Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=DarkTraveler;7509865]I am not talking about men adjacent to or dating dancers. Real 16's and their 304's make up nearly the entirety of the low cost FS scene in these clubs. A girl may move between different P's or stay with the same one for years, all while having babies, showing a normal life on instagram and living with a boyfriend. You may occasionally catch a renegade on solo but she is always soon enough back with a P. Its usually well hidden and you would never know if you aren't at after parties and other events.

My main purpose in sharing this is so mongers don't get too caught up thinking there is a serious connection with someone, or throwing extra money at a girl to help them out. All the $$ is going to a P 99% of the time. It is a whole lifestyle and sometimes mutually beneficial in ways I won't get into. I am not for or against it.

16's and 304's travel here because there is no other club scene like it in the country.[/QUOTE]What is a 16 and 304?

[QUOTE=Bmarr77;7510988]What is a 16 and 304?[/QUOTE]"304" = hoe.

It comes from a calculator joke: 304 upside-down spells "hOE. " Online it's used (usually derogatorily) to mean a woman who's seen as promiscuous or doing sex work.

"16" = a pimp / handler.

It's code used on some boards to refer to the guy managing or controlling the dancer's work, money, travel, etc.

Wow this post took me back to the mid 80's.

I worked as a DJ at a few of the clubs where most of the girls gave the money they made to their boyfriends. Most the guys were in bar bands and slept till 4 pm, partied at the bar with friends while their woman was on stage. They would say when he makes it big I will then have great life living the rock and roll dream.

[QUOTE=Stewy56;7508558]Its often a very blurry line between some so-called "boyfriends" and "pimps" as many boyfriends are directly supported by the dancers. If the so-called "boyfriends" are supported by the dancers that essentially makes them "pimps" in some peoples eyes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LazyLover;7511011]"304" = hoe.

It comes from a calculator joke: 304 upside-down spells "hOE. " Online it's used (usually derogatorily) to mean a woman who's seen as promiscuous or doing sex work.

"16" = a pimp / handler.

It's code used on some boards to refer to the guy managing or controlling the dancer's work, money, travel, etc.[/QUOTE]Jeeeeeeeeeee susssssssssssss Christ.

I deleted my other comment. Nothing more needs to be said.

I only get to Detroit once in a long while, but I have had OTC success in nearby states particularly in recent years. Of course with success also comes failure. For the many strippers I've seen OTC there have been many I never could or whose asks were too high.

Once you see 1 or 2 at a club its a lot easier to see many others if you wish.

Some do more or less just want to do dances (hopefully with extras) but you can with some work get to a price point that works for both of you. Since most clubs take a pretty big cut of dance or private room fees & also make dancers pay a fee to work. You can usually agree to a rate where she gets more money and you also pay less money than at a club.

Then others will go out to eat & hang out but are a bit shy about doing "private" dances.

The best ones do both the private dances and hanging out.

I found the key is to have steady communication without coming off as creepy and to connect on social media.

[QUOTE=FortyFour;7506531]I glad that others have found some success.

There is no denying that meeting outside-the-club is riskier than inside-the-club. It's also more work than just getting an escort.

Almost every girl that I've seen outside-the-club, I've seen inside-the-club MANY times beforehand and developed a friendly relationship. I assume that they trusted me, and I didn't fear a disappointing outcome with them. A few times it "just kind of happened". It's weird that I would have no problem seeing Escorts that I've never met before, but Strippers required some type of connection first.

I've only felt comfortable bringing HOME 2 strippers for OTC. One lived with her parents, and I even met her father at a party she had. She did NOT have a pimp. The other was a single mom, and I've already been to her house several times and met her kids and roommates. It's unlikely she had a pimp. The only ones she seemed beholden to were her kids..[/QUOTE]I agree with this and have similar experiences. I am older than most forum members and I prefer sessions to be on a bed in a provider's bedroom or in a hotel, not the VIP cubicle chair, because it is more comfortable. And although some club girls say they are willing to meet OTC, they usually want much more for their time, or they never follow through on meeting. I have only one who meets me semi-regularly, and she has several clients.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7507360]E80,

I love this story. I see so many guys fighting to be the first to take her to the VIP in the club. I have seen guys turn down girls because they took another guy before them. And I nearly got in a fight one time with a guy because I was on the way to the VIP with his stripper, thank fully the bouncers intervened.

