Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Sixsixths;7474980]Guy got into it with security in the lot, shot and killed the security guard. Then fled and was killed by Trenton PD.[/QUOTE]
It's strange. Bogies had that energy to me. Not like there were thugs/gangsters in the club, but that if some shit was going to go down, it would be there. Aside from a lack of talent most times I went, that's a reason I stayed away. Things were good last time (a couple weeks ago, after H8) though. RIP to the guard.

Outside that. I was planning on hitting SC this Saturday. However, I hadn't clocked that this coming weekend is the weekend before Christmas. How do prices adjust in light of this? Are girls typically trying to get the most they can out of every VIP, or are they letting things go cheaper because there are more girls working? Asking one of the vets in the crowd.

[QUOTE=HornKnee;7475127]Outside that. I was planning on hitting SC this Saturday. However, I hadn't clocked that this coming weekend is the weekend before Christmas. How do prices adjust in light of this? Are girls typically trying to get the most they can out of every VIP, or are they letting things go cheaper because there are more girls working? Asking one of the vets in the crowd.[/QUOTE]I'm in the same boat as you in that regard. I think it'll be very crowded and that there will probably be a lot more dancers, which means much more competition. Since it's the week before Christmas and many dancers will need money to buy presents, they may be far more willing to negotiate deals rather than raise prices.

[QUOTE=BoobiesMan;7474964]Recently I had two girls in one night ask for payment up front. I politely said no. Each one protested. I stood firm. Usually I don't. I don't know what would have happened. The first one, we mutually decided to end the session before it started and she had a good attitude about it. The second girl, she gave in and we had fun, and I ended up giving her a tip too. I'm not calling them out because they didn't end up ripping me off, might not have done it anyway, and the same advice applies to ANY girl. It was tough to stay strong but I thought about what people said on this forum and didn't give in.

Since I didn't pay up front I didn't get ripped off. Stay strong.[/QUOTE]Good job, I also did the same a month ago.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;7475344]I'm in the same boat as you in that regard. I think it'll be very crowded and that there will probably be a lot more dancers, which means much more competition. Since it's the week before Christmas and many dancers will need money to buy presents, they may be far more willing to negotiate deals rather than raise prices.[/QUOTE]Going either Friday or Saturday (day shift) will report back, probably hitting bogies to see if Dominique is working but also hitting up HVIII before or after.

[QUOTE=BoobiesMan;7474964]Recently I had two girls in one night ask for payment up front. I politely said no. Each one protested. I stood firm. Usually I don't. I don't know what would have happened. The first one, we mutually decided to end the session before it started and she had a good attitude about it. The second girl, she gave in and we had fun, and I ended up giving her a tip too. I'm not calling them out because they didn't end up ripping me off, might not have done it anyway, and the same advice applies to ANY girl. It was tough to stay strong but I thought about what people said on this forum and didn't give in.

Since I didn't pay up front I didn't get ripped off. Stay strong.[/QUOTE]BM,

Good for you, proud of you. You can claim the title of monger.

If you would paid first what would have happened is you would have been cheated. Many guys have been posting about how they got cheated in this same scenario.

Sure there are exceptions where the girl doesn't cheat you, but 95% of the time you will get cheated.

In the first case the girl gave you the option to leave and you were smart to take it. She basically said I will cheat you if you are dumb / inexperienced enough to pay me now. You also politely declined her offer. That is the right way to do it. Sorry you are not the dancer for me, and I am not the customer for you. I can assure you she moved on cheated someone else an hour or so later.

You got to move on with a your pocket still full of cash and select a different girl. This second girl realized she could not cheat you but still wanted your money and choose to give you the thing you wanted (her pussy). She got your money and you left happy. I would not at all be surprised to read on this board that the same girl you enjoyed cheated someone else because they let her.

It gets easier the more you do it, and as you get a reputation of someone who can' be cheated, the girls looking to cheat start avoiding you.

MM.

