Massage Parlor Reports

After some research on here and on the "Maps" I decided to check out Green. I read that they had some good Latinas there so I figure I'd take the plunge since I was already in the area. First off this place is located in one of the busiest shopping centers I've ever been in. Granted it isn't very big to begin with but it's pretty busy with the pool hall and a few restaurants. I ended up having to park on a side street and walk up. As I approached there was the PPS there that greeted me and then asks if it was my first time and I just said "yes". I had him. 60 and then he says to me "today Asian very good" so I figured eh. What the hell I'll go Latina another night. There is a small area behind the counter where you put your shoes then you walk in to the locker room area. This is basically like a traditional Asian spa. Similar to ones in Koreatown, Hong Kong, Macau just on a smaller scale. There are numbered lockers and you take off all your clothes and put them inside. All of this is done while there was an older guy watching Korean soap operas on a TV near the massage chairs and another guy was drying off someone that just came out of the shower room. Takes some getting used to if you aren't familiar with this kind fo setup but it's really not too strange. So I take off my clothes and go into the shower room which has a few seated showers and stand up showers. There are also 2 spas that you can get into after you shower but I didn't partake. I was there to get a massage and pound something but maybe next time I'll try out the spa and massage chairs. Anyhow I finish showering and when I come out I dry myself off real quick because I wasn't really in the mood for some old man to dry me off. I tossed one of their robes on and then the PPS came and led me to a room. I hopped on the table without a towel and a few mins later a petite K girl comes in prob mid 30's but in the dim light she would be able to pass for late 20's. She hopped right on top of me and started with a simple massage. She was just taking turns doing different areas of my back and putting her pressure on that spot so I'd say it was a pretty lame massage but I could tell she didn't have her panties on and she was rubbing herself up and down my back. After some banter back and forth and joking around she had me flip over and she grabbed my junk and gave it a few strokes and said "everything?" And I nodded and she asked how much so I said. 80 but she requested $. I agreed and then she pulls her top down and exposes a pretty great set of Large C's small D's. She starts sucking me good and then after a few mins she hops on and rides for a bit then I had her lie down and I pounded her mish. I love watching a nice set of tits flop around when I'm doing mish. I end up popping and she has me lie down while she wipes me down. She them tells me to get up, helps me with my robe and tells me to go take a shower. I go back into the shower room to clean up and then came back out to change and pay her. I notice that she is pretty short and definitely looks a lot older under normal lighting. I think I overpaid slightly but next time I'll probably indulge in the other services there and take my time with the sauna and spa and maybe even the massage chairs. I hope to get a better massage from the girls there the next visit but all in all it was a good experience. They even give you a choice of a beverage before you leave.

Great review WoodYee!

It's always nice to know the lay-of-the-land before before you go to a new place.

Thanks

Nice report woodyee, I'm going to pm you, this is my favorite spot, I haven't been there in a while, so I'm overdue for a visit.