All these guys have the illusion that she arrives at the club freshly showered from her home. I always suspected that many of these girls are banging their favorite customers right before their shift and you already guy number 2 even if you are her first in the club.

I don't really care but so many other guys seem to..[/QUOTE]I've done this too — met a stripper OTC before her shift at the club. Very satisfying!

[QUOTE=ChachiGuy;7509461]Does anyone have any recommendations? Preferably not a fatty. If so, can you suggest a name, club and shift? I'm talking natural DD and up.

I know the thrill is in the hunt and I've got decades of that. But my time has become more limited these days. Thank you in advance![/QUOTE]BT's.

Patricia days.

Italia (nights.

Both Latina.

[QUOTE=Ezcumezgo80;7505438]Like others have said, the key is building a rapport with them.

I had a great thing for a long time when I used to live in Novi. There was a dancer at the Landing Strip that I had a lot of fun with. She used to work Sundays, which didn't open until later. She had a boyfriend, which most of them do, so she would tell him that she was going to the mall shopping before she would go to the club. I used to pick her up at the mall and take her to a hotel and fuck her for a couple of hours before her shift and then drop her back off at the mall.

It was a great thing until one time she told me that she and I should date and I asked her why, so she could find someone else to go to the mall with. That was the last time I saw her outside the club.[/QUOTE]Apologies for being dense, but I don't understand why you stopped seeing her. Was she saying she wanted to "date" you as in "make you her bf", so she could cheat on you with a new guy (going to the mall)? She was already cheating on her bf, so what difference did it make to you that she wanted to date you so she could find someone else to go with to the mall?

[QUOTE=ChachiGuy;7504829]Speaking from experience, I would keep the action in the club. Unless you've known her for a while and have built up rapport. So many of these girls are into some shady shit that you don't want to bring into your home. And the hotel thing sounds good in theory, but expect to pay more than in the club, and then you've got the cost of the room on top of it. Not to mention, girls are unreliable, so don't expect a reply, and don't be surprised if they blow you off after you already paid for the room. All of these things have happened to me, along with lots of other weird things I don't want get into.[/QUOTE]You have piqued my curiosity, sir. I'd love to know more about these weird things of which you speak, LOL. I agree with you about all the other experiences you mention, I have had those too.

Any updates or Changes? Are they still Strict, I mean Duggan is out.

Thanks for responding.

[QUOTE=Lurker1988;7516407]Any updates or Changes? Are they still Strict, I mean Duggan is out.
[/QUOTE]I believe many have closed. Penthouse reopened under a new name but it quickly failed. Coliseum is gone too. I think Players is still open, as is Trumpps.

Did Nicole go back to Florida after the new year?

[QUOTE=Lurker1988;7516407]Any updates or Changes? Are they still Strict, I mean Duggan is out.

Thanks for responding.[/QUOTE]I was at Players about 2 weeks ago. Nothing changed as of yet. In fact one could argue things might get worse with the new mayor. The wrong people have her ear if you are looking for leaner club policies.

[QUOTE=DetroitLife;7517341]I was at Players about 2 weeks ago. Nothing changed as of yet. In fact one could argue things might get worse with the new mayor. The wrong people have her ear if you are looking for leaner club policies.[/QUOTE]It depends on the dancer.

[QUOTE=SmegBoy;7517036]Did Nicole go back to Florida after the new year?[/QUOTE]Nope, she's here right now.

[QUOTE=Ezcumezgo80;7505438]
It was a great thing until one time she told me that she and I should date and I asked her why, so she could find someone else to go to the mall with. That was the last time I saw her outside the club.[/QUOTE]Smooth move. We shouldn't vocalize what we're thinking before considering the possible outcomes.

[QUOTE=AllDayLong5732;7517516]Nope, she's here right now.[/QUOTE]She is there every time I'm there which is a couple times a month, she seems so serious all the time, never seems happy, iv'e never seen her smile, never seen her laugh.