Does anyone know? I'm in the Tampa area for the winter and I'd love to see her.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;7476189]Does anyone know? I'm in the Tampa area for the winter and I'd love to see her.[/QUOTE]That's what she told me, the last time I talked to her. She said that she got a divorce, has a new man and they are moving to Tampa.

[QUOTE=HornKnee;7475127]It's strange. Bogies had that energy to me. Not like there were thugs/gangsters in the club, but that if some shit was going to go down, it would be there. Aside from a lack of talent most times I went, that's a reason I stayed away. Things were good last time (a couple weeks ago, after H8) though. RIP to the guard.

Outside that. I was planning on hitting SC this Saturday. However, I hadn't clocked that this coming weekend is the weekend before Christmas. How do prices adjust in light of this? Are girls typically trying to get the most they can out of every VIP, or are they letting things go cheaper because there are more girls working? Asking one of the vets in the crowd.[/QUOTE]I coined the phrase: "Grinding on it like a stripper mom a week before Christmas".

Back when Leggs Lounge was still open the day shift was loaded with both the regular dancers and a bunch of mercenaries there to make Christmas $$. It was the case there for the entire month of December. It was awesome. Lots of unknown talent and leverage to get a discount from the regulars. Though the dances there were pretty affordable for the level of service.

Drove up for day shift from OH, all 3 clubs were sparse with talent and customers, guess it's cold? Anyway Annabelle is back at bogart's for those who are fans of hers (like me) BBFS 1. 50. Hank's didn't have anyone of interest, ended at silver criket, got with aquarius, once again 1. 50 BBFS, guess Christmas came early for me (no pun intended).

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;7476592]That's what she told me, the last time I talked to her. She said that she got a divorce, has a new man and they are moving to Tampa.[/QUOTE]Someone was married to her, wow. I hope they kept penicillin handy.

[QUOTE=GuyDetroit;7477006]Someone was married to her, wow. I hope they kept penicillin handy.[/QUOTE]From our conversation, she said that she'd been married 13 years. I have no idea about any of the details though.

So Nicole really did to Florida. Good luck to her.

With her gone, who do you guys think is the new BJ queen in these clubs (CBJ or BBBJ)?

[QUOTE=HornKnee;7477153]So Nicole really did to Florida. Good luck to her.

With her gone, who do you guys think is the new BJ queen in these clubs (CBJ or BBBJ)?[/QUOTE]Plenty will step up to the plate, trust me.

[QUOTE=DooMama7;7477193]Plenty will step up to the plate, trust me.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. Simple economics when there is an unmet demand it creates supply to satisfy that demand and return to equilibrium.

The other option is guys stop seeking blow jobs. I wouldn't bet on this one.

MM.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7477449]I totally agree. Simple economics when there is an unmet demand it creates supply to satisfy that demand and return to equilibrium.

The other option is guys stop seeking blow jobs. I wouldn't bet on this one..[/QUOTE]Its not that simple, lots of people want cars, you could say that demand is unmet, but GM / Ford / The Other one is not bending over backwards to create enough cars they can sell one to every potential buyer. They would much rather make less. Sell for more and have a much larger profit margin because the demand means the market will support overpriced goods. Providers are the same way 90% of the time. Low turnover, high prices, repeat customers is their best profit margin model.

Could have been the weekend before Christmas or just Saturday night, but Silver Cricket (Criket?) was as stacked with black and brown girls as I heard. There were a lot of guys too and a VIP situation going on with a booth, so like 5-6 of the girls were never even on the floor.

The only lady I went back with was Karma, a short AA girl in her 20's with one of the BIGGEST and nicest asses I've ever seen (could just be she's short). I went back for a $150 CBJ with her. She asked for payment up front, and I wouldn't normally do that, but her ass and the rest of her made her a 10 to me personally. She gave a good BJ; I didn't get robbed or anything, but your mileage may vary if you want more. Most would say I overpaid. We weren't back there super long. On that note, before going back with Karma, I went back with a young lightskin latina named Pebbles for the same fee CBJ. She wanted payment up front, and I said I don't do that. She left the room. So, that could have been a rob. I was just willing to take the risk with Karma.