[QUOTE=WoodYee;1324744]After some research on here and on the "Maps" I decided to check out Green. I read that they had some good Latinas there so I figure I'd take the plunge since I was already in the area. First off this place is located in one of the busiest shopping centers I've ever been in. Granted it isn't very big to begin with but it's pretty busy with the pool hall and a few restaurants. I ended up having to park on a side street and walk up. As I approached there was the PPS there that greeted me and then asks if it was my first time and I just said "yes". I had him. 60 and then he says to me "today Asian very good" so I figured eh. What the hell I'll go Latina another night. There is a small area behind the counter where you put your shoes then you walk in to the locker room area. This is basically like a traditional Asian spa. Similar to ones in Koreatown, Hong Kong, Macau just on a smaller scale. There are numbered lockers and you take off all your clothes and put them inside. All of this is done while there was an older guy watching Korean soap operas on a TV near the massage chairs and another guy was drying off someone that just came out of the shower room. Takes some getting used to if you aren't familiar with this kind fo setup but it's really not too strange. So I take off my clothes and go into the shower room which has a few seated showers and stand up showers. There are also 2 spas that you can get into after you shower but I didn't partake. I was there to get a massage and pound something but maybe next time I'll try out the spa and massage chairs. Anyhow I finish showering and when I come out I dry myself off real quick because I wasn't really in the mood for some old man to dry me off. I tossed one of their robes on and then the PPS came and led me to a room. I hopped on the table without a towel and a few mins later a petite K girl comes in prob mid 30's but in the dim light she would be able to pass for late 20's. She hopped right on top of me and started with a simple massage. She was just taking turns doing different areas of my back and putting her pressure on that spot so I'd say it was a pretty lame massage but I could tell she didn't have her panties on and she was rubbing herself up and down my back. After some banter back and forth and joking around she had me flip over and she grabbed my junk and gave it a few strokes and said "everything?" And I nodded and she asked how much so I said. 80 but she requested $. I agreed and then she pulls her top down and exposes a pretty great set of Large C's small D's. She starts sucking me good and then after a few mins she hops on and rides for a bit then I had her lie down and I pounded her mish. I love watching a nice set of tits flop around when I'm doing mish. I end up popping and she has me lie down while she wipes me down. She them tells me to get up, helps me with my robe and tells me to go take a shower. I go back into the shower room to clean up and then came back out to change and pay her. I notice that she is pretty short and definitely looks a lot older under normal lighting. I think I overpaid slightly but next time I'll probably indulge in the other services there and take my time with the sauna and spa and maybe even the massage chairs. I hope to get a better massage from the girls there the next visit but all in all it was a good experience. They even give you a choice of a beverage before you leave.[/QUOTE]

Cruised by Amy's a few days ago and it's closed. Is this joint officially closed?

Looking for latina with big tits; can I find one at Mega?

Didn't see one on my visit there ar few weeks ago.

Thanks

Can recommend a good latina at this place.

I want to hit it next week posibbly.

Went to Lennox and had a Latina from Nicurga in her early 30s. This place tends to have 3 Latina's working at any given time, with one in a while an Asian girl popping up. The place is clean, with a shower in each room; although, it is in a sketchy area. An important point to make is that everyone, and I mean EVERYONE in the area knows what goes on here, so make sure you park away from the front. A barber a few stores next to it seems to be observing everyone who comes in and out so make sure you avoid walking infront of his store.

[QUOTE=Timmah Smith;1349174]Went to Lennox and had a Latina from Nicurga in her early 30s. This place tends to have 3 Latina's working at any given time, with one in a while an Asian girl popping up. The place is clean, with a shower in each room; although, it is in a sketchy area. An important point to make is that everyone, and I mean EVERYONE in the area knows what goes on here, so make sure you park away from the front. A barber a few stores next to it seems to be observing everyone who comes in and out so make sure you avoid walking infront of his store.[/QUOTE]Which one, EZ Lennox or Lennox Accu?

I've been to Ez lennox recently and the place is too small.

And the funny thing here for some you of fellas that remember.

The mamasans at Ez lennox are the same ones who where running Le sun spa (next to domino's pizza)

They are very nice ladies.

I like reminiscing with them about the old days, but they talent lately sucks.

[QUOTE=Jsukist1;1320778]So I was cleaning out my computer and came across these. I had forgotten about them but thought I'd share before I deleted them. They're from a couple of years back. Since the place is no longer open I figured what the hell! No, you may not ask where they are from or who she is, if you do, keep it to yourself. I'm not even going to admit it was me. Just sharing, I think they're pretty self explanatory.[/QUOTE]Was that at Mirage?

