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[QUOTE=Lex85;5761594]There's a guy on xhamster who put up a vid of her sucking him off. At least I'm pretty sure it's her.[/QUOTE][URL]https://xhamster.com/videos/latina-milf-deepthroat-blowjob-cum-in-mouth-amwf-xhzD6S3?from=[/URL]
She looks ok until you get a look at what's left of her teeth.
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[QUOTE=CornCobMaker;5759399]My first experience was a couple months ago with a legit desire to get a massage. Back was killing me, I literally didn't care who rubbed it. Went to a place close to my house and on the turn she went for it. No discussion of money until after when--I probably ignorantly--thought $20 tip was sufficient.[/QUOTE]40 is the usual fee for L1.
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[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5738892]But such info is prerequisite for most high end escorts.[/QUOTE]That depends on how far you're willing to go to protect your personal information. In my book, you're dealing with a criminal organization and are yourself committing an illegal act. Which means you have absolutely no recourse if things go south with them. What are you going to do? Sue?
I'd rather pay a couple hundred dollars for a fake I'd and another twenty for some fake business cards and leave it at that, rather than risk my freedom and reputation by just hoping that these scumbags never try to take advantage of me. Shit happens all the time.
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[QUOTE=AngelBravo;5738927]You can be blackmailed by sending a Dick Pic under a law that states that you are sending explicit pictures to a Minor. It's easy to prove and take you to court since you literally sent a picture of your junk and it can be verified later in court. I agree that avoiding this kind of drama is best. Even if you send a fake one, you are still sending explicit pictures to a minor (Potentially) It sounds like a scam / entrapment all the way around.[/QUOTE]Yeah I don't think that's accurate at all. By blackmailing you for supposedly sending dick pics to a minor, the pimps would be incriminating themselves even more. The prosecutor probably wouldn't even give a shit about some idiot jon considering there's some scumbag pimp who put the whole extortion thing into motion.
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Testify
[QUOTE=GeorgeBoyd;5768563]Yeah I don't think that's accurate at all. By blackmailing you for supposedly sending dick pics to a minor, the pimps would be incriminating themselves even more. The prosecutor probably wouldn't even give a shit about some idiot jon considering there's some scumbag pimp who put the whole extortion thing into motion.[/QUOTE]Or the prosecutor will charge you first later making a deal with you so you testify in court against the pimp. What? You don't think people have been charged with bs crimes just to get them to roll over the other guy? Doesn't matter if they have a strong case you still get your name in the paper and the priveledge of paying a lawyer just to make a plea deal. Sending a dic pic to a minor has even gotten other minors in trouble. Go ahead and google it, plenty of stories out there. Why I never send a dic pic and why I wish no one would either. If no one would the girls would stop asking for a picture of your junk. But I guess enough of you guys go ahead and do it so the girls don't care of the ones who won't send the pic.
B.
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[QUOTE=Bkmsw;5769890]Or the prosecutor will charge you first later making a deal with you so you testify in court against the pimp. What? You don't think people have been charged with bs crimes just to get them to roll over the other guy? Doesn't matter if they have a strong case you still get your name in the paper and the priveledge of paying a lawyer just to make a plea deal. Sending a dic pic to a minor has even gotten other minors in trouble. Go ahead and google it, plenty of stories out there. Why I never send a dic pic and why I wish no one would either. If no one would the girls would stop asking for a picture of your junk. But I guess enough of you guys go ahead and do it so the girls don't care of the ones who won't send the pic.
B.[/QUOTE]I don't doubt it, but the point is that it would never even get to that point because by attempting to extort you, the pimp would be guaranteeing his own placement in the local arrest section of the newspaper.
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Tinder / Snapchat girls
Hi fellows, I got back on Tinder lately and man, it's way different from the last time I used it 4 or 5 years ago. Among the many strange flavors of people who I don't remember being there back then: tons of profiles with scantily clad cuties listing their instas and snapchats.
If you add the girls on snapchat, generally soon and often within a few minutes you'll get a message from them asking where you're from and advertising selling either videos or, most often, hookups or "massage".
Scammers are certainly plentiful, I already got taken for a ride by one person (live and learn to think with the right head). But they're not all scammers, I was able to get real home videos from a girl with a banging body for example (for less than I got scammed for earlier.). Unfortunately she lives in VT because otherwise damn. If anyone's a fan of homemade vids of a cute ultra busty chick, PM me.
As far as the other stuff, I've gotten close to making arrangements with some of the girls on snapchat, including some who had very reasonable prices and were very cute, at least in their pictures, but pictures are trivial to fake. So ultimately I've chickened out because I have no idea if "Carly" is actually "Charlie" and his three friends, or worse, Uncle LEO. It's always impossible to know what's real or not these days (ain't that the case with everything) but wondering if anyone has happened onto something legit because damn. Some of these hoes be 🔥.
If anyone knows any good ones, always appreciate a PM. Take care gents (and ladies).
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Been seeing more ads lately adverting overnights. Be wary of this guys. I haven't heard many do overnights unless it's with someone they've seen already. I especially wouldn't do it on a first encounter for a few reasons. But I mention this because a lot of these new ads advertising it are also stating incalls only. That sounds like a recipe for a set up to occur. Happy hunting guys, always use your big head.
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[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5770943]Been seeing more ads lately adverting overnights. Be wary of this guys. I haven't heard many do overnights unless it's with someone they've seen already. I especially wouldn't do it on a first encounter for a few reasons. But I mention this because a lot of these new ads advertising it are also stating incalls only. That sounds like a recipe for a set up to occur. Happy hunting guys, always use your big head.[/QUOTE]I've been seeing that too, another one that sticks out is the 90 min or 2 hour minimum when booking. There's a few higher end ladies I'd like to see but I'm not willing to shell out more money for a longer session when I only want an hour.