Overall, I can see myself coming back to SC even with the $20 cover, a 2 drink minimum, and the fact that every trip to the back costs 10 bucks. I left to H8 though, as a lot of the girls were talking with other customers. I THINK I saw the Dream you guys are talking about? Her name was Dream anyway. She was Caucasian, rail thin with 0 ass / tits but a nice face. I tipped on stage to take her back just on you guys' recommendation, but she ghosted with other customers or something after leaving.

I ended up blowing the rest of my cash that night with Pixie (AA, slim, late 20's) and Jasmine (AA, big tits, ok ass, mid 20's). I took Pixie back for a $100 CBJ (which she was great at), but she successfully upsold to 200 for everything. She asked for 50 more when it was all over, and (I will be hated) I gave it because we were back there for so long (I guess Karma came back to bite me). I took Jasmine back for a $150 CBJ to end the night. It was great and I finally went home.

It might be quite a few months before I hit the clubs again, but SC might be the the first hit unless I'm sure I can find a good BBBJ provider somewhere else.

So, I have some time off and was thinking about possibly going out later tonight. The thing is, it's been so long since I've gone out on a Sunday night that I can't remember what it's like or whether it's even worth it. Has anyone been to Henry's, Bogart's, or the Criket on a Sunday night recently? If so, how was it? It would be disappointing to go out only to realize later that I could have had just as much fun sitting at home in bunny slippers, watching TV, and drinking Weller's.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;7477841]So, I have some time off and was thinking about possibly going out later tonight. The thing is, it's been so long since I've gone out on a Sunday night that I can't remember what it's like or whether it's even worth it. Has anyone been to Henry's, Bogart's, or the Criket on a Sunday night recently? If so, how was it? It would be disappointing to go out only to realize later that I could have had just as much fun sitting at home in bunny slippers, watching TV, and drinking Weller's.[/QUOTE]I mean, how far are you from these places? Seems like if you're close, you can just pop in and see if there are only a few girls there.

Me, I'm an hour and change away. So, I only go down when I have something else in that area I want to go to. I WANT to say SC is popping if even half the amount of girls there last night are there today, but Sunday is a different animal. Same with H8 (lots of girls there too). This being the weekend before Christmas may be a factor too. There may be more girls there than there normally would be. But that's my uninformed take. Surely a vet can chime in.

Shit. Didn't realize Nicole was already in Florida. Wish I could have stopped in and seen her one last time. Good to know. I was going to try and stop by tonight but if she's not working maybe I'll find other plans unless there's another dancer working tonight someone could recommend. Feel free to DM.

Bogart's had some nice latinas months ago. Night shift.

[QUOTE=DooMama7;7476732]Drove up for day shift from OH, all 3 clubs were sparse with talent and customers, guess it's cold? Anyway Annabelle is back at bogart's for those who are fans of hers (like me) BBFS 1. 50. Hank's didn't have anyone of interest, ended at silver criket, got with aquarius, once again 1. 50 BBFS, guess Christmas came early for me (no pun intended).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CassMan;7477666]Its not that simple, lots of people want cars, you could say that demand is unmet, but GM / Ford / The Other one is not bending over backwards to create enough cars they can sell one to every potential buyer. They would much rather make less. Sell for more and have a much larger profit margin because the demand means the market will support overpriced goods. Providers are the same way 90% of the time. Low turnover, high prices, repeat customers is their best profit margin model.[/QUOTE]CM,

I respect your thinking, but think a little differently about your example.

I believe everyone who wants a car has one. If you can't get a new car for much less you can get a used car. You can also take an Uber. I am not seeing an unmet demand.

I have no desire to start a posting battle, I welcome your reply, but this my final comment on the topic.