Well, its been some time since I posted a review. I decided to make a little trip back to good old faithful. Made it to the White house in lomita. Spent some time with Asian Julie or maybe she said Jen. I can't recall exactly what she was going by for sure. But she is only there on Tues, and she was not Yumi. She is late 30s, small Ds, and very friendly. Smoker, but aren't they all there? She tries to cover it up, but you can still tell if you have a sensitive nose. Trimmed, but smelled beautifully. Massage was just ok, but lots of fun at the deed. I really loved her tight control down there. Really made me believe it. Next, went on a Friday, and this time spent time with Asian Jane. Damn! She is really cute and ridiculously friendly. Also mid / late 30s. She has Cs, but a very nice ass that demands constant rubbing. Completely shaved. Also a smoker, but trying to quit. Aren't they always trying to quit? Ahahhaah. She gives a better massage, but the deed was a bit more routine / mechanical compared to julie / jen. Still a lot fun because I was really digging her looks, her attitude, Korean accent, and loved watching the little guy do all the bad things to her. Both times, standard. 5 door and $ tip. Now, I am torn to which to go back to since I am addicted again! I took a break, but with these 2- I anticipate I will have no choice but to taste a couple more times.

[QUOTE=The Tall Man; 1317177]Stopped in for 30 minutes $50. Last night (Friday Nov. 12) at about 7 PM, was guided to a room and got comfy. In comes a Colombian from Cartg. Who spoke good enough English. I think her name is Erica. 5' tall. 130 lbs with most of it on her tits and beautiful puffy pussy, blondish dyed hair, very very nice and friendly.

She took good care of me, multiple positions, playful, I ate her puffy pussy for 5 minutes, clean, fresh, fun, good time. Damage was $50. + $100.

I will return when driving through the area.

The Tall Man[/QUOTE]I had a great time here in November or so, but went by there a coouple weeks ago and is now closed. Any one have the 411?

[QUOTE=Ca Roadie;1355084]I had a great time here in November or so, but went by there a coouple weeks ago and is now closed. Any one have the 411?[/QUOTE]Say it ain't so! I have not been back as I have been busy down in South America.

Are you sure this MP is closed?

The Tall Man

[QUOTE=The Tall Man; 1355186]Say it ain't so! I have not been back as I have been busy down in South America.

Are you sure this MP is closed?

The Tall Man[/QUOTE]It looked pretty damn closed the two times I went by there. It looked like they were doing the cleanup on aisle sex after a closure. As in rolled up carpet outside and everything.

But. I may have some good news. It might just have been remodeling! I just found an ad on BP with the same address listed. They posted pretty regularly on BP (about 2x / week) but no posts between Dec 13 and Jan 7. So maybe reopened just last weekend!

[url]http://losangeles.backpage.com/BodyRubs/oo-grand-opening-mega-dream-massage-hot-latinas-oo-gardena-22/16812808[/url]

[QUOTE=Ca Roadie; 1357010]It looked pretty damn closed the two times I went by there. It looked like they were doing the cleanup on aisle sex l after a closure. As in rolled up carpet outside and everything.

But. I may have some good news. It might just have been remodeling! I just found an ad on BP with the same address listed. They posted pretty regularly on BP (about 2x / week) but no posts between Dec 13 and Jan 7. So maybe reopened just last weekend!

[url]http://losangeles.backpage.com/BodyRubs/oo-grand-opening-mega-dream-massage-hot-latinas-oo-gardena-22/16812808[/url][/QUOTE]I went by there tonight after hours, it looks like they may have reopened. I'll try to make it back a little earlier in the next few days. There is still a big carpet roll sized bag of trash in front, but it may just be the area.

Made it by there tonight, definitely open again. I drove by and it was lit up with an 'Open' sign, went around the block, was about to pull in and. It went all dark. I guess they had just closed.

Hello, fellas! Just wondering if anyone has seen or knows where Jeanie (Genie?) is working now. She had lots of write-ups on this thread a while back. She worked at the now defunct ACE on Artesia / Inglewood in Redondo Bch, then moved to the place in Lomita on PCH / Pennsylvania (White House location). She went by Sarah at the later location but has been gone for close to 2 years now. She's a 30ish Korean and one of my ATF's. Wouldn't mind seeing her again. Please PM if you might know where she is plying her trade nowadays.

