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[QUOTE=NCTransplant;2029488]I wasn't trying to drive a bargain. I didn't threaten anything. She was wanting more than I had to pay and SHE asked what I could afford. I don't agree with you. I think the service wouldn't have been any different. But if you think I am wrong go and try her yourself and pay $$ and see what you get?
You don't always get more by paying more. Some girls I have no doubt are worth more that charge more but many are just in it for the buck. It goes back to the individual. I don't think it would have made one damn difference if I had paid her 40 more.
THERE IS NO LESSON here. Why invest a lot of $$ on an unknown? In Gas Town at that? I have been in this game a LONG LONG time.
Call her up and offer her extra. Pay her $ or $ With your logic maybe she will suck the chrome off your tailpipe? Her personality was ok. I didn't have a problem with her attitude.[/QUOTE]If your approach works for you then you should continue it until it doesn't. In my experience, seeing an escort I didn't know at a substantially reduced rate gives her the wrong initial impression and hasn't worked which is a lesson I learned. If I knew them and we really hit it off then a reduction has been appropriate and unusually forthcoming. Those providers who reduce their fee for a stranger are letting you know their real price which is related to how their service has been received by others.
And, yes there are some who inflate their fees to just make a quick buck. I have been taken in by that before. Not easy to weed out.
As to Cris, I don't travel to Gastonia when there are plenty of good options here in Charlotte.
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[QUOTE=NCTransplant;2028958]I have seen her ads for a while but couldn't find any intel so I TOFTT. I called and she wanted $.4 for 30 minutes and $$ for an hour. I told I didn't want to spend that much and she asked what I was willing to spend and I told her $. She said ok. Pics are accurate. Not bad for a middle aged woman. She does have some tats. It was totally rushed. A couple of strokes of BBBJ and on went the cover before I was even ready. So I did a little LKF and felt her butt with one hand while working on myself with the other until I was ready. Then once I was inside she made it plain that she was looking to get it over as soon as possible, telling me to cum on her tits. Asking is the condom was holding me back. Well I got the job down.
I am glad I didn't pay what she was originally wanting. I would have been totally pissed. I bet I was in and out in 15 minutes. Not an experience I would recommend to anybody. I haven't had the best of luck with the gas town gals. Chalk one up for experience. I don't recommend this one guys.
On another note. I got this burner app for my phone since the text plus was acting flaky on making calls. Can someone tell me how you answer an incoming call on this thing?
[URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/wow-irresistable-real-38/6202998[/URL]
"Beautiful, upscale, seductive!! Hi Guys, I'm Cris a beautiful blue eyed blond, sexexy, soft, sweet, silky smooth, seductive playmate. Uncomplicated, uninhibited and very understanding, want to play. Availabley for Serious gentlemen.
!! . Call Cris 704-212-8975.
Poster's age: 38.
• Location: Charlotte, gastonia".[/QUOTE]I saw her last week for the $.40 as I was in the Gashouse and my reliables were not available. There is no lesson to be learned here. Got same terrible service. Wish I had negotiated a little so it didn't hurt the wallet as bad. She is not looking for regulars and her service shows it. Cris was the one negotiating her price down, not Transplant. He just agreed and service should be consistent no matter what.
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You are totally distorting what happened. I didn't demand anything. It was a cordial exchange. If I call someone and they want more than I can afford I have to tell them. If you want to keep overpaying then go for it. Usually the more expensive tend to be the younger and prettier ones but not always. Sometimes more money means better quality but not always. I have paid a lot of $ to only be disappointed.
You keep wanting to bust my chops and there isn't anything to bust over. Just because you have money running out of your pockets and don't mind tossing a whole day's wages or more away then go for it. I used to have a good job where I could afford more.
You want to justify paying as much money as possible for pussy and guys like you are running up the rates for everybody else. I am just not loaded like you are. If you think I am wrong then give her a call and spend your dough. I am just trying to relay information not to waste your time on her but if you think it is just because I wasn't willing to pay what she was initially asking, then put your money where your mouth is. I don't think more dough would have made one bit of difference. I have been that road before.
Lousy service is lousy service. You can pay more for it than you want, but her real rate wouldn't have made any difference. I can tell by the class of person that she is.