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;7517909]She is there every time I'm there which is a couple times a month, she seems so serious all the time, never seems happy, iv'e never seen her smile, never seen her laugh.[/QUOTE]She's cool, I just take it as her being high.

[QUOTE=DooMama7;7517957]She's cool, I just take it as her being high.[/QUOTE]I've seen her so wasted that she was literally bouncing off the walls like a pinball because she couldn't walk straight. I've also seen her smile, but it's rare. Glad to hear she's around, I've need of her talents.

[QUOTE=WinterKnight;7516300]BT's.

Patricia days.

Italia (nights.

Both Latina.[/QUOTE]You are the man. Going to try to make this work.

[QUOTE=WinterKnight;7516317]You have piqued my curiosity, sir. I'd love to know more about these weird things of which you speak, LOL. I agree with you about all the other experiences you mention, I have had those too.[/QUOTE]It's not so much that they're into weird shit. But rather, weird shit happens.

I picked up an off-shift girl at La Chambre about 20 years ago. Very hot, big naturals. She used to be a web girl with photos on Dani's Hardrive (for those who remember). Since I had gotten dances with her before, I decided to make a move. We quickly came to an agreement and off we went to my place. What I didn't expect was that she had a male chaperone. Some older guy who when he got to my house drank my liquor while we banged upstairs. Everything came together smoothly that night and I thought we were 1 and done. About a week later, I guess I didn't lock my front door and next thing I know she's back with her chaperone. She just walked into my house dressed like Marylin Monroe with a wig and nothing on underneath. With my door wide open, she gives a show that my neighbors could have easily seen. Maybe I'm not like a lot of you guys, but I'm discreet about this stuff. After we banged again, I explained that we were done. For years, I kept fearing that she would pop in again unannounced and embarrass me in front of friends or family.

I had another situation where I took a girl home from HVIII South. Once again, very hot, big naturals. In the middle of banging, she starts asking how I'm going to rape her. Next thing I know she starts screaming & crying while curled up in the fetal position. Then I got the story about her sexual abuse background. I drove her home and kept hoping she would flip the script and let me finish. But nope. Total waste of money.

A girl I got dances with at LS invited me over after her shift was done. She made it seem like it was going to be a party with lots of other strippers. It turned out to be me and her neighbor trying to outlast each other. About 5 in the morning, we're all stoned, and then she just starts crying manically for no reason saying she's going to bed alone. I wasn't out money this time, but it was weird and I felt baited.

There is a girl who I've known for over 20 years and have banged a LOT in that time. She's told me many times that she'd be interested in a more comfortable setting. Twice now I've gotten a room and both times she bailed. The first time I stupidly got a non-refundable room. The second time, I was already there waiting and got blown off. I see her in the club weeks later and she acts like nothing happened.

I'm at a point now where I don't want to bring this shit into my home, don't want to waste time and money on blow offs, and can achieve the same goal without the baggage at the club of my choosing.

[QUOTE=AllDayLong5732;7517516]Nope, she's here right now.[/QUOTE]Does Nicole work day or night shift?

[QUOTE=MichiBob;7518478]Does Nicole work day or night shift?[/QUOTE]The timestamp of his post tells you that he sent it at 13:58, aka just before 2 pm.

I visited SC since I was in the area and ended up with a petite black dancer named Dime. She was very. Confident (full of herself). Ended up going back with her and had covered FS for 200. It was fine, but nothing outstanding. I would repeat, but her personality was underwhelming.

A few other dancers caught my eye, Ariel a MILF with super long hair, Celeste a young small but curvy white girl that danced to rock, and Aquarius an "alt" looking white girl. Anyone have info on them or days they dance?

[QUOTE=KPlank;7518613]I visited SC since I was in the area and ended up with a petite black dancer named Dime. She was very. Confident (full of herself). Ended up going back with her and had covered FS for 200. It was fine, but nothing outstanding. I would repeat, but her personality was underwhelming.

A few other dancers caught my eye, Ariel a MILF with super long hair, Celeste a young small but curvy white girl that danced to rock, and Aquarius an "alt" looking white girl. Anyone have info on them or days they dance?[/QUOTE]Speak with aquarius, since you saw her was this night shift?