Thanks,

Clutch

[QUOTE=RedondoScotty; 1295248]Panda recently started advertising on CL. I went on Friday night about 8:00. The price is hard to beat. $45 for an hour massage. I got a girl named Nancy. Not a knockout but kind of cute. Petite, probably about 5'.100.

No extras to be had here but at least the massage was good. She kept my privates covered at all times. The massage was followed by a TS, and yes, she kept my privates covered even during the TS. A first for me.

As I was getting dressed I noticed that the doors did not have doorknobs. I wish I'd seen this when I first went in.

Scotty[/QUOTE]Hi guys! Recently found this site.

I went to this place back in December. I should have known but I didn't. I was driving by around 10:30 pm and saw the sign open. I walked in, some Chinese man in a gray suit (dressed like some dude in a mafia movie) at the front. It was almost closing time and I paid for half hour. A petit Chinese woman in mid 30's geve me very strong massage. (She had strong hands) She slid her hand into my ass crack several times during the session and I expected HE but no go not to mention I had blue balls. I tipped her. 20 and left. They all wear green polo shirts as their uniforms or something. On the wall, there was a sign saying please cover yourself at all times. I should have known.

[QUOTE=Slideryyz; 1370678]Hi guys! Recently found this site.

I went to this place back in December. I should have known but I didn't. I was driving by around 10:30 pm and saw the sign open. I walked in, some Chinese man in a gray suit (dressed like some dude in a mafia movie) at the front. It was almost closing time and I paid for half hour. A petit Chinese woman in mid 30's geve me very strong massage. (She had strong hands) She slid her hand into my ass crack several times during the session and I expected HE but no go not to mention I had blue balls. I tipped her. 20 and left. They all wear green polo shirts as their uniforms or something. On the wall, there was a sign saying please cover yourself at all times. I should have known.[/QUOTE]Sorry it didn't have a HE. I typically rely on the advise from members and I am glad to say I have not left with blue balls. If you find a place you want to visit, put it up here for members, they may have an idea about the place.

Keep safe guys.

[QUOTE=Ocampo2; 1371441]Sorry it didn't have a HE. I typically rely on the advise from members and I am glad to say I have not left with blue balls. If you find a place you want to visit, put it up here for members, they may have an idea about the place.

Keep safe guys.[/QUOTE]Thanks for 411. I learned my lessons the hard way. I really wish that I found this site sooner.

Read some reviews here and I thought I'd try out the oval office. Had a little hard time finding the place since I'm still kinda new to the area. This was only my 2nd time to monger in SoCal and the last time was 3-4 years ago, which was a bad experience. The mamasan asked a lot of questions before opening the door but wasn't too bad maybe since I don't really fit the cop look. She sent in Anna or Jenna. She pronounced it like "and-na". She looks to be mid to late 30s with fake Cs. Definitely not a spinner but not overly fat either. Face was decent for her age.

Started off with a message that was terrible but that's not a concern for me. Ended up getting a HE and tipped her $50. Told me to bring $60 next time but to be honest I probably won't repeat with her for the fact she's a little too old, but not bad at what she does.

I'm originally from Hawaii and I've mongered there a lot more then here. A few observations I notice is that the girls in Hawaii are usually younger. Mostly in there 20s-30s while in my 2 experiences here it seems they were late 30s and 40s. Another thing is the reports on here are way different and I guess that's because of LE. The Hawaii threads are extremely active and details are easy to come by. Lastly, the pricing is cheaper here in Cali. I guess in the end it all balances out with the pricing.

Ugggh where have all the LMP's gone in the LA area? Seems the few that religioulsy advertise on OC back page are average at best. Despite their "100% real recent photos." LOL

[QUOTE=Gavon;1409740]Ugggh where have all the LMP's gone in the LA area? Seems the few that religioulsy advertise on OC back page are average at best. Despite their "100% real recent photos." LOL[/QUOTE]Gavon, I got to agree with you. That why I am seriously considering heading down this weekend to Tijuana for my fill of sweet latin love!

