that will happen is if people have boundaries and don't cross them. Cash upfront only hastens the inevitable. Cash upfront? Only if what she's willing to leave as collateral has a higher value than what she's asking for. That's rare one can offer that.

I talk with other experienced mongers that have had ongoing relationships with girls. Some, they have seen for months and even longer. They will tell you they trusted a girl thinking she wouldn't mess with her fix ticket. Yet at some point they do. One reason is this. As a habit continues it becomes worse. They become more and more desperate. So it stands to reason it eventually will happen.

Ever know an addict / user to have a laundry list of friends? Nope. That's cause they have screwed everyone that ever cared for them. Hell if their own family doesn't trust them why should we?

It's crazy because it bursts a bubble guys have become comfortable in. I guess people will continually be under the impression "she wouldn't do that to me". Any particular reason why not? She will.

When in the streets of Philly it's important to keep in our mind we are the difference between a girl being "sick and well". She will do whatever it takes to not be sick. Including taking whatever money handed her and bounce. Then she will laugh at you the next time you drive by her. Save yourself the humiliation. You deserve better.

As stated by Acro they burn their own bridges. I agree. No lecture or finger-wagging intended here. As stated my post is a generalization and directed at no individual person. If the shoe fits well can't help that. Maybe after reading a post, it might prevent financial loss to one or more for greater than a few dollars here and there. The intent is to hopefully prevent others from going through a bad experience needlessly.

I appreciate and value a difference of opinion on here. I respect those that may offer the other side of the coin through their own experience. That helps us all. We need to always be alert when going into the lions den. We shouldn't pick and choose which will attack. By understanding they are all capable of destruction we can remain at a safer level. To think one of the lions won't destroy us is simply a foolish gamble.

Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]Discussion is what this forum is all about. I do have hard and fast rules in place to keep me and my wallet safe. Sometimes I may gamble with my money if the payout is good enough to justify it. If I lose that's on me. Not standard practice for me but sometimes it's worth it to make sure the girl is happy if your going to be spending an hour or two at the notel. Last thing I want is her rushing me there because she wants to get back.

I try to never gamble with my safety though. The one time I got ripped off she actually said we could use her house. Went in and it was a local gang hangout needless to say I wasn't in there more than a minute. Then she tried to have us do it just inside the back door, again no just wanted to hit the notel. She said she left something and said she'd be back out. Didn't see her again. It was worth losing the Hamilton to guarantee my safety so I just wrote it off. That girl would have gotten a lot more of my money in future business if she had just played straight with me. Her loss. Would have loved to of banged some of the young cuties that were in that hangout house, the girl that took me there was cute, the girls inside were hot. Not worth getting shot over.

I guess we all just have to set our own boundaries and know the consequences of bending them.

[QUOTE=DonTrask;4408812]Every once in awhile but not often, the Mongering gods smile down on you and reward you with a rare gift; a first time SW that is just out for their first time. Keep in mind, that's the story she told me and for the most part, I take everything that a SW says with a grain of salt but this time, I believed her.

Pick her up on K Ave down from the 7-11 and she got in real nervous and skittish. I didn't press the matter but just talked her off the ledge because I didn't know if she was wired on drugs or just that nervous. She's young, no sign of candy use and told me that her husband would kill her if he knew what she was doing which makes me nervous that I am about to unload a week's worth of baby batter down the gullet of a married woman. She told me that she hated BJ's which is ironic because that is the staple on the K Avenue night life. She was alright but the nicest part was a tight clean pussy that she let me play with while she did the deed.

She gave me the number but I don't think I would ever call her, burner phone or not. For whatever reason, she needed to make some quick cash and I was willing to pay for the service but I'm not sure I want to be an ongoing issue in someone else's married life. I would rather pay the K Ave provider that I don't know what their marital status which I mostly assume is single because really, if you were married, would you want your wife walking K Ave? Ya, me neither.[/QUOTE]In one way or another a lot of girls you pick up will give you a story (or a line) about how they don't escort that often but it's probably mostly a lie. They know people judge them and what they do so saying that helps them appear more innocent.

Anyway, just download a text app to call her. No need to buy a burner phone.