[QUOTE=WetLapper;2029510]If your approach works for you then you should continue it until it doesn't. In my experience, seeing an escort I didn't know at a substantially reduced rate gives her the wrong initial impression and hasn't worked which is a lesson I learned. If I knew them and we really hit it off then a reduction has been appropriate and unusually forthcoming. Those providers who reduce their fee for a stranger are letting you know their real price which is related to how their service has been received by others.
And, yes there are some who inflate their fees to just make a quick buck. I have been taken in by that before. Not easy to weed out.
As to Cris, I don't travel to Gastonia when there are plenty of good options here in Charlotte.[/QUOTE]
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No need to explain yourself NC Transplant. You have been around here for many years and I know what your saying. I am back in the area now after being away for a few years. You have offered me great advice in the past and you know your stuff. We are the ones who need to keep the prices low for us. If these guys want to pay the rates that some of these providers are asking then let them be the ones getting screwed. Most of the BP girls are nothing more then a step above a street walker.
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Web Scam
No chance I would see Cam girl unless someone have a good experience with her. The ladies I mentioned in my original post are more my speed. Hope to get more input from you all and what think of them.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=LoveLatina;2029390]You are joking about giving the web cam girl money before you meet her, right?
She's not going to charge $25 for a web cam meeting and the come to you for F.S. For .65.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=NCTransplant;2029584]You are totally distorting what happened. I didn't demand anything. It was a cordial exchange. If I call someone and they want more than I can afford I have to tell them. If you want to keep overpaying then go for it. Usually the more expensive tend to be the younger and prettier ones but not always. Sometimes more money means better quality but not always. I have paid a lot of $ to only be disappointed.
You keep wanting to bust my chops and there isn't anything to bust over. Just because you have money running out of your pockets and don't mind tossing a whole day's wages or more away then go for it. I used to have a good job where I could afford more.
You want to justify paying as much money as possible for pussy and guys like you are running up the rates for everybody else. I am just not loaded like you are. If you think I am wrong then give her a call and spend your dough. I am just trying to relay information not to waste your time on her but if you think it is just because I wasn't willing to pay what she was initially asking, then put your money where your mouth is. I don't think more dough would have made one bit of difference. I have been that road before.
Lousy service is lousy service. You can pay more for it than you want, but her real rate wouldn't have made any difference. I can tell by the class of person that she is.[/QUOTE]I was going to see a well known and reviewed provider. She claimed she out me to me wife. I don't one. Our times to meet didn't match. I set a date when I knew business is slow. Texted her the day before and got a shake down in a text, the green dot thing. Asked to send the money for missed meeting. She cancelled. Told me I was going to be put on a list with my name and phone number on it. I have a burner. I have been seeking providers for and on for years. I have seen the service go down not matter how much you pay. It is all a hit and miss. I found out the any disagreement don't see. It was a time when they scheduled around yours. Since when does a business tell the customer when you can spend money.
Price isn't a factor with me, but service is. I see if a provider have and way to flee you, most will. Please remember you mileage isn't someone mileage. I have seen good reviews on the provider since then, I don't mind. She tried, I guess she was thinking I am a newbie. She told me that, LOL. I was going to pay her price with no problems. NC much respect to you. I learned a lot from you from another site it bites now. We need to learn from each other and teach others. They don't understand the best business is repeat business. Every business runs specials, discount for new customers and repeat business.
I am wiseman.
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Samantha the Scammer
Before you waste any time with this one, be advised that she pulled a cash and dash on me in the Cincinatti area a year or so ago. I reported out on it at the time. She may have gone by a different name, but this is the girl. FYI.
[URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-girl-next-door-experience-ready-and-waiting-21/14772667[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Corvette704;2029704]No need to explain yourself NC Transplant. You have been around here for many years and I know what your saying. I am back in the area now after being away for a few years. You have offered me great advice in the past and you know your stuff. We are the ones who need to keep the prices low for us. If these guys want to pay the rates that some of these providers are asking then let them be the ones getting screwed. Most of the BP girls are nothing more then a step above a street walker.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen a BP escort in close to a year for the reason you mentioned at either full or discounted prices. I'm a quick study and find them a waste of time and money and basically bottom feeders. There are reliable sources for escorts if seeking selective and high quality providers. BP seems a decent source for body rubs only.