MM.

[QUOTE=OutsideProof;7477982]Bogart's had some nice latinas months ago. Night shift.[/QUOTE]The cubans? I usually pass bc the reports are they are robs.

[QUOTE=HornKnee;7477826] She asked for payment up front, and I wouldn't normally do that, but her ass and the rest of her made her a 10 to me personally. She gave a good BJ; I didn't get robbed or anything

I went back with a young lightskin latina named Pebbles for the same fee CBJ. She wanted payment up front, and I said I don't do that. She left the room. So, that could have been a rob. I was just willing to take the risk with Karma.

a 2 drink minimum

Pixie (AA, slim, late 20's) and Jasmine (AA, big tits, ok ass, mid 20's). I took Pixie back for a $100 CBJ (which she was great at), but she successfully upsold to 200 for everything. She asked for 50 more when it was all over, and (I will be hated) I gave it because we were back there for so long [/QUOTE]HK,

Glad you had a great time, I am jealous, I wish I was there with you. Paying Karma up front is risky, and even though she still delivered she might have been more enthusiastic or provided a longer session if payment is at the end. Regardless as long as you knew the risk, and were willing to take it then you did ok.

As for the other girl you were likely smart to let her walk. Not all girls will deliver like Karma did. I recall a girl named Leela and she insisted guys pay up front and told them that before even leaving the main room for the VIP. I never sampled her but a few of my buddies did. They eventually caved to paying up front. They were thrilled that she didn't cheat them and performed the negotiated services but none of them repeated with her. When I enquired why they each said her session was mechanical and unenthusiastic. Just what one might expect from a girl who already had their money in her purse.

I am not aware of any 2 drink minimum at Criket, unless that started very recently.

As long as Pixie's performance merited a $50 tip, I don't see any problem with it. We should pay the girls what we think there performance is worth. I was once back with a girl, and it was my second pop of the night. I can be hard to finish sometimes, especially when I get hot. Yet she was determined to finish me. I offered multiple times to end the session, saying I likely wouldn't be able to finish. She insisted she would I would pop and told me to sit my ass down and let her do her job. I took forever; over an hour but less than 2 hours. She was super proud of herself when she finally coaxed that second pop out of me. I paid her what we negotiated. She didn't ask for tip and I didn't offer a tip. Then as I was walking out of the club it occurred to me that was just wrong. She was already sitting at the bar with another potential customer and I walked over to her and said I forgot to give you a tip. I handed her $100 bill. She gave me a great hug, and then I turned to the guy she was talking to and said I highly recommend her, she gets the job done. And then I walked out.

There is nothing wrong with tipping a girl extra if you are back there a long time and she gives you a good session.

MM.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7478306]HK,

Glad you had a great time, I am jealous, I wish I was there with you. Paying Karma up front is risky, and even though she still delivered she might have been more enthusiastic or provided a longer session if payment is at the end. Regardless as long as you knew the risk, and were willing to take it then you did ok.

As for the other girl you were likely smart to let her walk. Not all girls will deliver like Karma did. I recall a girl named Leela and she insisted guys pay up front and told them that before even leaving the main room for the VIP. I never sampled her but a few of my buddies did. They eventually caved to paying up front. They were thrilled that she didn't cheat them and performed the negotiated services but none of them repeated with her. When I enquired why they each said her session was mechanical and unenthusiastic. Just what one might expect from a girl who already had their money in her purse.

I am not aware of any 2 drink minimum at Criket, unless that started very recently.

As long as Pixie's performance merited a $50 tip, I don't see any problem with it. We should pay the girls what we think there performance is worth. I was once back with a girl, and it was my second pop of the night. I can be hard to finish sometimes, especially when I get hot. Yet she was determined to finish me. I offered multiple times to end the session, saying I likely wouldn't be able to finish. She insisted she would I would pop and told me to sit my ass down and let her do her job. I took forever; over an hour but less than 2 hours. She was super proud of herself when she finally coaxed that second pop out of me. I paid her what we negotiated. She didn't ask for tip and I didn't offer a tip. Then as I was walking out of the club it occurred to me that was just wrong. She was already sitting at the bar with another potential customer and I walked over to her and said I forgot to give you a tip. I handed her $100 bill. She gave me a great hug, and then I turned to the guy she was talking to and said I highly recommend her, she gets the job done. And then I walked out.