The Tall Man

Before leaving the LA basin, I went to this AMP. MMS said 2 girls were there 26yo and 29yo. I got Yumi, I think she said, who was 35ish but of course firm, youthful, talented, and a great SP. Paid. 5 plus 1. 0 and got what I came for. Some kissing, lots of CBJ, butt play, a little riming. 69, the works. She eventually hopped on for CG, but then I had trouble holding the boner. So, Yumi, got off me, and asked to finish with a HJ.

That too was becoming difficult but she kept with it trying different ways and finally coaxed a terrific nut. The ones that cum hard, seem to be the best, don't you agree? Thanks to the fellas that offered suggestions on an MP, but I went where I stopped last Calif. Visit. I walked in at 11:00am and left at 11:55am. MW

[QUOTE=The Tall Man; 1410030]Gavon, I got to agree with you. That why I am seriously considering heading down this weekend to Tijuana for my fill of sweet latin love!

The Tall Man[/QUOTE]Thanks Tall Man. Even though gas prices are crazy high, Tijuana is worth the drive. Actually I went last night and had a blast! It's no wonder why mongers on ISG rave about Tijuana having some of the most affordable, high quality, fresh talent in the world.

Anybody know of any MP's that has white girls? Of the dozens that I've been to, I haven't found 1! Please help me out if you can, willing to trade contacts

At least from what I have heard from fellow hobbyists.

The late 70's and 80's had a plethora of them. That's all it was at the time.

We've discussed this topic before on the forum.

I certainly remember a joint years ago called best massage near culver city / beverly hills area.

They would advertise in the l. A. Weekly but were shutdown pretty kick.

This place had mostly white techs.

Am sure they are out there catering perhaps to the wealthy or those in a higher tax bracket.

I've heard about a few white techs at local AMP's as well.

But they are out there; your probably not looking hard enough.

They definitely exist. I have no doubt about that.

You gots to do research.

[QUOTE=Mazda05; 1425739]At least from what I have heard from fellow hobbyists.

The late 70's and 80's had a plethora of them. That's all it was at the time.

We've discussed this topic before on the forum.

I certainly remember a joint years ago called best massage near culver city / beverly hills area.

They would advertise in the l. A. Weekly but were shutdown pretty kick.

This place had mostly white techs.

Am sure they are out there catering perhaps to the wealthy or those in a higher tax bracket.

I've heard about a few white techs at local AMP's as well.

But they are out there; your probably not looking hard enough.

They definitely exist. I have no doubt about that.

You gots to do research.[/QUOTE]Yup. I'm sure that there are some out there but you're probably right, they are likely to be very expensive. About 10 to 15 years ago there was an AMAZING place that advertised in the LA Weekly- the ad was listed as Sofie. It was located in a condo on Figueroa Terrace above CHINATOWN. The price at the door was 120 for the hour and that got you a nude massage with HJ- there were extras to be had but that depended on the provider and required a tip of course. The best part, though, was the quality of providers! There were whites, Asians and Latinas- all under 30. Most were 18 to 21. I came to think that a couple were USC students but most were just pretty, young girls. It was pricey but I had FS with a couple of real beauties there. My fave was Raquel. 5' 8" very slender but with nice firm D's and thick bubble butt. You had to bring your own cover to this place- I tipped 100 for the FS- like I said pricey when you factor in the cost at the door. Of course this place is long gone and I really didn't appreciate what a find it was. I've heard of a place like this up near topanga but haven't looked into it because funds are way too tight.

I'm sure someone else on the board remembers this place. LOL

[QUOTE=Robertmm; 1426731]Yup. I'm sure that there are some out there but you're probably right, they are likely to be very expensive. About 10 to 15 years ago there was an AMAZING place that advertised in the LA Weekly- the ad was listed as Sofie. It was located in a condo on Figueroa Terrace above CHINATOWN. The price at the door was 120 for the hour and that got you a nude massage with HJ- there were extras to be had but that depended on the provider and required a tip of course. The best part, though, was the quality of providers! There were whites, Asians and Latinas- all under 30. Most were 18 to 21. I came to think that a couple were USC students but most were just pretty, young girls. It was pricey but I had FS with a couple of real beauties there. My fave was Raquel. 5' 8" very slender but with nice firm D's and thick bubble butt. You had to bring your own cover to this place- I tipped 100 for the FS- like I said pricey when you factor in the cost at the door. Of course this place is long gone and I really didn't appreciate what a find it was. I've heard of a place like this up near topanga but haven't looked into it because funds are way too tight.