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my 2cents on these:
[QUOTE=Gacac;2029325]I will be in Charlotte for a 3 days next week and have invested some time to RTFF and have not been able to decide on a therapists. Probably have a budget for 3-4 visits, I have some names if anyone could help with their own order of preference or best value. I realize they might offer different menus, but do your best.. Thank you.
Marcia.
Jennii.
Holly (American Blonde).
Lilly.
Joyce.
Sasha.
Liah [URL]http://goddessliah.webstarts.com/[/URL].
Zoey [URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/s-e-d-u-c-t-i-v-e-sensual-full-body-massage-session-in-and-out-calls-available/8958854[/URL].
Isabella? Been incontact with her. Wants a .25 webcam first then meets at very reasonable rates. I a little leary of this one but she soooo hot! [URL]http://isabellarosse.yolasite.com/[/URL].
No name on this one. [URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/BodyRubs/an-amazing-bodyrubalways-leave-happy-39/15957257[/URL].
Any other suggestions or provides would be appreciated. I will write in my experiences to help others.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've enjoyed Marcia, decent massage, private incall, great Russian finish, looks like her pics. Some members have had issues with her, but overall OK, would repeat.
Haven't seen Holly, she has mixed reviews on anoThER board, one from a regular member here who said it was a good time. Think this one is a YMMV.
Joyce? Which one? Do you have a link? I've seen one joyce, older white lady with a big rack? Ok massage, limiting roaming, wouldn't repeat. But some members have had a good time with her.
Sasha? The latina lady? She has great reviews, have not met her but would like to. Looks like pics and allows full roaming.
Zoey, have not met, mixed reviews on what she allows, however I hear that the massage is not bad.
[URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/BodyRubs/an-amazing-bodyrubalways-leave-happy-39/15957257[/URL], she was reported on here awhile ago, don't think it was that favorable.
Don't have intel on Jenni, do you have a link?
Also, Torie, [URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/BodyRubs/blondes-have-more-fun-24/13712339[/URL], had been reported on as being fun (but she only see's white guys, sorry), have not met her, I'm not upscale. Also, lots of members give her a positive review, [URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/BodyRubs/y-o-u-r-favorite-b-r-u-n-e-t-t-e-21/12477209[/URL].
Hope this sheds some light for you. Remember, YOU OWE US! LOL, please report back your findings.
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Liah
[QUOTE=Gacac;2029325]I will be in Charlotte for a 3 days next week and have invested some time to RTFF and have not been able to decide on a therapists. Probably have a budget for 3-4 visits, I have some names if anyone could help with their own order of preference or best value. I realize they might offer different menus, but do your best.. Thank you.
Marcia.
Jennii.
Holly (American Blonde).
Lilly.
Joyce.
Sasha.
Liah [URL]http://goddessliah.webstarts.com/[/URL].
Zoey [URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/s-e-d-u-c-t-i-v-e-sensual-full-body-massage-session-in-and-out-calls-available/8958854[/URL].
Isabella? Been incontact with her. Wants a .25 webcam first then meets at very reasonable rates. I a little leary of this one but she soooo hot! [URL]http://isabellarosse.yolasite.com/[/URL].
No name on this one. [URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/BodyRubs/an-amazing-bodyrubalways-leave-happy-39/15957257[/URL].
Any other suggestions or provides would be appreciated. I will write in my experiences to help others.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I can comment on Liah as I had a dream with her. She is a sweet girl. She gives a decent rub. The amount of touching is based on the amount you pay as she indicates on her web site. I went for the mutual touch option. Most options available there but not FS in my dream. Only issue I had was the cost. Very nice girl but much cheaper options available around town and receive the same service with more on the menu.
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Thank you Bouinage for your input. Here are the links to the ladies in question. Yes, I will report in.
Joyce. [URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/therapeutic-massage-start-treating-yourself-right/15941428[/URL].
Liah. [URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/BodyRubs/ultimate-retreat-imitatednever-duplicated-25/7668913[/URL].
Lily. [URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sweetie-chinese-girl-makes-your-dream-come-true-28/11110102[/URL].
Sasha. [URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/BodyRubs/a-good-way-to-start-your-weekend-with-your-brazilian-and-sexy-angel-27/7929246[/URL].