[QUOTE=DooMama7;7518628]Speak with aquarius, since you saw her was this night shift?[/QUOTE]No. It was day shift. Honestly, I don't remember the day. It was during the week though. Is she normally nights?

[QUOTE=KPlank;7518757]No. It was day shift. Honestly, I don't remember the day. It was during the week though. Is she normally nights?[/QUOTE]She switched to nights from what she told me, how long ago was this? She only changed as of recent.

[QUOTE=KPlank;7518613]I visited SC since I was in the area and ended up with a petite black dancer named Dime. She was very. Confident (full of herself). Ended up going back with her and had covered FS for 200. It was fine, but nothing outstanding. I would repeat, but her personality was underwhelming.

A few other dancers caught my eye, Ariel a MILF with super long hair, Celeste a young small but curvy white girl that danced to rock, and Aquarius an "alt" looking white girl. Anyone have info on them or days they dance?[/QUOTE]I once had a nice chat with Ariel late last spring, but didn't have time to take her to the back, and haven't seen her working since. She chose Ariel or Crystal for her stage name, Ariel for the younger crowd familiar with the Disney character, while much older gents said she reminded them of Crystal Gayle, LOL.

She is married. I'll supply the full story via PM for those interested.

[QUOTE=KPlank;7518613]I visited SC since I was in the area and ended up with a petite black dancer named Dime. She was very. Confident (full of herself). Ended up going back with her and had covered FS for 200. It was fine, but nothing outstanding. I would repeat, but her personality was underwhelming.

A few other dancers caught my eye, Ariel a MILF with super long hair, Celeste a young small but curvy white girl that danced to rock, and Aquarius an "alt" looking white girl. Anyone have info on them or days they dance?[/QUOTE]I think I have met a couple of those dancers but I am bad with names. I will visit this week and see if I see any of those dancers.

So, Nicole's still around. Seemed like (from reports; I don't go often) she had really left for Florida. Oh, well. Does her menu still include everything?

[QUOTE=HornKnee;7520023]So, Nicole's still around. Seemed like (from reports; I don't go often) she had really left for Florida. Oh, well. Does her menu still include everything?[/QUOTE]You can't skeet inside of her, depending upon her mood but yes.

[QUOTE=DooMama7;7520078]You can't skeet inside of her, depending upon her mood but yes.[/QUOTE]Anyone know if she's working day shift today?

[QUOTE=PickleJar;7520548]Anyone know if she's working day shift today?[/QUOTE]I'd say that there's a very high probability that she is.

Nicole texted me last night and this morning to come and see her or offering to come over, but I told her that I'd been on a break from things. I asked her about her about her move to Florida, because I thought she was moving. She said that she had, but just comes back up here to work. My guess would be that she's probably in need of money and that's why I'm saying that she'll probably be there today.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;7520596]I'd say that there's a very high probability that she is.

Nicole texted me last night and this morning to come and see her or offering to come over, but I told her that I'd been on a break from things. I asked her about her about her move to Florida, because I thought she was moving. She said that she had, but just comes back up here to work. My guess would be that she's probably in need of money and that's why I'm saying that she'll probably be there today.[/QUOTE]I winter in the Tampa area. I contacted Nicole after she got down here. She asked if I had $400. That was our last communication.

So, I went to Bogart's yesterday. It wasn't extremely busy, but there were still probably 15-20 dancers working. One of the waitresses had a birthday, so they were offering chocolate cake to people.

Anyway, for the last three or four weeks I've been on a hiatus from the clubs for personal reasons. After texting back and forth with Diamond yesterday (a thick white dancer with long brunette hair, large breasts, and hips), I went to see her. I've known her for at least 15 years, going back to when she first started at Henry's South. To make a long story short, Diamond always provides a good experience. She's negotiable, reasonably priced, and I'd recommend seeing her. She's very much YMMV in terms of the services she provides. Although it's rare, visits to Greece may be an option. It's been a long time since I've done it with her, but I can personally confirm that she does.

