Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=Neurosynth]This is really over the top. What Bob F. does about this is between him and his conscious. For all you know he has already done something about it but doesn't want to publicly say so. Perhaps various sex workers know him by his name here. It could be any number of things.

Or maybe he isn't going to do a damn thing about it at all. But what gives you the right to demand he answer to you?

Nobody who participates in this so called "hobby" has clean hands. 95% percent of these women are in this business because of some awful thing in their lives. Childhood abuse, drug addiction, mental illness, economic desperation...the list is long. Even most of the would-be upscale apparently "happy hookers" have a painful past or present...they just hide it better. And the men who pay for their services are exploiting this.

Granted, some cases of exploitation are worse than others. It doesn't get much worse than child abuse. But before calling out other guys I'd suggest folks here set aside the various rationalizations they tell themselves, and take a long look in the mirror.[/QUOTE]

Sorry man. But this post makes no sense. Certainly we all are not "saints" or doing something that is admiral. There are probably most women who are doing this to support a drug habit or something. But that in no way can be put on the same page with a young child being forced to have sex with grown men. There is a reason that people get much more outraged when there is the abuse of a child in any way. They lack the capacity to make decisions for themselves and put fully in the trust and faith of adults. For an adult caregiver/parent to exploit that is about the sickest thing I've ever heard.

If this person was worried about sex workers knowing his identity I don't think he would have brought up the child thing in the first place. Heck why would he post anything about it on any public forum?

What is obvious is that you don't have any children or you would definitely not feel the way you do.

If Bob simply fills in these blanks, it's no skin off his back. Leo will read it and it's over and done with. If he fills in these blanks it's no different than a detailed mongering report.

Where did you pick her up?

Approximately what time of day did you pick her up?

Please describe the lady.

Where have you seen this lady hang out on Ponce?

Please describe the people you have seen her hang out with.

First, Neuro thanks again. This is the second time you have defended me on this board.

Aaglen, Yes you did PM me and promise me a "safe way", but your word means shit to me. I don't have any idea you in the world you are. As i said before, I'm not getting involved in this. I don't know what in the hell you guys do, but in my field, I don't want there to be any possible way for my name to be associated with child prostitution. I simply told this board what my experience was (that IS the purpose of this board) and asked if anyone else has ever experienced anything similar.Period. Whoever... can take that info. and do with it as they please.
I have told you ENOUGH that if you are really on a crusade you can find the "skinny wsw" on Ponce. But for all I know, based on your "obsession" and wanting to know specifics, YOU may want to FUCK the little girl, but don't want to risk asking around. You want me to tell you exactly who it was, so you can have a little more security in tracking down a little preteen pussy. No one else here has reacted with the enthusiasm you have. Others such as myself are aghast that a mother could do such a thing, but no one has responded like you have.
The stroll on Ponce isn't THAT long; a couple of blocks. I told you it was a WSW, and one that I've never seen there before. That is all I'm saying.
I'm not in law enforcement, so I have no professional obligation to get involved. And I have no MORAL obligation to get involved either, (Just as I'm not going after the Medellin drug cartel).
And if you don't think I have any balls, Why don't you SUCK MY DICK, and see them.

AND THANKS, I DO SLEEP WELL!!! FUCK WAD

It is disturbing that a young girl is being offered for prostitution. In no is that something I wish to condone or encourage. One thing that has not been mentioned... by providing more information, an individual could have enough information to follow through with the deal. I think Bob is right in not providing more information. That could potentially keep someone from reading this board and following up with an unethical act.

[QUOTE=Bob Forchix]First, Neuro thanks again. This is the second time you have defended me on this board.

Aaglen, Yes you did PM me and promise me a "safe way", but your word means shit to me. I don't have any idea you in the world you are. As i said before, I'm not getting involved in this. I don't know what in the hell you guys do, but in my field, I don't want there to be any possible way for my name to be associated with child prostitution. [/QUOTE]

I'm sure if you thought it was important, you could take a few minutes to go to a library somewhere and send an anonymous e-mail to child protective services or someone else. Unless you are a total internet-retard, you could figure this out. I don't have a big problem with you not caring enough to do this, but saying you are being quiet to protect yourself is just being dishonest.

How do we do YOU didn't fuck the little girl yourself, asshole? Maybe that's why you don't want to share the info.

I'm not going to go picking up every SW I meet on Ponce seeing who offers me their kid. That's stupid. And I'm sorry you think I'm on some sort of obsessive crusade. I just can't sit by when there is at least SOMETHING I can do. That's how I am.

YOU were offered a perfectly safe way to help nail this psycho-*****. Enough people on this board know me to know that I'm not going to bust your ass, nor go after her myself. I can't think of anything more repugnant.