There is nothing wrong with tipping a girl extra if you are back there a long time and she gives you a good session.

MM.[/QUOTE]I have nothing to add, I just wanted to say that you are one of the best posters I have ever seen on a forum in my quarter century of posting on forums. Your posts are long, but rewarding. I am engaged in reading every word and they hold my interest more than any 10-15 word post. You deserve your flowers for being such an interesting voice, a source of valuable information, and a guiding mentor for the younger guys just getting into the hobby.

[QUOTE=DooMama7;7478299]The cubans? I usually pass bc the reports are they are robs.[/QUOTE]I've no experience with them at bogarts, but have had good times with a few at LS and BTs. Haven't yet had a rob, though some have high asking prices. In the end, no different price wise than what others ask for at LSr. More and more I'm running into Cubans who are more personable in their sales pitch and less mechanical in the back. Maybe they are assimilating. Then again, the more they assimilate the more will be robs. LOL.

[QUOTE=BlackEscape;7478478]I have nothing to add, I just wanted to say that you are one of the best posters I have ever seen on a forum in my quarter century of posting on forums. Your posts are long, but rewarding. I am engaged in reading every word and they hold my interest more than any 10-15 word post. You deserve your flowers for being such an interesting voice, a source of valuable information, and a guiding mentor for the younger guys just getting into the hobby.[/QUOTE]He alright! LOL.

[QUOTE=DooMama7;7478299]The cubans? I usually pass bc the reports are they are robs.[/QUOTE]I've had all great experiences with Cubans in 2025.6 different girls from Criket and Flight club. All worth repeats and did repeat with a few. There are good and bad ones just like all of the dancer types. Luck of the draw sometimes.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7466332]I1234,

I think everything is negotiable, so my typical sessions are between 30 and 60 minutes. I will usually do 5 - 10 songs of just foreplay and getting to touch all of her goodies. Once things get going I tend to pop pretty quickly, but I find most girls seems to appreciate my slower start up approach and I really treat them like I am enjoying everything about their company.

I love reading your reports, but it has been several years since I have gone to H8's. As I usually don't see anyone I want to session with, and typically have only gone if another girl I know from a different club tells me she is dancing there, and they rarely last long. The problem with H8 for me, is I can go to Applebees or Chiles and score a younger more attractive girl than most of the dancers there. I am not saying there isn't occasionally a hot gem in H8. I find I have a particular type and those young thin fit girls are rarely there and I am looking for a higher success ratio when I walk in a club.

200 is a good price for BTs and Landing strip, it is challenging to get lower than that.

I am even willing to pay more more if it is a girl that I can't get outside the club, for example most college age girls. I believe I get really good value for the money I am spending so I keep doing it.

I agree with you about having regulars and great chemistry. Known good time, both comfortable and familiar. My top girl I saw her more than 70 times staring from the week of her 18th birthday all the way until she was 22. Such a great girl, worth every penny.

MM.[/QUOTE]Are you paying additional for the 5-10 songs of foreplay? I would love a slow start to build arousal instead of getting rushed. How do you do it?

[QUOTE=BlackEscape;7478478]I have nothing to add, I just wanted to say that you are one of the best posters I have ever seen on a forum in my quarter century of posting on forums. Your posts are long, but rewarding. I am engaged in reading every word and they hold my interest more than any 10-15 word post. You deserve your flowers for being such an interesting voice, a source of valuable information, and a guiding mentor for the younger guys just getting into the hobby.[/QUOTE]BE,

Thank glad to be helpful.