One dancer I talked to yesterday was Pixie. At first, I didn't recognize her. She used to have short hair, but she's grown it out, and in my opinion it really enhances her appearance. For anyone who visits Bogart's, Pixie is a popular dancer there. She's a thin, bleached blonde with small breasts and a nice little ass, so of course I'm a fan. Although we've discussed it a couple of times, I've never been in the back with her. That's mostly because she requires condoms, even for head, and I have a very difficult time staying hard while wearing one. My running joke is that it's like playing pool with a rope. From reviews and DMs, she's a lot of fun in the back, although from a previous conversation with her, unfortunately, visiting Greece isn't an option. Oh well. We can't have everything we want. Still, I'd like to take her back, so we'll see what happens. If we can't work something out, it might actually be good for me, because I'd probably go broke seeing her.

Aside from all that, another visit to Henry's is in the near future for me. I'm looking forward to seeing Sunflower again, because she really gets me off, and I'd like to repeat with Yesna. Avery is still on my to do list as well. I haven't admired my favorite eye candy in a while, so I'll have to do that and maybe we'll be able to work something out, where I'll be able to do more with her than just fantasize.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;7520596]I'd say that there's a very high probability that she is.

Nicole texted me last night and this morning to come and see her or offering to come over, but I told her that I'd been on a break from things. I asked her about her about her move to Florida, because I thought she was moving. She said that she had, but just comes back up here to work. My guess would be that she's probably in need of money and that's why I'm saying that she'll probably be there today.[/QUOTE]Going to guess that Florida is mostly a smokescreen. It's not like a dancer driving from Jackson or Toledo (IYKYK) to work a few days a week for cash.

She probably wants to move to Florida, and last I recall there are a ton of clubs to dance at all over FLA, not requiring her to come back to Inkster for money.

[QUOTE=Passenger;7520781]Going to guess that Florida is mostly a smokescreen. It's not like a dancer driving from Jackson or Toledo (IYKYK) to work a few days a week for cash.

She probably wants to move to Florida, and last I recall there are a ton of clubs to dance at all over FLA, not requiring her to come back to Inkster for money.[/QUOTE]No clue, I'm just repeating what she told me. I've never been to Florida. Are the clubs as permissive down there as here?

New to the Detroit scene, and I've read through lots of recommendations in this thread. Maybe I've missed good recommendations, but what's the best clubs most accessible to an east-sider?

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;7520669]So, I went to Bogart's yesterday. It wasn't extremely busy, but there were still probably 15-20 dancers working. One of the waitresses had a birthday, so they were offering chocolate cake to people.

Anyway, for the last three or four weeks I've been on a hiatus from the clubs for personal reasons. After texting back and forth with Diamond yesterday (a thick white dancer with long brunette hair, large breasts, and hips), I went to see her. I've known her for at least 15 years, going back to when she first started at Henry's South. To make a long story short, Diamond always provides a good experience. She's negotiable, reasonably priced, and I'd recommend seeing her. She's very much YMMV in terms of the services she provides. Although it's rare, visits to Greece may be an option. It's been a long time since I've done it with her, but I can personally confirm that she does.

One dancer I talked to yesterday was Pixie. At first, I didn't recognize her. She used to have short hair, but she's grown it out, and in my opinion it really enhances her appearance. For anyone who visits Bogart's, Pixie is a popular dancer there. She's a thin, bleached blonde with small breasts and a nice little ass, so of course I'm a fan. Although we've discussed it a couple of times, I've never been in the back with her. That's mostly because she requires condoms, even for head, and I have a very difficult time staying hard while wearing one. My running joke is that it's like playing pool with a rope. From reviews and DMs, she's a lot of fun in the back, although from a previous conversation with her, unfortunately, visiting Greece isn't an option. Oh well. We can't have everything we want. Still, I'd like to take her back, so we'll see what happens. If we can't work something out, it might actually be good for me, because I'd probably go broke seeing her.

Aside from all that, another visit to Henry's is in the near future for me. I'm looking forward to seeing Sunflower again, because she really gets me off, and I'd like to repeat with Yesna. Avery is still on my to do list as well. I haven't admired my favorite eye candy in a while, so I'll have to do that and maybe we'll be able to work something out, where I'll be able to do more with her than just fantasize.[/QUOTE]Yesna the older chick with the flashing butt plug?