I understand why they do it but it does push away potential clients.
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Agency Ladies
So I have a question about the ladies that work with agencies. Why do they even choose to work with agencies? I'm just curious. I am not against agencies. I can understand new girls being introduced in this industry starting with an agency. But the ones who've been at an agency for a while or for years?.
They know they can make a boat load of money, if they were to be an independent. Is it the sort of "security" an agency brings? A client would know not to do anything stupid because there's this agency looking after the lady and communicating with her. While an independent is usually all alone. Is it the risk factor? Do they prefer not to have to deal with communicating with mongers, screening, and setting up hotel rooms? Are they just scared or nervous? The convenience?.
An agency I'm guessing takes out at least 150 or maybe even 200 for the hotel room and their own cut from the rate. Could be more I don't know. Personally, I'd rather the provider have the whole donation so it all goes to them. Has anyone ever asked an agency girl about this?.
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[QUOTE=Lex85;5771104]I've been seeing that too, another one that sticks out is the 90 min or 2 hour minimum when booking. There's a few higher end ladies I'd like to see but I'm not willing to shell out more money for a longer session when I only want an hour.
I understand why they do it but it does push away potential clients.[/QUOTE]Yea that one is a definite red flag unless she's higher end. A true escort that actually has a date in mind or attends an event with you, straight arm candy. When I got started in the hobby I always elected for a quick visit whenever possible. But since a lot of girls won't drive cross town for that or will ghost you because a guy requested an hour while you were traveling toward her took your place in line. I go figure half hours now and one pop. If the girl has great customer service, hygiene and rates then surely I will repeat and get more time. But spending an hour time and money wise with a girl that is a total Pandora's box is outside my logic. Even with others to vouch, 90% YMMV, even with the reputable ones. Everyone has a bad day and you never you off that's going to be the day you show up.
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I think its as simple as its prob nice to have someone manage getting customers for you and just texting you when to show up, instead of having to also drum.
Up business yourself.
[QUOTE=SleepOdyssey;5771150]So I have a question about the ladies that work with agencies. Why do they even choose to work with agencies? I'm just curious. I am not against agencies. I can understand new girls being introduced in this industry starting with an agency. But the ones who've been at an agency for a while or for years?.
They know they can make a boat load of money, if they were to be an independent. Is it the sort of "security" an agency brings? A client would know not to do anything stupid because there's this agency looking after the lady and communicating with her. While an independent is usually all alone. Is it the risk factor? Do they prefer not to have to deal with communicating with mongers, screening, and setting up hotel rooms? Are they just scared or nervous? The convenience?.
An agency I'm guessing takes out at least 150 or maybe even 200 for the hotel room and their own cut from the rate. Could be more I don't know. Personally, I'd rather the provider have the whole donation so it all goes to them. Has anyone ever asked an agency girl about this?.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SleepOdyssey;5771150]So I have a question about the ladies that work with agencies. Why do they even choose to work with agencies? I'm just curious. I am not against agencies. I can understand new girls being introduced in this industry starting with an agency. But the ones who've been at an agency for a while or for years?.
They know they can make a boat load of money, if they were to be an independent. Is it the sort of "security" an agency brings? A client would know not to do anything stupid because there's this agency looking after the lady and communicating with her. While an independent is usually all alone. Is it the risk factor? Do they prefer not to have to deal with communicating with mongers, screening, and setting up hotel rooms? Are they just scared or nervous? The convenience?.
An agency I'm guessing takes out at least 150 or maybe even 200 for the hotel room and their own cut from the rate. Could be more I don't know. Personally, I'd rather the provider have the whole donation so it all goes to them. Has anyone ever asked an agency girl about this?.[/QUOTE]Girl not capable or not wanting to taking, keeping track, and following through with appointments and the advertising, screening, and marketing necessary. Many girls have left agencies and floundered on their own and then returned to agencies. It is not uncommon for indies to pay someone else to do their social media, screening, and scheduling. I am not sure that all these independent girls are making all that much money from hooking. I think camming, OF, etc is a big part of their income stream and some are just barely getting by. 10 years ago agencies were more expensive than independents. 300 for an indy and 350 or 400 for agency was common. Not it seems like 350 or 400 for agency and a boat load of independents asking 450 to 600.
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[QUOTE=GeorgeBoyd;5770260]I don't doubt it, but the point is that it would never even get to that point because by attempting to extort you, the pimp would be guaranteeing his own placement in the local arrest section of the newspaper.[/QUOTE]That is true that a pimp would not place his own freedom in question. He may try to bluff you but most likely that is as far as it gets. But I wasn't clear and that's on me, I was speaking of sending a dic pic to an actual minor and then the minor getting caught. The cops are going to go through her phone and you don't want a pic of your junk to be on a minor's phone. Even though you may have texts of meeting up you can always claim you didn't meet up or you bailed when she answered the door and you saw she was young. I have this happen twice to me. On both occasions I asked for I'd. One said no I left. The other showed me and proved she was legal. This happened during the back page days a long time ago. But once you send a dic pick there is little you can do to deny it. Which is why we should alll get burner phones.
B.
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[QUOTE=MayoTeru;5770889]Hi
If you add the girls on snapchat, generally soon and often within a few minutes you'll get a message from them asking where you're from and advertising selling either videos or, most often, hookups or "massage".
.[/QUOTE]And almost ALWAYS those ladies require a "deposit" in advance for a meeting. No extra cash on arrival. ALWAYS cash via some e-transfer.
The sure and certain sign of a scammer.