The minute she told you about her little girl, you had a MORAL OBLIGATION to do something. Regardless of what you seem to think. I offered you a safe way and you chose to be a coward. Hell, you could have stopped at a pay phone and called LE & DFACS yourself - and you still could. But apparently you'd rather not get involved. You are just as bad as she is.

I will take back everything I said if you make that phone call yourself. I'll even send you the numbers by PM if you want. Or write an anonymous letter, or SOMETHING.

Shit man, I'm trying to help here.

And BTW, a number of guys have PM'd me that they support me in this. You and Neuro are the only ones who seem to have a problem.

The idea that someone would have sex with a 7 year old is sick and disgusting to say the very least. If anyone sees that mom they should make a anonymous call to the cops. People like this cause unneeded problems for our hobby.

Neurosynth

A SW who is of legal is a different situation. These girls made a choice to work as a SW. We are not responsible for their career choices. What the girls do after drop them off is their own affair.

Yes if you just pointed LE in the right direction, they could probably pose as a hobbyist and if they got the same offer, a little girl could be saved from what is clearly terrible abuse. There's no excuse except laziness and total lack of compassion for you not to at least send an anonymous e-mail to LE.

Then there is no way that they will have a record of your voice or handwriting or anything else and you will have done all that you could do with no risk to yourself.

One more thing - under the law, anyone who knows of, or suspects child abuse and DOESN'T report it is considered an accessory - so dude, you've already implicated yourself.

Your handle here is already tied to child prostitution, so you really should do the right thing. And don't think for a moment LE doesn't read this forum.

Alright it is obvious you guys want the information on this lady with the girl for you own pleasure, you guys reek of desperation.The pathetic excuse that you want to help the girl is a load of crap.Lets move on to more important things like mongering,half the girls on the street had a fucked up childhood anyway and yall mess with them.

[QUOTE=Aaglen]One more thing - under the law, anyone who knows of, or suspects child abuse and DOESN'T report it is considered an accessory - so dude, you've already implicated yourself.

Your handle here is already tied to child prostitution, so you really should do the right thing. And don't think for a moment LE doesn't read this forum.[/QUOTE]

If this is true, then isn't Bob Forchix's posting about this experience a passive way of doing something about it? Either way, this situation is definitely fucked up.

[QUOTE=Falcone]If this is true, then isn't Bob Forchix's posting about this experience a passive way of doing something about it? Either way, this situation is definitely fucked up.[/QUOTE]

That is my point. We know LE is here. And as I said to Aaglen the same goes for LE. they can investigate based on what has already been said. I've pointed to a 3 block area and given a general description of the mother. LE has the resources to act on that info if they so choose.

It always amazes me how people in a morally ambiguous situation will draw dark lines where none exist, and lo and behold they are on the right side of the line and others are on the wrong side. Funny how that works out.

Clearly pimping out a seven year old is on the wrong side of *any* line. Way wrong. Wrong as can be. No doubt about it.

But this idea that hookers make a choice and their customers have no moral responsibility when they participate is just delusional. Those who exploit the weaknesses of these women contribute to the perpetuation of their situation. It's as simple as that.

But since we all agree that pimping out a seven year old is despicable I'll put it another way in its starkest form.

Imagine two worlds. In one world adult women are prostitutes, and men their customers, in the same numbers as in our world. In another world, for whatever reason, adult men and women do not participate in prostitution.

I would submit that child prostitution is much more likely to occur in the world with adult prostitution than the one without adult prostitution. And if that is the case, those who participate in adult prostitution in *our* world help to make it one where child prostitution is much more likely to occur.

Yes, they could investigate based on the scant info you gave, and likely come up empty. More specific info would increase the odds of them busting her, and you HAVE more specific info that you're not willing to share.

You're not weaseling out of this and covering your ass with that sort of lame rationalization. Come on dude, do the right thing.

Every time I look at MY 7-year old daughter, and think about what you're not willing to do, I feel ill.

Sidenote to Neuro - this particular situation is NOT morally ambiguous. BF has info that could help protect that litte girl and he's too chickenshit to do anything with it.

[QUOTE=Aaglen]Sidenote to Neuro - this particular situation is NOT morally ambiguous. BF has info that could help protect that litte girl and he's too chickenshit to do anything with it.[/QUOTE]

I've already said pimping out a 7 year old is unambiguously wrong.

I'm making a different point and you're either not getting it or actively avoiding it.

(Some might wonder what I'm doing here if I'm serious about what I am posting about. Over time I've cut away commercial sex options I allow myself as they are revealed to be exploitive. At this point I pretty much don't do anything stateside at all. But I do seek out the rare non-exploitive opportunity. Such opportunities are easier to find in Europe...not that it's utopia over there either. I'm not looking down on anyone. I claim no moral superiority. But I do claim to think a bit more clearly about these issues than most.)