I'm sure someone else on the board remembers this place. LOL[/QUOTE]White brothels are generally high priced in fancy neighborhoods these days. Just watch the news. Governors. Senators, and Congressman are the only others besides the rich that white brothels are reserved for.

-Shark-

Damn!

Nice to see SharkinOC on the boards again.

Welcome back sir!

Slideryyz,

Learning the "in's and out's" of this hobby can be a little confusing at times (not to mention expensive). Here are some helpful hints for you and all the other newbies out there. Welcome to the hobby.

1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.

2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.

3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times,"have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.

3a) Get / Present a Business Card. Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.

3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!

3c) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.

3d) Prove you are not LE. If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.

4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.

5) Use Provided "Purse". Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.

6) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.

7) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.

8) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.

9) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.

10) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing.

13) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.

14) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.

15) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.

16) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.

17) Learn the Language. If you can learn Korean / Chinese / etc, you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.

18) Post Your Experience. We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP / Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team.

This is just based on my experience in AMPs over the last 25+ years, as well as some tips I've picked up from various "Massage" Forums. I don't claim to be an expert. Feel free to add on your own tips and direct others from other forums you post in to this section. Next time someone asks "any advice for visiting an AMP for the first time", you can point them here for help, and hopefully others will share their tips and advice.

[QUOTE=Slideryyz;1372609]Thanks for 411. I learned my lessons the hard way. I really wish that I found this site sooner.[/QUOTE]

I know that some of you guys have or had the infamous Tammy at her private incall just like me. Of course it's been awhile since I've had the chance to meet up with her and was wondering if any one has had the pleasure of hooking up with her? I've called many a time but always straight to voicemail and text are rarely returned from her. Sometimes it's a hi and how you been text back and forth but can not schedule something that works for either of us. Has she retired? Did she find a man? Let a brother know please! Thanks!

Great run down! I could not have written a better list myself!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy; 1438711]Slideryyz,

Learning the "in's and out's" of this hobby can be a little confusing at times (not to mention expensive). Here are some helpful hints for you and all the other newbies out there. Welcome to the hobby.

1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.

2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.

3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times,"have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.

3a) Get / Present a Business Card. Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.

3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!

3c) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.

3d) Prove you are not LE. If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.

4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.

5) Use Provided "Purse". Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.

6) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.

7) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.

8) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.

9) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.

10) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing.

13) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.

14) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.

15) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.

16) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.

17) Learn the Language. If you can learn Korean / Chinese / etc, you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.

18) Post Your Experience. We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP / Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team.

This is just based on my experience in AMPs over the last 25+ years, as well as some tips I've picked up from various "Massage" Forums. I don't claim to be an expert. Feel free to add on your own tips and direct others from other forums you post in to this section. Next time someone asks "any advice for visiting an AMP for the first time", you can point them here for help, and hopefully others will share their tips and advice.[/QUOTE]

Yo DOG,

Love your writeup with a couple of revisions:

[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy;1438711]7) Shower Etiquette.[/QUOTE]Revision 1: A mamsan once told me: Cops won't shower. The level of vulnerability is way too high. No badge. No gun. No wire. It's just too risky. I am sure there have been exceptions, but by taking a shower, you really help put them all at ease, not to mention your provider, who will just be happy you are clean.

[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy;1438711]12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS.[/QUOTE]I think the low end prices you quote are a bit high.

HJ: Yes, $40 is the going rate almost everywhere, but I've read as little as $20 seems to be OK in some locales.

