Seeking Arrangement

[QUOTE=TrollingTheD;4505708]41 year old blond. Started chatting and agreed to do a meet for coffee and see if we got along. We did so decided to go out at a later date. Wife left town so we met for a drink. She was fun to be around and after a couple she invited me back to her place. He place was nicer than mine, fully stocked bar in the basement, dart board, juke box. Fucked all all night, raw dog, cream pie, had a blast. Only rule as could not touch her head or hair. Ended up seeing her a few times until the the fun ended when summer came and had to stop dropping money every month. If you see her tell her I said hello![/QUOTE]Nice, I had a couple like that off SA. I was never able to connect with the one you're talking about but she always looked hot.

I've been sticking with the dating apps the last month and been saving lots of money LOL.

Awesome can you share her info.

[QUOTE=TrollingTheD;4505708]41 year old blond. Started chatting and agreed to do a meet for coffee and see if we got along. We did so decided to go out at a later date. Wife left town so we met for a drink. She was fun to be around and after a couple she invited me back to her place. He place was nicer than mine, fully stocked bar in the basement, dart board, juke box. Fucked all all night, raw dog, cream pie, had a blast. Only rule as could not touch her head or hair. Ended up seeing her a few times until the the fun ended when summer came and had to stop dropping money every month. If you see her tell her I said hello![/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

Be aware of this girl she is a scam artist she has done this to me and two other mongers in the same method.

Asks for money to be dropped off at her home In Trenton while she is at work so a bill can be paid by her mother and promises to meet you later it's all a con.

The final straw is she thinks she finds your info and threatens to contact your wife or significant other she works at Halloween city in Ann Arbor.

She is a fraud.

She has opened or closed her account making a new name several times on seeking.

Be careful out there.

Kayla 734xxxx077.

See pics below.

[QUOTE=AAbrams;4513534]Hey guys,

Be aware of this girl she is a scam artist she has done this to me and two other mongers in the same method.

Asks for money to be dropped off at her home In Trenton while she is at work so a bill can be paid by her mother and promises to meet you later it's all a con.

The final straw is she thinks she finds your info and threatens to contact your wife or significant other she works at Halloween city in Ann Arbor.

She is a fraud.

She has opened or closed her account making a new name several times on seeking.

Be careful out there.

Kayla 734xxxx077.

See pics below.[/QUOTE]Can confirm this report. Told me her rent was due and had all but 80 of it. Had to get it to her mother by 9 pm and she worked until 10 pm.

[QUOTE=AAbrams;4513519]Awesome can you share her info.[/QUOTE]Her screen name on SA is Just ME 123. If anyone would like to contact her you would have to do so on SA. She has a normal 9-5 that would be jeopardized if her side hustle was exposed. So I will not be providing her personal information. If you would like to speak to or go out with her you will have to arrange it through the SA website.

[QUOTE=AAbrams;4513534]Hey guys,

Be aware of this girl she is a scam artist she has done this to me and two other mongers in the same method.

Asks for money to be dropped off at her home In Trenton while she is at work so a bill can be paid by her mother and promises to meet you later it's all a con.

The final straw is she thinks she finds your info and threatens to contact your wife or significant other she works at Halloween city in Ann Arbor.

She is a fraud.

She has opened or closed her account making a new name several times on seeking.

Be careful out there.

Kayla 734xxxx077.

See pics below.[/QUOTE]Found her Facebook and she has a pretty shady looking boyfriend. I never made contact with her but was able to trace the number she messaged me back to her real info. I could tell it was def a set up without actually having to talk to her.

[QUOTE=TrollingTheD;4514026]Her screen name on SA is Just ME 123. If anyone would like to contact her you would have to do so on SA. She has a normal 9-5 that would be jeopardized if her side hustle was exposed. So I will not be providing her personal information. If you would like to speak to or go out with her you will have to arrange it through the SA website.[/QUOTE]Good for you my friend.

[QUOTE=AAbrams;4513534]Hey guys,

Be aware of this girl she is a scam artist she has done this to me and two other mongers in the same method.

Asks for money to be dropped off at her home In Trenton while she is at work so a bill can be paid by her mother and promises to meet you later it's all a con.

The final straw is she thinks she finds your info and threatens to contact your wife or significant other she works at Halloween city in Ann Arbor.

She is a fraud.

She has opened or closed her account making a new name several times on seeking.

Be careful out there.

Kayla 734xxxx077.

See pics below.[/QUOTE]Bro! She pulled the same stuff on me. Talked a good game on what she was open to doing. Convo was going good then she hit me with the rent due and she needs $80. Even sent me an address and everything. Based on my last experience that I posted, I was having it but I told her I would bring her the money if she was willing to meet up. Now here come the excuses. After that didn't work, next she needs $40 for her phone bill or she won't be able to text me. Smh. Glad I didn't fall for that crap.

Good thing you didn't give her the money next would of been the threats to tell your wife and significant other.

She needs to be taken down ridiculous.

Be safe guys.

[QUOTE=JohnInv;4515682]Bro! She pulled the same stuff on me. Talked a good game on what she was open to doing. Convo was going good then she hit me with the rent due and she needs $80. Even sent me an address and everything. Based on my last experience that I posted, I was having it but I told her I would bring her the money if she was willing to meet up. Now here come the excuses. After that didn't work, next she needs $40 for her phone bill or she won't be able to text me. Smh. Glad I didn't fall for that crap.[/QUOTE]

Well the con artist was fired today from Halloween city in ann arbor A fellow monger went in to speak to management (no clue why LOL) another employee confirmed that she was fired two days ago something about a fighting match a male customer LOL probably regarding her con work.