Melissa (Southern Comfort) May be out of my range but curios if anyone has seen her. [URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/southern-comfort-by-melissa-40/14579761[/URL].
Thank you gentlemen.
[QUOTE=Bouinage;2030292]I've enjoyed Marcia, decent massage, private incall, great Russian finish, looks like her pics. Some members have had issues with her, but overall OK, would repeat.
Haven't seen Holly, she has mixed reviews on anoThER board, one from a regular member here who said it was a good time. Think this one is a YMMV.
Joyce? Which one? Do you have a link? I've seen one joyce, older white lady with a big rack? Ok massage, limiting roaming, wouldn't repeat. But some members have had a good time with her.
Sasha? The latina lady? She has great reviews, have not met her but would like to. Looks like pics and allows full roaming.
Zoey, have not met, mixed reviews on what she allows, however I hear that the massage is not bad.
[URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/BodyRubs/an-amazing-bodyrubalways-leave-happy-39/15957257[/URL], she was reported on here awhile ago, don't think it was that favorable.
Don't have intel on Jenni, do you have a link?
Also, Torie, [URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/BodyRubs/blondes-have-more-fun-24/13712339[/URL], had been reported on as being fun (but she only see's white guys, sorry), have not met her, I'm not upscale. Also, lots of members give her a positive review, [URL]http://charlotte.backpage.com/BodyRubs/y-o-u-r-favorite-b-r-u-n-e-t-t-e-21/12477209[/URL].
Hope this sheds some light for you. Remember, YOU OWE US! LOL, please report back your findings.[/QUOTE]
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There are some good providers on BP and plenty of crappy ones. YMMV as always. Jasmine, Nicole, Mia in Kings Mountain are just a few of the good providers that use BP at times. There are high end sites like the doggie and Eros which are very expensive high end girls. Then you have the Tantric girls and you can really drop a lot of money on them and get very little in return. More money SOMETIMES means higher quality but not always. I doubt there are very few of the ultra cheap ones that will offer much in the way of a good time. A good time can be had for .8 . I have had better luck with the more mature gals too.
Lexi Gray used to provide me a great time for $ and she was a GFE too. It was always fun with her. I think she moved back to FL and she may have been older than she advertised. But I am not looking to marry them, just have a little fun.
[QUOTE=WetLapper;2030237]I haven't seen a BP escort in close to a year for the reason you mentioned at either full or discounted prices. I'm a quick study and find them a waste of time and money and basically bottom feeders. There are reliable sources for escorts if seeking selective and high quality providers. BP seems a decent source for body rubs only.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=NCTransplant;2030430]There are some good providers on BP and plenty of crappy ones. YMMV as always. Jasmine, Nicole, Mia in Kings Mountain are just a few of the good providers that use BP at times. There are high end sites like the doggie and Eros which are very expensive high end girls. Then you have the Tantric girls and you can really drop a lot of money on them and get very little in return. More money SOMETIMES means higher quality but not always. I doubt there are very few of the ultra cheap ones that will offer much in the way of a good time. A good time can be had for .8 . I have had better luck with the more mature gals too.
Lexi Gray used to provide me a great time for $ and she was a GFE too. It was always fun with her. I think she moved back to FL and she may have been older than she advertised. But I am not looking to marry them, just have a little fun.[/QUOTE]I agree that there may be a relationship between price and quality but it becomes random when reduced to an individual provider / client experience. I find that girls that don't advertise on BP choose that path because they consider themselves above BP and, for me, that translates into better results so I don't see anyone who advertises here. The price does not necessarily go up when not using BP. Often they state a higher price elsewhere to weed out who they consider undesirable then lower the price to a similar range once a good impression has been made. I hope someone finds my findings of help.
When I cost out the time and transportation to Kings Mountan those become too expensive not to mention inconvenient from Charlotte.
I totally agree on more mature. I do not see anyone below 30. And, tantric is an expensive gimmick. I used to practice tantra and this stuff being advertised bears NO resemblance to he real thing. Never do I see these.