I look forward to reading about your adventures.

MM.

[QUOTE=CakeComa;7479211]I've had all great experiences with Cubans in 2025.6 different girls from Criket and Flight club. All worth repeats and did repeat with a few. There are good and bad ones just like all of the dancer types. Luck of the draw sometimes.[/QUOTE]+1.

In 2025, I have had only good experiences with Cubans: Patricia and Italia at BT's and Ana at SC.

Let's say you brought FS from a girl at BO for 200. Do you tip after the service is performed? Is so how much? Also, are the girls expecting it?

[QUOTE=BlackEscape;7478478]I have nothing to add, I just wanted to say that you are one of the best posters I have ever seen on a forum in my quarter century of posting on forums. Your posts are long, but rewarding. I am engaged in reading every word and they hold my interest more than any 10-15 word post. You deserve your flowers for being such an interesting voice, a source of valuable information, and a guiding mentor for the younger guys just getting into the hobby.[/QUOTE]Agreed! Before I began following MM's advice, my track record at strip clubs was uneven at best. I even quit the clubs scene for a year or so, because I was tired of being disappointed by the experience; but I returned after reading his posts and following his recommendations for how to improve one's chances for a successful visit. On my initial visit to BT's, I had a great first session with Devin, and that gave me confidence to repeat, and then return and try another dancer. And before long, I was going weekly, on friendly terms with a dozen dancers, and the bouncer shakes my hand when I walk in the door.

Thank you, Marelobo!

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7478306]There is nothing wrong with tipping a girl extra if you are back there a long time and she gives you a good session.

MM.[/QUOTE]This. I know I overpay most of the time, but I also get what I want most of the time, too. And, like the OP, most times it takes me longer to get aroused, and longer to finish, even to exceeding the half hour time limit and having to pay an additional fee to the bouncer. When the dancer puts in extra effort to accommodate me, I tip another $50-$100. This ensures she is happy to see me again.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7478306]HK,

Glad you had a great time, I am jealous, I wish I was there with you. Paying Karma up front is risky, and even though she still delivered she might have been more enthusiastic or provided a longer session if payment is at the end. Regardless as long as you knew the risk, and were willing to take it then you did ok.

As for the other girl you were likely smart to let her walk. Not all girls will deliver like Karma did. I recall a girl named Leela and she insisted guys pay up front and told them that before even leaving the main room for the VIP. I never sampled her but a few of my buddies did. They eventually caved to paying up front. They were thrilled that she didn't cheat them and performed the negotiated services but none of them repeated with her. When I enquired why they each said her session was mechanical and unenthusiastic. Just what one might expect from a girl who already had their money in her purse.

I am not aware of any 2 drink minimum at Criket, unless that started very recently.

As long as Pixie's performance merited a $50 tip, I don't see any problem with it. We should pay the girls what we think there performance is worth. I was once back with a girl, and it was my second pop of the night. I can be hard to finish sometimes, especially when I get hot. Yet she was determined to finish me. I offered multiple times to end the session, saying I likely wouldn't be able to finish. She insisted she would I would pop and told me to sit my ass down and let her do her job. I took forever; over an hour but less than 2 hours. She was super proud of herself when she finally coaxed that second pop out of me. I paid her what we negotiated. She didn't ask for tip and I didn't offer a tip. Then as I was walking out of the club it occurred to me that was just wrong. She was already sitting at the bar with another potential customer and I walked over to her and said I forgot to give you a tip. I handed her $100 bill. She gave me a great hug, and then I turned to the guy she was talking to and said I highly recommend her, she gets the job done. And then I walked out.

There is nothing wrong with tipping a girl extra if you are back there a long time and she gives you a good session.

MM.[/QUOTE]My only regret really is that I didn't have cash left to tip Jasmine. She was really going at it and deserved a tip. But maybe I'll remember to compensate next time.