[QUOTE=JohnInv;4515682]Bro! She pulled the same stuff on me. Talked a good game on what she was open to doing. Convo was going good then she hit me with the rent due and she needs $80. Even sent me an address and everything. Based on my last experience that I posted, I was having it but I told her I would bring her the money if she was willing to meet up. Now here come the excuses. After that didn't work, next she needs $40 for her phone bill or she won't be able to text me. Smh. Glad I didn't fall for that crap.[/QUOTE]

What's a typical allowance (obviously YMMV) for these girls? I've been hesitant to upgrade my account to premium because I don't want to end up with just a bunch of GPS girls hitting me up. Are the arrangements ever reasonable?

[QUOTE=Ocjm82;4517535]What's a typical allowance (obviously YMMV) for these girls? I've been hesitant to upgrade my account to premium because I don't want to end up with just a bunch of GPS girls hitting me up. Are the arrangements ever reasonable?[/QUOTE]You're going to have to spend a lot of money in paying memberships if you want to find a reliable and good looking sugar baby.

SA site is flooded right now with broke girls, drug addicts, ex-BP escorts, fat girls and a bunch of fake profiles.

Last weekend I meet with a SB who looked very hot in her pics but when I saw her in person I had to give her $20 for the gas to, go back to her home because she looked extremely rough with a super raspy voice. It was disgusting.

[QUOTE=Ocjm82;4517535]What's a typical allowance (obviously YMMV) for these girls? I've been hesitant to upgrade my account to premium because I don't want to end up with just a bunch of GPS girls hitting me up. Are the arrangements ever reasonable?[/QUOTE]Its all about the negotiation, what level of SB you are comfortable with, and having a half way decent game. If you're just looking to get a nut, you can probably find something in the 100-150 range, however as was previously mentioned theres a lot of pro's and drug addicts on SA right now. Theres also a ton of desirable women waiting to spend time with the right guy. You will find their needs from one end of the spectrum to the other.

I met with one a couple weeks ago, 40 ish, smoking hot and DTF. Met for coffee to discuss terms. She gave the typical lost her job, down on her luck story, need help with bills etc. She was very comfortable talking about sex and what was on and off the table. She was also able to host which saves at least 100 every date. We agreed on 300 per date She had a very obvious runny nose which I assumed was a nose candy issue. I could have nailed her after coffee, but told her I'd call her and set something up. I always try to get a full name which allows me to to a little background check. She didn't have any criminal record. My little head got the best of me, so I told her I was short on cash and could do 200. We made a date. Went to her condo in a decent suburb. After a little small talk, she told me she didn't have any condoms, but I looked ok so we wouldn't need any. That was the second red flag. I always bring my own. She was OK in the sack, pretty wide open menu, but the constant runny nose was a big issue for me, so I won't repeat.

My regular SB is an early 30's single woman. She lives a good distance from me but travels to see me and we meet at a hotel 5 minutes from my work. She is probably a 7 on a scale of 10. Nice body, well spoken and she is a freak in the sack. She also has a job and a private life. Did a little background check and nothing negative, Like me, she prefers to be discreet. We met a couple of times before becoming intimate. It was important to HER to feel comfortable with me. Thats a big plus. I give her 250 whenever we meet and sometimes a little extra to help with her bills. I've been seeing her for a while and feel that we have developed a certain level of trust. I've also met women who are totally unrealistic in their expectatkonsand will most likely never find a guy that will accommodate them. My point is that there are all types of women on SA who are available. I'm in my mid 60's and have been around this lifestyle a long time, so I can usually get a pretty good read on a woman right away. My advice is to figure out what you can afford, tread very carefully and use your instincts to get a read on the SB and decide if her expectations are realistic. Happy hunting, theres a ton of them out there waiting.

[QUOTE=Ocjm82;4517535]What's a typical allowance (obviously YMMV) for these girls? I've been hesitant to upgrade my account to premium because I don't want to end up with just a bunch of GPS girls hitting me up. Are the arrangements ever reasonable?[/QUOTE]A lot of this is your level of comfort. The previous posts outlined great expectations and how it can be wide and varied. I just wanted to provide a few other points that sometimes goes under the radar. The first is expectations from you. Once you establish something, honor your word and be stand up about it. I've talked to too many SBs in the past that have had problems with there is an agreement and then the SD will try to change it after one or two meetings. Either it works out or it doesn't. If after a few meetings you find she's not the one for you, just break it or better yet talk with her about expectations you were wanting.

One other thing to consider is perks / alternative allowances. I've had a lot of success with talking with potential SBs, offer what I consider a low allowance of 300-500 per month, but then take them on a trip somewhere with me once every three months. I already travel four to five times a year, and buying an extra ticket isn't that big of a deal for me. Usually I give a little extra for spending but really that's it. Women can show you how appreciative they are when you do this and it's kind of a win win, I'm not inviting large risk into my hotel rooms from local SB talent or pros, and I build a solid foundation of trust and provide experiences the SB wants. This in itself has netted me some gorgeous SBs, even ones that aren't suffering from "I'm hot, why try in bed" syndrome.

One last point is duration. Be up front with duration. Is this a pay per meet or are you looking for something ongoing? If ongoing, I always tell them I want to start off PPM, until we build comfort and trust then move to monthly. Even then I still only pay half of the month up front and the other half two weeks later. That's the risk level that I'm willing to accept. You'll have to determine your own risk exposure.

I've done the SB thing for on and off 5 years now, some really bad experiences that I'm open to sharing (the stories, not the woman) and also had some really great and truly wonderful experiences. I learned from my mistakes, but most of all what made me successful was learning to communicate what I was expecting.

Thank you both for the thorough responses.