[QUOTE=Gator145;4408261]

I talk with other experienced mongers that have had ongoing relationships with girls. Some, they have seen for months and even longer. They will tell you they trusted a girl thinking she wouldn't mess with her fix ticket. Yet at some point they do. One reason is this. As a habit continues it becomes worse. They become more and more desperate. So it stands to reason it eventually will happen.

Ever know an addict / user to have a laundry list of friends? Nope. That's cause they have screwed everyone that ever cared for them. Hell if their own family doesn't trust them why should we?

.[/QUOTE]Yep, this is true. I have gotten close to a few girls with habits and noticed that none of them have any girlfriends or real female friends. It's mostly because they constantly steal from each other.

One popular girl on here who I won't name I took to Wawa for some food and once we get back in my car she's pulling items out of her clothes that she stole. She said every time she goes to wawa she steals items no matter what. She didn't have to steal anything I was right there and could have paid for it along with the other items I bought for her. I was upset she should have done that on her own time.

Another girl I took to Walmart and she stole stuff without my knowledge. I'm reluctant to take anyone to the store now because if they steal something I could also get into trouble. I'm no saint, I stole candy as a dumb youth from the corner store but when you're over 21 the stakes are much higher and you should know better.

And yes for many of these girls their own family don't even want them or trust them. During this past winter I took this girl back to her parents house as she had no place to go and found out within a few hours she was thrown back out again into the streets. She quickly found some guy to live with for a few weeks.

The only people in these girls lives when they are full blown drug addicts are the different men to various different capacities. They just float around from one man to another to support their habit and keep a roof over their head. As time goes on if they keep using their temptation to scam or steal gets greater because they get older all while their habit increases so they get more desperate to steal since the money doesn't come as easily as it use to.

[QUOTE=Lance547;4409132]In one way or another a lot of girls you pick up will give you a story (or a line) about how they don't escort that often but it's probably mostly a lie. They know people judge them and what they do so saying that helps them appear more innocent.

Anyway, just download a text app to call her. No need to buy a burner phone.[/QUOTE]Text app sounds interesting. Haven't heard of that. Can you lead me in the direction of a good one?

Last week I made a new friend named Isabella. I really enjoyed her company, she was much brighter and more engaging than typical, and seemed a lot cleaner as well. A few weeks later, I gave her a ride from NJ and hoped for a more GFE kind of experience. I sort of knew I might be in trouble when she wanted to stop and get her keys from a friend on the ave first, but I thought I'd let it play out and we went to the Carlisle.

I should not have.

She took some chemicals, got wonky, and I lost interest. Gave her cash to get rid of her. She was nodding out walking back to car, and I told her I'd pick her up instead. Came back, she's gone. Looked around, no sign of her. Someone told me she found a civi who tried helping her. Next day I got a weird text.

Good for a car date, but don't go past it. Very attractive.

Part of the problem with addiction and recovery is that to come back, you need to be surrounded by community, have routine, and have responsibilities. But once you're at this level, you've typically alienated friends / family, and you're unemployable. To come back you need a support network, but when you're and addict, you alienate support.

[QUOTE=Lance547;4409227]Yep, this is true. I have gotten close to a few girls with habits and noticed that none of them have any girlfriends or real female friends. It's mostly because they constantly steal from each other.

One popular girl on here who I won't name I took to Wawa for some food and once we get back in my car she's pulling items out of her clothes that she stole. She said every time she goes to wawa she steals items no matter what. She didn't have to steal anything I was right there and could have paid for it along with the other items I bought for her. I was upset she should have done that on her own time.

Another girl I took to Walmart and she stole stuff without my knowledge. I'm reluctant to take anyone to the store now because if they steal something I could also get into trouble. I'm no saint, I stole candy as a dumb youth from the corner store but when you're over 21 the stakes are much higher and you should know better..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JTown74;4410133]Part of the problem with addiction and recovery is that to come back, you need to be surrounded by community, have routine, and have responsibilities. But once you're at this level, you've typically alienated friends / family, and you're unemployable. To come back you need a support network, but when you're and addict, you alienate support.[/QUOTE]Yea, that's true. One girl told me she has been escorting for so long and money comes so easy she don't know how to do anything else. Must be hard to go from quick tax free money to working for minimum wage.