As for the 2 drink minimum with SC, It's a little possible they were doing "surge" shit because of a Christmas rush or something. Or maybe that's just night time there. I forgot to add they wanted 10 bucks for the coat check too. I got the feeling they don't hit you for as much in the daytime. Maybe they do. Either way, I'm still hitting them up when I come back (whenever that is) despite all the fees. Literally the only girls there that didn't float my boat were the 2 skinny white girls they had there.

Stopped in after the disappointing Lions game to see who was working the pole tonight. Saw many familiar faces (Kiwi, Pixi, Bianca, Layla to name a few). Was waiting for about an hour to have Dream freed up. Had the bouncer scoop her from the bar and send her my direction. I love that she actually sits down and has a decent personality to her. Unlike some of the ladies who just come down and say "want to go for dances?" She said it was extremely slow for her tonight and she hadn't paid her tab yet, so BJ only was going to be $240. She said if I came back on Sunday, she promised she would have that paid and she would be more willing to negotiate. Also, knowing what I know now about her, negotiations should go extremely well 😊.

Dream left my table and over came Cybil. Mind you, I was still watching the Green Bay / Chicago game and she was being extremely patient on wanting to go to the back for the game to end for me. I leaned over and asked her about her menu, and point blank she said "I'm only $120 for everything, I'm not expensive. " I said deal, but you have to wait for the game to be done. As soon as Chicago scored to go ahead, we went in back and had a good 20 minute or so session. Opted for BBBJ & BBFS. Sh# started with several warm up songs and then crouched over and gobbled the whole thing for about 1 song. Climbed up in my lap and started slow riding in CG. After about a song I flipped her over and started going to town doggy. After only about 20 or so strokes I had already cum, but I ended up staying at it for what I counted was 3 songs. Pretended to cum at that time to then which she said “oh shit, you weren’t supposed to cum inside me.” I said isnt that the point of bareback? She said “well its gonna be on the next guys chin when he goes down on me.” Told her Im glad Im not that guy. She said “tis the season” to which I then got her digits and will return in a few weeks.

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Came back Sunday fully expecting to kick it with Dream tonight, but in the meantime, fucking Riley came over and got my attention. Promised me that she would actually not stop as I was finishing, and that's all I needed to hear. In the back, we chatted a bit, joked with Cybil who was in the opposite room “hoe yeaaaaa” (IYKYK). Riley did a great job at holding my cum til I stopped. 8/10, only cuz she doesn’t fuck in the club. Didn't want to wait around to recharge my batteries, so in a couple of weeks when I return, hoping to sit down with Dream will be my mission.

WK,

I love reading your stuff on the forum, I think you post great information.

I am just one of many voices, and there is no right or wrong way to do things. I like to be respectful of others opinion, and I enjoy when people disagree with me as that is how we all learn.

It was mostly reading this forum that prompted me to start. I was super scared my first few negotiations. I thought the girls negotiate multiple times a night every night, and I negotiate like once a month. And they would eat me alive, I made many mistakes and I girl will always find a way to hit you a with hustle you have never heard before. Information on this board is one of the few ways guys have to even up the negotiating field with the experienced girls.

Read the forum all you want but there is no substitute for going and having successes and failures. It is a circle, so more guys go, and have a good time, the more money the girls make which increases demand and more girls become dancers to meet the demand. The opposite happens when less guys go because they got cheated, many girls earnings go down and with less demand some dancers leave or others never start.

MM.

[QUOTE=WinterKnight;7479402]Agreed! Before I began following MM's advice, my track record at strip clubs was uneven at best. I even quit the clubs scene for a year or so, because I was tired of being disappointed by the experience; but I returned after reading his posts and following his recommendations for how to improve one's chances for a successful visit. On my initial visit to BT's, I had a great first session with Devin, and that gave me confidence to repeat, and then return and try another dancer. And before long, I was going weekly, on friendly terms with a dozen dancers, and the bouncer shakes my hand when I walk in the door.