Be cautious about assuming too much about other sites than BP. They APPEAR more expensive but may not be in the end. You may not agree but I find the quality superior do get more per buck and save the money by going less frequently. In addition, most of these, if you make a good first impression and appear like a regular candidate, will be offered or allowed a discount. After all they want a genuine, quality paying customer rather than random strangers. Sometimes things are not what they APPEAR to be.
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Some quality girls DO advertise on BP, they just don't have the need to post something 4 or 5 times a day. I would think Jasmine is a quality provider that uses BP. Jessica of Daytimedistractions is probably another one. If you can afford that $400 or $500 gals on the Eros site more power to you. I doubt you will see an of those on BP. I have even heard some of those gals are bareback and the thinking is lower milage is lower risk? I would even bet Pagely (LIZ now) is another high quality provider on BP. You may be using the dog site and there are NO low end providers there that I can see. Some of those gals use BP. Your best bet if you can find it is to find a hard up non pro and bang her. She won't advertise at all so how to find them? I am sure there are plenty of women out there that are in need and will play for a little pay? There is a lot of trash on BP but it isn't all trash. You may even get lucky on CL. If you aren't picky you may even get lucky on the chat lines? But you will find a lot of dogs there for sure.
Racelina or how ever you spell her name I hear is high quality and she will post on BP when she comes to town.
[QUOTE=WetLapper;2030452]I agree that there may be a relationship between price and quality but it becomes random when reduced to an individual provider / client experience. I find that girls that don't advertise on BP choose that path because they consider themselves above BP and, for me, that translates into better results so I don't see anyone who advertises here. The price does not necessarily go up when not using BP. Often they state a higher price elsewhere to weed out who they consider undesirable then lower the price to a similar range once a good impression has been made. I hope someone finds my findings of help.
When I cost out the time and transportation to Kings Mountan those become too expensive not to mention inconvenient from Charlotte.
I totally agree on more mature. I do not see anyone below 30. And, tantric is an expensive gimmick. I used to practice tantra and this stuff being advertised bears NO resemblance to he real thing. Never do I see these.
Be cautious about assuming too much about other sites than BP. They APPEAR more expensive but may not be in the end. You may not agree but I find the quality superior do get more per buck and save the money by going less frequently. In addition, most of these, if you make a good first impression and appear like a regular candidate, will be offered or allowed a discount. After all they want a genuine, quality paying customer rather than random strangers. Sometimes things are not what they APPEAR to be.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=NCTransplant;2030469]Some quality girls DO advertise on BP, they just don't have the need to post something 4 or 5 times a day. I would think Jasmine is a quality provider that uses BP. Jessica of Daytimedistractions is probably another one. If you can afford that $400 or $500 gals on the Eros site more power to you. I doubt you will see an of those on BP. I have even heard some of those gals are bareback and the thinking is lower milage is lower risk? I would even bet Pagely (LIZ now) is another high quality provider on BP. You may be using the dog site and there are NO low end providers there that I can see. Some of those gals use BP. Your best bet if you can find it is to find a hard up non pro and bang her. She won't advertise at all so how to find them? I am sure there are plenty of women out there that are in need and will play for a little pay? There is a lot of trash on BP but it isn't all trash. You may even get lucky on CL. If you aren't picky you may even get lucky on the chat lines? But you will find a lot of dogs there for sure.
Racelina or how ever you spell her name I hear is high quality and she will post on BP when she comes to town.[/QUOTE]The initial range I am looking at is more in the $200-350 PER HOUR range (not $400-500) which usually drops to $200 - $250 with good chemistry only after the initial contact. These girls tell me they start high to weed out certain hobbyists because it is good for their business which makes some sense. So, it drops close to the BP hourly range, excluding the first time, with the clock typically ignored. Its an alternate approach that can fairly well and if you decide to research it you might come to the same conclusion. That BP is really best for bodyrub not escort services.
Bareback can be offered and a risk anywhere, off or on BP. It is only a guess where bb is more an issue. Meeting hard up girls, those on CL (other than flexible LMT's) and chat room girls haven't been my experience, so no comment.
I have heard good things about Jessica who also shows up on sugar daddy sites. Obviously she is open to reducing the number of guys she sees but sees them regularly for a monthly amount. Until that works for her she will probably settle for some BP business.
Jasmine and Racelina are interesting names especially for BP enthusiasts. Are they both out of town providers who come into town in hotels?