BJ: Most ask for $60. Only in the last year, have I ever encountered two girls that wanted $80. A couple would have been OK with $40, because that's all I left out, and they jumped in without negotiating. (See below. I tipped more afterwards.)

FS: In places outside LA, like Oxnard and San Berdoo, from what I'm reading on these boards, the going rate is $80. In SF, it is $140-160.

Finally, the one thing you didn't recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that.

Most of the time, money is never even discussed until the girl thanks me for it as she picks it up. (Most don't even count it in front of me, if I've been careful to lay it out splayed. Some don't even acknowledge it is there, so I point and say,"That's for you.") Only once or twice in many years, they have asked for more.

Only once did I get a "spa massage" (no HE) and then I simply picked up the "tip" handed her a $20, and said thank you. And she smiled and said,"You're welcome." No harm, no foul. (And then she said,"Next time," and made the hand motion. But there wasn't a next time. But I digress.)

-60-

Mr:

Good revision suggestions. Everyone take note of these.

Ya done good!

Dirty.

[QUOTE=Mr Sixty; 1442818]Yo DOG,

Love your writeup with a couple of revisions:

Revision 1: A mamsan once told me: Cops won't shower. The level of vulnerability is way too high. No badge. No gun. No wire. It's just too risky. I am sure there have been exceptions, but by taking a shower, you really help put them all at ease, not to mention your provider, who will just be happy you are clean.

I think the low end prices you quote are a bit high.

HJ: Yes, $40 is the going rate almost everywhere, but I've read as little as $20 seems to be OK in some locales.

BJ: Most ask for $60. Only in the last year, have I ever encountered two girls that wanted $80. A couple would have been OK with $40, because that's all I left out, and they jumped in without negotiating. (See below. I tipped more afterwards.)

FS: In places outside LA, like Oxnard and San Berdoo, from what I'm reading on these boards, the going rate is $80. In SF, it is $140-160.

Finally, the one thing you didn't recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that.

Most of the time, money is never even discussed until the girl thanks me for it as she picks it up. (Most don't even count it in front of me, if I've been careful to lay it out splayed. Some don't even acknowledge it is there, so I point and say,"That's for you.") Only once or twice in many years, they have asked for more.

Only once did I get a "spa massage" (no HE) and then I simply picked up the "tip" handed her a $20, and said thank you. And she smiled and said,"You're welcome." No harm, no foul. (And then she said,"Next time," and made the hand motion. But there wasn't a next time. But I digress.)

-60-[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy; 1438711]Slideryyz,

Learning the "in's and out's" of this hobby can be a little confusing at times (not to mention expensive). Here are some helpful hints for you and all the other newbies out there. Welcome to the hobby.

1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.

2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.

3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times,"have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.

3a) Get / Present a Business Card. Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.

3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!

3c) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.

3d) Prove you are not LE. If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.

4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.

5) Use Provided "Purse". Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.

6) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.

7) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.

8) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.

9) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.

10) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing.

13) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.

14) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.

15) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.

16) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.

17) Learn the Language. If you can learn Korean / Chinese / etc, you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.

18) Post Your Experience. We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP / Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team.

This is just based on my experience in AMPs over the last 25+ years, as well as some tips I've picked up from various "Massage" Forums. I don't claim to be an expert. Feel free to add on your own tips and direct others from other forums you post in to this section. Next time someone asks "any advice for visiting an AMP for the first time", you can point them here for help, and hopefully others will share their tips and advice.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your great input. I copied and paisted it and made a little note of reminder to look at it every now and then. For some reason, I have been doing what tip #1 says since the beginning. I don't feel comfortable carrying wallet with I'd's, credit cards in it visiting mps, or other establishments. As for Tip #17, I was thinking to pick up a couple of Chinese or Korean words, not necessarily the dirty words but some terms to compliment the providers (their appearance, body, etc). It'll help, right?