Thank you, Marelobo![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HornKnee;7480059]My only regret really is that I didn't have cash left to tip Jasmine. She was really going at it and deserved a tip. But maybe I'll remember to compensate next time.

As for the 2 drink minimum with SC, It's a little possible they were doing "surge" shit because of a Christmas rush or something. Or maybe that's just night time there. I forgot to add they wanted 10 bucks for the coat check too. I got the feeling they don't hit you for as much in the daytime. Maybe they do. Either way, I'm still hitting them up when I come back (whenever that is) despite all the fees. Literally the only girls there that didn't float my boat were the 2 skinny white girls they had there.[/QUOTE]HK,

Jasmine will be thrilled to get your tip anytime you come in.

I usually go during nights because I work during days.

I leave my coat in the car or don't even wear a coat. It takes me less than 30 seconds to park the car and walk into the club.

Don't knock skinny white girls, they are one of my favorite flavors.

MM.

[QUOTE=Arianabp;7479401]Let's say you brought FS from a girl at BO for 200. Do you tip after the service is performed? Is so how much? Also, are the girls expecting it?[/QUOTE]Number 1. I remember you admitting to being a Newbie. Being humble helped you get many replies from others, where you otherwise may have been ignored. Advice, stop with the abbreviations and don't start using any stupid codes like "Dreams, Roses, and $$. 5". It will NOT help you fit in, and will actually cause you to LOSE credibility. Stop with "BO" - it means body odor, NOT Bogarts. Speak like an adult and you'll gain credibility.

Number 2. You ask about tipping. You're going to get several different viewpoints here from "Hell no" to "Always", with their reasons why. You won't find the right-wrong answer that you're looking for.

I asked that tipping question many years ago about escorts. Escorts are not the same as strippers, and the fact that it was many years ago make my comments meaningless, but I am going to share them anyway. For escorts, the overwhelming tipping viewpoint from the guys was "yes for agency girls, no for independent girls". Even the girls at that time would say, "I charge enough. I'd rather that you see me again and again, than get an extra tip now". Again, this was years ago when escorts had more "honor" and business savvy. A stripper with that viewpoint i(rather than looking for a one-time cash grab) is likely to keep me coming back.

I'd argue that strippers are independent, even though the club gets a "cut of her earnings". My thought on tipping strippers is NO, we made an agreement at the table for services and compensation. There is no expectation for a tip like there is for a waitress (where I always tip above 20% Yes, I have given strippers tips if she goes above and beyond (my definition what that line is). There's no doubt in my mind that she earned more than agreed, and I have no guilt in letting her know that. Yes, even without a tip, I'll let her know if I'm impressed and plan to see her again, and I honor my word. No, I don't make an excuse for not tipping. I believe that UNNECESSARILY tipping strippers does NOT make someone look like a "cool high roller", it makes them look like an insecure bumpkin trying to get a girl to like him (and the girl can tell the difference).

So what should you do? If the girl rocks your world and you're tempted to ask her to marry you, tip her instead (humor font).

I see Diamond is back on stage at Flight Club. She was on that "I love my boyfriend" trip for awhile and was working as a waitress. I guess things didn't work out or the money wasn't right. She looks great and got a little thicker than this pic now. I have noticed more thicker girls and BBLs at Flight Club lately.

[QUOTE=DetroitLife;7480483]I see Diamond is back on stage at Flight Club. She was on that "I love my boyfriend" trip for awhile and was working as a waitress. I guess things didn't work out or the money wasn't right. She looks great and got a little thicker than this pic now. I have noticed more thicker girls and BBLs at Flight Club lately.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the photo, Diamond has a fantastic body!

i never took her back though because she does not work the room, she almost never approaches or flirts with anyone, she sits in a booth on her phone , i have never seen her at the upper level. not sure if that is the best strategy but it is her MO and she has been there a long time so it must work for her. does not work for me though as i like it when a stripper comes up to me and tells me sweet little nothings