Your desire to learn a few words of the providers language is a very good idea. Here's a very good translator website that can help. [url]http://www.freetranslation.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Slideryyz;1443782]Thanks for your great input. I copied and paisted it and made a little note of reminder to look at it every now and then. For some reason, I have been doing what tip #1 says since the beginning. I don't feel comfortable carrying wallet with I'd's, credit cards in it visiting mps, or other establishments. As for Tip #17, I was thinking to pick up a couple of Chinese or Korean words, not necessarily the dirty words but some terms to compliment the providers (their appearance, body, etc). It'll help, right?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mazda05; 1436943]Damn!

Nice to see SharkinOC on the boards again.

Welcome back sir![/QUOTE]Best regards to all my peeps!

-Shark-

[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy; 1438711]Slideryyz,

Learning the "in's and out's" of this hobby can be a little confusing at times (not to mention expensive). Here are some helpful hints for you and all the other newbies out there. Welcome to the hobby.

1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.

2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.

3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times,"have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.

3a) Get / Present a Business Card. Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.

3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!

3c) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.

3d) Prove you are not LE. If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.

4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.

5) Use Provided "Purse". Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.

6) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.

7) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.

8) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.

9) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.

10) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing.

13) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.

14) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.

15) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.

16) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.

17) Learn the Language. If you can learn Korean / Chinese / etc, you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.

18) Post Your Experience. We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP / Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team.

This is just based on my experience in AMPs over the last 25+ years, as well as some tips I've picked up from various "Massage" Forums. I don't claim to be an expert. Feel free to add on your own tips and direct others from other forums you post in to this section. Next time someone asks "any advice for visiting an AMP for the first time", you can point them here for help, and hopefully others will share their tips and advice.[/QUOTE]Should write a book,"Mongering for dummies". Excellent run down!

-Shark-

[QUOTE=Shark in OC; 1444484]Best regards to all my peeps!

-Shark-[/QUOTE]Dude how's it hanging? How is the "old" ball and chain been treating you?

Good to see you resurface from under the water once in a while.

Misfit

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Location: On Crenshaw, Southeast side, south of Rosecrans a couple blocks. I had just left King Henry VIII's which is just 3 minutes up the street. I had a buzz & blue balls. I walked in & told Spanish mamason that I wanted to see the girls. She said ok. She took me to the room had me sit in a chair inside the door, & she brought in the girls. 3 girls working, one was busy with a customer. She showed me a slim young latina that was wearing lingerie with her little titties almost poking out. I wanted her, but the next girl named "Cutie" had big real titties on a bangin body. I chose Cutie. Cutie had a Victoria Secret bra red & black with frills & a short skirt with thong. Then the mamason asked me how I heard about their place. I said: Oh the Back Page Ad. She smiled & said ok.

She left. I got naked & layed face down on table. I wasn't there for a massage. I was there to fuck a Hot Young Latina. Why drive 3 hours to Tijuana when you have this right here in our backyard. Cutie came in & I sat up on the table. She said hello. I said Hola Baby! Muy bonita. She walked toward me & I hugged her & kissed her. She knew what I wanted. I pulled her bra up & started sucking on her incredible breasts. I believe she said she is 23 or 26, but she looks 21. She took off her skirt & I helped her out of her G-string. My hands were all over her & she was stroking my cock. She said you want: and she made a motion with her arms & hips like she was fucking! I said yes senorita, SI! That is what I came for baby!

Her pussy was wet & I started some DATY. There is a new latina chick at KH8 that got me worked up. But this Cutie had a way better & younger body. I was glad I came here, even though it was going to cost me $150. But you know what, it is worth it. Cutie put on the cover & went to town slurping my tool. I had her sit in the chair & I drilled her in mish pushing her ankles up by her ears, making her look like Bugs Bunny. I pounded into her hard. Then she stood up & bent over & I slid in for some doggie. She still had her high heels on & man did she look good. I gripped her hips & slammed into her Until I busted a big nut!

She left and returned with a warm towel to clean me up & had a bottle of cold water for me. Man, that was fun.

I'm going to get the other petite one next time.

BALDY (LuvHotYoungLatinas) CRUISER :)